Evidence Of Injustice

[SUBMAN1]

Interesting vid.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4448197n

-S

[Sailor Steve]

Very interesting. Thanks for the link.

[Dowly]

Wow! That sucks.

[FIREWALL]

It's reports like this that shake my faith in the legal system.

What's next ?

[Digital_Trucker]

I think my blood pressure just went up 50 points after listening to that lawyer Thanks for the link

[StdDev]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

I thought that bullet thingamajig was only used in TV shows

Bullet thingamajig is still good prosecution tool.. just cause it sounds so scientific!
Its the "Bullet fragment/Lead analysis" thats out...

Seriously.. the way this has been handled sucks...........

[UnderseaLcpl]

Federally funded science fails again? People's lives are destroyed? The state is hesitant to change its' policies? Untold sums of money wasted by the state?
Justice processes are inefficient and lead to wrongful convictions?

Is this surprising?

But I am also hesitant to believe everything CBS says. While I have no doubt that bullet-lead analysis is junk science, I would also question the objectivity of the media.

After all, maybe people who were convicted using bullet-lead analysis actually were guilty, and now they'll go free because of it. :hmm:

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Federally funded science fails again? People's lives are destroyed? The state is hesitant to change its' policies? Untold sums of money wasted by the state?
Justice processes are inefficient and lead to wrongful convictions?

Is this surprising?

But I am also hesitant to believe everything CBS says. While I have no doubt that bullet-lead analysis is junk science, I would also question the objectivity of the media.

After all, maybe people who were convicted using bullet-lead analysis actually were guilty, and now they'll go free because of it. :hmm:

Ah yes that is the risk of a free society or so they say. Your inocent till proven guilty but what if the process to prove is flawed? Even if the person is truely guilty you can't fabricate science fiction to warp the juries perceptions. But thats what they do so good and bad accused end up in jail for the wrong reasons.

Laws don't work. Its about controling the populace in a bogus order. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. Few rule and the rest follow.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Laws don't work. Its about controling the populace in a bogus order. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. Few rule and the rest follow.

Well... I wouldn't say that.

Law does work, and more importantly, it is necessary, so whether it works or not is irrelevant.

The problem is that the law is too complex. No one understands it completely, not even lawyers. Therefore, people with the most knowledge of the law can use it for their own purposes,or in a foolish fashion, often at the expense of others. Hence the people's general hatred of lawyers and politicians.

What we really need is a simpler code of laws that can basically be understood by the everybody. We sort of have that anyway, the entire country isn't in jail. People (and the police) just ignore dumb laws and aren't even aware of the existence of many of them. And life goes on.

The danger of this is that some people with more knowledge of the law can pick and choose when to enforce these laws that no one cares about. We've all heard the TV commercials from law firms asking "Has this happened to you? Call us."
Sometimes these commercials are about legitimate legal violations but more often than not they are only there because some jacka$$ with a law degree read some book and found some long-forgotten case or obscure law that can be used to generate income for himself by getting people to sue someone or something.

So, back to the simple code of laws. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a document that laid out a basic set of laws and principles that were sound, and also limited the power of legislators to make it hard for them to introduce bad laws. Maybe this document would take some measures to ensure that it couldn't be changed unless a significant majority of the people approved the change.

We have a document like that right now, but what's left of it is currently being used for a doormat at the entrance of the capitol building in D.C. So we might need a new one if we can't retrieve or repair it.


I made myself mad again. I'll stop before this becomes a rant.

[Sailor Steve]

Sounds like a saying an old friend of mine is fond of using:

Rule of thumb #1: Never make a law you can't enforce.