God trumps doctors for many Americans.

Enigma · 08-19-08, 02:27 AM

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An eye-opening survey reveals widespread belief that divine intervention can revive dying patients. And, researchers said, doctors "need to be prepared to deal with families who are waiting for a miracle.

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stabiz · 08-19-08, 02:46 AM

I blame this on Greys Anatomy.

Fincuan · 08-19-08, 03:01 AM

I agree. People should spend their time with House and Bodies instead.

cj95 · 08-19-08, 03:13 AM

Im an RN who works inthe ICU, so I see this alot.

Most Doctors are too chicken to talk to the families about the reality of the situation and usually leave the door open for 'hope' when in most xases the patient is already dead.

That said, I have seen some pretty miraculous recoveries of people that I thought were done for but overall that is not the situation.

Platapus · 08-19-08, 04:15 AM

We used to call this "Vis medicatrix naturae" - The healing power of nature

jumpy · 08-19-08, 06:50 AM

Sorry, but ...LOL!

joegrundman · 08-19-08, 07:13 AM

It's certainly cheaper

Digital_Trucker · 08-19-08, 08:08 AM

Not exactly a definitive scientific study. A whopping thousand people surveyed over the phone. IMO surveys are a crock

Tango589 · 08-19-08, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

We used to call this "Vis medicatrix naturae" - The healing power of nature

How about 'Deus ex machina'?

Jimbuna · 08-19-08, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Not exactly a definitive scientific study. A whopping thousand people surveyed over the phone. IMO surveys are a crock

Probably rang them during the cheap rate period as well

Platapus · 08-19-08, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango589

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Originally Posted by Platapus

We used to call this "Vis medicatrix naturae" - The healing power of nature

How about 'Deus ex machina'?

Aint that a video game?

Stealth Hunter · 08-19-08, 04:05 PM

Reminds me of the boy who was supposedly cured of his tumors (which were all throughout his body) by God...

Tumors came back a month later. The boy was also receiving kemo. Had nothing to do with God. It's science and medicine...

Platapus · 08-19-08, 05:11 PM

A belief in god can give some people hope. Hope combined with medical care can be enough to turn a person's ailment around.

Most doctors would agree that a positive mental attitude can do wonders for a patient. Hope can give some people that positive mental attitude.

It is only when patients concentrate on the hope and neglect the medical sciences that is disturbing.

Letum · 08-19-08, 05:26 PM

Thats nothing compared to how often god trumps taking personal moral responsibility.

UnderseaLcpl · 08-19-08, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Most doctors would agree that a positive mental attitude can do wonders for a patient. Hope can give some people that positive mental attitude.

Similarly they can make themselves sick. Hypochondriacs

08-19-08, 02:46 AM	#2
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I blame this on Greys Anatomy. __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	We used to call this "Vis medicatrix naturae" - The healing power of nature __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	waiting for a miracle Sorry, but ...LOL! __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

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joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	It's certainly cheaper __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

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Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Not exactly a definitive scientific study. A whopping thousand people surveyed over the phone. IMO surveys are a crock __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.

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Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I agree. People should spend their time with House and Bodies instead.

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cj95 Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 258 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 0	Im an RN who works inthe ICU, so I see this alot. Most Doctors are too chicken to talk to the families about the reality of the situation and usually leave the door open for 'hope' when in most xases the patient is already dead. That said, I have seen some pretty miraculous recoveries of people that I thought were done for but overall that is not the situation.

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Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Reminds me of the boy who was supposedly cured of his tumors (which were all throughout his body) by God... Tumors came back a month later. The boy was also receiving kemo. Had nothing to do with God. It's science and medicine...

08-19-08, 05:11 PM	#13
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	A belief in god can give some people hope. Hope combined with medical care can be enough to turn a person's ailment around. Most doctors would agree that a positive mental attitude can do wonders for a patient. Hope can give some people that positive mental attitude. It is only when patients concentrate on the hope and neglect the medical sciences that is disturbing. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Thats nothing compared to how often god trumps taking personal moral responsibility. __________________