America's fundamental change

[Skybird]

... is in demographics and ethnicities.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...on/012496.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/wa...gewanted=print

then at the latest, plicies will have seen chnages. and even in avdance, existing politicians will start to change in attempts to fish for different groups of voters.

since the chnages are going very fast, fromm a sociological point of view, I cannot form any real vision of what america will be like in 40, 50, 60 years. But it won't be the traditional America of the proverbial WASP anymore.

[AVGWarhawk]

Welcome to the great melting pot.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Welcome to the great melting pot.

Where now the pot itself is melting...(!?)

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Where now the pot itself is melting...(!?)

People like you have been forecasting our imminent demise for centuries. If you spent half the time worrying about your own nation as you do about ours Germany would actually be a half decent place to live.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Where now the pot itself is melting...(!?)

Can you expand on this? I'm not quite sure what you are saying here.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

Can you expand on this? I'm not quite sure what you are saying here.

the context that nevertheless gave a framework (the dominance of WASP's cultural dogma) to "melting" (in which it took place and to what it more or less adapted), is loosing in structural integrity.

[August]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

Can you expand on this? I'm not quite sure what you are saying here.

He thinks because we let non white people immigrate to our country that we're going to collapse under a tide of unwashed peasants.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Skybird

.blah blah blah, I cannot form any real vision of what america will be like in 40, 50, 60 years. But it won't be the traditional America of the proverbial WASP anymore.

I don't know what America you speak of, but the one I live in is not "the traditional America of the proverbial WASP" now.

[Schöneboom]

What matters in the long run is not the ethnic mix, but how well the immigrants assimilate into the culture, esp. in terms of adopting the language & values. So far we've been fortunate that our immigrants have been motivated to adapt out of self-interest. Actually some of our native-born population needs to achieve fluency in English!

We could have a population as mixed as Brazil's and still be American as ever. And dare I say we have a bit more experience in absorbing waves of immigration than Europe. Having visited several times (UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy), I reckon it's the EU that could have a problem with rapid demographic changes.

Ciao,
Wayne

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Schöneboom

What matters in the long run is not the ethnic mix, but how well the immigrants assimilate into the culture, esp. in terms of adopting the language & values.

That is precisely the point I am pointint at. For the most, your goals have not been questioned, and they derive from a cultural heritage formed by white christian europeans. And this dominance of cultural values and a national tradition deriving from these - is to be expected to chnage. that was different in the past waves or constant processes of immigration. It also means that ethnic patterns on the ground are changing. Some weeks ago for exaple there was a documentary essay about how the ethnic structure of inhabitants in Miami has massively changed over the past 60 years (people with a white european background moved away, hispanics massively replacing them, I think), and how this is reflected in changes of local policies, and chnaging focusses of local political projects.

[Frame57]

It already looks like Mexico here in California. But the politics of the Country will resemble the feminized socialistic Europe we see today. Yes, America is following its ancestor into the future. Morals are now immoral, Illegals are now legal, Churches will only be of historical value, economic and political policies will be unified, Women will now wear the pants, diversity has become perversity, the people have become the sheeple.... I pray as long as there is patriotic blood flowing through the veins of men, that this will not be. If this does unfold in the course of human events, then I will know that the last patriot has died.

John Lennon can shove his song "Imagine" where the son does not shine. Sure, imagine there is no country..... that is what will happen if things do not change.Progressiveness is just another "buzz" word for socialism. Some people want that and that is fine. But the concept of American Independance is what America is all about. Free trade does not have to be socially engineered to bring America to a 2nd or 3rd world country. There is no logical sense to have a North American Union. Only to the few who would become even wealthier, would such nonsense make sense. If we are at that point then we have arrived to enact our constitutional right to take the affairs and direction of our Country out of the hands of the bums in Washington and steer this ship of the shoals. But the people are asleep still and Nero fiddles while Rome burns. Someday soon the alarm clock will ring and all the bums in Washington D.C. will reason with their treason. Because they are guilty of it.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by August

People like you have been forecasting our imminent demise for centuries. If you spent half the time worrying about your own nation as you do about ours Germany would actually be a half decent place to live.

This is hallarious, but so true!

Hey guess what? To anyone that hasn't noticed, we are still here! Last I checked, we are still the world power too! :p

-S

[Platapus]

For all the problems with America (and we have plenty of problems), America still remains a pretty nice place to live.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

It sure is ! It's just too bad there's so many Americans in there

Well I think that America would be a better place to life if about half of the people moved away. LoL

[Frame57]

Originally Posted by Platapus

For all the problems with America (and we have plenty of problems), America still remains a pretty nice place to live.

Bravo! A blessed America is a blessing to everyone. As is any Country. I have never been a person who felt the American spirit had to be infused with a superiority complex. people came here for freedom and opportunity that they could not find in their Countries. Where will they go when that ceases to be? People of all Countries should have common respect for each other borders, language and culture. This is what makes a Country a Country.