Oil tankers doubt!

VonDos · 07-31-08, 02:36 PM

HI everyone!
While sinkig a improved T2, i've received this idea:
if a tanker is trasporting gasoline, oil ecc, why her "fuel reserve" on her image in recognition manual is so small? Shouldn't be great like half ship? :hmm:

Letum · 07-31-08, 04:11 PM

1) Cargo is not fuel reserve
2) Tanker fuel and tanker cargo fuel may not be the same
3) Might be tricky to run a pipe from cargo to fuel tank safely

kenijaru · 07-31-08, 04:31 PM

i think he means:
fuel bunker contains fuel.
if the fuel bunker is hit the ship will explode.
the cargo bunker contains fuel.
therefore... if the cargo bunker is ****, the ship should go KABOOOOOOM!
also, the fuel (cargo) bunkers, altho not connected to the fuel(standard) bunkers... are still "fuel bunkers"... (i didn't loose any of you in the explanation, did i

)

U-46 Commander · 07-31-08, 08:24 PM

Yes, If you hit the tanker, it should go KABOOM!!!!!

bookworm_020 · 07-31-08, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by U-46 Commander

Yes, If you hit the tanker, it should go KABOOM!!!!!

Unless it's traveling in ballast, meaning there is only warter in the tanks. thant means no boom and more torpedos needed to sink her.

GoldenRivet · 07-31-08, 09:56 PM

you guys keep saying things like "boom boom" and Balz is going to show up!

rifleman13 · 08-01-08, 12:58 AM

I agree, a ship that carries any kind of fuel in her cargo hold should light up like a Roman candle!

VonDos · 08-01-08, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenijaru

i think he means:
fuel bunker contains fuel.
if the fuel bunker is hit the ship will explode.
the cargo bunker contains fuel.
therefore... if the cargo bunker is ****, the ship should go KABOOOOOOM!
also, the fuel (cargo) bunkers, altho not connected to the fuel(standard) bunkers... are still "fuel bunkers"... (i didn't loose any of you in the explanation, did i

)

Yes, true explanation, thanks!

BasilY · 08-01-08, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rifleman13

I agree, a ship that carries any kind of fuel in her cargo hold should light up like a Roman candle!

Hitting fuel in cargo area doesn't necessarily lead to explosion. See Mythbuster regarding the myth about shooting at a gas tanks. For there to be an explosion, the fuel/air mixture must be in the right range. Different type of fuel is also important, Crude is not too combustible, even fuel oil such as diesel need the right condition to explode, where as kerozene will really get the fire work started quite quickly.

That said, once the fire get started, any type of fuel will most likely consume the ship, metal and all. However, in SH3/GWX, those dedicated merchant crew will never abandon ship even while they are being burnt to a crisp by tens of thousands gallons of fuel. They will keep manning the deck gun till the ship goes down...

VonDos · 08-01-08, 05:01 AM

Yes, because they're brave (like Titanic orchestra)

rifleman13 · 08-01-08, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BasilY

Hitting fuel in cargo area doesn't necessarily lead to explosion. See Mythbuster regarding the myth about shooting at a gas tanks. For there to be an explosion, the fuel/air mixture must be in the right range. Different type of fuel is also important, Crude is not too combustible, even fuel oil such as diesel need the right condition to explode, where as kerozene will really get the fire work started quite quickly.

Forgot that episode!

Bronzewing · 08-01-08, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BasilY

Quote:

Originally Posted by rifleman13

I agree, a ship that carries any kind of fuel in her cargo hold should light up like a Roman candle!

Hitting fuel in cargo area doesn't necessarily lead to explosion. See Mythbuster regarding the myth about shooting at a gas tanks. For there to be an explosion, the fuel/air mixture must be in the right range. Different type of fuel is also important, Crude is not too combustible, even fuel oil such as diesel need the right condition to explode, where as kerozene will really get the fire work started quite quickly.

That said, once the fire get started, any type of fuel will most likely consume the ship, metal and all. However, in SH3/GWX, those dedicated merchant crew will never abandon ship even while they are being burnt to a crisp by tens of thousands gallons of fuel. They will keep manning the deck gun till the ship goes down...

That was using BULLETS not High explosive torpedoes, big difference there. Does rather depend on what kind of fuel a tanker was carrying though. It should certainly be a lot more flammable at least, and if it's carrying aviation fuel then it would DEFINITELY explode! Aviation fuel tankers were famous for doing so when hit in ww2.

FIREWALL · 08-01-08, 11:46 AM

it really comes down to how the modders set up the tankers cargo.

UnderseaLcpl · 08-01-08, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

you guys keep saying things like "boom boom" and Balz is going to show up!

Nah, he would only show up if one said "Le Boom". He's all Franco-German now, remember.

Oh crap I just said it

Torp III · 08-01-08, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

you guys keep saying things like "boom boom" and Balz is going to show up!

Nah, he would only show up if one said "Le Boom". He's all Franco-German now, remember.

Oh crap I just said it

Wouldn't that be "Le Boom-Boom Hoochie-Woochie"

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07-31-08, 02:36 PM	#1
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,352 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 60	Oil tankers doubt! HI everyone! While sinkig a improved T2, i've received this idea: if a tanker is trasporting gasoline, oil ecc, why her "fuel reserve" on her image in recognition manual is so small? Shouldn't be great like half ship? :hmm: __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

07-31-08, 04:11 PM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	1) Cargo is not fuel reserve 2) Tanker fuel and tanker cargo fuel may not be the same 3) Might be tricky to run a pipe from cargo to fuel tank safely __________________

07-31-08, 08:24 PM	#4
U-46 Commander Lieutenant Join Date: May 2008 Location: The absolutely most exciting state!! Iowa! Posts: 251 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Yes, If you hit the tanker, it should go KABOOM!!!!! __________________ "Loved By Few, Hated By Many, Respected By All."-The U-boats.

07-31-08, 09:56 PM	#6
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	you guys keep saying things like "boom boom" and Balz is going to show up! __________________

08-01-08, 05:01 AM	#10
VonDos Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,352 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 60	Yes, because they're brave (like Titanic orchestra) __________________ Those, others and WIP ships are avaiable in my SHIPYARD here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=136508

07-31-08, 04:31 PM	#3
kenijaru Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 369 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i think he means: fuel bunker contains fuel. if the fuel bunker is hit the ship will explode. the cargo bunker contains fuel. therefore... if the cargo bunker is ****, the ship should go KABOOOOOOM! also, the fuel (cargo) bunkers, altho not connected to the fuel(standard) bunkers... are still "fuel bunkers"... (i didn't loose any of you in the explanation, did i )

08-01-08, 12:58 AM	#7
rifleman13 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: Depth-charged to Kingdom Come Posts: 927 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I agree, a ship that carries any kind of fuel in her cargo hold should light up like a Roman candle!

08-01-08, 11:46 AM	#13
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	it really comes down to how the modders set up the tankers cargo. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???