Dubb-Ya and waterboarding

DeepIron · 03-08-08, 02:46 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/....ap/index.html

Quote:

"The bill Congress sent me would take away one of the most valuable tools in the war on terror," Bush said in his weekly radio address taped for broadcast Saturday. "So today I vetoed it," Bush said.

He makes me sick... I'd love to get his a** on a interrogation waterboard...

Dowly · 03-08-08, 04:07 PM

Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.

DeepIron · 03-08-08, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.

Too true...

bradclark1 · 03-08-08, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.

I didn't even know we had any. Where are they?

Dowly · 03-08-08, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.

I didn't even know we had any. Where are they?

Now, let's not start nit-picking.

Just ignore that line.

bradclark1 · 03-08-08, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Now, let's not start nit-picking.

Just ignore that line.

Oh, Ok.

Dowly · 03-08-08, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Now, let's not start nit-picking.

Just ignore that line.

Oh, Ok.

Letum · 03-08-08, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.

That is a tidy way of putting it.

Platapus · 03-09-08, 08:04 AM

Well one thing is for sure. George W Bush's place in history is established.

This was a bad decision.

"No man is justified in doing evil on the ground of expediency." Theodore Roosevelt, 'The Strenuous Life,' 1900

03-10-08, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.

That is a tidy way of putting it.

Allow me to add the obligatory <AOL>Me Too!</AOL> to that statement.
Bush can't have things both ways. If it's wrong for other, third-world countries to resort to torture of another country's soldiers, then it's wrong for everyone. Can't use a case of "Oh, we know how much to torture and we know when to stop." crap. If its wrong for one, it's wrong for everyone. Sorry, Bush, you can't be selective in who can and cannot torture people.

Brag · 03-10-08, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.

A sad and shameful event. In Nurenberg they tried Nazis for less

August · 03-10-08, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepIron

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/....ap/index.html

Quote:

"The bill Congress sent me would take away one of the most valuable tools in the war on terror," Bush said in his weekly radio address taped for broadcast Saturday. "So today I vetoed it," Bush said.

He makes me sick... I'd love to get his a** on a interrogation waterboard...

Pilots normally have to attend SERE school and they do that kind of stuff there.

Platapus · 03-11-08, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Pilots normally have to attend SERE school and they do that kind of stuff there.

I wonder if that school was one of the duties bush "missed" during his "tour" in the Texas/Alabama ANG?

After WWII the United States tried Japanese military and civilians for waterboarding and gave them many years at hard labour. But that was different you see.

That was "bad" torture

We only do "good" torture

Gooses and Ganders, Pots and Kettles

Letum · 03-11-08, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepIron

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/....ap/index.html

Quote:

"The bill Congress sent me would take away one of the most valuable tools in the war on terror," Bush said in his weekly radio address taped for broadcast Saturday. "So today I vetoed it," Bush said.

He makes me sick... I'd love to get his a** on a interrogation waterboard...

Pilots normally have to attend SERE school and they do that kind of stuff there.

I doubt they go as far as waterboarding.
It is not uncommon for people to suffer broken or dislocated limbs from the practice through struggling against the restraints.

Some short reading

DeepIron · 03-11-08, 12:47 PM

To be honest, I'm so disgusted with being an American, I'm seriously thinking about a visa to Canada and renouncing my citizenship... (but I'll do legally, not like the unwashed hordes crossing the US border from the south).

I have friends in BC who will sponsor me and my wife and we both have job skills that would qualify us for permanent citizenship.

The America I grew up believing in no longer exists...

03-09-08, 08:04 AM	#9
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Well one thing is for sure. George W Bush's place in history is established. This was a bad decision. "No man is justified in doing evil on the ground of expediency." Theodore Roosevelt, 'The Strenuous Life,' 1900 __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-11-08, 12:47 PM	#15
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	To be honest, I'm so disgusted with being an American, I'm seriously thinking about a visa to Canada and renouncing my citizenship... (but I'll do legally, not like the unwashed hordes crossing the US border from the south). I have friends in BC who will sponsor me and my wife and we both have job skills that would qualify us for permanent citizenship. The America I grew up believing in no longer exists... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

03-08-08, 04:07 PM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Oh well, this only means that we will see less "OMG OMG OMG AL QAIDA JUST TORTURED OUR SOLDIERS" threads here, because America just lost it's right to condemn torture by allowing it.