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Old 02-21-08, 11:02 AM   #1
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Default The poker game continues in the latest satillite shootdown

I guess it all comes down to what do you want to show your enemy - the possible secrets of your spy satillites? Or the fact that our Aegis SM Block 3 can leave the atmosphere no problem? Or the fact that this SM Block 3 can kill your sat too with only a minor software mod?

Seems the idea of not letting an enemy getting it's hands on our spy sat capability is a more important hand to play than to let the world know what the true capability of the SM Block 3 is.

Let the poker game continue. The US still has all the chips, though its potential rivals just picked up a few.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us...ml?ref=science

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Old 02-21-08, 11:38 AM   #2
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You should rename your thread that they shot down the darn thing ...

I had to go to the link to find this out ...

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Video of the unusual operation showed the missile leaving a bright trail as it streaked toward the satellite, and then a flash, a fireball, a plume and a cloud as the interceptor, at a minimum, appeared to have found its target, a satellite that went dead shortly after being launched in 2006.
All of this talk about shooting down a spy satellite and I didn't know it never even worked ... perhaps someone shot a laser weapon at it shortly after it was launched for all we know.

Didn't CIA lose like three of these things at the cost of a billion dollars each on the launch pad in California back in the late 90's ...

yep, I think so.
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Or perhaps they just wanted to blow sumptin up!
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You know they were drooling at the opportunity to test fire the missle at something.
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Ironic that the Chinese shot one of their own down a last year and are now belly-aching about the US action...

The Russians think we're tryig to escalate a "space weapons" war...

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The US wanted to flex some muscle. It worked.
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The US wanted to flex some muscle. It worked.
Perhaps. But to what advantage? "Don't even think about bullying the US"?

We flexed our muscle with the first Atomic Bomb, then ICBMs, then Blackbirds and U-2 overflights, spy satellites, stealth aircraft, etc...

Does anyone feel any safer?
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The US wanted to flex some muscle. It worked.
Hardly. Try the cats out of the bag. This was the lesser of two evils in their book. The US would rather keep things secret. They never want to flex their muscle.

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All worries about escalations aside.

Bravo Zulu for a good kill, US
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Ironic that the Chinese shot one of their own down a last year and are now belly-aching about the US action...

The Russians think we're tryig to escalate a "space weapons" war...

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That is funny. The Chinese sat blast includes debris that will be in orbit as a space hazard to sats and shuttles for years to come. When the US did it, all the debris will fall to Earth within a week, which is why they waited so long to take the shot.

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The US wanted to flex some muscle. It worked.
Hardly. Try the cats out of the bag. This was the lesser of two evils in their book. The US would rather keep things secret. They never want to flex their muscle.

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This was untested. This was a perfect way to test the rocket all be it "the cat is out of bag" as it were. This was a risk they were willing to take. Once done, muscle was flexed.
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I have no doubt it was a case of "see, this will happen to your satellites etc if we dont like you any more"
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I have no doubt it was a case of "see, this will happen to your satellites etc if we dont like you any more"
Hardly. They already know that we posses that capability with our ABM's station in AK and CA. What it does show is that even our SM3's have that capability too. That I was guessing was wanted to keep secret since Russia's stance on defeating this technology relied on a fast boost to orbit technology to get out of range quickly - problem is now they know that orbit is not out of reach of the SM3's, so I doubt Russia is too happy about this at all.

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Yeh ok, i wont argue too much with that.

I think the timing may've [played a part too, tho. You've got news about india making their own slbms, the latest article this morning stating that iran may well be closer than people are happy to believe to having nukes, chinas continuing growth and russias resurgence..

i think the fact they chose to take it out now has a bit more to it than first appears.

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I have no doubt it was a case of "see, this will happen to your satellites etc if we dont like you any more"
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