XXI reworked skins are waiting for release.

lutzow · 09-23-07, 05:33 AM

Some time ago magic user named Racerboy has reworked for me some skins for type XXI. [I requested this]. Original authors of those skins are Sikkboy ''Geheimprojekt Typ XXI'' and Type941''ModernType21 Skin''.
Before reworking, in GWX skins has not visible emblem,radio loop antenna and there was no water reflections.
Because i wanted to give those reworked skins for SUBSIM community, i sended letters to Sikkboy and Type941 with request for permission.
Date of requesting - 19.VIII.2007 - so over 1 month ago.
Here are my letters for request permission:
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Letter to Sikkboy
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Title:Request permission.
Hi Kaleun
Modder named Racerboy has reworked your skin for XXI type.
He was modified DAT file in your original released file named
''Geheimprojekt Typ XXI'' and that modified file is for SH3 with GWX .
New skin now has visible emblem,radio loop antenna and water
reflections. All that together gives us super skin for GWX type XXI.
Original colours released by you are NOT changed.
We want to ask you about PERMISSION to release modified
skin on SUBSIM forum for hundreds KaleunZ.
Are you agree?
Lutzow - abyss expolorer.
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Letter to Type941
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Title:Request permission.
Hi Kaleun
Modder named Racerboy has reworked your skin for XXI type.
He was modified DAT file in your original released file named
''ModernType21 Skin'' and that modified file is for SH3 with GWX .
New skin now has visible emblem,radio loop antenna and water
reflections. All that together gives us super skin for GWX type XXI.
Original colours released by you are NOT changed.
We want to ask you about PERMISSION to release modified
skin on SUBSIM forum for hundreds KaleunZ.
Are you agree?
Lutzow - abyss expolorer.
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They don't answered me yet and after looking into their personal files at
SUBSIM forum i lost hope for any permission...
Type941 last activity on SUBSIM forum was 25.II.2007 - Rank Old Man
Sikkboy last activity on SUBSIM forum was 31.XII.1969 (!!?) - Rank Bilge Rat [1 post]
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Some screens:
Geheimproject before reworking DAT files:

Geheimproject reworked:

Moderntype before reworking DAT files:

Moderntype reworked:

Here is also reworked NN skin [unrecognized author] for XXI type...
Maybe this is skin from SH3 1.4b - i don't remember [not played in naked SH3 from ages].
In orginal files there was no texture for air turrets:

so i founded my own...[i don't tell about it to Racerboy, but he's recognized
in one moment that this texture is from ''another courtyard'']

Now turrets are little darker than tower but there was no other for choice.

So - we got three amazing reworked skins for GWX u-boat type XXI.
[We - means me and Racerboy].
I have permission from Racerboy to release those files.
I have no permission for release from Type941 and Sikkboy.
I leave decision to all of you: [release or not] Kaleuns, so your feedback is needed.
All credits for reworking goes to Racerboy - i just provided him with those files.
And i take all consequences for event illegal release.

nikbear · 09-23-07, 11:35 AM

Please release the skins,I'm sure that the original authors would be fine as long as credit is given,you've gone out of your way to do that

so everything is fine I would have thought

Kodaita · 09-23-07, 12:46 PM

I would say go ahead and release them. You asked Sikkboy and Type941 for permission and waited long enough. No reason for their work to go unused just because they are no longer around. I am sure if they came back they would give permission anyways.

lutzow · 09-23-07, 01:09 PM

Verdammt - that are answers from only two Kaleuns and over 110 persons
passed over this thread without a word!!!

Sometimes i have a feeling that there is a huge pack of leechers - they
are looking only for links lines!

I'm very curious how many times those XXI skins will be downloaded after
release.

Spruence M · 09-23-07, 01:17 PM

I don't believe that anyone is going to have a problem with you releasing those skins. You have done everything possible short of stalking those guys in question.

The community is so great here, I'm convinced there will not be a problem.

TheDarkWraith · 09-23-07, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutzow

Verdammt - that are answers from only two Kaleuns and over 110 persons
passed over this thread without a word!!!

Sometimes i have a feeling that there is a huge pack of leechers - they
are looking only for links lines!

I feel your pain and angst. Nothing we can do about it but grin and bear it and keep moving on.

KrvKpt. Falke · 09-23-07, 02:45 PM

Please release them! You can't wait for someone who havent been here for almost a year or more. Give original modders a credit in readme and thats it.

Mast · 09-23-07, 07:00 PM

You've done everything trying to contact them. I think they wouldn't mind because their work is still being recognized and updated. Go for it.

Mast

Jhereg · 09-23-07, 07:44 PM

You could give this thread say a week to see if they respond, in case they are lurking on the boards.

If in that time there is no response, you have demonstrably made an effort to remain a reponsible forum member and release them.

Kodaita · 09-23-07, 09:31 PM

Just a quick note, I can't speak for anyone else, but I will certainly be downloading the XXI skins. I always have one career going with a XXI.

And on a personal note, I agree with Racerboy. All you can do is grin and bear it. Just make sure you don't grin and bare it :rotfl:

Cezbor · 09-24-07, 04:29 AM

Try to e-mail them again. If they will not answer in 14 days, you have a green light to relase those skins. Of course in txt. files their names and credits should be mentioned.

lutzow · 09-26-07, 12:54 PM

Reworked XXI skins uploaded here :
http://files.filefront.com/3+XXI+skins+REWORKED/;8647005;/fileinfo.html
[Rar file weight - 14,5 Mb]

Kaleuns: RACERBOY, Nikbear, Kodaita, Spruence M, KrvKpt. Falke, Mast, Jhereg, Cezbor
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THANK YOU

sh3rules · 09-26-07, 02:35 PM

From what I gather in this forum, not many people play with the XXI. I feel hopelessly outmatched when facing destroyers after 43, so having the XXI levels the playing field (at least for me). I enjoy playing with the XXI, and was hoping that somebody would fix this sub. We already have a few fixes, so this would be a great addition.

My take is, since they're acknowledged in the Readme, they shouldn't have a problem with it.

GO XXI!!!

Thanks for the files.

Kodaita · 09-26-07, 05:42 PM

I am loving these skins, but I have a bit of an issue. I can't make up my mind which to use. Can someone please ask the English and Americans to put the war on hold while I decide what paint scheme to use? This should only take a year or two :rotfl:

Paajtor · 09-27-07, 10:06 AM

Great work, Lutzow and Racerboy!

I found Type941's ''ModernType21 Skin'' on UBRS last spring (topic), and I liked it much more than the "stock" GWX-skin (for the awesome looks of course, but also because this skin had better textures on the turrets).
But there were a few issues, which now seem to have been fixed...thank you, Sirs!

09-23-07, 05:33 AM	#1
lutzow Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DanziG Posts: 819 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	XXI reworked skins are waiting for release.-[RELEASED] Some time ago magic user named Racerboy has reworked for me some skins for type XXI. [I requested this]. Original authors of those skins are Sikkboy ''Geheimprojekt Typ XXI'' and Type941''ModernType21 Skin''. Before reworking, in GWX skins has not visible emblem,radio loop antenna and there was no water reflections. Because i wanted to give those reworked skins for SUBSIM community, i sended letters to Sikkboy and Type941 with request for permission. Date of requesting - 19.VIII.2007 - so over 1 month ago. Here are my letters for request permission: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Letter to Sikkboy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title:Request permission. Hi Kaleun Modder named Racerboy has reworked your skin for XXI type. He was modified DAT file in your original released file named ''Geheimprojekt Typ XXI'' and that modified file is for SH3 with GWX . New skin now has visible emblem,radio loop antenna and water reflections. All that together gives us super skin for GWX type XXI. Original colours released by you are NOT changed. We want to ask you about PERMISSION to release modified skin on SUBSIM forum for hundreds KaleunZ. Are you agree? Lutzow - abyss expolorer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Letter to Type941 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Title:Request permission. Hi Kaleun Modder named Racerboy has reworked your skin for XXI type. He was modified DAT file in your original released file named ''ModernType21 Skin'' and that modified file is for SH3 with GWX . New skin now has visible emblem,radio loop antenna and water reflections. All that together gives us super skin for GWX type XXI. Original colours released by you are NOT changed. We want to ask you about PERMISSION to release modified skin on SUBSIM forum for hundreds KaleunZ. Are you agree? Lutzow - abyss expolorer. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They don't answered me yet and after looking into their personal files at SUBSIM forum i lost hope for any permission... Type941 last activity on SUBSIM forum was 25.II.2007 - Rank Old Man Sikkboy last activity on SUBSIM forum was 31.XII.1969 (!!?) - Rank Bilge Rat [1 post] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some screens: Geheimproject before reworking DAT files: Geheimproject reworked: Moderntype before reworking DAT files: Moderntype reworked: Here is also reworked NN skin [unrecognized author] for XXI type... Maybe this is skin from SH3 1.4b - i don't remember [not played in naked SH3 from ages]. In orginal files there was no texture for air turrets: so i founded my own...[i don't tell about it to Racerboy, but he's recognized in one moment that this texture is from ''another courtyard''] Now turrets are little darker than tower but there was no other for choice. So - we got three amazing reworked skins for GWX u-boat type XXI. [We - means me and Racerboy]. I have permission from Racerboy to release those files. I have no permission for release from Type941 and Sikkboy. I leave decision to all of you: [release or not] Kaleuns, so your feedback is needed. All credits for reworking goes to Racerboy - i just provided him with those files. And i take all consequences for event illegal release. __________________ Lutzow http://hosted.filefront.com/Lutzow1 Last edited by lutzow; 09-27-07 at 09:45 AM. Reason: Title corrections

09-23-07, 11:35 AM	#2
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Please release the skins,I'm sure that the original authors would be fine as long as credit is given,you've gone out of your way to do that so everything is fine I would have thought __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

09-23-07, 12:46 PM	#3
Kodaita A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would say go ahead and release them. You asked Sikkboy and Type941 for permission and waited long enough. No reason for their work to go unused just because they are no longer around. I am sure if they came back they would give permission anyways. __________________ "Helm, bridge...what are you doing 60 degrees off course?" "Bridge, helm...coming back from 90 degrees, sir."

09-23-07, 01:09 PM	#4
lutzow Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DanziG Posts: 819 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Verdammt - that are answers from only two Kaleuns and over 110 persons passed over this thread without a word!!! Sometimes i have a feeling that there is a huge pack of leechers - they are looking only for links lines! I'm very curious how many times those XXI skins will be downloaded after release. __________________ Lutzow http://hosted.filefront.com/Lutzow1

09-23-07, 02:45 PM	#7
KrvKpt. Falke Planesman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Iron Coffin Posts: 195 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Please release them! You can't wait for someone who havent been here for almost a year or more. Give original modders a credit in readme and thats it. __________________ - improved with GWX and...too many to list them here

09-23-07, 01:17 PM	#5
Spruence M Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 14 Meters Posts: 394 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I don't believe that anyone is going to have a problem with you releasing those skins. You have done everything possible short of stalking those guys in question. The community is so great here, I'm convinced there will not be a problem.

09-23-07, 07:00 PM	#8
Mast XO Join Date: May 2005 Location: Denver, CO. Posts: 403 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	You've done everything trying to contact them. I think they wouldn't mind because their work is still being recognized and updated. Go for it. Mast

09-23-07, 07:44 PM	#9
Jhereg Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 135 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You could give this thread say a week to see if they respond, in case they are lurking on the boards. If in that time there is no response, you have demonstrably made an effort to remain a reponsible forum member and release them.

09-23-07, 09:31 PM	#10
Kodaita A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just a quick note, I can't speak for anyone else, but I will certainly be downloading the XXI skins. I always have one career going with a XXI. And on a personal note, I agree with Racerboy. All you can do is grin and bear it. Just make sure you don't grin and bare it :rotfl: __________________ "Helm, bridge...what are you doing 60 degrees off course?" "Bridge, helm...coming back from 90 degrees, sir."

09-24-07, 04:29 AM	#11
Cezbor 中国水兵 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bia³ystok, Polska Posts: 272 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Try to e-mail them again. If they will not answer in 14 days, you have a green light to relase those skins. Of course in txt. files their names and credits should be mentioned. __________________ "U-106" No one will be forgotten... Last edited by Cezbor; 09-24-07 at 06:43 AM.

09-26-07, 12:54 PM	#12
lutzow Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DanziG Posts: 819 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Reworked XXI skins uploaded here : http://files.filefront.com/3+XXI+skins+REWORKED/;8647005;/fileinfo.html [Rar file weight - 14,5 Mb] Kaleuns: RACERBOY, Nikbear, Kodaita, Spruence M, KrvKpt. Falke, Mast, Jhereg, Cezbor ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THANK YOU __________________ Lutzow http://hosted.filefront.com/Lutzow1 Last edited by lutzow; 10-26-07 at 08:56 AM.

09-26-07, 02:35 PM	#13
sh3rules Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sailing the Seas of Lies Posts: 393 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	From what I gather in this forum, not many people play with the XXI. I feel hopelessly outmatched when facing destroyers after 43, so having the XXI levels the playing field (at least for me). I enjoy playing with the XXI, and was hoping that somebody would fix this sub. We already have a few fixes, so this would be a great addition. My take is, since they're acknowledged in the Readme, they shouldn't have a problem with it. GO XXI!!! Thanks for the files.

09-26-07, 05:42 PM	#14
Kodaita A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am loving these skins, but I have a bit of an issue. I can't make up my mind which to use. Can someone please ask the English and Americans to put the war on hold while I decide what paint scheme to use? This should only take a year or two :rotfl: __________________ "Helm, bridge...what are you doing 60 degrees off course?" "Bridge, helm...coming back from 90 degrees, sir."

09-27-07, 10:06 AM	#15
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	Great work, Lutzow and Racerboy! I found Type941's ''ModernType21 Skin'' on UBRS last spring (topic), and I liked it much more than the "stock" GWX-skin (for the awesome looks of course, but also because this skin had better textures on the turrets). But there were a few issues, which now seem to have been fixed...thank you, Sirs! __________________