3.0 Shaders SIlent Hunter 4

getmessedup · 09-15-07, 10:00 PM

Is it possible for you guys that bring about these wonderful mods, (LEO, Kriller, etc.) to make a patch for shader model 3.0 cards, to use shader 3.0? I don't know what would have to be done, or how massive that project would be, I just know alot of the guess on here, including myself, have capable cards...

THE_MASK · 09-15-07, 11:47 PM

Ubisoft did say they might do a DX10 patch .

flyingdane · 09-15-07, 11:52 PM

I..or my card use shader 2.0

getmessedup · 09-16-07, 12:25 AM

Is Direct x 10 the only one that supports 3.0? I thought 9c was able to do it. At any rate, 3.0, if done right would be great

d@rk51d3 · 09-16-07, 12:36 AM

The new cards I've seen advertised with shader 3.0, are still being sold as DX9 cards.

Soviet_Warlord · 09-16-07, 12:50 AM

Shader 3.0 dates back to the Nvidia 6*** (ie 6600) series of cards and the ATI x1**** (ie x1300) series of cards.

A DX10 patch would incorporate Shader Model 3.0, since all DX10 cards are SM3 capable.

kapitan_zur_see · 09-16-07, 03:32 PM

i'm not so sure, but making some mods to use SM 3.0 would be useless UNLESS you make new shaders effect for the game. Indeed, all the shaders in SH4 had been developped for SM 2.0. So one have to make new shaders that would benefit of some SM3.0-only effects. Not that easy i'd say!!

One could think of the use of HDR for example, wich is SM3.0 only (i specify that HDR is not just a bloom effect, as often confused).

getmessedup · 09-16-07, 05:35 PM

Seems like it would be a serious project, but I think the result would be astounding! I've seen 2.0 to 3.0 pictures, and this sim would look insane with it! Just think of this pic with 3.0 shaders, and effects...

leovampire · 09-16-07, 07:08 PM

gave me an Idea and called in a favor from a guy I know at Microsoft and found out a little more about how Dir X handles reflection's and shaders which will help me and the others in the team make the Reflection's on the Water mod a little beter I think.

One example of information he gave me:

Diffuse Coefficient: This controls the amount of color reflected from an object based on the direct light shining on it. A good default value is 0.4 and ideally ranges from 0.0 to 1.0. Some programs have a diffuse shading coefficient parameter (NuGraf/PolyTrans, Electric Image, etc) while others do not (3D Studio). If an export file format does not support a diffuse shading coefficient then this value will be multiplied into the diffuse shading color itself.

Amazing how many people you get to meet and know driving Truck cross country.

This is what your conversation got me the ability to do in just a short amount of time so thanks big time for the idea's.

Digital_Trucker · 09-16-07, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by leovampire

Amazing how many people you get to meet and know driving Truck cross country.

This is what you conversation got me the ability to do in just a short amount of time so thanks big time for the idea's.

Nice work, Leo.

Keep calling in those chips and we won't even recognize this thing by the time it gets finished. It's good to have friends in high places.

It is amazing how many things you can learn (and teach) just by a chance meeting in a truck stop or on the side of the road helping (or beng helped by) a fellow traveller.

getmessedup · 09-17-07, 04:26 PM

So that means your gonna 3.0 shade this bad boy then, right LEO!?

leovampire · 09-17-07, 04:45 PM

But I was able to get idea's from the conversation here and made a contact to help me with the work I just didn't understand properly didn't dawn on me until I read this post.

getmessedup · 09-17-07, 08:06 PM

I know, it was worth a shot... Your like a SH4 God, your suppose to make anything possible! LOL

09-15-07, 10:00 PM	#1
getmessedup Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	3.0 Shaders SIlent Hunter 4 Is it possible for you guys that bring about these wonderful mods, (LEO, Kriller, etc.) to make a patch for shader model 3.0 cards, to use shader 3.0? I don't know what would have to be done, or how massive that project would be, I just know alot of the guess on here, including myself, have capable cards...

09-15-07, 11:52 PM	#3
flyingdane Weps Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I..or my card use shader 2.0 __________________ It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

09-16-07, 12:50 AM	#6
Soviet_Warlord XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 416 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Shader 3.0 dates back to the Nvidia 6* (ie 6600) series of cards and the ATI x1** (ie x1300) series of cards. A DX10 patch would incorporate Shader Model 3.0, since all DX10 cards are SM3 capable. __________________

09-16-07, 03:32 PM	#7
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	not sure but... i'm not so sure, but making some mods to use SM 3.0 would be useless UNLESS you make new shaders effect for the game. Indeed, all the shaders in SH4 had been developped for SM 2.0. So one have to make new shaders that would benefit of some SM3.0-only effects. Not that easy i'd say!! One could think of the use of HDR for example, wich is SM3.0 only (i specify that HDR is not just a bloom effect, as often confused). __________________

09-16-07, 07:08 PM	#9
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I want to thank you guys for your conversation here gave me an Idea and called in a favor from a guy I know at Microsoft and found out a little more about how Dir X handles reflection's and shaders which will help me and the others in the team make the Reflection's on the Water mod a little beter I think. One example of information he gave me: Diffuse Coefficient: This controls the amount of color reflected from an object based on the direct light shining on it. A good default value is 0.4 and ideally ranges from 0.0 to 1.0. Some programs have a diffuse shading coefficient parameter (NuGraf/PolyTrans, Electric Image, etc) while others do not (3D Studio). If an export file format does not support a diffuse shading coefficient then this value will be multiplied into the diffuse shading color itself. Amazing how many people you get to meet and know driving Truck cross country. This is what your conversation got me the ability to do in just a short amount of time so thanks big time for the idea's. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water Last edited by leovampire; 09-16-07 at 08:33 PM.

09-15-07, 11:47 PM	#2
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Ubisoft did say they might do a DX10 patch .

09-16-07, 12:25 AM	#4
getmessedup Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Is Direct x 10 the only one that supports 3.0? I thought 9c was able to do it. At any rate, 3.0, if done right would be great

09-16-07, 12:36 AM	#5
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,951 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	The new cards I've seen advertised with shader 3.0, are still being sold as DX9 cards.

09-16-07, 05:35 PM	#8
getmessedup Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Seems like it would be a serious project, but I think the result would be astounding! I've seen 2.0 to 3.0 pictures, and this sim would look insane with it! Just think of this pic with 3.0 shaders, and effects...

09-17-07, 04:26 PM	#11
getmessedup Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	So that means your gonna 3.0 shade this bad boy then, right LEO!?

09-17-07, 04:45 PM	#12
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	not possable no getmessedup But I was able to get idea's from the conversation here and made a contact to help me with the work I just didn't understand properly didn't dawn on me until I read this post. __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

09-17-07, 08:06 PM	#13
getmessedup Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I know, it was worth a shot... Your like a SH4 God, your suppose to make anything possible! LOL