Dive planes animation...

Steel_Tomb · 08-04-07, 04:28 PM

It seems to get stuck constantly, and wont work after that. they just stay in the up position??? Has anyone released a hotfix for this, or is someone currently working on a mod to fix this? Its a pretty annoying little problem that is really bugging me.

buteobuteo · 08-04-07, 05:39 PM

I don't think there's a fix for it. I never use TC while diving or surfacing as this seems to be the main cause, I always save whilst surfaced as well and very rarely get this problem now.
If it does happen save the game on the suface,exit and reload and they should be OK.

chopped50ford · 08-05-07, 03:41 AM

are you referring to the bow planes?

I am currently on the USS Drum and my planes dont retract as needed. its frustrating and irritating.

When I was on the Spearfish, it seemed the bow planes retracted and worked fine. I wonder if its a modeling issue?

Ducimus · 08-05-07, 03:58 AM

I think the planes being stuck is a TC issue. THey only seem to act up when i crank up TC on the dive.

Steel_Tomb · 08-05-07, 04:37 AM

Yeah I am a bit happy wth the TC, I'll try to refrain from using it whilst changing depth. Cheers for the help.

lba · 08-05-07, 05:22 AM

I had never noticed this. Are you sure it's a TC issue? I see no reason to doubt your experiences and conclusions of course, but I'm pretty sure I’ve seen my bow planes both up and down even after using time compression during dives. NOOB question: Is it just a visual thing, or does it affect ones ability to dive? I've not noticed anything wrong with my dive times either, but then the only dive reference I do have would be this game so if it has been like this since the beginning, then.... dunno. As long as my sub dives fast enough to escape direct contact with the enemy this captain has no worries, but I guess not noticing non-working (external) parts on your sub is a bad sign of war fatigue so I better up my attention for details before my crew ends as seafood because of a big hole in the hull the captain did not notice, or worse command finds my lack of attention to be a hazard and forces me to become land lubber again.

Q3ark · 08-05-07, 05:42 AM

I also have tihs problem. However i have no problem with time compression, it only occurs if i save while submerged then re load that save. I encounter no probs if i save on the surface tho.

Misfit138 · 08-05-07, 05:55 AM

This has never happened to me due to TC. I use to dive TC set to anything between 32-1024 and it has never caused any problems

Loading a save when I'm submerged is the only time I've encountered this problem

switch.dota · 08-05-07, 02:16 PM

I always get this and I never submerege at less than 256x TC.

CaptainCox · 08-05-07, 02:20 PM

I had it once after 1.3...but I thought they fixed this in 1.3...not 100% but.
Well obviously not hey :p

kapitan_zur_see · 08-05-07, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q3ark

I also have tihs problem. However i have no problem with time compression, it only occurs if i save while submerged then re load that save. I encounter no probs if i save on the surface tho.

Exactly the same for me

Tobus · 08-06-07, 01:33 AM

Why bother? The planes don't seem to work anyway, they are more eyecandy than an integral part of diving mechanics in SH4.
See here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118833

Fearless · 08-06-07, 07:09 AM

Dive and surface at normal TC then use compression when either of those are done. Works for me.

Peto · 08-06-07, 11:20 AM

I've also seen this problem (a number of times) and I think I now know what causes it. If I save the game while submerged my dive planes don't rig out as they shopuld for the next boot--sometimes for the rest of the patrol. I've been saving games now only when surfaced and haven't had the glitch since I started doing that.

Maybe someone else can confirm this.

Cheers!

Peto

Woops! I just noticed that I'm confirming this from an earlier post. I hate it when I do that but at least my suspicions are confirmed!

bubbaj0nes · 08-06-07, 12:36 PM

actually everytime your game loads it "assumes" your surfaced and places the planes in the up position.

If you save underwater, the planes' position gets reversed, but dont move anymore as the model is in conflict.

Usually saving on the serface and reloading fixes it.

it isnt a TC issue, its a saving underwater issue.

08-04-07, 04:28 PM	#1
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dive planes animation... It seems to get stuck constantly, and wont work after that. they just stay in the up position??? Has anyone released a hotfix for this, or is someone currently working on a mod to fix this? Its a pretty annoying little problem that is really bugging me. __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| *Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.*

08-05-07, 03:41 AM	#3
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	are you referring to the bow planes? I am currently on the USS Drum and my planes dont retract as needed. its frustrating and irritating. When I was on the Spearfish, it seemed the bow planes retracted and worked fine. I wonder if its a modeling issue? __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/ Last edited by chopped50ford; 08-06-07 at 01:35 PM.

08-05-07, 04:37 AM	#5
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah I am a bit happy wth the TC, I'll try to refrain from using it whilst changing depth. Cheers for the help. __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| *Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.*

08-05-07, 05:22 AM	#6
lba Seaman Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 33 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I had never noticed this. Are you sure it's a TC issue? I see no reason to doubt your experiences and conclusions of course, but I'm pretty sure I’ve seen my bow planes both up and down even after using time compression during dives. NOOB question: Is it just a visual thing, or does it affect ones ability to dive? I've not noticed anything wrong with my dive times either, but then the only dive reference I do have would be this game so if it has been like this since the beginning, then.... dunno. As long as my sub dives fast enough to escape direct contact with the enemy this captain has no worries, but I guess not noticing non-working (external) parts on your sub is a bad sign of war fatigue so I better up my attention for details before my crew ends as seafood because of a big hole in the hull the captain did not notice, or worse command finds my lack of attention to be a hazard and forces me to become land lubber again. __________________

08-05-07, 02:20 PM	#10
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I had it once after 1.3...but I thought they fixed this in 1.3...not 100% but. Well obviously not hey :p __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

08-04-07, 05:39 PM	#2
buteobuteo Mate Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 55 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't think there's a fix for it. I never use TC while diving or surfacing as this seems to be the main cause, I always save whilst surfaced as well and very rarely get this problem now. If it does happen save the game on the suface,exit and reload and they should be OK.

08-05-07, 03:58 AM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I think the planes being stuck is a TC issue. THey only seem to act up when i crank up TC on the dive.

08-05-07, 05:42 AM	#7
Q3ark Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: York, England Posts: 346 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	I also have tihs problem. However i have no problem with time compression, it only occurs if i save while submerged then re load that save. I encounter no probs if i save on the surface tho.

08-05-07, 05:55 AM	#8
Misfit138 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 267 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	This has never happened to me due to TC. I use to dive TC set to anything between 32-1024 and it has never caused any problems Loading a save when I'm submerged is the only time I've encountered this problem

08-05-07, 02:16 PM	#9
switch.dota Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 492 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I always get this and I never submerege at less than 256x TC.

08-06-07, 01:33 AM	#12
Tobus Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 260 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Why bother? The planes don't seem to work anyway, they are more eyecandy than an integral part of diving mechanics in SH4. See here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118833

08-06-07, 07:09 AM	#13
Fearless Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,047 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 1	Dive and surface at normal TC then use compression when either of those are done. Works for me. __________________ Fearless System Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core 16 Thread CPU, 3.8GHz Base Clock, 4.7GHz Boost, 105W TDP, 32MB L3 cache \| MSI GeForce RTX3060Ti 8Gb Graphics \| Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32Gb (2x16Gb) 3200 MHz CL16 DDR4 Ram \| Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 1TB \| Seagate Barracuda 2.5in 2TB HDD \| AOC QHD 165 Hz FreeSync HDR curved 31.5in Monitor \| ASUS ROG Strix LC 240 ARGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler White Edition \| ASUS ROG Strix Gold 750W Modular Power Supply \| Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case White.

08-06-07, 11:20 AM	#14
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I've also seen this problem (a number of times) and I think I now know what causes it. If I save the game while submerged my dive planes don't rig out as they shopuld for the next boot--sometimes for the rest of the patrol. I've been saving games now only when surfaced and haven't had the glitch since I started doing that. Maybe someone else can confirm this. Cheers! Peto Woops! I just noticed that I'm confirming this from an earlier post. I hate it when I do that but at least my suspicions are confirmed!

08-06-07, 12:36 PM	#15
bubbaj0nes Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	actually everytime your game loads it "assumes" your surfaced and places the planes in the up position. If you save underwater, the planes' position gets reversed, but dont move anymore as the model is in conflict. Usually saving on the serface and reloading fixes it. it isnt a TC issue, its a saving underwater issue. __________________ My baby: Liquid Cooled AMD Athlon 64 3800+ ASUS A8N-SLI Premium Motherboard 2GB DDR 400 Mhz Kingston RAM 2x300GB Seagate Barracuda RAID 0 2xBFG Geforce 7900GS 256MB SLI Black Thermatake Shark Full Tower Case 22 inch LG Flatron Widescreen Monitor 8 Channel Onboard sound Sound Blaster Live! PCI (for headphones) Windows XP Professional Logitech X-530 5.1 Speaker system Logitech Cordless Mouse Microsoft Ergo Keyboard