What would your boat do? (just for fun)

danurve · 07-10-07, 09:55 AM

Time: 1940, late April.
VIIB, 70% fuel, 12 fish remaining, electrics in tubes 3&4.
Ok so lets say your boat is in BE and you've spotted an inbound Convoy moving about 8 knots. We got a handfull of Cargo Steamers, flanked T-3's, one or two Celt's, & Rose's, and the usual tramps along with 4 escorts. Weather isn't super calm but not rotten either. Your about 8000m ahead off the starbord quarter, still time to think about your attack run.*
Your best targets are flanked by other ships (no suprise).
Outside rows have decent targets, if you plug them first it might open the gap for a second run. But 4 escorts have enough teeth to keep you nervious. There will be time for a second attack, but if you wait to long you know what happens in the Western Aproaches, no where to run deep.

So, what would your Kaleun do?

1. If you manage to slab an escort first it might certainly make your escape run better, after all there's more targets to loop back for.

2. If you open the screen sure getting fish to those fat tankers might be easier for a second run, but one, maybe even two less escorts could make that journey better.

3. You could certainly go for the most tonnage, then go deep and get the $$#^ out of there.

*yeah well actually it was about 1 in the morning and I knew if I made the run then I'd be at it till probably 3am.

ichso · 07-10-07, 11:12 AM

Why try to open the screen ? If you position yourself in front of the convoy you can easily let it pass you by and you can attack anything from the middle of the convoy then.
To be sure that the front escort(s) don't detect you, maybe you should dive deep and get up when surrounded by the convoy ships.
If you attack from the middle you can also create many confusion and get a better chance to sneak away. Especially in this early stage of the war.

Even in the beginning I had no problems evading the 4 escorts of a convoy hunting me so they are perhaps just not very experienced in using there asdic against you so you can avoid being detected by going deep@1kn.

After my first run, when reloading torpedoes I would definitely take care that after that tubes 1&3 and tubes 2&4 carry the same type of torpedo so that can shoot 2-torp-salvos without mixing type I and II's.
Also I would make a note to take care of an according loadout when I'm in home port next time

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XLjedi · 07-10-07, 12:02 PM

Never waste a torpedo on a worthless escort.

* Position ahead of convoy track submerged at 100m

* As lead escort passes overhead begin your ascent to parascope depth trailing behind escort.

* Up periscope in middle of the convoy and unleash all fish fore and aft.

* Descend to 100m for reload, and repeat if possible...

Canovaro · 07-10-07, 12:32 PM

^ I'd go with that. Stay silent all the way.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 07-10-07, 12:37 PM

i choose option 4

surface and engage with both torpedo's and DG

merchies with the torpedo's and escorts with the DG

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!

Mohr

Brag · 07-10-07, 03:23 PM

I maneuver to get the fatties. If I manage to sink two with bow torpedoes and one with stern, that's, 30,000 tons. Time to dive and sneak away.

STEED · 07-10-07, 04:27 PM

Option five bare my broad buttocks at them and give them a eye full and while they are still stunned sink the biggest ship and clear off to a safer place.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 07-10-07, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Option five bare my broad buttocks at them and give them a eye full and while they are still stunned sink the biggest ship and clear off to a safer place.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
poor convoy

Mohr

d@rk51d3 · 07-10-07, 05:39 PM

Take out the T3's, or at least slow them down enough to return to them later. Anything else is a waste of eels.

sunvalleyslim · 07-10-07, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Option five bare my broad buttocks at them and give them a eye full and while they are still stunned sink the biggest ship and clear off to a safer place.

Yeah Steed I'm with you..............

:rotfl: :rotfl:

danurve · 07-11-07, 08:39 AM

STEED, you old War Horse

By the way, I'm not sure what's going on in the back of this horse, and perhaps it's better not to know.

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 07-11-07, 08:50 AM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

good one dan

Mohr

danurve · 07-11-07, 08:51 AM

Ok so I had time to play out this convoy attack, knew I was going to attempt a second run if I got away. Sure enough 3 escorts tried to slab my boat, mid 40's you can get away from them. Even after they lost me while I was creeping away I watched them pound the crap out of where they thought I was.
And so I was ready with tube 4 depth at 2.5 just in case. Never happened because at the last minute the escort to my port side took a turn and swept giving me more of a hole to work with. I aimed for the two cargo steamers and the T-3. Now usually if your positioned right and set your speeds this works out, but with two t2's a C2 'intercepted one of the fish intended for a steamer and took out it's screws. Wound up scoring the t3 and a heavy steamer, pinned the c-2. One fish was a dud. Finished off the c2 with a stern shot later.
Second run scored a celt, rose ore & another heavy steamer.

Sailor Steve · 07-11-07, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

i choose option 4

surface and engage with both torpedo's and DG

merchies with the torpedo's and escorts with the DG

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!

Mohr

You should probably change your screen name to "DeadMan".:rotfl:

Or maybe "King Of The Deadmen".

STEED · 07-11-07, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danurve

STEED, you old War Horse

Better than a mad dog. :rotfl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by danurve

By the way, I'm not sure what's going on in the back of this horse, and perhaps it's better not to know.

Butt plug for the horse? :hmm:

View Poll Results: After reading the post about the boats situation, what would you have your Kaleun do?
Try and plug one escort first, then attack two merchants to open the gap. 1 less DD to D/C the boat.	5	14.71%
Plan your attack on the screening merchants, escort as a target of opertunity. "I'll be back."	4	11.76%
Try and sneek fish past the outside rows and attack the largest targets first. Escorts be damned.	25	73.53%
Voters: 34. You may not vote on this poll

07-10-07, 09:55 AM	#1
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	What would your boat do? (just for fun) Time: 1940, late April. VIIB, 70% fuel, 12 fish remaining, electrics in tubes 3&4. Ok so lets say your boat is in BE and you've spotted an inbound Convoy moving about 8 knots. We got a handfull of Cargo Steamers, flanked T-3's, one or two Celt's, & Rose's, and the usual tramps along with 4 escorts. Weather isn't super calm but not rotten either. Your about 8000m ahead off the starbord quarter, still time to think about your attack run.* Your best targets are flanked by other ships (no suprise). Outside rows have decent targets, if you plug them first it might open the gap for a second run. But 4 escorts have enough teeth to keep you nervious. There will be time for a second attack, but if you wait to long you know what happens in the Western Aproaches, no where to run deep. So, what would your Kaleun do? 1. If you manage to slab an escort first it might certainly make your escape run better, after all there's more targets to loop back for. 2. If you open the screen sure getting fish to those fat tankers might be easier for a second run, but one, maybe even two less escorts could make that journey better. 3. You could certainly go for the most tonnage, then go deep and get the $$#^ out of there. *yeah well actually it was about 1 in the morning and I knew if I made the run then I'd be at it till probably 3am. __________________

07-10-07, 11:12 AM	#2
ichso Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Germany's oldest city alive Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Why try to open the screen ? If you position yourself in front of the convoy you can easily let it pass you by and you can attack anything from the middle of the convoy then. To be sure that the front escort(s) don't detect you, maybe you should dive deep and get up when surrounded by the convoy ships. If you attack from the middle you can also create many confusion and get a better chance to sneak away. Especially in this early stage of the war. Even in the beginning I had no problems evading the 4 escorts of a convoy hunting me so they are perhaps just not very experienced in using there asdic against you so you can avoid being detected by going deep@1kn. After my first run, when reloading torpedoes I would definitely take care that after that tubes 1&3 and tubes 2&4 carry the same type of torpedo so that can shoot 2-torp-salvos without mixing type I and II's. Also I would make a note to take care of an according loadout when I'm in home port next time . __________________ My Subskins: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164169

07-10-07, 12:02 PM	#3
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	Never waste a torpedo on a worthless escort. * Position ahead of convoy track submerged at 100m * As lead escort passes overhead begin your ascent to parascope depth trailing behind escort. * Up periscope in middle of the convoy and unleash all fish fore and aft. * Descend to 100m for reload, and repeat if possible... __________________

07-10-07, 12:37 PM	#5
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	i choose option 4 surface and engage with both torpedo's and DG merchies with the torpedo's and escorts with the DG MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!! Mohr __________________ Gruß

07-10-07, 12:32 PM	#4
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	^ I'd go with that. Stay silent all the way.

07-10-07, 03:23 PM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I maneuver to get the fatties. If I manage to sink two with bow torpedoes and one with stern, that's, 30,000 tons. Time to dive and sneak away. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

07-10-07, 04:27 PM	#7
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Option five bare my broad buttocks at them and give them a eye full and while they are still stunned sink the biggest ship and clear off to a safer place. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-10-07, 05:39 PM	#9
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,951 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Take out the T3's, or at least slow them down enough to return to them later. Anything else is a waste of eels.

07-11-07, 08:39 AM	#11
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	STEED, you old War Horse By the way, I'm not sure what's going on in the back of this horse, and perhaps it's better not to know. __________________

07-11-07, 08:50 AM	#12
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: good one dan Mohr __________________ Gruß

07-11-07, 08:51 AM	#13
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Ok so I had time to play out this convoy attack, knew I was going to attempt a second run if I got away. Sure enough 3 escorts tried to slab my boat, mid 40's you can get away from them. Even after they lost me while I was creeping away I watched them pound the crap out of where they thought I was. And so I was ready with tube 4 depth at 2.5 just in case. Never happened because at the last minute the escort to my port side took a turn and swept giving me more of a hole to work with. I aimed for the two cargo steamers and the T-3. Now usually if your positioned right and set your speeds this works out, but with two t2's a C2 'intercepted one of the fish intended for a steamer and took out it's screws. Wound up scoring the t3 and a heavy steamer, pinned the c-2. One fish was a dud. Finished off the c2 with a stern shot later. Second run scored a celt, rose ore & another heavy steamer. __________________