GWX - through the english channel

seahunter · 06-24-07, 07:29 AM

Firstly hi everyone, I've just registered.

I've had SH3 for only about 3 weeks and downloaded the GWX v1.03 expansion last week (loving it btw

) and well I'm looking for some help!

It's probably because I'm just a newbie sub commander and thus not very good

, but I can't seem to get through the english channel without seemingly attracting every military ship within a 50km range!!

FYI
Home port - Wilhelmshaven
It's my third patrol (still 1939) and I've coped respectably with the first two patrols - both NE British Isles. I have been assigned patrol grid BE99 north-west of spain so it makes sense to go through the channel to get there. However no matter what I try it seems that they know I am there

. Tried sneaking through at night at periscope depth - got caught. Tried belting it through at flank speed at night - got caught. Tried silent running along the bottom ( channel not very deep though about 40m) - have to surface to get air and recharge batteries and subsequently - got caught.

Was thinking of just ignoring the patrol zone and go elsewhere, but I know it can be done and I want to overcome it. The Gibraltar straight must be impassible!

I'd appreciate any help on this guys as I'm getting quite frustrated

oh I'm in a type VIIB if that makes any difference.

abel29a · 06-24-07, 07:32 AM

NEVER go through the channel in GWX. End of story

(To many mines and patrols, and to little water to hide in)

As for the patrol grid, I'd install SH3 Commander if I was you, and change it to something more sensible, or go there at 8 knots and maybe you have enough fuel.

Jimbuna · 06-24-07, 07:46 AM

STAY OUT OF THE ENGLISH CHANNEL!!

Welcome aboard Kaleun

danlisa · 06-24-07, 07:47 AM

Go the long way around, north of Scotland. Set speed to 7-8 kts and you will be able to get there & back with fuel to spare.

Oh, BTW....

Stay out of the CHANNEL

The Gib straight is not impassable because it is deep.

Even without changing your patrol grid, you can still make it in a VIIB.

Use your Nav Officer! Plot your course, set your speed, then ask the NO for a report on 'maximum distance at this speed'. Remember, you need to get back home.

seahunter · 06-24-07, 07:55 AM

Oooookkkkaaaayyy! I'll stay out of the channel already!

Thanks guys, its the scenic route for me.

WolfOfCampscapel · 06-24-07, 07:59 AM

High speed on the surface, at night. Hope for bad weather (ideally heavy fog and high winds). Lie at all stop on the bottom from sunrise to sunset.

That's how I snuck through the last time, in my IXB, no less. Only light fog for much of the route, which was scary.

But it's still 1940 and happy times. I expect it to be impossible when the verdammtes allies discover radar.

GibsonSG · 06-24-07, 08:01 AM

I have made it through the Channel in GWX, 1939....Once.

I will not be trying it again though...it took me 4 days of sneaking along to get through alive.

Puster Bill · 06-24-07, 08:55 AM

Really, in 1939 you should be able to get through the Channel. Historically it was done. After that, well, viel gluck with that.

stabiz · 06-24-07, 11:09 AM

I once had the idea I would not only go throught the channel, but Gibraltar first. I then decided to record it and make a video. It ended in tears, with the loss off boat and crew west of Gibraltar. I have tried before, and I have NEVER gone through that blasted place after 1940.

So ... yeah, the Channel is a no-no, unless you are into horror and short campaigns.

siber · 06-24-07, 12:00 PM

Welcome Seahunter!

The English channel belongs to the Royal Navy. Don't go there. They PWN it and they'll PWN you!

It took me a long time to figure out that by pressing the button to the bottom-right of the speed indicator, you swap it from preset speeds to knot-by-knot speeds which you can set. Switch this to 8kts for the most efficient cruising in Type VIIb (or 5kts for Type IIa). As said above, use your navigator to calculate the best speed/range combinations for any particular situation.

Brag · 06-24-07, 08:21 PM

One cannot repeat often enough: Stay out of the Channel!!
Stay out of shallow water!!!!
Meanwhile: Welcome aboard and happy hunting

,

Redshirt · 06-24-07, 08:53 PM

If got assigned a grid way down there by Spain as well, and i was cutting it really low of fuel for a safe return trip and was out of eel's by the time i had completed the patrol of my grid, so i stopped in at one of the German supply ships that are in a couple of the Spanish ports, they should be marked in on your map in blue, and work the same as docking at any other friendly navel base

Got my tanks topped up with diesel and a full load of eel's and was ready for the return trip! :p

blue3golf · 06-24-07, 09:02 PM

You can easily make BE99 going around the northern tip by Scapa Flow runniing surfaced at night and submerge for the day, plenty of fuel. I'm on my way to DH77 from Wilhelmsaven, hopefully I can make it there and back, otherwise I'll be riding the current home.

Pablo · 06-25-07, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siber

The English channel belongs to the Royal Navy. Don't go there. They PWN it and they'll PWN you!

Hi!

I guess that's why they call it the "English" Channel.

Pablo

Vacillator · 06-25-07, 07:43 AM

Here's a few more thoughts from an earlier thread I started:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ighlight=Kanal

General gist is don't do it...

Welcome to the service by the way!

06-24-07, 07:29 AM	#1
seahunter Nub Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 4 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	GWX - through the english channel Firstly hi everyone, I've just registered. I've had SH3 for only about 3 weeks and downloaded the GWX v1.03 expansion last week (loving it btw ) and well I'm looking for some help! It's probably because I'm just a newbie sub commander and thus not very good , but I can't seem to get through the english channel without seemingly attracting every military ship within a 50km range!! FYI Home port - Wilhelmshaven It's my third patrol (still 1939) and I've coped respectably with the first two patrols - both NE British Isles. I have been assigned patrol grid BE99 north-west of spain so it makes sense to go through the channel to get there. However no matter what I try it seems that they know I am there . Tried sneaking through at night at periscope depth - got caught. Tried belting it through at flank speed at night - got caught. Tried silent running along the bottom ( channel not very deep though about 40m) - have to surface to get air and recharge batteries and subsequently - got caught. Was thinking of just ignoring the patrol zone and go elsewhere, but I know it can be done and I want to overcome it. The Gibraltar straight must be impassible! I'd appreciate any help on this guys as I'm getting quite frustrated oh I'm in a type VIIB if that makes any difference.

06-24-07, 07:32 AM	#2
abel29a Helmsman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 101 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	NEVER go through the channel in GWX. End of story (To many mines and patrols, and to little water to hide in) As for the patrol grid, I'd install SH3 Commander if I was you, and change it to something more sensible, or go there at 8 knots and maybe you have enough fuel. __________________ "Sieben Tankern schlug die letze Stund, die U-Falle sank träger. Zwei Frachter liegen mit auf Grund, Versenkt vom Paukenschläger." - Reinhard Hardegen, U-123 GWX 1.03 and loving it....

06-24-07, 07:46 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	STAY OUT OF THE ENGLISH CHANNEL!! Welcome aboard Kaleun __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-24-07, 07:47 AM	#4
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Go the long way around, north of Scotland. Set speed to 7-8 kts and you will be able to get there & back with fuel to spare. Oh, BTW.... Stay out of the CHANNEL The Gib straight is not impassable because it is deep. Even without changing your patrol grid, you can still make it in a VIIB. Use your Nav Officer! Plot your course, set your speed, then ask the NO for a report on 'maximum distance at this speed'. Remember, you need to get back home. __________________

06-24-07, 08:01 AM	#7
GibsonSG Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have made it through the Channel in GWX, 1939....Once. I will not be trying it again though...it took me 4 days of sneaking along to get through alive. __________________ There are only 2 kinds of ships...Submarines, and Targets.

06-24-07, 07:55 AM	#5
seahunter Nub Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 4 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Oooookkkkaaaayyy! I'll stay out of the channel already! Thanks guys, its the scenic route for me.

06-24-07, 07:59 AM	#6
WolfOfCampscapel Mate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: In the fjords Posts: 58 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	High speed on the surface, at night. Hope for bad weather (ideally heavy fog and high winds). Lie at all stop on the bottom from sunrise to sunset. That's how I snuck through the last time, in my IXB, no less. Only light fog for much of the route, which was scary. But it's still 1940 and happy times. I expect it to be impossible when the verdammtes allies discover radar.

06-24-07, 08:55 AM	#8
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Really, in 1939 you should be able to get through the Channel. Historically it was done. After that, well, viel gluck with that. __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

06-24-07, 11:09 AM	#9
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I once had the idea I would not only go throught the channel, but Gibraltar first. I then decided to record it and make a video. It ended in tears, with the loss off boat and crew west of Gibraltar. I have tried before, and I have NEVER gone through that blasted place after 1940. So ... yeah, the Channel is a no-no, unless you are into horror and short campaigns. __________________

06-24-07, 12:00 PM	#10
siber Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salford, Manchester, UK Posts: 182 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Welcome Seahunter! The English channel belongs to the Royal Navy. Don't go there. They PWN it and they'll PWN you! It took me a long time to figure out that by pressing the button to the bottom-right of the speed indicator, you swap it from preset speeds to knot-by-knot speeds which you can set. Switch this to 8kts for the most efficient cruising in Type VIIb (or 5kts for Type IIa). As said above, use your navigator to calculate the best speed/range combinations for any particular situation. __________________ Using GWX 3.0 at 100% realism, OLC's 'Ubermod' & Torpdamagefinal

06-24-07, 08:21 PM	#11
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	One cannot repeat often enough: Stay out of the Channel!! Stay out of shallow water!!!! Meanwhile: Welcome aboard and happy hunting , __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

06-24-07, 08:53 PM	#12
Redshirt Bosun Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 64 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If got assigned a grid way down there by Spain as well, and i was cutting it really low of fuel for a safe return trip and was out of eel's by the time i had completed the patrol of my grid, so i stopped in at one of the German supply ships that are in a couple of the Spanish ports, they should be marked in on your map in blue, and work the same as docking at any other friendly navel base Got my tanks topped up with diesel and a full load of eel's and was ready for the return trip! :p __________________ Reds under the bed!

06-24-07, 09:02 PM	#13
blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You can easily make BE99 going around the northern tip by Scapa Flow runniing surfaced at night and submerge for the day, plenty of fuel. I'm on my way to DH77 from Wilhelmsaven, hopefully I can make it there and back, otherwise I'll be riding the current home.

06-25-07, 07:43 AM	#15
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here's a few more thoughts from an earlier thread I started: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ighlight=Kanal General gist is don't do it... Welcome to the service by the way!