Upgrading boat and flotilla change?

siber · 05-19-07, 09:08 AM

Hi all!

I've just spend over an hour trying to get the correct combinations of search terms, but cannot find another thread that answers my question. Therefore, I hope that no-one minds my posting up another question for all you experienced Kaleuns out there...

For reference, I'm using GWX 1.03 and the standard mods included within. I also launch SH3 with SH3Commander.

I've been pootling about the North Sea in my Type IIA since Sept. 1939 in 1st Flotilla. Now it's January 1940, and I've sunk about 22,000 tonnes (which I'm proud of with full realism except for external camera and map updates!) having learnt how to reliably torpedo single unescorted targets - mainly small merchants or Passenger/Cargos. But now it's time for a change. I want to get a Type VII and go after some convoys...

I applied for a transfer to 2nd Flotilla at Wilhelmshaven, but I still had my Type IIA and was assigned a BExx patrol grid square. Safe to say this would mean getting through the English Channel if I wanted to even get there with my fuel load, let alone think about getting back. So I reloaded the game to the point where I was still in the 1st, and applied to the 7th/13th. At least then if I had a Type II I would be assigned a North Sea patrol... So now I'm midway through this little cruise, hoping that I'll be offered a Type VII when I get back. Will it be forthcoming???

If not, how can I go about acquiring one of the long range boats without having to restart my career? Any advice? All tips gratefully received! Thanks in advance.

bigboywooly · 05-19-07, 09:21 AM

Save up your renown and buy one

Kingcobra24 · 05-19-07, 09:25 AM

When you go to the "office", do you expect to see a Type VII waiting for you, or do you go to the U-Boat menu (table in the lower right of the office) and see if the type VII is available to you? You don't specify. Also, you don't merely get an upgraded u-boat merely because you transfer, or the game reaches a certain date. You have to have enough renown to 'purchase' the type VII once it becomes available.

1st flotilla
Wilhelmshaven 6/39 to 7/40
Brest 8/40 to 9/44
1939 - IIA, IID
1940 VIIB
1941 to 1944 - VIIC

2nd flotilla
Wilhelmshaven 8/39 to 8/40
Lorient 9/40 to 9/44
1940 - VIIB
1941 - IXB
1942 - IXC and IXC/40
1943 - IXC
1944 - IXC and IXD2

7th flotilla
Kiel 8/39 to 8/40
St. Nazaire 9/40 to 7/44
Bergen 8/44 to 5/45
1939 and 1940 - VIIB
1941 and 1942 - VIIC
1943 - VIIC/41
1944 and 1945 - VIIC/41 and XXI

Brag · 05-19-07, 09:43 AM

I can't remember properly, but I think you need 3,000 renown to move into a type VII.

As explained above you can request transfer and "buy" a type VII. It's a bit hard but with a few patrols you'll have the wherevitals to get command of a new boat--best of luck

Jimbuna · 05-19-07, 09:58 AM

If your using SH3Cmdr why not start the war in 2nd Flotilla you then have the choice of a type VII or a IX

siber · 05-19-07, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

I can't remember properly, but I think you need 3,000 renown to move into a type VII.

As explained above you can request transfer and "buy" a type VII. It's a bit hard but with a few patrols you'll have the wherevitals to get command of a new boat--best of luck

That was what I thought. But if I didn't have enough renown, I should still be able to see the Type VII in the sub upgrade menu with the amount of renown required shouldn't I? It doesn't show the Type VII as an option...

Kingcobra24 · 05-19-07, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

I can't remember properly, but I think you need 3,000 renown to move into a type VII.

As explained above you can request transfer and "buy" a type VII. It's a bit hard but with a few patrols you'll have the wherevitals to get command of a new boat--best of luck

That was what I thought. But if I didn't have enough renown, I should still be able to see the Type VII in the sub upgrade menu with the amount of renown required shouldn't I? It doesn't show the Type VII as an option...

Here are the dates of availability for the various u-boat types. So, if it's March 1940, a u-boat won't show up on the list if it doesn't come out until July, as just one example.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...boat_dates.jpg

siber · 05-23-07, 07:26 AM

Well, I don't know why, but I fixed it. I took another patrol out of Keil, and upon my return the VIIB upgrade was available for 2500 renown. (I had 4900 available, so no problems). So now I've expanded my crew, and am off on longer cruises with more torpedoes. Perhaps I can find some big fish now instead of just small merchants and tramp steamers...

Canovaro · 05-23-07, 07:33 AM

Have a nice patrol!
See you back in a few weeks.

05-19-07, 09:08 AM	#1
siber Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salford, Manchester, UK Posts: 182 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Upgrading boat and flotilla change? Hi all! I've just spend over an hour trying to get the correct combinations of search terms, but cannot find another thread that answers my question. Therefore, I hope that no-one minds my posting up another question for all you experienced Kaleuns out there... For reference, I'm using GWX 1.03 and the standard mods included within. I also launch SH3 with SH3Commander. I've been pootling about the North Sea in my Type IIA since Sept. 1939 in 1st Flotilla. Now it's January 1940, and I've sunk about 22,000 tonnes (which I'm proud of with full realism except for external camera and map updates!) having learnt how to reliably torpedo single unescorted targets - mainly small merchants or Passenger/Cargos. But now it's time for a change. I want to get a Type VII and go after some convoys... I applied for a transfer to 2nd Flotilla at Wilhelmshaven, but I still had my Type IIA and was assigned a BExx patrol grid square. Safe to say this would mean getting through the English Channel if I wanted to even get there with my fuel load, let alone think about getting back. So I reloaded the game to the point where I was still in the 1st, and applied to the 7th/13th. At least then if I had a Type II I would be assigned a North Sea patrol... So now I'm midway through this little cruise, hoping that I'll be offered a Type VII when I get back. Will it be forthcoming??? If not, how can I go about acquiring one of the long range boats without having to restart my career? Any advice? All tips gratefully received! Thanks in advance. Last edited by siber; 05-19-07 at 02:53 PM.

05-19-07, 09:21 AM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Save up your renown and buy one __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

05-19-07, 09:25 AM	#3
Kingcobra24 Soundman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 142 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	When you go to the "office", do you expect to see a Type VII waiting for you, or do you go to the U-Boat menu (table in the lower right of the office) and see if the type VII is available to you? You don't specify. Also, you don't merely get an upgraded u-boat merely because you transfer, or the game reaches a certain date. You have to have enough renown to 'purchase' the type VII once it becomes available. 1st flotilla Wilhelmshaven 6/39 to 7/40 Brest 8/40 to 9/44 1939 - IIA, IID 1940 VIIB 1941 to 1944 - VIIC 2nd flotilla Wilhelmshaven 8/39 to 8/40 Lorient 9/40 to 9/44 1940 - VIIB 1941 - IXB 1942 - IXC and IXC/40 1943 - IXC 1944 - IXC and IXD2 7th flotilla Kiel 8/39 to 8/40 St. Nazaire 9/40 to 7/44 Bergen 8/44 to 5/45 1939 and 1940 - VIIB 1941 and 1942 - VIIC 1943 - VIIC/41 1944 and 1945 - VIIC/41 and XXI __________________

05-19-07, 09:43 AM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I can't remember properly, but I think you need 3,000 renown to move into a type VII. As explained above you can request transfer and "buy" a type VII. It's a bit hard but with a few patrols you'll have the wherevitals to get command of a new boat--best of luck __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-19-07, 09:58 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	If your using SH3Cmdr why not start the war in 2nd Flotilla you then have the choice of a type VII or a IX __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-23-07, 07:26 AM	#8
siber Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salford, Manchester, UK Posts: 182 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Well, I don't know why, but I fixed it. I took another patrol out of Keil, and upon my return the VIIB upgrade was available for 2500 renown. (I had 4900 available, so no problems). So now I've expanded my crew, and am off on longer cruises with more torpedoes. Perhaps I can find some big fish now instead of just small merchants and tramp steamers...

05-23-07, 07:33 AM	#9
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Have a nice patrol! See you back in a few weeks.