Torpedo a PBY?

05-09-07, 01:30 PM

I was just wondering.... since a PBY Catalina is, in fact, a floatplane, it spends a lot of its time in the water. Has anyone ever torpedoed one successfully?

filefool · 05-09-07, 01:37 PM

Nah, GWX doesn't model float planes that start or land in water. IIRC GWX doesn't model any plane starting or landing, they just spawn in the air.

The only way you could torpedo a plane is when you shoot one down and try to shoot a torpedo at it when it hits in the water.
But that wouldn't be feasible wouldn't it?

Lzs von swe · 05-09-07, 01:53 PM

I wonder, would the torp go straight throe without exploding? If you could set it shallow enough

Chock · 05-09-07, 02:09 PM

Good question, if it has collision detection, then I guess you could.

Oh, and technically, a PBY Catalina is a flying boat, not a floatplane. A flying boat has a hull, whereas a floatplane has flotation pontoons which it sits on.

bigboywooly · 05-09-07, 02:57 PM

Someone was working on a floatplane that could sit on the water

Cant remember who though

TarJak · 05-09-07, 06:51 PM

You can DL the stationary sunderland here:

http://www.ebort2.co.uk/

KeptinCranky · 05-09-07, 07:00 PM

Hehe TarJak, I was just thinking that, why not go for a sunderland, they've got to be more tonnage

also they're even nastier than PBYs

hmmm, this gets me wondering

a: did they actually land their planes in mid atlantic, drift around, have a nap, take a leak, and then continue the patrol?

and

b: I know there's some pbys still flying, I'm wondering is there also maybe a sunderland still flying in the world today, that'd be something to see

TarJak · 05-09-07, 09:54 PM

Both the Sunderland and PBY were capable of landing in waves up to around 8 to 10 feet, depending on the wavelength (distance between wave peaks) and the direction of the wind but practically never did it unless it was a dire emgergency like picking up a downed pilot or lack of fuel etc. Their problem would then be getting back into the air in those seas.

Usually they went for nice calm harbour landings and this mod would certainly be good for having a Sunderland or two sitting in Gibraltar or some of the UK harbours. It would be very rare to catch one in the water in open seas but a lot of fun to see what would happen.

No doubt someone will build a mission or something that lets you do it.

bigboywooly · 05-10-07, 04:40 AM

IIRC that Sunderland is designated as a type=0
Patrol boat

Which means it can show where any generic type=0 entries are scripted - and there are plenty

You can change the type= to something that needs scripting to show so it wont appear anywhere else

Brag · 05-10-07, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptinCranky

Hehe TarJak, I was just thinking that, why not go for a sunderland, they've got to be more tonnage

also they're even nastier than PBYs

hmmm, this gets me wondering

a: did they actually land their planes in mid atlantic, drift around, have a nap, take a leak, and then continue the patrol?

and

b: I know there's some pbys still flying, I'm wondering is there also maybe a sunderland still flying in the world today, that'd be something to see

Apparently, some group was rebuilding a Sandringham (later version of Sunderland) in southern England

bigboywooly · 05-10-07, 05:48 AM

I believe there are very few Sunderlands left at all
None flying I know of

Watched a very interesting program a couple of months ago where they tried to raise parts of one sunk at mooring in a storm

Had the early engines of which I think none survive

Chock · 05-10-07, 05:56 AM

Surviving flying boats are a rare thing. The problems with airframe life become massively multiplied when you factor in highly corrosive seawater! I do remember seeing a PBY Catalina at (I think) the Flying Legends show at Duxford a couple of years ago. They were trying to raise funds to restore it. It actually looked in pretty good shape. About the closest you'll find to a flying Sunderland would be the massive Martin 'Mars' flying boats which if I recall correctly are used for fishery and fire fighting operations in North America. An impressive bird if ever there was one, check it out at:

http://www.martinmars.com/

05-10-07, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chock

Oh, and technically, a PBY Catalina is a flying boat, not a floatplane. A flying boat has a hull, whereas a floatplane has flotation pontoons which it sits on.

Same Idea. Its a plane that can land on water or a boat that can fly. Either way.

Kaleun Volk · 05-12-07, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chock

Good question, if it has collision detection, then I guess you could.

Oh, and technically, a PBY Catalina is a flying boat, not a floatplane. A flying boat has a hull, whereas a floatplane has flotation pontoons which it sits on.

Aircraft have collision (i found out the hard way

). had a Hawker Hurricane crach into u-105. she lies at the bottom today.

Kptlt. Siegmann · 05-12-07, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaleun Volk

Aircraft have collision (i found out the hard way

). had a Hawker Hurricane crach into u-105. she lies at the bottom today.

Kamikaze Hurricane pilot?

05-09-07, 01:30 PM	#1
Zuko Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Torpedo a PBY? I was just wondering.... since a PBY Catalina is, in fact, a floatplane, it spends a lot of its time in the water. Has anyone ever torpedoed one successfully?

05-09-07, 01:37 PM	#2
filefool Loader Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austria. Far away from any port or shore. Posts: 87 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nah, GWX doesn't model float planes that start or land in water. IIRC GWX doesn't model any plane starting or landing, they just spawn in the air. The only way you could torpedo a plane is when you shoot one down and try to shoot a torpedo at it when it hits in the water. But that wouldn't be feasible wouldn't it? __________________

05-09-07, 01:53 PM	#3
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	I wonder, would the torp go straight throe without exploding? If you could set it shallow enough __________________

05-09-07, 02:57 PM	#5
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Someone was working on a floatplane that could sit on the water Cant remember who though __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

05-10-07, 04:40 AM	#9
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	IIRC that Sunderland is designated as a type=0 Patrol boat Which means it can show where any generic type=0 entries are scripted - and there are plenty You can change the type= to something that needs scripting to show so it wont appear anywhere else __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

05-09-07, 02:09 PM	#4
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Good question, if it has collision detection, then I guess you could. Oh, and technically, a PBY Catalina is a flying boat, not a floatplane. A flying boat has a hull, whereas a floatplane has flotation pontoons which it sits on.

05-09-07, 06:51 PM	#6
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	You can DL the stationary sunderland here: http://www.ebort2.co.uk/

05-09-07, 07:00 PM	#7
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Hehe TarJak, I was just thinking that, why not go for a sunderland, they've got to be more tonnage also they're even nastier than PBYs hmmm, this gets me wondering a: did they actually land their planes in mid atlantic, drift around, have a nap, take a leak, and then continue the patrol? and b: I know there's some pbys still flying, I'm wondering is there also maybe a sunderland still flying in the world today, that'd be something to see

05-09-07, 09:54 PM	#8
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Both the Sunderland and PBY were capable of landing in waves up to around 8 to 10 feet, depending on the wavelength (distance between wave peaks) and the direction of the wind but practically never did it unless it was a dire emgergency like picking up a downed pilot or lack of fuel etc. Their problem would then be getting back into the air in those seas. Usually they went for nice calm harbour landings and this mod would certainly be good for having a Sunderland or two sitting in Gibraltar or some of the UK harbours. It would be very rare to catch one in the water in open seas but a lot of fun to see what would happen. No doubt someone will build a mission or something that lets you do it.

05-10-07, 05:48 AM	#11
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I believe there are very few Sunderlands left at all None flying I know of Watched a very interesting program a couple of months ago where they tried to raise parts of one sunk at mooring in a storm Had the early engines of which I think none survive __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

05-10-07, 05:56 AM	#12
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Surviving flying boats are a rare thing. The problems with airframe life become massively multiplied when you factor in highly corrosive seawater! I do remember seeing a PBY Catalina at (I think) the Flying Legends show at Duxford a couple of years ago. They were trying to raise funds to restore it. It actually looked in pretty good shape. About the closest you'll find to a flying Sunderland would be the massive Martin 'Mars' flying boats which if I recall correctly are used for fishery and fire fighting operations in North America. An impressive bird if ever there was one, check it out at: http://www.martinmars.com/ Last edited by Chock; 05-10-07 at 03:10 PM.