Tired of the negativity, reality check time

hmatthias · 03-20-07, 01:13 PM

As an avid gamer, I often "hit the forums" around the release of a game that I am anticipating. It is always the same story once a game releases. There are a few people complaining about bugs, loudly, while the majority of folks are either working around the bugs and happily enjoying the game. I have the game, just haven't had a chance to play yet, and I am expecting bugs. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life. Silent Hunter III had some goofy bugs and other things (I remember hitting a large merchant with one torpedo, and it blowing up and splitting in two. Thought that was a little strange). Unfortunatly in this industry, QA is sometimes neglected, and we end up here. We will get a patch, and probably another patch, and some great modders will crank out some fun mods to fix sounds and such.

For all of you that play GWX in Silent Hunter III, remove the mod and just play Silent Hunter III, even at 1.4b. It is comical how less emersive it is. Remember, this game was generated to make revenue, and appeal to the casual gamer. Mods help it become more realistic and less "cartoon like"

Just my 2 cents

longdog499 · 03-20-07, 01:17 PM

Well said!!!

Onkel Neal · 03-20-07, 01:20 PM

Well said!

Stick around, we need a cool head like you around to help these ladies get through this trying time in their life.

lord bame · 03-20-07, 01:21 PM

when i buy a new BMW or LCD tv im expecting bugs, engine failure, black screen. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life

properly.:hmm:

DaMaGe007 · 03-20-07, 01:21 PM

Bear in mind the people are discussing thier percieved failings of the game and the negitivity is somthing you apply to thier post. It can seem alot worse than it is.

Yes there are some upset people, but there are also alot of people who's emotions you may be misinterpreting.

Carefull not to paint them all with the same brush.

FIREWALL · 03-20-07, 01:21 PM

Valuable 2 cents

Snakeeyes · 03-20-07, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmatthias

As an avid gamer, I often "hit the forums" around the release of a game that I am anticipating. It is always the same story once a game releases. There are a few people complaining about bugs, loudly, while the majority of folks are either working around the bugs and happily enjoying the game. I have the game, just haven't had a chance to play yet, and I am expecting bugs. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life. Silent Hunter III had some goofy bugs and other things (I remember hitting a large merchant with one torpedo, and it blowing up and splitting in two. Thought that was a little strange). Unfortunatly in this industry, QA is sometimes neglected, and we end up here. We will get a patch, and probably another patch, and some great modders will crank out some fun mods to fix sounds and such.

For all of you that play GWX in Silent Hunter III, remove the mod and just play Silent Hunter III, even at 1.4b. It is comical how less emersive it is. Remember, this game was generated to make revenue, and appeal to the casual gamer. Mods help it become more realistic and less "cartoon like"

Just my 2 cents

Amen. I've been putting off GWX until SHIV came out just in case... well... the unthinkable happened (kind of like the USAF being worried about the F117 NOT working as advertised and developing the F-15E as a backup).

I think I'll test out vanilla SHIV in all its buggy glory when it arrives tomorrow and then go nuts with GWX. I know... I know... I SHOULD have tried out GWX when it came out but I wanted to keep it in reserve. Glad I did!

Spaxspore · 03-20-07, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

Bear in mind the people are discussing thier percieved failings of the game and the negitivity is somthing you apply to thier post. It can seem alot worse than it is.

Yes there are some upset people, but there are also alot of people who's emotions you may be misinterpreting.

Carefull not to paint them all with the same brush.

2 man issues ive seen and experiance

1.Major Graphic glitchin in crew members

2. Major Sound Issues

Other then that i love it

SteamWake · 03-20-07, 01:29 PM

Good post but......

Unfortunatly this "attitude" is nothing new.

I have seen it at the release of virtually every new title including SH3. The forums for the game "Oblivion" were a rioutus affair with at least a dozen locks a day. It took them nearly 6 months to calm down.

For some reason or another some people get some sort of gratification out of being negative and attempting to raise a few hackles. In some ways its a reflection on current culture as a whole. It is after all the "me" generation.

I think with all things considered the general community here at SubSim are a much more level headed group.

My advice when reading any thread is to consider the source.

hmatthias · 03-20-07, 01:45 PM

Well, the "quality" attitude is changing a bit in business enterprise software, so we can only hope it carries over into gaming software. Unfortunatly, the Silent Hunter series really has no direct competition, so that makes it hard for a company to get motivated to do extensive testing. Testing = time that the game is not on the shelves, being bought...

malkuth74 · 03-20-07, 01:46 PM

I agree. But be ready to be called a Fanboy. :rotfl:

AVGWarhawk · 03-20-07, 01:50 PM

The point is other games and not just the SH series have had issues and need patches. Modders corrected and created things. I have no worries here at all. Not after what I have seen the modders do in SH3. These guys absolutely rock

and I believe these guys will make this game rock just as hard if not harder than SH3. Once they dig into books and films that overwhelming desire to correct the game and make it as real as it gets....these guys got it.

I'm grabbing my copy tomorrow and sailing the Pacific. After that, I head to the mod forum and see what the fellas have brewing

Shipwreck · 03-20-07, 01:54 PM

rgr that bro, just like SHIII first came out. A lot of of cry babys.

SW

Sgian Dubh · 03-20-07, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well said!

Stick around, we need a cool head like you around to help these ladies get through this trying time in their life.

:rotfl:

I'll just put some water on to boil for ya, Onkal Neal!

malkuth74 · 03-20-07, 02:15 PM

Hi I don't have the game yet. But it sucks so I'm not buying it.

JK. :rotfl:

I bet you mods, that are use to release weeks, have gotten use to it by now. But I don't rember SHIII being this Slammed before it even came out. Hats off to Mods for having to deal with it. Gives me a Headach just looking at it.

03-20-07, 01:13 PM	#1
hmatthias Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 82 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tired of the negativity, reality check time As an avid gamer, I often "hit the forums" around the release of a game that I am anticipating. It is always the same story once a game releases. There are a few people complaining about bugs, loudly, while the majority of folks are either working around the bugs and happily enjoying the game. I have the game, just haven't had a chance to play yet, and I am expecting bugs. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life. Silent Hunter III had some goofy bugs and other things (I remember hitting a large merchant with one torpedo, and it blowing up and splitting in two. Thought that was a little strange). Unfortunatly in this industry, QA is sometimes neglected, and we end up here. We will get a patch, and probably another patch, and some great modders will crank out some fun mods to fix sounds and such. For all of you that play GWX in Silent Hunter III, remove the mod and just play Silent Hunter III, even at 1.4b. It is comical how less emersive it is. Remember, this game was generated to make revenue, and appeal to the casual gamer. Mods help it become more realistic and less "cartoon like" Just my 2 cents

03-20-07, 01:21 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Valuable 2 cents __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

03-20-07, 01:46 PM	#11
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I agree. But be ready to be called a Fanboy. :rotfl: __________________

03-20-07, 01:50 PM	#12
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,271 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The point is other games and not just the SH series have had issues and need patches. Modders corrected and created things. I have no worries here at all. Not after what I have seen the modders do in SH3. These guys absolutely rock and I believe these guys will make this game rock just as hard if not harder than SH3. Once they dig into books and films that overwhelming desire to correct the game and make it as real as it gets....these guys got it. I'm grabbing my copy tomorrow and sailing the Pacific. After that, I head to the mod forum and see what the fellas have brewing __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-20-07, 02:15 PM	#15
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Hi I don't have the game yet. But it sucks so I'm not buying it. JK. :rotfl: I bet you mods, that are use to release weeks, have gotten use to it by now. But I don't rember SHIII being this Slammed before it even came out. Hats off to Mods for having to deal with it. Gives me a Headach just looking at it. __________________

03-20-07, 01:17 PM	#2
longdog499 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wales U.K. Posts: 119 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Well said!!!

03-20-07, 01:20 PM	#3
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Well said! Stick around, we need a cool head like you around to help these ladies get through this trying time in their life.

03-20-07, 01:21 PM	#4
lord bame Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: sweden Posts: 14 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	when i buy a new BMW or LCD tv im expecting bugs, engine failure, black screen. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life properly.:hmm:

03-20-07, 01:21 PM	#5
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bear in mind the people are discussing thier percieved failings of the game and the negitivity is somthing you apply to thier post. It can seem alot worse than it is. Yes there are some upset people, but there are also alot of people who's emotions you may be misinterpreting. Carefull not to paint them all with the same brush.

03-20-07, 01:29 PM	#9
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Good post but...... Unfortunatly this "attitude" is nothing new. I have seen it at the release of virtually every new title including SH3. The forums for the game "Oblivion" were a rioutus affair with at least a dozen locks a day. It took them nearly 6 months to calm down. For some reason or another some people get some sort of gratification out of being negative and attempting to raise a few hackles. In some ways its a reflection on current culture as a whole. It is after all the "me" generation. I think with all things considered the general community here at SubSim are a much more level headed group. My advice when reading any thread is to consider the source.

03-20-07, 01:45 PM	#10
hmatthias Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 82 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, the "quality" attitude is changing a bit in business enterprise software, so we can only hope it carries over into gaming software. Unfortunatly, the Silent Hunter series really has no direct competition, so that makes it hard for a company to get motivated to do extensive testing. Testing = time that the game is not on the shelves, being bought...

03-20-07, 01:54 PM	#13
Shipwreck Loader Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: on the far side of society Posts: 84 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	rgr that bro, just like SHIII first came out. A lot of of cry babys. SW