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hmatthias 03-20-07 01:13 PM

Tired of the negativity, reality check time
 
As an avid gamer, I often "hit the forums" around the release of a game that I am anticipating. It is always the same story once a game releases. There are a few people complaining about bugs, loudly, while the majority of folks are either working around the bugs and happily enjoying the game. I have the game, just haven't had a chance to play yet, and I am expecting bugs. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life. Silent Hunter III had some goofy bugs and other things (I remember hitting a large merchant with one torpedo, and it blowing up and splitting in two. Thought that was a little strange). Unfortunatly in this industry, QA is sometimes neglected, and we end up here. We will get a patch, and probably another patch, and some great modders will crank out some fun mods to fix sounds and such.

For all of you that play GWX in Silent Hunter III, remove the mod and just play Silent Hunter III, even at 1.4b. It is comical how less emersive it is. Remember, this game was generated to make revenue, and appeal to the casual gamer. Mods help it become more realistic and less "cartoon like"

Just my 2 cents

longdog499 03-20-07 01:17 PM

Well said!!!:yep:

Onkel Neal 03-20-07 01:20 PM

Well said!

Stick around, we need a cool head like you around to help these ladies get through this trying time in their life. :ping:

lord bame 03-20-07 01:21 PM

when i buy a new BMW or LCD tv im expecting bugs, engine failure, black screen. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life

properly.:hmm:

DaMaGe007 03-20-07 01:21 PM

Bear in mind the people are discussing thier percieved failings of the game and the negitivity is somthing you apply to thier post. It can seem alot worse than it is.

Yes there are some upset people, but there are also alot of people who's emotions you may be misinterpreting.

Carefull not to paint them all with the same brush.

FIREWALL 03-20-07 01:21 PM

Valuable 2 cents :up:

Snakeeyes 03-20-07 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmatthias
As an avid gamer, I often "hit the forums" around the release of a game that I am anticipating. It is always the same story once a game releases. There are a few people complaining about bugs, loudly, while the majority of folks are either working around the bugs and happily enjoying the game. I have the game, just haven't had a chance to play yet, and I am expecting bugs. It sucks, yes, but it is a fact of life. Silent Hunter III had some goofy bugs and other things (I remember hitting a large merchant with one torpedo, and it blowing up and splitting in two. Thought that was a little strange). Unfortunatly in this industry, QA is sometimes neglected, and we end up here. We will get a patch, and probably another patch, and some great modders will crank out some fun mods to fix sounds and such.

For all of you that play GWX in Silent Hunter III, remove the mod and just play Silent Hunter III, even at 1.4b. It is comical how less emersive it is. Remember, this game was generated to make revenue, and appeal to the casual gamer. Mods help it become more realistic and less "cartoon like"

Just my 2 cents

Amen. I've been putting off GWX until SHIV came out just in case... well... the unthinkable happened (kind of like the USAF being worried about the F117 NOT working as advertised and developing the F-15E as a backup).

I think I'll test out vanilla SHIV in all its buggy glory when it arrives tomorrow and then go nuts with GWX. I know... I know... I SHOULD have tried out GWX when it came out but I wanted to keep it in reserve. Glad I did!

Spaxspore 03-20-07 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007
Bear in mind the people are discussing thier percieved failings of the game and the negitivity is somthing you apply to thier post. It can seem alot worse than it is.

Yes there are some upset people, but there are also alot of people who's emotions you may be misinterpreting.

Carefull not to paint them all with the same brush.

2 man issues ive seen and experiance

1.Major Graphic glitchin in crew members

2. Major Sound Issues

Other then that i love it

SteamWake 03-20-07 01:29 PM

Good post but......

Unfortunatly this "attitude" is nothing new.

I have seen it at the release of virtually every new title including SH3. The forums for the game "Oblivion" were a rioutus affair with at least a dozen locks a day. It took them nearly 6 months to calm down.

For some reason or another some people get some sort of gratification out of being negative and attempting to raise a few hackles. In some ways its a reflection on current culture as a whole. It is after all the "me" generation.

I think with all things considered the general community here at SubSim are a much more level headed group.

My advice when reading any thread is to consider the source.

hmatthias 03-20-07 01:45 PM

Well, the "quality" attitude is changing a bit in business enterprise software, so we can only hope it carries over into gaming software. Unfortunatly, the Silent Hunter series really has no direct competition, so that makes it hard for a company to get motivated to do extensive testing. Testing = time that the game is not on the shelves, being bought...

malkuth74 03-20-07 01:46 PM

:gulp:

I agree. But be ready to be called a Fanboy. :rotfl:

AVGWarhawk 03-20-07 01:50 PM

The point is other games and not just the SH series have had issues and need patches. Modders corrected and created things. I have no worries here at all. Not after what I have seen the modders do in SH3. These guys absolutely rock:rock::rock: and I believe these guys will make this game rock just as hard if not harder than SH3. Once they dig into books and films that overwhelming desire to correct the game and make it as real as it gets....these guys got it.:yep: I'm grabbing my copy tomorrow and sailing the Pacific. After that, I head to the mod forum and see what the fellas have brewing:up:

Shipwreck 03-20-07 01:54 PM

:up: rgr that bro, just like SHIII first came out. A lot of of cry babys.

SW

Sgian Dubh 03-20-07 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
Well said!

Stick around, we need a cool head like you around to help these ladies get through this trying time in their life. :ping:


:rotfl:

I'll just put some water on to boil for ya, Onkal Neal! :D

malkuth74 03-20-07 02:15 PM

Hi I don't have the game yet. But it sucks so I'm not buying it. :damn:

JK. :rotfl: :doh: :huh: :oops:

I bet you mods, that are use to release weeks, have gotten use to it by now. But I don't rember SHIII being this Slammed before it even came out. Hats off to Mods for having to deal with it. Gives me a Headach just looking at it. :|\\


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