Well that sttles that.

[Aimbot]

In a Military Channel special that ranked the top ten military submarines the VII took #1 and the nine never even surfaced. So you IXers can kiss my stern. :p

[High Voltage]

Heh, just saw the same thing but didn't want to swat the hive and wake up its residents...

[Aimbot]

Please, if you want to excape the wrath of a IXer all you have to do is sidestep once every ten minutes.

[Spray]

IXB was counted msot succesful sub on the German side in all of WW2. The AK-47 is rated in the top 10 guns of the world but could easily be beat by some other guns F2000 L8 etc.

Originally Posted by Spray

IXB was counted msot succesful sub on the German side in all of WW2. The AK-47 is rated in the top 10 guns of the world but could easily be beat by some other guns F2000 L8 etc.

Usually its not the gun the really counts though its usually whos bullet hits first :p

[Ducimus]

Well apparently they also said the Gato has 10 bow tubes or some such rott? Suuuureee.


I personaly think the type9 uboat fandom isn't so much the boat, but how a career game ends up being played out in one vs the other.

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Originally Posted by Spray

IXB was counted msot succesful sub on the German side in all of WW2. The AK-47 is rated in the top 10 guns of the world but could easily be beat by some other guns F2000 L8 etc.

The most succesful German submarine of WW2 was U-48, a VIIb type. That's a fact.

[Spray]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Kozloff

The most succesful German submarine of WW2 was U-48, a VIIb type. That's a fact.

The most succesful class was the IXB and thats a fact . VII's there is no point arguing and If I said that the Flower Corvette was the most powerfull DD yes DD of WW2 on TV you would beleive me?

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Originally Posted by Spray

The most succesful class was the IXB and thats a fact . VII's there is no point arguing and If I said that the Flower Corvette was the most powerfull DD yes DD of WW2 on TV you would beleive me?

Oh boy,
Stop blabbing and check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterseeboot_48_%281939%29
Statistics matey!

[Letum]

The VII is the best U-Boat in the same way that the AK47 is the best gun.

There are better boats/guns in terms of performance. In most conditions the IX performs better than the VII.

What makes the VII and the AK47 the best is the way they have become iconic.
Ask people to draw a famous rifle and they will draw a AK47, ask them to draw a famous sub and they will draw something that looks like a VII, even if they have never heard of a VIIC. (ok, so many people will draw the Beetle's sub, but the VII will be a close second )

That is why the VII got #1.

[Spray]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Kozloff

Oh boy,
Stop blabbing and check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterseeboot_48_%281939%29
Statistics matey!

You linked 1 boat now just find the statistics for all the other IIB's compare them to the IXB's and tell me what you find out. Also using wikipedia to back up an argument is a bad idea wikipedia is a open sourced information center anyone can write anything that they want about it. So NEXT time read the full post. Oh and heres my backup. http://uboat.net/types/index.html

Would you look at that IXB most victorious IIC workhorse IIB awww nothing. And unlike wiki this is a good source which contains captains logs etc. Now next time promise me you will look up the facts arguing yours before you go ahead and make yourself look like a fool. Ive been around discussion forums quite a bit mostly bf2s.com Debate and Serious Talk section. So I do know what im talking about.... most of the time , and this is that most of the time.

Quoted from U-boat.net


"Type IXB was an improved version of type IX with increased range of 1500 nautical miles and slightly heavier. The designed was improved again in the IXC type.
This type was the most successful overall with each boat averaging over 100,000 tons of sinking. They had 23 torpedoes stored which gave a determined U-boat commander a serious striking power which could be used night after night against the same convoy, as was often the case.
Perhaps the most famous IXB boat was the U-123 under the command of Kptlt. Hardegen which opened up the attack in the US waters in early 1942 known as Operation Drumbeat. U-107, under the command of Hessler, made the most successful convoy mission of the war over with close to 100,000 tons sunk out of Freetown, Africa."

[AVGWarhawk]

The best boats were the ones that made it home

[Brag]

Hahahahaha! The residents woke up What next, line up a bunch of VIIs on one side and a few IXs on the other and start shooting torpedoes on each other?

I, for one, gonna go out in my sumbie and sink some Tommies. When I come back, things should be quiet and I'll play dominoes and drink cognac with Thompsen.

[Spray]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The best boats were the ones that made it home

HAHA too true. Even while I don't exactly get why we are arguing about a point on which people surely wont change their minds about what did annoy me was the amount of arrogance one of the members showed then when one totally ignored what I wrote in my post. My true decision is im a IXB captain but it comes down to the skill of the captain. You could have a IIA vs the Kursk as long as the IIA had a excellent captain it would beat the Kursk if it had a crap captain. If the Kursk had a good captain may god help all those stuck in the tin can called the IIA. Ending statemant, without a good captain your as good as dead anyway.

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Originally Posted by Spray

You linked 1 boat now just find the statistics for all the other IIB's compare them to the IXB's and tell me what you find out. Also using wikipedia to back up an argument is a bad idea wikipedia is a open sourced information center anyone can write anything that they want about it. So NEXT time read the full post. Oh and heres my backup. http://uboat.net/types/index.html

Would you look at that IXB most victorious IIC workhorse IIB awww nothing. And unlike wiki this is a good source which contains captains logs etc. Now next time promise me you will look up the facts arguing yours before you go ahead and make yourself look like a fool. Ive been around discussion forums quite a bit mostly bf2s.com Debate and Serious Talk section. So I do know what im talking about.... most of the time , and this is that most of the time.

Quoted from U-boat.net


"Type IXB was an improved version of type IX with increased range of 1500 nautical miles and slightly heavier. The designed was improved again in the IXC type.
This type was the most successful overall with each boat averaging over 100,000 tons of sinking. They had 23 torpedoes stored which gave a determined U-boat commander a serious striking power which could be used night after night against the same convoy, as was often the case.
Perhaps the most famous IXB boat was the U-123 under the command of Kptlt. Hardegen which opened up the attack in the US waters in early 1942 known as Operation Drumbeat. U-107, under the command of Hessler, made the most successful convoy mission of the war over with close to 100,000 tons sunk out of Freetown, Africa."

First of all, i quoted Wikipedia because it's an open source and easily revisable. The link was to U-48 which is presented very scrupulously in the Wiki. Second, i've done that to show you why the VII type boat was voted No1 in that TV show. It's because of it iconic value. U-48 was the most single succesful u-boat in the WW2 and that's where this iconic status derives from. As well as VII type commanders were the best known. That's all there is.
And yes i know www.uboat.net, a brilliant site, but the information in this case was better put in the Wiki.
You take it way too personally mate.
For the record i linked the statistic with a VIIb boat not IIb.
Oh, and about reading the full post, it's not about combat capabilities of certain subs, because how to compare IX type to Typhoon class? Ergo, i don't think you understood the subject of this thread.