Visual in GWX

NiKuTa · 03-01-07, 08:18 AM

From first day of usage GWX mod I have some strange impression that AI (destoryers, merchants) have too good eyes. Visual in GWX is too goot for AI. I had good example today. My crew on tower say "Visual contact ..." and I have been hit in same moment. My crew have 100 %eEfficiency. Screen:

In GWX is very hart to follow a ships. They look out you very often, but i see them very slightly. In night is very hard to enter in to enemy convoy. When is fog enemy see you when you see them

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Dowly · 03-01-07, 08:53 AM

I think it has been covered in the manual. The ship´s spotter is higher than you, so he can see more over the horizon than you can, also the ship´s spotter has better binocs than you.

NiKuTa · 03-01-07, 09:20 AM

Oki but the Uboat was very small and hard to spot. Uboat dont smoke. Ubout should spot enemy before enemy spot Uboat.

Dowly · 03-01-07, 09:40 AM

That´s why the spotters knew what they were doing. On a sunny day, the wake of a uboat & the bow wakes etc. reflected the sun like a mirror.

difool2 · 03-01-07, 11:22 AM

Check this thread out: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104681

Keep in mind that it is a definite work in progress.

ref · 03-01-07, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NiKuTa

Oki but the Uboat was very small...

Everyone keeps saying that the U-boats are small, they aren't small, they are smaller than a ship, we're talking of a rectangle of about 1 meter high with a 4 meters tower protruding from the middle and 70+ meters in the case of the IXC...
Sure they were harder to spot than a ship, but they weren't invisible, add to that the wake produced by it to keep pace with the convoy and you increase the chance to be spotted.

Here in Mar del Plata is based the submarine force of my country, In the 70s/80s we still had a couple of operational Balao class subs, and I remember spotting them leaving port on a clear day and calm sea from a distance of at least 3 km with my naked eyes, they are larger than the german subs, but not that much.

Ref

Steppenwolf · 03-01-07, 11:35 AM

Also, don't forget that in GWX, you can run with "decks awash" when stalking/attacking a ship/convoy.

In a type VII, ( which usually runs at a depth of 5 meters when surfaced ). If you set the depth to 6 meters you will run with decks slightly awash. Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 82% of normal, but you will be harder to see and can still man the deck gun. You can also set the depth to 7 meters to run with the decks heavily awash (pretty much just the conning tower out of the water). Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 75% of normal, but you are even more difficult to spot.

Ducimus · 03-01-07, 12:40 PM

NiKuTa,

As a rule of thumb (you'll just have to trust me on this), do not surface during daylight ANYWHERE within 30KM of ANY enemy unit, on a day that is both Clear of fog , and calm in wind. If the waters are flat, and the sky is cloudless without a drop of rain - dive.

03-01-07, 08:18 AM	#1
NiKuTa Ensign Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 226 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Visual in GWX From first day of usage GWX mod I have some strange impression that AI (destoryers, merchants) have too good eyes. Visual in GWX is too goot for AI. I had good example today. My crew on tower say "Visual contact ..." and I have been hit in same moment. My crew have 100 %eEfficiency. Screen: In GWX is very hart to follow a ships. They look out you very often, but i see them very slightly. In night is very hard to enter in to enemy convoy. When is fog enemy see you when you see them . __________________ http://serek.one.pl/~nikuta/SH/Perso...%20NiKuTa.html

03-01-07, 09:20 AM	#3
NiKuTa Ensign Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 226 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Oki but the Uboat was very small and hard to spot. Uboat dont smoke. Ubout should spot enemy before enemy spot Uboat. __________________ http://serek.one.pl/~nikuta/SH/Perso...%20NiKuTa.html Last edited by NiKuTa; 03-01-07 at 09:43 AM.

03-01-07, 08:53 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I think it has been covered in the manual. The ship´s spotter is higher than you, so he can see more over the horizon than you can, also the ship´s spotter has better binocs than you.

03-01-07, 09:40 AM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	That´s why the spotters knew what they were doing. On a sunny day, the wake of a uboat & the bow wakes etc. reflected the sun like a mirror.

03-01-07, 11:22 AM	#5
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Check this thread out: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104681 Keep in mind that it is a definite work in progress.

03-01-07, 11:35 AM	#7
Steppenwolf 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Also, don't forget that in GWX, you can run with "decks awash" when stalking/attacking a ship/convoy. In a type VII, ( which usually runs at a depth of 5 meters when surfaced ). If you set the depth to 6 meters you will run with decks slightly awash. Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 82% of normal, but you will be harder to see and can still man the deck gun. You can also set the depth to 7 meters to run with the decks heavily awash (pretty much just the conning tower out of the water). Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 75% of normal, but you are even more difficult to spot.

03-01-07, 12:40 PM	#8
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	NiKuTa, As a rule of thumb (you'll just have to trust me on this), do not surface during daylight ANYWHERE within 30KM of ANY enemy unit, on a day that is both Clear of fog , and calm in wind. If the waters are flat, and the sky is cloudless without a drop of rain - dive.