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NiKuTa 03-01-07 08:18 AM

Visual in GWX
 
From first day of usage GWX mod I have some strange impression that AI (destoryers, merchants) have too good eyes. Visual in GWX is too goot for AI. I had good example today. My crew on tower say "Visual contact ..." and I have been hit in same moment. My crew have 100 %eEfficiency. Screen:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8...4815593wo8.jpg

In GWX is very hart to follow a ships. They look out you very often, but i see them very slightly. In night is very hard to enter in to enemy convoy. When is fog enemy see you when you see them :(.

Dowly 03-01-07 08:53 AM

I think it has been covered in the manual. The ship´s spotter is higher than you, so he can see more over the horizon than you can, also the ship´s spotter has better binocs than you. :up:

NiKuTa 03-01-07 09:20 AM

Oki but the Uboat was very small and hard to spot. Uboat dont smoke. Ubout should spot enemy before enemy spot Uboat.

Dowly 03-01-07 09:40 AM

That´s why the spotters knew what they were doing. On a sunny day, the wake of a uboat & the bow wakes etc. reflected the sun like a mirror.

difool2 03-01-07 11:22 AM

Check this thread out: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104681

Keep in mind that it is a definite work in progress.

ref 03-01-07 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiKuTa
Oki but the Uboat was very small...

Everyone keeps saying that the U-boats are small, they aren't small, they are smaller than a ship, we're talking of a rectangle of about 1 meter high with a 4 meters tower protruding from the middle and 70+ meters in the case of the IXC...
Sure they were harder to spot than a ship, but they weren't invisible, add to that the wake produced by it to keep pace with the convoy and you increase the chance to be spotted.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3476/viictr0.jpg


http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8727/ixcpx1.jpg

Here in Mar del Plata is based the submarine force of my country, In the 70s/80s we still had a couple of operational Balao class subs, and I remember spotting them leaving port on a clear day and calm sea from a distance of at least 3 km with my naked eyes, they are larger than the german subs, but not that much.

Ref

Steppenwolf 03-01-07 11:35 AM

Also, don't forget that in GWX, you can run with "decks awash" when stalking/attacking a ship/convoy.

In a type VII, ( which usually runs at a depth of 5 meters when surfaced ). If you set the depth to 6 meters you will run with decks slightly awash. Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 82% of normal, but you will be harder to see and can still man the deck gun. You can also set the depth to 7 meters to run with the decks heavily awash (pretty much just the conning tower out of the water). Your speed and fuel efficiency will drop to about 75% of normal, but you are even more difficult to spot.

Ducimus 03-01-07 12:40 PM

NiKuTa,

As a rule of thumb (you'll just have to trust me on this), do not surface during daylight ANYWHERE within 30KM of ANY enemy unit, on a day that is both Clear of fog , and calm in wind. If the waters are flat, and the sky is cloudless without a drop of rain - dive.


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