GW Kapselgeblase

danurve · 01-29-07, 10:10 PM

After completing the 8th. patrol with U-49 (type VIIB) I see I can upgrade the engines with a type of shaft driven supercharger.
A search revealed this information in a post;

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Name0=GWKapselgeblase
SpeedBoost0=1.1

Name1=MANBuchigeblase
SpeedBoost1=1.2

While that seems well and fine Im puzzled by what this upgrade will do to range / fuel-consumption (game mechanics). So, for you all that have used this upgrade whats your take? Seems like a logical upgrade but it never hurts to ask.
Thanx!

Iron Budokan · 01-29-07, 10:43 PM

You can go faster which helps evading some escorts on the surface and catching up to convoys. Of course, there's a trade off, the faster you go the more fuel you burn.

It's a good upgrade; go for it. You won't be disappointed.

hyperion2206 · 01-30-07, 07:41 AM

I wouldn't take it for two reasons.
1. You burn a lot more fuel, because all your speed settings are higher.
2. To my knowledge U-Boats didn't have such things; I've read a lot of books about U-Boats and neither the GW Kapselgebläse nor the MAN Buchigebläse were ever mentioned.

Brag · 01-30-07, 08:00 AM

It has worked very well for me. For ordering speeds for cruising, I order it in knots instead of using the engine telegraph. It is a good, tangible improvement on the boat.

_Seth_ · 01-30-07, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206

2. To my knowledge U-Boats didn't have such things; I've read a lot of books about U-Boats and neither the GW Kapselgebläse nor the MAN Buchigebläse were ever mentioned.

SUPERCHARGERS.

Two “Kapselgebläse” – positive displacement type. Pressure regulating

- 3 - US SECRET - BRITISH MOST SECRET

REPORT ON THE

INTERROGATION OF SURVIVORS FROM U-118

SUNK ON 12 JUNE 1943

Read it all here: http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-118INT.htm

hyperion2206 · 01-30-07, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by _Seth_

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperion2206

2. To my knowledge U-Boats didn't have such things; I've read a lot of books about U-Boats and neither the GW Kapselgebläse nor the MAN Buchigebläse were ever mentioned.

SUPERCHARGERS.

Two “Kapselgebläse” – positive displacement type. Pressure regulating

- 3 - US SECRET - BRITISH MOST SECRET

REPORT ON THE

INTERROGATION OF SURVIVORS FROM U-118

SUNK ON 12 JUNE 1943

Read it all here: http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-118INT.htm

Thanks Seth, didn't know that.

But when I have a look at her max. speed of about 15 knots the superchargers did not help her a lot.:p
Anyway, I'm not going to use that stuff, I'm oldschool!:p:rotfl:

Jimbuna · 01-30-07, 09:12 AM

IIRC Sailor Steve undertook some research on sub engines and concluded that the original engine/equipment was closer to what they had in reality :hmm:

mookiemookie · 01-30-07, 09:22 AM

Yes. The engines came with the superchargers already installed, and so the un-upgraded max speed in SH3 is what the real life boats could do with the supercharged engines. I never take them, precisely for this reason.

Sailor Steve · 01-30-07, 12:48 PM

II and VIIa didn't have them. VIIb and all later boats came with them. Max speeds for all boats are shown here: http://www.uboat.net/types/index.html

danurve · 01-30-07, 01:53 PM

Interesting posts & links.

Superchargers also seem like a love/hate option with some players. So if by accuracy the VIIB's engines came with Kapselgeblase then why would the game make it an upgrade option unless it's just something to chew renown. :hmm:

Jimbuna · 01-30-07, 02:17 PM

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Yes. The engines came with the superchargers already installed, and so the un-upgraded max speed in SH3 is what the real life boats could do with the supercharged engines. I never take them, precisely for this reason.

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II and VIIa didn't have them. VIIb and all later boats came with them. Max speeds for all boats are shown here: http://www.uboat.net/types/index.html

Thanks guys

johan_d · 01-30-07, 02:26 PM

Then it should be modded, so that with the addon you have for example 1 knot more speed?

bigboywooly · 01-30-07, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by johan_d

Then it should be modded, so that with the addon you have for example 1 knot more speed?

It should be modelled that without the addon you have less speed

Jimbuna · 01-30-07, 02:40 PM

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Then it should be modded, so that with the addon you have for example 1 knot more speed?

Then it becomes unrealistic

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It should be modelled that without the addon you have less speed

Precisely

johan_d · 01-30-07, 02:43 PM

Well, thats what I ment, 1 knot more with it, and obviously without 1 knot less..

01-29-07, 10:43 PM	#2
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	You can go faster which helps evading some escorts on the surface and catching up to convoys. Of course, there's a trade off, the faster you go the more fuel you burn. It's a good upgrade; go for it. You won't be disappointed. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

01-30-07, 07:41 AM	#3
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't take it for two reasons. 1. You burn a lot more fuel, because all your speed settings are higher. 2. To my knowledge U-Boats didn't have such things; I've read a lot of books about U-Boats and neither the GW Kapselgebläse nor the MAN Buchigebläse were ever mentioned. __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

01-30-07, 08:00 AM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	It has worked very well for me. For ordering speeds for cruising, I order it in knots instead of using the engine telegraph. It is a good, tangible improvement on the boat. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-30-07, 09:12 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	IIRC Sailor Steve undertook some research on sub engines and concluded that the original engine/equipment was closer to what they had in reality :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-30-07, 09:22 AM	#8
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Yes. The engines came with the superchargers already installed, and so the un-upgraded max speed in SH3 is what the real life boats could do with the supercharged engines. I never take them, precisely for this reason. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

01-30-07, 12:48 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	II and VIIa didn't have them. VIIb and all later boats came with them. Max speeds for all boats are shown here: http://www.uboat.net/types/index.html __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-30-07, 01:53 PM	#10
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Interesting posts & links. Superchargers also seem like a love/hate option with some players. So if by accuracy the VIIB's engines came with Kapselgeblase then why would the game make it an upgrade option unless it's just something to chew renown. :hmm: __________________

01-30-07, 02:26 PM	#12
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	Then it should be modded, so that with the addon you have for example 1 knot more speed?

01-30-07, 02:43 PM	#15
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	Well, thats what I ment, 1 knot more with it, and obviously without 1 knot less..