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Old 02-08-22, 03:50 PM   #1
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That deserves more than just a minor slapping. If you think you must - do such a stunt on a rented race track, not on a public road.
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Old 02-08-22, 06:45 PM   #2
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Old 02-08-22, 06:51 PM   #3
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And WHO exactly determines this?

"moves at an inappropriate speed and in a manner that grossly violates the traffic code and is reckless"

So someone, somewhere, just decides he was restless because they can?

I'd have been in jail a LONG time ago if that flew in the USA given no Speed limit.
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Old 02-09-22, 06:34 AM   #4
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And WHO exactly determines this?
Common sense and reason.


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"moves at an inappropriate speed and in a manner that grossly violates the traffic code and is reckless"
Be free to take as much risk for yourself as you want - I let you. But when you start forcing others share the risk you impose on them without aksing them, I stop you. It was public highway, not closed for the event.

And for heaven'S sake - 417 km/h. Thats one third more than the landing speed of an F-104, which was legendary for its high speeds in flight and in landing. F-18s fly slower when doing their controlled crashlandings carriers - and miss the wire in 5-10% of attempts.

He is no hero. He is a villain, and his driving lciense shopuld be cancelled. Some people are not mentally fit to hold pets. Others are not psychologically stable enough to own firearms. And some lack a realistic sense of assessment to hold a driver's license.
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The section of the road Passer was on has no fixed speed limit, so he didn’t technically break any laws, but the Ministry said in a statement Wednesday that it “rejects any behavior in road traffic that leads or can lead to endangering road users.”


“All road users must abide by the rules of the road traffic regulations,” it added, citing the first clause of Germany’s road traffic law, which states that “anyone participating in traffic must behave in such a way that no other person is harmed, endangered or obstructed or inconvenienced more than is unavoidable under the circumstances.”
I cannot argue that what was done here was not dangerous, but I also find it difficult to justify criminal charges for someone who broke no laws. There is then nothing that cannot be charged as a crime.


If authorities are so concerned about this, then impose a limit. The underlying issue here is not that this man drove his Chiron so fast, which obviously imposes a danger, even if it did not actually cause harm, but of having no speed limit in place.


In my view the law allows what he did. If that is unacceptable, then change the law.
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Old 02-09-22, 02:55 PM   #6
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According to German rules, which I also learned in driving school, you must ALWAYS drive at a speed appropriate to the situation around you, at all times, even in the absence of explicit traffic signs or instructions. 418 km/h is never appropriate in public spaces under any circumstances. Never. Because it does not matter at what time of day he driove and whether he knew the track or not - since it was public, anything unforseeable and any unpredicted traffic participant could have entered the situation formula anytime, anywhere.



Its a difference whether you drive 190 on an Autobahn where there are no speed limits in place (most parts have speed limits, btw, its a popular cliche that all Autobahn is unregulated, that is not true), or more than twice of that. 400+ km/h? Thats beyond good and evil. And off with his head!
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That deserves more than just a minor slapping. If you think you must - do such a stunt on a rented race track, not on a public road.
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