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Hello,
Before I go into detail regarding what I have tried with JSGME to apply a mod, I thought I'd ask the community if anyone running SH4 - Wolves of the Pacific ( or any SH version ) inside of a Linux/Wine compatibility layer is able to apply mods? TIA |
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Abody!
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Navy Seal
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You know, on Ubuntu, Linux Lite, PC Linux, Mint and others, I have not got SH4 to work at all under Wine. I'd be interested in knowing how you tweaked Wine to get SH4 to run at all. Eventually, I expect Microsoft to be so draconian that running Windows any further will be unthinkable. I'd love not to lose SH4 when that happens.
Right now my Linux solution is a copy of Windows XP running in VirtualBox. It's good but not ideal because I can't let XP see the Internet without potential problems. Sure, they'd have to penetrate hardware and software firewalls, plus anti-malware and anti-viral software, but being owned is possible there. As it is now Microsoft is sneaking all the malware/spyware features of Windows 10 into Windows 7, 8 and 8.1. As a matter of fact, if you own one of those operating systems, chances are Microsoft has already downloaded the entirety (over 4 GB worth at your expense!) of Windows 10 onto your machine without your knowledge or permission. Google is your friend. Check it out and verify) Your operating system is becoming malware. It no longer is the customer serving platform to run all your software from. Its primary function is to deliver advertising and mine you for information they can sell and not give you any option to opt out or share the revenue.
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Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 09-28-15 at 06:14 AM. |
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Hello Rockin Robbin,
I will gladly dispense of all knowledge I have to get SHx running in Wine for you on your Linux system, just ask your questions. I would even go as far as shelling into your box (not root user) and doing it with you side by side. It's really not that hard, just frustrating at first as error messages are squashed by adding DLL components with ./winetricks --gui. SH4 has been running for 4 days now ( I play in realtime ) without error or crash. It is using all of my graphics hardware ( GTX760 x 2 ) for incredibly smooth ( 200+ fps ) gameplay. I will post a ytube clip using vokoscreen so you can see for yourself. Last edited by Abody; 09-28-15 at 07:14 AM. |
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Welcome to SubSim Abody
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Figured out the issue gentlemen. "#1 Real Environment Mod" is now enabled.
If I can help anyone just speak up. <add> I need to break a ungratefulness habit and post 'Thanks' to Mikemike47 for the following line in his Common Errors guide. ![]() Quote:
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Awesome!
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It's dark but that's because I like the night.
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Don't know what to say. Just checked video settings on Youtube and it's set to Public?
Your not missing much. It's a very boring video of surface running at night. I just wanted to show the fps performance with SH4 in Wine. |
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Okay, here's what I've done. Hope my memory works because I'm at work on a Windows computer right now. I installed Wine in Ubuntu 15.04 and found it was v2.6(?). Also found there were later versions not in the Canonical repositories.
So I downloaded Play on Linux, which opened up the newer versions. I downloaded the latest version of Wine. So let me install Silent Hunter 4 tonight and see what kind of errors I encounter and we'll go from there. For the benefit of those not familiar with what we're doing here, Ubuntu Linux is very different from Windows. Even the disk format is different and all data is encoded to the disk entirely differently than Windows. Windows formatting systems are FAT, FAT32, there's another new FAT for large flash drives, and NTFS, the most common format for hard drives. Apple has their own separate formatting for hard drives. And Linux uses mostly ext1, ext2, ext3 and ext4. These disk systems are not campatible. However Linux has FAT, FAT32 and NTSC routines built into the operating sytem so it reads and writes to Windows partitions like a native. Windows, typically for Microsoft, pretends Linux partitions don't exist and even refuses to give the disk drives a drive letter. Thank you Mocrosloth--fine citizen of the world. WINE, which stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator, is a similar system to Linux' ability to read Microsoft disks, that allows the Linux operating system to use compatible .dll files to execute Windows programs without using an emulator or virtual disk. Direct use of compatible .dll files gives WINE much better speed than a virtual disk. One thing that is very useful is that the WINE developers realized that "compatible dlls" aren't perfectly compatible. But if you own a copy of Windows you can tell WINE to substitute the real article dll for their "compatible" one to get greater compatibility. I think (guess really) that we'll be doing some of that here. When we're done we will have Silent Hunter running in a foreign, totally free, totally open, non-commercial software whose mission statement includes the fact that your computer belongs to you and that you have unrestricted right to manage it as you see fit. This is worth some trouble to create and we'll end up with cookie cutter instructions so you can do the same thing. Pardon all the technical language we'll be spewing. When we're done you can do this and tell Microsoft to go away and come back when they've learned some respect.
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Sorry to have come to this late - I have been running SH3 under PlayOnLinux in Linux Mint (basically Ubuntu) under both Cinnamon and Trinity (KDE3) for about 6 months now with no problems at all, and will be happy to help. In fact, I developed the Radio Text Exchange toolkit and THAT runs under both Linux and Windows, against both Linux and Windows versions of SH3.
I have done this with both the Steam version and the CD version, so it is perfectly possible. In fact, I have had no CTDs at all under the Linux installation. I have GWX and SH3Commander and JSME working with no problems. I've been itching to try out SH5, but have not as it requires me to log into UBI...well, you get the idea. Basically, that means I'm more than happy to help (although currently, I'm S. of Iceland about to engage a convoy). |
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Ah - now I've never got teamspeak to work under Linux properly.
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