Water Artifacts

[Everlazy]

Hey Everyone,

Have not played a sub sim since Wolf Pack back in 1990, and decided to give it a go again after watching Das Boot. Picked up SH5, played it vanilla, wasn't too impressed with it. After watching the first few videos in Shaefer's excellent lets play I decided I had to try again with with mods in place and realistically. At this point, all my mods seem to work, but there is a slight graphical issue I am dealing with. Take a look at this video:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By2A...hrVW9WOGc/edit

It's hard to see in the video, unless it is moving, but there are these white pixels that flash on and off on the water. It's something I would expect to see if my video card was overheating due to overclocking. The thing is, it is very evident on my screen, but I can hardly notice it in the recording I made. I have never seen it in any of Shaefer's let's plays, or any of the screenshots on the forums. I'm a bit puzzled.

So my question is, does anyone else see them? If so, are they to be expected, or can I get rid of them? If they are supposed to be there, I'll live with it, but I want my game to look like what I see in other people's videos.

Some facts:
1. The issue is not present when the game is installed and on patch 1.2.
2. The issue is not present after using the generic patcher.
3. The issue is present when I load my MEP.
4. That leads me to believe it is a mod.
5. I have tried modifying my MEP multiple times with uninstalls/reinstalls to see if I can figure out which mod it is, but I have not had any luck there. Also, it's very time consuming to do that.
6. I removed this specific mod:
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters
After doing that, the water is no longer blue, and the dots are not quite as noticeable. They are still there though.

Here is my current MEP list:
Accurate German Flags
sobers game loading tips V8 SH5
NDB,NDH OM#1 - No Dialog Indicator
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
sobers multi color mod V5
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters
DynEnv v2.9 - 6. Sleet for Winter Campaigns
DynEnv v2.9 - Sounds
sobers best ever fog V31 SH5
sobers base sky mechanics V1
sobers waves mod V30 SH5
Water reflections intensity varied by available sunlight by TheDarkWraith
Small_trees_SH5_V1
sobers smoke screen V1 SH5 (DynEnv compatible)
sobers more trees SH5
sobers storm Clouds v2 SH5
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
Speech fixes and additions (english version)
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
FXU_0_0_22_Ship zon Files
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Large Optics for TDW UI
Large Optics for NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Test 17 Patch
Large Optics for TDW UI 16 by 9
IRAI_0_0_41_ByTheDarkWraith
Real U-Boat Performance - Type VII v1.4
sobers TDWUserOptions for mega mod +Menu SH5 V10
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013
Sjizzle's - MarineQuadrat Charts for NewUIs v. 0.00.2
Equip_Upgrade_Dates_Chart
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option Two
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5
OH II v2.5 Flag_Wind_Patch
OH II v2.5 Grid Request fix Patch SH5
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.7 by vdr1981_Main mod
R.S.D. v5.7 - Indestructible UZO patch
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
MQK Gradient_IO
MQK LocationMaps_IO
MQK ShapeTextures_NO
sobers Lights Cfg V10 SH5
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
Trevally TDC Help v2
Patrolsearch autoscriptsV04
MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
sobers hud sounds V1 SH5
sobers no footstep sound mod SH5 V2
sobers Realistic contrast V14 SH5
sobers realistic underwater FX8 SH5
sobers Blackout lights V2 SH5
sobers NO ship bow wave mod SH5
Shadow Improvement ModLR
sobers less resources shadows SH5
Moon_light_mod V6 SH5
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
Warfox deck crew always whispering SH5 German Version
WHF-FUC_We Have Flooding-Flooding Under Control_Fix
Shallow Waters Voice Be Gone
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
sobers No bullet trasers SH5
AMMO_v1.0_SH5_by_Raven_2012
sobers CrewAI mod SH5
sobers reduced file sizes SH5 V2
sobers dead is dead V3 NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0 SH5

I think I'm missing something. I've tried searching, but have not had much luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Everlazy

[vdr1981]

Try to remove "sobers waves mod V30 SH5" ...If this removes those pixel flashes we can than try to edit some waves parameters manually in order to maintain Sober's waves mechanics but with less sharpens or reflection...
Or you can simply find some other waves mod or use default ...

[Trevally.]

Sounds like your vid card is out of mem and some mods are very heavy on the graphics. There have been a few threads talking about this issue.

So remove the graphics mods and you should be ok

i.e.
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch

[Everlazy]

Originally Posted by vdr1981

Try to remove "sobers waves mod V30 SH5" ...If this removes those pixel flashes we can than try to edit some waves parameters manually in order to maintain Sober's waves mechanics but with less sharpens or reflection...
Or you can simply find some other waves mod or use default ...

I'll try removing that wave mod after work today.

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Sounds like your vid card is out of mem and some mods are very heavy on the graphics. There have been a few threads talking about this issue.

So remove the graphics mods and you should be ok

i.e.
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch

I'll give that a shot as well. I have 3GB of video memory on this card. I wouldn't think I'd be out. Is there a utility to tell how much I am using while in SH5?

Thanks,

Everlazy

[Trevally.]

I just watched your vid and it is hard to see

The white pixels do look like a wave issue
If it was your vid card the white outs would be much bigger

[Defiance]

For me it was the wave mod that gave this effect

I could be wrong as i've not checked inside the data folder, but i'd guess the wave mod contains something like light reflections (forget exact name)

[Sjizzle]

remove sober wave mod

[Everlazy]

It was the wave mod. Thanks for the help everyone.

Everlazy

[Aktungbby]

Everlazy!

[Everlazy]

Thanks! Glad to be part of this awesome community now.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Everlazy

Thanks! Glad to be part of this awesome community now.

SINK EM ALL!!

[Jester_UK]

If you want a good wave mod, check through the Dynamic Environment thread and see how to install Dynamic Environment - Wave Mechanics.

I'm personally using Wave Mechanics Gale (Improved) which I can't remember if it's in the main Dynamic Environment mod or a seperate download. I'd recommend this one, although obviously personal tastes differ.

If I remember right the main mod contains three wave mechanics option (Breeze, Gale and Hurricane) which if I understand it correctly directly effects not only the look of the waves but their height as well.

Well worth a look.

[Everlazy]

Hey Jester,

Thanks for the tip. Do you know if I need to use both the gale and gale improved together, or can I just load gale improved?

Everlazy

[Jester_UK]

Only use one of the options at a time. I would suggest you try the Breeze and Hurricane versions as well at some stage, just to see if they better suit your personal taste.