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Old 08-06-13, 11:27 AM   #1
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Default Replacing coal in Britain with wood chips? From the USA as well.

So how to you folks from Britain feel about this?:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/0...on/#more-91046

True there's a lot less bad pollutants released compared to coal(90% less mercury for ex.) but how much more wood has to be burned to match the same output from coal?
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Old 08-06-13, 12:35 PM   #2
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If it's cheaper than coal and has the same energy output then I'm for it. Most of our coal comes from Germany now anyway.
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Old 08-06-13, 01:12 PM   #3
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What happens if they cut the subsidies?
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Old 08-06-13, 01:15 PM   #4
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I got about 300 cubic metres of birch for sale
But you'll have to go and cut it yourselves
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There's loads of coal left in Britain so there's no need to burn wood, oh hang on a minute didn't the...........................................
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There's loads of coal left in Britain so there's no need to burn wood, oh hang on a minute didn't the...........................................
I like fill the gaps, far too easy....bloody tories closed down all the mines.
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As much as it kills me to say it...Wilson closed a lot more pits than Thatcher.
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As much as it kills me to say it...Wilson closed a lot more pits than Thatcher.
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Coal vs Wood pellets... In BTU's per ton, coal wins hands down....
http://www.ehow.com/about_5597091_wo...-vs_-coal.html

I heat my home with Anthracite coal because it's cheaper than any other fuel and I just happen to live where Anthracite is king. The linked article quotes 2009 prices. That's changed about $100.00 per ton since then. But still, I can heat my home through the winter for an average of $300.00 to $600.00. Even if we have a long cold winter.

I would expect the price to rise if global demand increased. China buys a lot of it now. Probably the reason for the jump in price in a relatively short period of time.
If Britain and the EU start burning pellets then maybe my cheap fuel will remain cheap or get cheaper. Maybe China should start using pellets too. I'm sure they have plenty of timber resources.
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Coal vs Wood pellets... In BTU's per ton, coal wins hands down....
http://www.ehow.com/about_5597091_wo...-vs_-coal.html

I heat my home with Anthracite coal because it's cheaper than any other fuel and I just happen to live where Anthracite is king. The linked article quotes 2009 prices. That's changed about $100.00 per ton since then. But still, I can heat my home through the winter for an average of $300.00 to $600.00. Even if we have a long cold winter.

I would expect the price to rise if global demand increased. China buys a lot of it now. Probably the reason for the jump in price in a relatively short period of time.
If Britain and the EU start burning pellets then maybe my cheap fuel will remain cheap or get cheaper. Maybe China should start using pellets too. I'm sure they have plenty of timber resources.
We used to use Anthracite on the Rayburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayburn_Range) IIRC, good stuff, doesn't burn quite as hot as other coal but it burns longer and at a consistent heat.
We don't use the Rayburn any more since it tried to kill us (CO, long story) so we use standard coal on the living room fire. It is not cheap though, not cheap at all, we buy in the summer before the winter prices come in but even then it's about £6.88 at the moment, and will probably clock up to £7 a bag by the end of the month when the winter prices start.
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As much as it kills me to say it...Wilson closed a lot more pits than Thatcher.
Most definitely true but Mr Wilson did not close them to make a profit for his mates like the bloody Tories did.

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We used to use Anthracite on the Rayburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayburn_Range) IIRC, good stuff, doesn't burn quite as hot as other coal but it burns longer and at a consistent heat.
We don't use the Rayburn any more since it tried to kill us (CO, long story) so we use standard coal on the living room fire. It is not cheap though, not cheap at all, we buy in the summer before the winter prices come in but even then it's about £6.88 at the moment, and will probably clock up to £7 a bag by the end of the month when the winter prices start.
I use a Liesure Line coal stoker like this one...



Thermostat controlled blowers and stoker feed is great!

It was made in a town just over the ridge from my home. Purchased from one of the inventors and a former partner in the company who now just sells them out of a small store not far from here.
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Most definitely true but Mr Wilson did not close them to make a profit for his mates like the bloody Tories did.


Do the Left seriously claim that Harold Wilson was accepting economic realities while Margaret Thatcher was motivated by sheer spite?

That argument flatlined many years ago.
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Build more nuclear plants, save trees and coal.
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Do the Left seriously claim that Harold Wilson was accepting economic realities while Margaret Thatcher was motivated by sheer spite?

That argument flatlined many years ago.
Want meant to be an argument Jim just a statement that I believe still to be true
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