Moronic Yahoo story of the day

[nikimcbee]

These guys never cease to amaze me.

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/why-sta...160300514.html

However, history has proved that treasonous behavior is just as often necessary to stimulate progressive revolution as it is to endow malevolent forces with unrestricted authority necessary to obstruct basic human rights

Go back to your college english class.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Go back to your college english class.

Or their college history class...

In those movies, Palpatine is so far removed from us we can only approach him from the perspective of a Hitler. We must always remember that Hitler didn't ascend to dictator by using tanks, but the ballot box.

Hitler was appointed...

...he was also guilty of treason...

Try naming a single character in the original trilogy that can attain such an authentic level of ambiguity.

Lets see he shoots first; asks no questions later.

He smuggles contraband for a crime lord.

He was dishonorably discharged from the service

He was about to leave all the rebels to die:

Luke: So. You got your reward and you're just leaving, then?
Han Solo: That's right, yeah. Got some old debts I gotta pay off with this stuff. Even if I didn't, you don't think I'd be fool enough to stick around here, do you? Why don't you come with us? You're pretty good in a fight. We could use you.
Luke: Come on. Why don't you take a look around. You know what's about to happen, what they're up against. They could use a good pilot like you, you're turning your back on them.
Han Solo: What good is a reward if you ain't around to use it? Besides, attacking that battle station is not my idea of courage. It's more like, suicide.

Oh then he saves Skywalke's life and by extension the whole Rebellion.

There is moral ambiguity for you.

[misha1967]

Not to mention another "minor" character that said reviewer obviously missed entirely: Darth Vader. Or perhaps the original trilogy was just too horribly bad for him to watch it all the way through "Return..." where Vader answers Luke's pleas for him to turn to the light side with an anguished "it is too late for me, son", followed by the rather obvious internal battle he wages as he watches the Emperor torture his only son until he finally has enough and sacrifices his own life to save him.

No, no moral ambiguity there at all.

[CaptainHaplo]

Railing against the "age of bush" - executive mandates from on high, sinister plots and political deceit - but the writer can't seem to find the same dangers and occurances in mandates to religious institutions (or private insurance companies) regarding abortion and birth control, the writer fails to contrast an educational law, passed by Congress and signed by the chief executive - with the unilateral (and unconstitutional) mandates of a "waiver" that includes another set of standards arbitrarily set by the President....

Not that the "age of bush" was "good" - but the intentional disregard for the present circumstances and actions while blasting "the guy on the other side", is hypocritical at best....

Of course - what do we expect from someone who makes a living reviewing movies and uses the forum to tell us that "treason" is ok ....
Political spouting of idiocy exemplified.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Or their college history class...

Hitler was appointed...

...he was also guilty of treason...



Lets see he shoots first; asks no questions later.

He smuggles contraband for a crime lord.

He was dishonorably discharged from the service

He was about to leave all the rebels to die:

Oh then he saves Skywalke's life and by extension the whole Rebellion.

There is moral ambiguity for you.

He actually shoots second.... Lucas discussed this and in the original Greedo shoots first, but the camera angle didn't "catch" it - which is why in the remake there is a wider angle.....

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

He actually shoots second.... Lucas discussed this and in the original Greedo shoots first, but the camera angle didn't "catch" it - which is why in the remake there is a wider angle.....

I'm sure he did that just to sell T-Shirts...

[mookiemookie]

Yeah the prequels had wonderfully nuanced, morally ambiguous characters...

and Jar Jar Binks.



This fact alone make his argument null and void.

And all of the political crap can be left at the door. The prequels were written in the 1990s, before Bush was president.

[Takeda Shingen]

Is this going to be a daily update thread? Dear god I hope so.

[the_tyrant]

Ambiguity DOES NOT equal good movie
Politics are the LAST thing consider when looking at a movie
Triumph of the Will is a WELL DONE work, even if it is pro Nazi.

Acting, dialog, action, characters etc ARE WHAT MATTERS. NOT politics

Hell, you can have a movie that portrays bad people in a good light and it can still be a good movie.

Too bad the movie industry is really politicized. I thought The Green Berets was a well done movie, yet lots of people says its bad simply because it was pro Vietnam war.

[nikimcbee]

I knew this guy was full of it just from the title. So the injection of the politics was just extra BS. I've never heard anybody that liked the first three movies over the original three.

I just have a thing with yahoo "news". They don't report news, they manufacture it.

(not a yahoo original, but what I'm talking about)

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/...aved+her+life/



A yahoo animal attack:

This afternoon I happened to see some sea lions and seals. I thought to myself how cute they were so I decided to get a bit closer than all of the other tourists and went down to a rock trying to pet them doing a baby talk while taking pictures.
"Suddenly, one of them jumped out of the water so fast and impetuously that it got about one foot away from me, looked me in the eye, roared in fury and tried to bite me. Everyone there screamed, including me.

No, this is an actual attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Fox

I'd post pix, but....

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I've never heard anybody that liked the first three movies over the original three.

I too thought no one was that stupid, but then I saw the comments to this video:



There is a distressing number of young people who actually like the prequels better, or at least as much, as the originals.

I can't wait until their generation starts producing films.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

I too thought no one was that stupid, but then I saw the comments to this video:



There is a distressing number of young people who actually like the prequels better, or at least as much, as the originals.

I can't wait until their generation starts producing films.

Now that is a great post. I didn't know they were re-releasing The Phantom Menace in 3D, until I saw a preview for it in the theater. I thought to myself, "I don't need to see it in the theater, all of the best parts of the film are in the preview."

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

There is a distressing number of young people who actually like the prequels better, or at least as much, as the originals

There is a term for people like that: Terrorists....

[nikimcbee]

Don't worry, we can out-live Lucas and with the miracle of CGI, we can re-make episodes I-III once he kicks the bucket.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Don't worry, we can out-live Lucas and with the miracle of CGI, we can re-make episodes I-III once he kicks the bucket.

I bet he will remake them on his death bed to gain an extra 70 years of copyright.