Russia Objects to US Warship in Black Sea

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MOSCOW -- Russia voiced concern Sunday about a U.S. warship now just off its shores in the Black Sea, saying the unexpected visit raised further questions about U.S. plans to create a missile shield in Europe.
The USS Monterey, which is capable of detecting and shooting down ballistic missiles, is taking part in annual joint military exercises conducted by NATO and Ukraine.
The guided-missile cruiser was sent in March from its home port of Norfolk, Va., to the Mediterranean Sea as the first part of a four-phase plan to create the European missile shield. The plan calls for placing land- and sea-based radars and interceptors in several European locations over the next decade.
Russia opposes the planned system, which it worries could threaten its own nuclear missiles or undermine their deterrence capability.
The Foreign Ministry issued a statement Sunday saying Russia "has repeatedly stressed that we will not leave unnoticed any elements of U.S. strategic infrastructure in the immediate vicinity of our borders and will consider any such steps as a threat to our security."
It said the appearance of the USS Monterey caught Russia by surprise and gave it cause to distrust U.S. verbal assurances that the planned missile shield was not targeted at Russia.
"The reconnaisance by the American anti-missile personnel in the Black Sea once again proves the necessity of working out clear legal guarantees that the anti-missile defense system that is being deployed in Europe is not targeted against Russia's nuclear deterrence potential," the ministry said.
Russia agreed to consider NATO's proposal last fall to cooperate on the missile shield, but insisted the system be run jointly. NATO rejected that demand and no compromise has been found yet.


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[CCIP]

Well, the US might be a little nervous too if the Russians started exercising in the Gulf of Mexico all of a sudden...

[AVGWarhawk]

Russia likes drilling for oil in the Gulf of Mexico.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...oil-to-moscow/

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Well, the US might be a little nervous too if the Russians started exercising in the Gulf of Mexico all of a sudden...

Last year a Russian Udaloy class destroyer made a port call in Venezuela, didn't seem to make much in the way of headlines.

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Last year a Russian Udaloy class destroyer made a port call in Venezuela, didn't seem to make much in the way of headlines.

It was the Kirov Pyotr Velikiy and the Udaloy II Admiral Chabanenko cruising to the Caribbean in the fall of 2008 when that port call was made.

Here is the US reaction to that:
http://www.informationdissemination....coming-to.html

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/0...ussia_090808w/

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

It was the Kirov Pyotr Velikiy and the Udaloy II Admiral Chabanenko cruising to the Caribbean in the fall of 2008 when that port call was made.

Here is the US reaction to that:
http://www.informationdissemination....coming-to.html

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/0...ussia_090808w/

That is the one, according to reports there was a fight between a Russian and Venezuelan naval commander aboard the Russian flagship that resulted in some bad relations and perhaps canceled weapon orders between those two countries.

[Molon Labe]

Oh yeah, I forgot all about that one, lol.

[Jimbuna]

I wonder how many Russian submersibles are lying off the US east and west coasts right now?

Of course they're not visible though are they

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I wonder how many Russian submersibles are lying off the US east and west coasts right now?

Of course they're not visible though are they

One each, the K-219 off the east coast and the K-129 (half of her anyways) off the west coast...

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

One each, the K-219 off the east coast and the K-129 (half of her anyways) off the west coast...

Classic response

[Oberon]

Well put TLAM, well put.

[Stealhead]

Might be true but there is a good chance that a Russian sub is out there so who has the last laugh now?And we still shadow them as well near their turf.(it is wise always to respect your advisory not doing so a mistake) A Russian could make the same joke about the Thresher and Scorpion(though they are both in the Atlantic).