SH5 + patch + mods: is it worth it?

[orengreen]

OK OK... don't chew me out for the title, this is a serious question:
I really want your advice on this.
I used to play SH3 + GWX and I loved it!
I'm not hardcore like some of you: I let my officers calculate firing solutions since I liked "locking" the periscope on a ship's "sweet spot" and let fly. I enjoyed the hunt more - sneaking up and then sneaking away, waiting out wasserbombs, sneaking into harbors, etc. I also liked the external camera very much and the spectacular views it offered (fine, consider me a cheat GWX guys). I don't have to have everything at full realism, but I do like eye-candy and decent AI, of course.

I read some awful things about SH5, and I really want to know if it's worth playing. It's not the money, it's the time, energy, and heartache I worry about.
So what I want to know is if the patches and mods do indeed fix SH5's shortcoming or not, and if yes, which mods do the job. I know there's a whole bunch of mods out there, but I really want the handful of those mods that really boost the game's visuals + fix its problems.
I guess what I'm looking for in SH5 is to be a greatly upgraded and improved version of SH3.

Thanks for your time and advice!

[SteelViking]

The short answer: Yes, IMHO

The long answer: The battle that is most likely about to ensue between the detractors and the fan boys will fill that in.

Either way, I really think you should just give it a try. Besides, once modders have been given enough time on SH5, it will be the premier submarine simulator.

[orengreen]

Cool, and what mods (the ones that really matter) do you recommend?

[SteelViking]

I really like this list made up by AvM(just follow the link). I know it is pretty long, and may seem daunting, but he has everything color coded for importance. Just start with the more important stuff and work your way down as you feel comfortable with it. But, remember, your mod list should really follow your personal preference, so just use this list as a basic guide.

Eventually the modding community for SH5 will put everything together into a super mod I am sure, but that is a good ways away.

Hope this helps

Link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=131

[kvbrock82]

From what i gather, the order you install the mods is also critical. Dont ask me which come first as im still waiting for my copy of SHV to be delivered. Maybe someone with experience can help out?

[mookiemookie]

It's probably as worth it as it was a week or two ago when a thread asking the same thing was posted.

[janh]

kaboom, and another one of those... Maybe there should be a sticked "buyers guide" in this forum... no, seriously!

Well, do what I would do: Read the posts in this forum, and make up your own mind. Whether it is worth it depends very much on you, and your expectations. Do you just look for a game to spent your time, do you look for an exhaustive experience that surpasses a supermodded SHIII immediatly, do you search for something that is as good as it is for now and has the potential to become the next supermodded SHIII, or ...? Does the online DRM scheme matter in your decision?

There is no simple answer to this, and everybody here will have his (or her) own views. There is plenty of threads, older threads, that you could browse. It's a lot, but worth it.

[Zedi]

Originally Posted by orengreen

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I'm not hardcore like some of you: I let my officers calculate firing solutions since I liked "locking" the periscope on a ship's "sweet spot" and let fly.
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I guess what I'm looking for in SH5 is to be a greatly upgraded and improved version of SH3.

This was the reason of the majority of the criticism at release. Not the dumb AI nor the unfinished state of the sim part, but "omg, where is the lock ship button and the dials from the UI, jizaz craist... where is the teleport button, how I suppose to get up in the con tower?!11?"

SH5 is very different and I agree with those who said that the devs had in mind to build the ultimate u-boat sim, but they got short with the time and budget.. so they finished only the n00b friendly part, the rest is a big mess. But with mods that fix tons of bugs, this can still be played as a sim. And the sim part is just brilliant and hardcore. Those who played SH3 without "lock target" should love SH5 now. At least I do and I'm very addicted...more than I was for WoW.

The noob version with "lock target" is replaced now by "align the dots, shot &lol" which suck badly. At least in SH3 those who played casual had the feeling that they play a sim and they are doing things the right way with the "help" of the officers/crew and by clicking with the mouse on dials on the UI. Tbh, in SH5 the casual part is designed more for retards/slow people.. or I think they had in mind to bring in the game kids, more fresh blood.

Bottom line, the noob version is too easy to play and you will get bored soon, the sim part is hard and you need to spend a LOT of time to find the right addons that fixes the bugfest from this part. My personal advice for you, stick with SH3 and GWX.

[orengreen]

I read around here that there's a pdf "110 page official guide". Is there anywhere to download it?