Selling my SH5 (UK)

rundeepa · 04-29-10, 04:23 AM

I hope this isnt against forum rules?

I am selling my copy of SH5, i just dont have time to play it, and perhaps someone who was cautious about buying it, will take a chance on it being a bit cheaper.

Its on ebay right now

walsh2509 · 04-29-10, 06:25 AM

Is the Serial No not tied to you Ubi logon ? So if anyone tries to register it to there ubi logon it won't work ??

I thought I read that somewhere , not so much about pirate copies , more to do with stopping Re-Sale of the game.

sofie_59 · 04-29-10, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rundeepa

I hope this isnt against forum rules?

I am selling my copy of SH5, i just dont have time to play it, and perhaps someone who was cautious about buying it, will take a chance on it being a bit cheaper.

Its on ebay right now

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT

It is linked to your acount, so nobody can registred it.
You have to give away your acount at UBI to i think

msxyz · 04-29-10, 07:42 AM

Unfortunately you cannot sell software that employ some kind of registering scheme.

What most people here on these forums failed to grapsp is that DRM is aimed mainly at killing the legitimate second hand market as well as discourage the casual pirates in the process.

Even the most sophisticate copy protection scheme will get eventually cracked. But the second hand market is a pain in the ass of publishers. Unfortunately for them, several courts around the world ruled that selling a book, a vinyl or CD (just to name a few examples of content which rest on some form of phisical media) is perfectly legitimate and so is selling an used piece of software.

The moment you insert some kind of mandatory registration tied to an account, selling the media becomes useless, even if there's no law preventing you to do so. In other words, the consumers get shafted once again.

rundeepa · 04-29-10, 08:30 AM

well, its no big deal giving away my ubi account either, i mean, it doesnt do much anyway.

Ragtag · 04-29-10, 08:58 AM

Jesus, he's just trying to sell it with the account. No need to bomb the crap out of him.

The General · 04-29-10, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragtag

Jesus, he's just trying to sell it with the account. No need to bomb the crap out of him.

I retract my comment for being too realistic for some people.

Zedi · 04-29-10, 09:27 AM

It's the same procedure as selling ur account in any mmo game. I'm not sure if selling SH5 is covered in the EULA, I mean if is allowed to sell ur account. If not, there is a risk to be scamed as the seller can get back his account after he got paid even if he give away his account details. In WoW this is a really risky business and you have to be really careful from who and from where to buy a new account.

Anyway, this is not WoW and a high interest nor expensive game, so I really don't see any interest for scams.

SKLR · 04-29-10, 09:34 AM

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Use of the Multimedia Product

The User is authorised to use the Multimedia Product in accordance with the instructions provided in the manual or on the packaging of the Multimedia Product.
The Licence is granted solely for private use.

It is not permitted:
- To make copies of the Multimedia Product,
- To operate the Multimedia Product commercially,
- To use it contrary to morality or the laws in force,
- To modify the Multimedia Product or create any derived work,
- To transmit the Multimedia Product via a telephone network or any other electronic means, except during multi-player games on authorised networks,
- To create or distribute unauthorised levels and/or scenarios,
- To decompile, reverse engineer or disassemble the Multimedia Product.

The Multimedia Product can only be played after the User registers the Multimedia Product and obtains a unique ubi.com account. This Multimedia Product is distributed solely for use by the authorized end User who has registered the Multimedia Product and obtained a unique ubi.com account.

The User cannot transfer, sell, resell, sublicense, rent or lease the downloaded copy of the Multimedia Product and the attached Key Code to a third party. The User cannot sublicense, rent or lease the hard copy of the Multimedia Product and the attached Key Code to a third party.

You understand and agree that this Multimedia Product requires an online connection at all times and the Multimedia Product must be played through the Internet services provided at ubi.com. In the event Ubisoft terminates or discontinues Internet services associated with this Multimedia Product, Ubisoft will provide a software update that will allow the User to utilize the Multimedia Product without connecting to Ubisoft's servers.

The User acknowledges that Ubisoft may collect and use certain User data in accordance with the terms of use and/or privacy policy accessible on the website www.ubi.com.

According to the EULA, which everyone obviously reads, your auction is illegal.
LE: Oh, and they also own your server stored saved games. Quite an entertining read really.

Feuer Frei! · 04-29-10, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SKLR

Oh, and they also own your server stored saved games.

Meh, they can have them

" To create or distribute unauthorised levels and/or scenarios"

Well, if one was to take that literally, or out of context.....
Modders, anyone? Creating levels and/or scenarios

Obviously no dramas, i know that. I'm being pedantic.

rundeepa · 04-29-10, 09:42 AM

i can offer anyone who buys it plenty of assurances he/she wont be scammed, i have sold steam accounts before, against there eula i know, but the buyers aint complaining.

if this is against forum rules then please close the thread, if it isnt, please stop bleating on about eula, and scams.

Feuer Frei! · 04-29-10, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rundeepa

i can offer anyone who buys it plenty of assurances he/she wont be scammed, i have sold steam accounts before, against there eula i know, but the buyers aint complaining.

if this is against forum rules then please close the thread, if it isnt, please stop bleating on about eula, and scams.

i think they are just trying to give advice, with some facts, i'm sure they are not insinuating anything to do with your product on ebay

rundeepa · 04-29-10, 09:50 AM

well im sorry if i misinterpreted it in some way, it just seemed i should expect a lawyer knocking on the door any time now.

but it is cheap at that price, so, please someone buy it

SKLR · 04-29-10, 09:53 AM

I was just saying careful with ebay, maybe try to pass it on to a friend, you know...discreetly.

SabreHawk · 04-29-10, 10:04 AM

Your not getting it Rundeepa, what you are wanting to do is illegal plain and simple.
What you are asking someone else to do, is buy an unusable product that you are selling illegally.

You aggreed to the EULA when you registered SH5 and created the account. And now you are essentially saying you dont aggree with it.

04-29-10, 04:23 AM	#1
rundeepa Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Selling my SH5 (UK) I hope this isnt against forum rules? I am selling my copy of SH5, i just dont have time to play it, and perhaps someone who was cautious about buying it, will take a chance on it being a bit cheaper. Its on ebay right now Last edited by rundeepa; 04-29-10 at 10:36 AM.

04-29-10, 07:42 AM	#4
msxyz Engineer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 218 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Unfortunately you cannot sell software that employ some kind of registering scheme. What most people here on these forums failed to grapsp is that DRM is aimed mainly at killing the legitimate second hand market as well as discourage the casual pirates in the process. Even the most sophisticate copy protection scheme will get eventually cracked. But the second hand market is a pain in the ass of publishers. Unfortunately for them, several courts around the world ruled that selling a book, a vinyl or CD (just to name a few examples of content which rest on some form of phisical media) is perfectly legitimate and so is selling an used piece of software. The moment you insert some kind of mandatory registration tied to an account, selling the media becomes useless, even if there's no law preventing you to do so. In other words, the consumers get shafted once again. __________________ ...Sinking deeper into the cold, dark oceans of life

04-29-10, 08:58 AM	#6
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	Jesus, he's just trying to sell it with the account. No need to bomb the crap out of him. __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

04-29-10, 10:04 AM	#15
SabreHawk Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Posts: 530 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Your not getting it Rundeepa, what you are wanting to do is illegal plain and simple. What you are asking someone else to do, is buy an unusable product that you are selling illegally. You aggreed to the EULA when you registered SH5 and created the account. And now you are essentially saying you dont aggree with it. __________________ "Chance favors the prepared mind"

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04-29-10, 06:25 AM	#2
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Is the Serial No not tied to you Ubi logon ? So if anyone tries to register it to there ubi logon it won't work ?? I thought I read that somewhere , not so much about pirate copies , more to do with stopping Re-Sale of the game.

04-29-10, 08:30 AM	#5
rundeepa Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	well, its no big deal giving away my ubi account either, i mean, it doesnt do much anyway.

04-29-10, 09:27 AM	#8
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	It's the same procedure as selling ur account in any mmo game. I'm not sure if selling SH5 is covered in the EULA, I mean if is allowed to sell ur account. If not, there is a risk to be scamed as the seller can get back his account after he got paid even if he give away his account details. In WoW this is a really risky business and you have to be really careful from who and from where to buy a new account. Anyway, this is not WoW and a high interest nor expensive game, so I really don't see any interest for scams.

04-29-10, 09:42 AM	#11
rundeepa Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	i can offer anyone who buys it plenty of assurances he/she wont be scammed, i have sold steam accounts before, against there eula i know, but the buyers aint complaining. if this is against forum rules then please close the thread, if it isnt, please stop bleating on about eula, and scams.

04-29-10, 09:50 AM	#13
rundeepa Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	well im sorry if i misinterpreted it in some way, it just seemed i should expect a lawyer knocking on the door any time now. but it is cheap at that price, so, please someone buy it

04-29-10, 09:53 AM	#14
SKLR Watch Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 20 Downloads: 185 Uploads: 0	I was just saying careful with ebay, maybe try to pass it on to a friend, you know...discreetly.