Sailing through the channel

KaleunBier · 08-02-09, 03:36 PM

Hello all! Just started playing awhile ago and I am at the end of '39 and was wondering if anybody could give advice or tips about sailing through the channel out of Wilhelmshaven. My patrol areas are obviously always on the other end and I like to patrol them even though its not needed, but I go ALL the way around and by the time I'm done hunting I'm almost out of fuel so I just teleport back which I want to stop doing. Thanks!

meduza · 08-02-09, 04:07 PM

Wait for the night and pass through on surface. When you spot a patrol, adjust your course to avoid it. Only submerge as a last resort because the Channel is mined.
It's better to pass through in good visibility because you have more time to react. You don't want to spot a destroyer coming out of a fog, 500m away.

Brag · 08-02-09, 05:55 PM

I have three bits of advice.

Stay out of the Channel
Keep out of Der Kanal
Entres pas dans La Manche

Hanzberger · 08-02-09, 06:10 PM

I was wondering how to do this also. I was thinking of trying to creep thru submerged, silent running but I don't think you would make it thru in time at low speed.

In fact I was just about to go to the GWX manuel to see if they have any suggestions. I got killed on my first run last game. (during wartime, Sep 39)

KaleunBier · 08-02-09, 07:26 PM

Well I have kind of a cheap idea and that is to sail dangerously close to either shore as long as periscope depth will allow and make a ruckus so that the DDs continue to hear and chase me and see if they follow me to the shore and run aground

I've never done this before and it seems like it'd be very time consuming always making manual course corrections and stuff.

Task Force · 08-02-09, 07:50 PM

The english channel should have a sign... saying...

Abandon All Hope, All Ye Who Enter Here
:rotfl:

KaleunBier · 08-02-09, 08:09 PM

Lol! Not to change the subject or anything but your name brings me to my next question...do the numerous task forces I see cruising around in GWX have a purpose? I mean historically speaking?

Task Force · 08-02-09, 08:19 PM

There is a taskforce... ive chased it... its a trick...

But yes. they simulate the movement of ships.

Brer Rabbit · 08-02-09, 11:08 PM

When I ship out of the Fatherland bound for the Atlantic I patrol as much as I can and put int Thalia or the Portuguese refuel ship, later I would stop at the french Ports. This gives me two advantages, one I can make long patrols in each direction. I am able to also add new qualifications to my crew replace and any fired torps.

STAY OUT OF THE CHANNEL

good Hunting

Hanomag · 08-02-09, 11:31 PM

Go through the Kanal during the prewar shakedown cruise and make that your last visit!!

kz26 · 08-02-09, 11:35 PM

I'm with Brag on this one...avoid it if you can.

ps249 · 08-03-09, 12:09 AM

the channel is not that deep so beware of crash dives

TarJak · 08-03-09, 02:27 AM

By the end of 1939 the U-Wafe had given up almost all operations except minelaying in the channel. The combination of shallow water, high volumes of anti-submarine forces and both enemy and friendly mines made it an extremely dangerous place to operate a German submarine.

About your fuel usage, I assume you are in a Type II, but even with that you should be able to operate in the Western approaches for a short period as long as you are careful.

Never cruise at above 7-8kts, only use full speed when overtaking or chasing down targets and only for short periods.

As long as you are careful you shouldn't need to teleport.

Sailor Steve · 08-03-09, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunBier

...but I go ALL the way around and by the time I'm done hunting I'm almost out of fuel so I just teleport back which I want to stop doing. Thanks!

Ditto what TarJak said about the Type II, but even in that boat you will never be assigned a grid you can't patrol. Never go faster than 2/3 speed when cruising, and you should have enough fuel to go anywhere you need to in any boat, and have plenty of time left for patrolling.

Zilch · 08-03-09, 02:08 PM

I haven't had a problem in the Channel yet, except the odd patrol here and there. Is this due to my time frame? Currently December, 1940.

08-02-09, 03:36 PM	#1
KaleunBier Bosun Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 63 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Sailing through the channel Hello all! Just started playing awhile ago and I am at the end of '39 and was wondering if anybody could give advice or tips about sailing through the channel out of Wilhelmshaven. My patrol areas are obviously always on the other end and I like to patrol them even though its not needed, but I go ALL the way around and by the time I'm done hunting I'm almost out of fuel so I just teleport back which I want to stop doing. Thanks!

08-02-09, 04:07 PM	#2
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Wait for the night and pass through on surface. When you spot a patrol, adjust your course to avoid it. Only submerge as a last resort because the Channel is mined. It's better to pass through in good visibility because you have more time to react. You don't want to spot a destroyer coming out of a fog, 500m away. __________________

08-02-09, 05:55 PM	#3
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I have three bits of advice. Stay out of the Channel Keep out of Der Kanal Entres pas dans La Manche __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

08-02-09, 07:50 PM	#6
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The english channel should have a sign... saying... Abandon All Hope, All Ye Who Enter Here :rotfl: __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-02-09, 08:19 PM	#8
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	There is a taskforce... ive chased it... its a trick... But yes. they simulate the movement of ships. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-02-09, 06:10 PM	#4
Hanzberger Helmsman Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 102 Downloads: 140 Uploads: 0	I was wondering how to do this also. I was thinking of trying to creep thru submerged, silent running but I don't think you would make it thru in time at low speed. In fact I was just about to go to the GWX manuel to see if they have any suggestions. I got killed on my first run last game. (during wartime, Sep 39)

08-02-09, 07:26 PM	#5
KaleunBier Bosun Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 63 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Well I have kind of a cheap idea and that is to sail dangerously close to either shore as long as periscope depth will allow and make a ruckus so that the DDs continue to hear and chase me and see if they follow me to the shore and run aground I've never done this before and it seems like it'd be very time consuming always making manual course corrections and stuff.

08-02-09, 08:09 PM	#7
KaleunBier Bosun Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 63 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Lol! Not to change the subject or anything but your name brings me to my next question...do the numerous task forces I see cruising around in GWX have a purpose? I mean historically speaking?

08-02-09, 11:08 PM	#9
Brer Rabbit Briar Patch Runner Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 95 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Stop at the Spanish gas station When I ship out of the Fatherland bound for the Atlantic I patrol as much as I can and put int Thalia or the Portuguese refuel ship, later I would stop at the french Ports. This gives me two advantages, one I can make long patrols in each direction. I am able to also add new qualifications to my crew replace and any fired torps. STAY OUT OF THE CHANNEL good Hunting

08-02-09, 11:31 PM	#10
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Go through the Kanal during the prewar shakedown cruise and make that your last visit!! __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

08-02-09, 11:35 PM	#11
kz26 Watch Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 27 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I'm with Brag on this one...avoid it if you can. __________________ That missed! Fire Tube 2!

08-03-09, 12:09 AM	#12
ps249 Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	the channel is not that deep so beware of crash dives

08-03-09, 02:27 AM	#13
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	By the end of 1939 the U-Wafe had given up almost all operations except minelaying in the channel. The combination of shallow water, high volumes of anti-submarine forces and both enemy and friendly mines made it an extremely dangerous place to operate a German submarine. About your fuel usage, I assume you are in a Type II, but even with that you should be able to operate in the Western approaches for a short period as long as you are careful. Never cruise at above 7-8kts, only use full speed when overtaking or chasing down targets and only for short periods. As long as you are careful you shouldn't need to teleport.

08-03-09, 02:08 PM	#15
Zilch Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 118 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I haven't had a problem in the Channel yet, except the odd patrol here and there. Is this due to my time frame? Currently December, 1940.

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