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Old 08-24-08, 01:33 PM   #1
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No one will listen to this opinion of mine. I don't care, cuz I'm sick of hearing all the nonsense that infects every game-centered forum in the 'net, and I simply have to declare that: Just because a game isn't designed to suit every one of your personal whims doesn't make it a bad piece of software.

No game will ever be complete realistic. Furthermore, what's 'realistic' to you might be tedious and boring to others, or *gasp* less authentic than the game you say 'lacks realism'.

Entertainment is the objective of any game. If it doesn't entertain, if it's not capable of entertaining, it doesn't matter how realistic or pretty it is.

Not doing things the same way another game in the same category did doesn't make a new game 'not an RPG' or 'not an FPS', or not an anything.

You don't know jack about a game you haven't played.

Just cuz it was made for a console doesn't make it bad. Just cuz it was made for a PC doesn't make it bad.

You not personally liking it doesn't even make it bad, it just means you didn't like it. I've loved games that objectively, were pretty weak. I've been bored to death by games that, looking at them with a clear eye, were very well done. Learn to see things objectively...or shut the hell up.

I could continue to vent here, but...if I fuss too much, it makes me tired, and I've expressed my opinion clearly enough, I think.
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Old 08-24-08, 02:50 PM   #2
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Just because a game isn't designed to suit every one of your personal whims doesn't make it a bad piece of software.
Yes it does.
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Old 08-24-08, 02:59 PM   #3
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This a reaction to my "RTS games are neither RT, nor Strategy" post?

You can certainly say that a game is not a FPS game definitively. If the player sees his avatar from a god's-eye view, it's NOT an FPS, period. "First person" means you see what a person sees. Any additional tools that do not simulate the information that person has, also changes the FP part of the equation. Doesn't mean it's bad, but it is categorically not "FP."

Same thing with "Real Time." I can look at the second had of the clock here, and real time means real time. 2X time is not real time. If some game has a facility being built while a "real time" battle takes place, and it goes from nothing to a gun emplacement in time to participate in a 10 minute long battle, not real time, sorry (unless real gun emplacements are built and ready to fire inside 10 minutes). Again, doesn't meant he game sucks, it's just not "real time."

I don't require games I like to be either, BTW, I just find the labels of them funny since they are in many cases flat out wrong.
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Old 08-24-08, 03:30 PM   #4
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As fas ar I am concerned, everyone is free to rant.

However, it seem you have not understood how annoying it is these days to constantly see bought 5 star reviews and raving comments by people who by the hype. About new games that cater more and more for, - in order to avoid more insulting terms - the "casual gamer".

In other words: No one attacks you if you rave about a game, so let people with a more negative outlook have their word too. Why is it that everytime you post something negative in a thread about a new game people tend to single you out as a naysayer, while stupid mindless raving goes?
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Old 08-24-08, 03:35 PM   #5
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You don't know jack about a game you haven't played.
First of all this an insult to our intelligence.

Secondly if it were true, everyone should stfu until a game has been released. This includes not only negative opinions but OMG LOOK AT TEH GRAFX THIS GAEM WILL BE AWESUM as well.
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Old 08-24-08, 03:51 PM   #6
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Or just not get worked up about other people's opinions. This is after all the internet, why not worry about the things you can control.

Lets keep this civil and above bar folks.


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Old 08-24-08, 03:59 PM   #7
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LOL. Now it will be Captain Vlad who gets attacked for being negative. Complaining about people complaining makes you also complain in the eyes of people, and people who complain are always easy targets.
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Old 08-24-08, 06:12 PM   #8
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and people who complain are always easy targets.
People who speak up in general are targets ( good and the not so much ), comes with
the territory.

I am just asking it remain above bar.


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You must be refering to this thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...294#post931294
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That was different, someone was really butthurt there, then got a deserved riposte.
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But in general I agree, I also find it often unbearable when other peoples opionion differ from mine
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Old 08-24-08, 09:28 PM   #12
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Wasn't reacting to anyone particular, actually. Just the general 'If it's not exactly the way I want it to be, it'll suck, and I know this before I've even played the game' attitude I've seen over and over and over again over the past couple of months...well, it's gotten to me a little.

Just a little sick of hearing 'well that's going to be a crap game' when no one's even got to play the game yet, and tired of hearing lamentations of 'it'll suck because they didn't do it my way' when your way might not make a very good game.

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First of all this an insult to our intelligence.
If you choose to percieve it that way. I see it more as a condemnation of a jaded attitude in regard to anything that doesn't fit expectations or preconceptions.
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First of all this an insult to our intelligence.
If you choose to percieve it that way. I see it more as a condemnation of a jaded attitude in regard to anything that doesn't fit expectations or preconceptions.
But that's subjective. The problem here is not so much concrete expectations but rather annoyance about dumbing down of each and every aspect until games literally play themselves.
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Look what you've done now Vlad :rotfl:
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...Just cuz it was made for a console doesn't make it bad. ....
Not an absolute guarantee, you are correct, but an almost guarantee for sure it is.

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