when should i remove the deckgun?

[gross14]

hello my fellow kaleuns

Do anyone of y'all know when i should remove my deckgun so that i can buy a larger conningtower? I have a VIIc in late -44. I would like to keep my gun but all the larger ships have bigger or more guns than me but the RAF and USAAF is killing me with their plans:rotfl:

[Grayson02sept1980]

you sure you want to rebuild your U-Boat into a flak cruiser? :rotfl:

[bigboywooly]

Historically around 43 they were removed as not much use any more
Some kept them but not many

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

when should i remove the deckgun?

NEVER!!!!

[Brag]

Mohr, I figured you would say that! Where have you been, we've missed you.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Originally Posted by Brag

Mohr, I figured you would say that! Where have you been, we've missed you.

i have been here.... and ofcourse i would say that, the deck gun is part of my life

@gross14: no it wont, with or without the speed stays the same

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

NEVER!!!!

1++++++

NEVER.

[gross14]

ok thanks for the answers. But if i remove my gun will the sub travel faster submerged?

[danurve]

Originally Posted by gross14

ok thanks for the answers. But if i remove my gun will the sub travel faster submerged?

No.

From what I understand posted by experienced modders and players alike, that is not something the game engine can do.

[fat jez]

Originally Posted by danurve

No.

From what I understand posted by experienced modders and players alike, that is not something the game engine can do.

Aren't the U-boat speeds governable by a config file somewhere? Obviously this couldn't be an "on the fly" change in game, but isn't it an option in SH Commander to remove the deck gun? Would it be possible for the max submerged speed to be tweaked by a knot or two when removing the deck gun?

Apologies if I'm talking rubbish.

Cheers,
Stephen

[Tessa]

Originally Posted by fat jez

Aren't the U-boat speeds governable by a config file somewhere? Obviously this couldn't be an "on the fly" change in game, but isn't it an option in SH Commander to remove the deck gun? Would it be possible for the max submerged speed to be tweaked by a knot or two when removing the deck gun?

Apologies if I'm talking rubbish.

Cheers,
Stephen

At the speeds that the boats travel removing the deck gun wouldn't have a noticealbe effect until you reach extremely high speeds. Underwater between the deck gun and the tower the gun will create a ripple that would cause enough drag to slow the boat down; though it would need to be at speeds faster than a u-boat can travel, at least 200-300 mph for the force between the two to cause enough of a force to drag caused by the ripple to slow the boat down. It isn't tell you get to the type XVII's that the boats become streamlines for underwater speed. Prior to that you could compare the common type VII's to a regular Dogfighter (like a P-51 or Spitfire) to a swept wing (like the Mess. 262) that were aerodynamic and designed to fly at (relatively) very high speeds.

[STEED]

Get rid of out right less detection and more room in your U-Boat to build another toilet.

[Tessa]

Originally Posted by gross14

hello my fellow kaleuns

Do anyone of y'all know when i should remove my deckgun so that i can buy a larger conningtower? I have a VIIc in late -44. I would like to keep my gun but all the larger ships have bigger or more guns than me but the RAF and USAAF is killing me with their plans:rotfl:

The IXD2's are bout the only boats that can put up serious amount of flak and take out those pesky planes. Later in the war they either get pissed off that you're downing too many of their bombers or stubborn and start sending multiple squadrons after you. If you can down the planes best it does for you is buy you time to submerge and change course so they won't find anything when they come back looking.

[papa_smurf]

As im currently just starting in 41 with a type IX/C, i'll never remove my deck gun. But once you start getting armed merchants, its pointless trying to out shoot them as your likely to come out worse off.
(I know, as i tried to to take on a Liberty ship with my deck gun - not a good result for me )