SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-15-08, 11:41 AM   #1
elite_hunter_sh3
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,376
Downloads: 6
Uploads: 0
Default Obama's crazy "end poverty" bill....

Sen. Barack Obama, perhaps giving America a preview of priorities he would pursue if elected president, is rejoicing over the Senate committee passage of a plan that could end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars in an attempt to reduce poverty in other nations.

The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, "We can – and must – make … a priority," said Obama, a co-sponsor.

It would demand that the president develop "and implement" a policy to "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief" and other programs.

When word about what appears to be a massive new spending program started getting out, the reaction was immediate.

"It's not our job to cut global poverty," said one commenter on a Yahoo news forum. "These people need to learn how to fish themselves. If we keep throwing them fish, the fish will rot."

READ ON: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=56405

ok, the US is broke.. and this fool wants to give 845 BILLION Dollars to broke countries....
at this rate he isnt even president, and he already wants to drive the US into the ground...hooray
elite_hunter_sh3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 11:49 AM   #2
Tchocky
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,874
Downloads: 6
Uploads: 0
Default

Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.

Anyway, this is only legislating what the US has already committed to.

http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/press/07.htm
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tchocky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 11:53 AM   #3
SUBMAN1
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 11,866
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchocky
Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.
But being a cosponser does make it his bill! :p

-S
__________________
SUBMAN1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 11:57 AM   #4
Tchocky
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,874
Downloads: 6
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchocky
Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.
But being a cosponser does make it his bill! :p
Ah crap.

*reads it again*

Still though, US has already pledged to this.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tchocky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 12:03 PM   #5
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchocky
Quote:
Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchocky
Applauding the passage of a bill doesn't make it his bill.
But being a cosponser does make it his bill! :p
Ah crap.

*reads it again*

Still though, US has already pledged to this.
Nobody including Congress or the President can pledge the US to something that violates the constitution.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 12:04 PM   #6
Tchocky
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,874
Downloads: 6
Uploads: 0
Default

Does it violate the Constitution?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tchocky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 02:47 PM   #7
Letum
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: York - UK
Posts: 6,079
Downloads: 43
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
"It's not our job to cut global poverty," said one commenter on a Yahoo news forum. "These people need to learn how to fish themselves. If we keep throwing them fish, the fish will rot."
Not really the most insightful and indepth analysis of the global economy is it?
__________________
Letum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 10:48 PM   #8
baggygreen
Sea Lord
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top)
Posts: 1,880
Downloads: 7
Uploads: 0
Default

Yeh.... i woulda thought itd be much better to spend all that cash on the poverty-stricken folk of the US first...
baggygreen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 10:55 PM   #9
Stealth Hunter
Silent Hunter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Y'ha-Nthlei
Posts: 4,262
Downloads: 19
Uploads: 0
Default

I get tired of hearing the same **** everyday. It's always, "Let's just talk this subject to death, and do nothing," with people on the news and in Congress. I'm getting sick of it. Day in and day out, that's all that happens, it seems like.
Stealth Hunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 11:11 PM   #10
The WosMan
Watch Officer
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: OH
Posts: 332
Downloads: 88
Uploads: 0
Default

It absolutely violates the constitution because it would allow for a global tax imposed on US citizens run by the United Nations (and the guy at the UN said he would like it to be a carbon tax...cough cough global warming crowd). This violates the Article I powers of the legislative branch. Congress has the power to lay and collect taxes for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. This means that not only can they not legislate this against us because it does not provide for the United States, it puts the control of this money into the hands of the UN. It completely violates the constitution and our sovereignty. The constitution does not allow the handing over of our authority to global bodies. This bill, the treaty of the sea bill, all of them go against everything my country was founded on. If anything, this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Senator Obama has no business serving as POTUS. The founding fathers are spinning in their graves right now.
The WosMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-08, 11:26 PM   #11
Sea Demon
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,552
Downloads: 33
Uploads: 0
Default

Good post Wosman. This is only one of many reasons why Obama is unfit to lead. This seems to be more of the same old "let's throw US taxpayer money at em'" with no accountability, and no concern over results. This approach has been tried before, many time in fact. It doesn't work, time for something else. And lets try to do something that doesn't hand control of US taxpayer money over to the corrupt UN.
Sea Demon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-08, 02:07 AM   #12
nikimcbee
Fleet Admiral
 
nikimcbee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Patroling the Slot.
Posts: 17,952
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
I get tired of hearing the same **** everyday. It's always, "Let's just talk this subject to death, and do nothing," with people on the news and in Congress. I'm getting sick of it. Day in and day out, that's all that happens, it seems like.

...that's why they're in the Senate It's just speech club from high school, just over paid .
__________________
nikimcbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-08, 07:51 AM   #13
Tchocky
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,874
Downloads: 6
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baggygreen
Yeh.... i woulda thought itd be much better to spend all that cash on the poverty-stricken folk of the US first...
That's governement intervention in the free market!

If you're poor, it's nobody's fault but yours!

(am I doing it right?)

@ WosMan - I think the nasteist part of that era was the idea that the governement could legislate for "Un-American activities", a definition so vague it expands to "whoever I disagree with".
And so what if someone is a communist?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tchocky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-08, 07:54 AM   #14
Konovalov
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK
Posts: 2,811
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchocky
Quote:
Originally Posted by baggygreen
Yeh.... i woulda thought itd be much better to spend all that cash on the poverty-stricken folk of the US first...
That's governement intervention in the free market!

If you're poor, it's nobody's fault but yours!

(am I doing it right?)


That sounds like the usual script around these parts along with 'commie pinko' yada yada.
__________________
"In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)
Konovalov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-08, 03:52 PM   #15
StarFox
Engineer
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Denver, Colorado, USA
Posts: 216
Downloads: 59
Uploads: 0
Default

Its better then spending the same ammount of mony in Iraq....at least it has a purpose
__________________


Devoted fan of the SS United States, America's Flagship! I dream of her second life....

StarFox is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.