Fuel leak explained

donut · 12-27-07, 05:12 PM

Fuel tank damage,or limited range due to fuel,is in fact battery damage.

Explanation:

Quote:

Duci
Posted Thu December 27 2007 13:31The mechanics of range vs speed is limited by the game engine really. You could for instance, change the numbers in the sub file to be 15,000 NM @ 12 kts. or even 14 kts. (which was probably "2 engine speed")

Now there is ONE bug that I know of that can reduce your range if your not observant. If your batteries get damaged, the game wont automatically turn off recharge mode when the charge is complete. If your not observant and don't catch this, you'll swear you have a fuel leak or something.

So turn charging off on damaged batteries charging. Too get more range.

I did not catch this,or we would have made Midway,the only indicator is the battries won't take a full charge,& the damage screen shows no battery damage.

donut · 12-27-07, 07:49 PM

& here,I thought it was a good find

tater · 12-27-07, 08:01 PM

It is. Very useful.

tater

Fincuan · 12-27-07, 08:20 PM

I've been saying this every time someone complains about the fuel leak and it's been ignored so far, so it's nice to see someone bring it up again

Snuffy · 12-27-07, 08:39 PM

Aye maties, keep a sharp eye on that battery meter ...

If'n ya'll be chargin batteries for longer than a day, you've likely got battery damage. They will only charge to a certain percentage, but since they never reach full charge the AI doesn't know enough to turn the chargers off.

Always check!

Old Dog · 12-27-07, 10:05 PM

Thank you gentlemen for posting (and re-posting) this. I had just never noticed mention of it.
I wonder if this effect figures in to some of the, "I'm 500 nm short of Midway and out of gas" threads. :hmm:

Old Dog

-Pv- · 12-27-07, 10:20 PM

I agree it's a good idea to help players be more aware of the battery. This and not turning back while they still have the fuel remaining they used to get to where they are.
-Pv-

donut · 12-28-07, 01:05 AM

Range @ current speed,& range to end works correctly with battery charging off.

If you can't get 100% charge,you will get error.

donut · 12-28-07, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog

Thank you gentlemen for posting (and re-posting) this. I had just never noticed mention of it.
I wonder if this effect figures in to some of the, "I'm 500 nm short of Midway and out of gas" threads. :hmm:

Old Dog

We loaded the old save,& made it to Midway

Zero Niner · 12-28-07, 01:58 AM

Useful tip, thanks.
So in a nutshell, if batteries are damaged (indicated by not reaching 100% charge over many hours or days) the workaround in-game is to turn off battery charging to achieve max fuel efficiency?

Snuffy · 12-28-07, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero Niner

Useful tip, thanks.
So in a nutshell, if batteries are damaged (indicated by not reaching 100% charge over many hours or days) the workaround in-game is to turn off battery charging to achieve max fuel efficiency?

That would be correct 09 ... always be a checkin the battery meter!
Shut down the charging if you don't gain any battery after a day or two.

Rockin Robbins · 12-28-07, 08:27 AM

Sometimes people don't respond because they've just been caught with their pants down around their knees and didn't realize it until you called their attention to it. It takes a few moments to resume a respectable aspect.

But embarrassment aside, you're onto something even more common than the holed fuel tank problem. Those guys smiling over there in the corner pretending they knew all this? Yeah, they were standing around with their pants down showing off those bright red bikini underwear their wives make 'em wear.

That was real stylish, guys! Hope your crews didn't notice or it's gonna be a real long cruise!

Old Dog · 12-30-07, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donut

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog

Thank you gentlemen for posting (and re-posting) this. I had just never noticed mention of it.
I wonder if this effect figures in to some of the, "I'm 500 nm short of Midway and out of gas" threads. :hmm:

Old Dog

We loaded the old save,& made it to Midway

A-HA !! Every now and then I get one right !
Glad you got home okay Cap'n Donut.
Cooperate and Graduate !

Old Dog

dmlavan · 01-17-08, 11:07 AM

Thanks Donut - I just discovered this last night. Had a running gun duel w/ 4 Marus, took some damage but sank all three. My navigator reported I had plenty of fuel left to make it back to Pearl, but we didn't even make it within 1,000nm of Midway. Found your post this morning - knew my batteries had been damaged, but wish I had thought to check the recharge

Wilcke · 01-17-08, 11:13 AM

...what no proper damage reports...what kind of crew do I have?:rotfl:

12-27-07, 07:49 PM	#2
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Say what ! Everyone knew this ? & here,I thought it was a good find Last edited by donut; 12-28-07 at 01:18 AM.

12-27-07, 08:39 PM	#5
Snuffy XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 420 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Aye maties, keep a sharp eye on that battery meter ... If'n ya'll be chargin batteries for longer than a day, you've likely got battery damage. They will only charge to a certain percentage, but since they never reach full charge the AI doesn't know enough to turn the chargers off. Always check! __________________ ----------------- Snuffy!

12-28-07, 01:05 AM	#8
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Also I found out Range @ current speed,& range to end works correctly with battery charging off.If you can't get 100% charge,you will get error.

12-28-07, 08:27 AM	#12
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	They're just bluffing! Sometimes people don't respond because they've just been caught with their pants down around their knees and didn't realize it until you called their attention to it. It takes a few moments to resume a respectable aspect. But embarrassment aside, you're onto something even more common than the holed fuel tank problem. Those guys smiling over there in the corner pretending they knew all this? Yeah, they were standing around with their pants down showing off those bright red bikini underwear their wives make 'em wear. That was real stylish, guys! Hope your crews didn't notice or it's gonna be a real long cruise! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

01-17-08, 11:13 AM	#15
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	...what no proper damage reports...what kind of crew do I have?:rotfl: __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

12-27-07, 08:01 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It is. Very useful. tater

12-27-07, 08:20 PM	#4
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I've been saying this every time someone complains about the fuel leak and it's been ignored so far, so it's nice to see someone bring it up again

12-27-07, 10:05 PM	#6
Old Dog Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MA. US Posts: 112 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 1	Thank you gentlemen for posting (and re-posting) this. I had just never noticed mention of it. I wonder if this effect figures in to some of the, "I'm 500 nm short of Midway and out of gas" threads. :hmm: Old Dog

12-27-07, 10:20 PM	#7
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I agree it's a good idea to help players be more aware of the battery. This and not turning back while they still have the fuel remaining they used to get to where they are. -Pv-

12-28-07, 01:58 AM	#10
Zero Niner Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,033 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Useful tip, thanks. So in a nutshell, if batteries are damaged (indicated by not reaching 100% charge over many hours or days) the workaround in-game is to turn off battery charging to achieve max fuel efficiency?

01-17-08, 11:07 AM	#14
dmlavan Weps Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 351 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Thanks Donut - I just discovered this last night. Had a running gun duel w/ 4 Marus, took some damage but sank all three. My navigator reported I had plenty of fuel left to make it back to Pearl, but we didn't even make it within 1,000nm of Midway. Found your post this morning - knew my batteries had been damaged, but wish I had thought to check the recharge

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