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View Poll Results: SDK or No SDK?
Yes 105 86.07%
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Old 05-12-07, 03:26 PM   #1
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Default Petition to S.C.S for a SDK

What you guys think? Should we ask S.C.S to release a SDK?
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Old 05-12-07, 04:21 PM   #2
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Go for it, but it will never happen, for the same reason that we aren't "allowed" to make our own units.
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Old 05-12-07, 04:21 PM   #3
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We can ask SCS for a lot of things but this is something we most likely wont get ... why? Because DW is just an offspin of SCS product for its goverment customers. They make money by creating platforms and stuff for them. Guess what they don't want ... that those customers can get their new platforms and whatnot for free.

But hey ... it never hurts to ask - just dont hold your breath.

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Old 05-12-07, 05:08 PM   #4
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They won't make it anyway. Such thing needs documentation and support. And it will expose bugs not exposed yet.
It is more expensive then not releasing anything, that's sure
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Old 05-12-07, 05:34 PM   #5
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Would be nice, but... You might as well ask for the plans to the real platforms for all you are likely get anywhere LOL.

As OneShot points out, they'll not want to feed the hand that will clearly bite it!
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Old 05-12-07, 06:45 PM   #6
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Just keep up the votes up then we band together to force S.C.S to release it.
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Old 05-12-07, 07:42 PM   #7
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Just keep up the votes up then we band together to force S.C.S to release it.
How are u goin to force S.C.S to release a SDK?
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Old 05-12-07, 07:49 PM   #8
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Just keep up the votes up then we band together to force S.C.S to release it.
How are u goin to force S.C.S to release a SDK?
By getting a lot of support from these DW guys and say yes and band together for a big crowd to release a SDK.
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Old 05-12-07, 08:16 PM   #9
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How are u goin to force S.C.S to release a SDK?
By getting a lot of support from these DW guys and say yes and band together for a big crowd to release a SDK.
I’m surprised at how little people know about business, let alone the business for making software. Companies will not give something away for free when doing it can make them money. Especially if they are already charging for it in one of their other forms of buiness.

If it's counter productive to how S.C.S does it's business, whether that is on the government side or commercial, they won’t do it. It won’t matter if you have the entire forum signing “yes” or not. It won't matter if they all are kicking or screaming about it either.

90% of S.C.S business is government contract work, and they use the game engine for DW in government simulations. They also charge good money to add platforms and other things to the engine per contract basis. If they release the SDK, they’d be giving away one of their capabilities to make money for their business.
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Old 05-12-07, 08:32 PM   #10
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What is SDK?

A realistic DW version for the gov? If we petition now they probably will release it to the public in 50 years. Fingers crossed. I hope i'll live to that age.....

Yea i want it to be released to the public. But we've got to be more realistic abt what we ask...
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Old 05-12-07, 08:44 PM   #11
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What is SDK?

A realistic DW version for the gov? If we petition now they probably will release it to the public in 50 years. Fingers crossed. I hope i'll live to that age.....

Yea i want it to be released to the public. But we've got to be more realistic abt what we ask...
SDK stands for Software Development Kit. It’s typically a set of development tools that allow modders and programmers to make changes within the framework of an application or game. Take Half Life for example. Releasing the SDK for Half Life made it possible for the creation of Counter-Strike. Without the SDK, 90% of what needed to be done to create Counter-Strike would not have been possible.
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Old 05-13-07, 01:28 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Lagger123987
Just keep up the votes up then we band together to force S.C.S to release it.
How are u goin to force S.C.S to release a SDK?
By getting a lot of support from these DW guys and say yes and band together for a big crowd to release a SDK.
This didn't work, so getting a few votes here ........................... :hmm:

http://www.subsim.com/ssr/fixmy688.html
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Old 05-13-07, 02:29 PM   #13
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I wish they did what the Steel Beasts people do: after they make a platform for a military customer, include it in the game via patches!

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Old 05-13-07, 03:23 PM   #14
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I wish they did what the Steel Beasts people do: after they make a platform for a military customer, include it in the game via patches!
That is very true. SBPro PE and the team behind it is the role model when it comes to developing and supporting niche simulations for public use, me thinks. And tanks are almost as cool as subs...

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Old 05-13-07, 07:07 PM   #15
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I voted no simply because it is something you will never get. It is pretty clear that they have a tech base that they are not willing to give up - why? Because suppose they decide to make a Ticonderoga sim based on this engine, yet someone has already done it? Basically, an SDK is taking money out of their pockets.

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