Americans still neutral?

Heffalump · 07-22-07, 06:51 AM

Playing GWX. 1941.

On 9th December I received a radio message that restrictions agains American shipping were lifted. More targets!

On the 10th I came across an American merchant. Am preparing to attack but I notice that the American cities are still green (neutral) and war doesn't officially begin till the 11th.

Theoretically I should be able to attack here. But (in game terms) will I be accused of sinking a neutral??

STEED · 07-22-07, 07:13 AM

Sink it.

papa_smurf · 07-22-07, 09:44 AM

Go for glory and sink that ship

Kongo Otto · 07-22-07, 09:47 AM

German declaration of war to the USA was on 11th December 1941.
US declaration of war to Germany,as an reaction to the german declaration
on Dec 12th 1941.
So you would sink an neutral before Dec 11th 1941.

Morts · 07-22-07, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

German declaration of war to the USA was on 11th December 1941.
US declaration of war to Germany,as an reaction to the german declaration
on Dec 12th 1941.
So you would sink an neutral before Dec 11th 1941.

for the germans IRL i belive it was considered sinking a hostile
and for the americans a neutral

Kpt. Lehmann · 07-22-07, 10:35 AM

Further factor to consider.

In SH3, ships that spawn and get underway before their home-country alignment changes... may retain their original alignment until they reach their destination and disappear.

I cannot recall if this is corrected by saving/exitting the game and restarting.

gord96 · 07-22-07, 10:52 AM

i started a patrol on Dec 8th and US was green. December 11th came and all US ports were red.

Jimbuna · 07-22-07, 11:47 AM

Vessels are neutral until ports/cities etc. turn red. Sink a neutral on the eve of such a significant change and your considered a hostile/renegade for the next 24 hours in any event

Penelope_Grey · 07-22-07, 11:51 AM

Ah well... may as well get hung for a sheep as a lamb.

Heffalump · 07-22-07, 12:57 PM

In the end I put a torpedo into him. Gotta do what you gotta do.

You guys were right though. Looks like it goes down officially as a neutral.

Jimbuna · 07-22-07, 02:32 PM

Nuremburg awaits

TarJak · 07-22-07, 09:35 PM

No guts no glory. Fill yer boots matey and sink the bugger!

07-22-07, 06:51 AM	#1
Heffalump A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Americans still neutral? Playing GWX. 1941. On 9th December I received a radio message that restrictions agains American shipping were lifted. More targets! On the 10th I came across an American merchant. Am preparing to attack but I notice that the American cities are still green (neutral) and war doesn't officially begin till the 11th. Theoretically I should be able to attack here. But (in game terms) will I be accused of sinking a neutral??

07-22-07, 07:13 AM	#2
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Sink it. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-22-07, 10:35 AM	#6
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Further factor to consider. In SH3, ships that spawn and get underway before their home-country alignment changes... may retain their original alignment until they reach their destination and disappear. I cannot recall if this is corrected by saving/exitting the game and restarting. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

07-22-07, 11:47 AM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,491 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Vessels are neutral until ports/cities etc. turn red. Sink a neutral on the eve of such a significant change and your considered a hostile/renegade for the next 24 hours in any event __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-22-07, 11:51 AM	#9
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ah well... may as well get hung for a sheep as a lamb. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

07-22-07, 09:44 AM	#3
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Go for glory and sink that ship

07-22-07, 09:47 AM	#4
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	German declaration of war to the USA was on 11th December 1941. US declaration of war to Germany,as an reaction to the german declaration on Dec 12th 1941. So you would sink an neutral before Dec 11th 1941.

07-22-07, 10:52 AM	#7
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	i started a patrol on Dec 8th and US was green. December 11th came and all US ports were red.

07-22-07, 12:57 PM	#10
Heffalump A-ganger Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	In the end I put a torpedo into him. Gotta do what you gotta do. You guys were right though. Looks like it goes down officially as a neutral.

07-22-07, 02:32 PM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,491 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Nuremburg awaits __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-22-07, 09:35 PM	#12
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	No guts no glory. Fill yer boots matey and sink the bugger!

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