Catfish
04-14-06, 06:25 AM
Hello,
installed SH3, patch 1.4b, GW mod, NYGM mod and unified career.
I'm really impressed, graphics and the boat's modeling is more like the real thing now (only that VIIBs are known to have dived to 220 meters, does not seem to be possible here?).
But there are some small problems, or better observations:
I'm in November 1939, east of BE 61, and ran into a convoy. This convoy is heavily protected by Black Swan frigates, Flower class corvettes and other various destroyers ?
1. Historically there were not yet convoys in october 1939
2. There were no Black Swan and Flower class in october 1939
3. If there were convoys in 1939, they would not have been escorted yet
Now the question ...
Is this a SH3 vanilla problem, or do the mods add something like that? Thinking back to when SH3 came out i cannot remember escorted convoys, with ship classes that appeared much later, in 1939 ? But maybe i do not remember this correctly.
Another thing is that the damage model does not seem to include breaking bulkheads and ruptured steam pipes, as well as sinking ships due to impact shock fractures - those ships are now unnecessarily hard to sink - flooding because of impact holes was not the only reason why ships sank. I saw a C3 hit by four torpedoes going on with seven knots for hours, its bow under water. No captain would have done that, stopping and setting out lifeboats would be the appropriate reaction. Running at 7 knots with the bow underwater would have sunk that ship in minutes, its engines drilling the ship into the sea, and the speed pressing the flooded compartment water on the bulkheads making them collapse. My general impression is that a part of the otherwise great mods is a bit too "overmodelled" in a way that it was a bit easier in reality than here - realism should not make it unbelievable hard, at least if correct modeling of history is the mod's goal.
Anyway all this adds some uncertainty that makes the whole sim much more fun to play, thank you very much.
Greetings,
Catfish
edit:
Just read some of the posts, here - damage model still under construction as i see, sorry. :88)
installed SH3, patch 1.4b, GW mod, NYGM mod and unified career.
I'm really impressed, graphics and the boat's modeling is more like the real thing now (only that VIIBs are known to have dived to 220 meters, does not seem to be possible here?).
But there are some small problems, or better observations:
I'm in November 1939, east of BE 61, and ran into a convoy. This convoy is heavily protected by Black Swan frigates, Flower class corvettes and other various destroyers ?
1. Historically there were not yet convoys in october 1939
2. There were no Black Swan and Flower class in october 1939
3. If there were convoys in 1939, they would not have been escorted yet
Now the question ...
Is this a SH3 vanilla problem, or do the mods add something like that? Thinking back to when SH3 came out i cannot remember escorted convoys, with ship classes that appeared much later, in 1939 ? But maybe i do not remember this correctly.
Another thing is that the damage model does not seem to include breaking bulkheads and ruptured steam pipes, as well as sinking ships due to impact shock fractures - those ships are now unnecessarily hard to sink - flooding because of impact holes was not the only reason why ships sank. I saw a C3 hit by four torpedoes going on with seven knots for hours, its bow under water. No captain would have done that, stopping and setting out lifeboats would be the appropriate reaction. Running at 7 knots with the bow underwater would have sunk that ship in minutes, its engines drilling the ship into the sea, and the speed pressing the flooded compartment water on the bulkheads making them collapse. My general impression is that a part of the otherwise great mods is a bit too "overmodelled" in a way that it was a bit easier in reality than here - realism should not make it unbelievable hard, at least if correct modeling of history is the mod's goal.
Anyway all this adds some uncertainty that makes the whole sim much more fun to play, thank you very much.
Greetings,
Catfish
edit:
Just read some of the posts, here - damage model still under construction as i see, sorry. :88)