Having problems installing patches

[robj250]

:-? Hi: I have had problems when I installed the patches [mods]. I am a 70 yo male with Multiple Sclerosis and have problems thinking properly sometimes. I installed all the patches and my SH3 crashed. I lost all my patrols, medals, etc. I had to repair the program and start over again. I would really like to install the patches but I'm not sure in what order to install them. I would really like to install the following: CA's Instrument patch, RealUboat 1.45, Merchant Variety Pack, Torpedo Loading Screen, 13owman's Readable dial mod, Military Mods 1 2 and 3, Improved smoke, 400m Depth Gauge, T2 Torpedo Range, HiRes Flag textures, SH3 Sonar Room sound, Full Vulnerability Manual, Moon Phases, Augies64' English and Flag Regnition SH3 Voice Command, Readable Compass, Navigation Course Solver, 360° Bearing plotter, SH3 Low contrast RM and map drawing tools, Hat Emblems, Uniform Mod. However, not all have instructions for me to foll on what to do or how to install them. Do I have to be in port to install? No I am having problems returning to base from my patrol area. It will not give me that option. Since I had to start over, I am now on patrol 7 but can't get back to Kiel. I really do require some assistance installing these patches. I really love the game and want to improve it a little. If anyone wants to contact me directly, leave a note here and I will give you my email address on MSN. Thanks a bunch guys. Robert

[Boris]

Your SH3 was destroyed?

Did you use Jonesoft generic mod enabler? If you did I can't see how you could have destroyed your SH3 installation as you can undo any changes.

You can get jsgme here if you haven't already done so:
http://216.235.153.31/u-boot/SH3must/

Also... all you patrols and medals etc are stored in your my documents folder, so its strange that you lost them.

Have you used any mods before? Installing mods over the wrong version of the game often results in a crash. You can get the latest patch (1.4b) here:
http://216.235.153.31/u-boot/SH3Patches/

You have a lot of mods to install. Generally it's always best to use jsgme and install the largest mod, working your way down to smaller fixes.

If you want to make things alot easier for yourself, you can download the GreyWolves Supermod, which includes the majority of the kind of mods you want to install and more, all in one package:
http://mpgweb.de/01/
Be warned, it's big!

Any extra mods you still need can go over the top.

Any more troubles just ask...

[robj250]

Thank you for responding. I am not sure how I lost my patrols. I know they are stored in My Documents, but they were gone. Perhaps that occurred as I kept trying to load the program and it kept crashing. I coul d not send the error reports to Microsoft. I got, "program not responding" all the time when the error report came up. I think I upgraded to version 1.4b, but after I went to "add/remove" to uninstall, it allowed me to "repair" so I did that. The program worked and I was able to load my old patrol 4 and started from there. I played all afternoon today to get to patrol 8 from Kiel. I upgraded by sub to type VIIB. Can I still use the mods? I will get the thing you mentioned but I still do not know how to tell if I have 1.4b. Thanks again for responding.

[robj250]

I just left Kiel with a VIIB sub to AN55, should I finish the patrol and go back to Kiel before I install anything? :oops: I don't know if I still am using v 1.4b, how can I tell? You must think me stupid. Thanks for replying. Robert

[HW3]

Yes, you should be in port before you install any mod or patch, since some of them change files that will cause your game to crash during a current patrol. To tell if you are using 1.4b or not, look in the lower right corner of the screen on the main menu when the sim loads, it should say there what version you are using.

[robj250]

Thanks you sir for responding. I most certainly will wait until I return to base. The patch I am waiting to install in the largest [as I was told to load the largest one first] patch called Merchant Variety Pack. However, as I have meantioned in a previous post, I am unsure how to install it. It is present in the MOD file in Silent Hunter III on my XP. It does not give me clear directions on what to do with the two folders it built - one called Silent Hunter III and the other one I forget, sorry. But, thanks for you direction. Robert. :oops:

[robj250]

Well, as I was loading the game late this afternoon, I checked every screen that came up and finally, when the career screen came up, down at the bottom right it said 1.4, so I guess I didn't upgrade to 1.4b. I now have and while trying to install it, it found two files that did not belong, so I deleted them. Just in case you are interested, the files were: \data\library\torpedo.sim and \data\menu\cfg\maps.cfg. Once I removed these, 1.4b installed. I am sorry for all the trouble. Now I will start it to see if it says 1.4b on the bottom. Thanks guys. That is probably why I messed up terribly when trying to install those mods. Please forgive me. Robert. :oops: I told you I didn't thinkl well. On Jan 1 2004 at 5 AM I underwent an emergency operation in a hospital 200 km away to have 7 problems corrected in my bowel. I died on the operating table 4 times and was in ICU connected to a breathing machine connected to my trachea for a long time. Since then I have not been able to think straight sometimes. Hey, I didn't tell you that for sympathy, just to let you know why I have trouble thinking and reacting. The best to you all for trying to help me. Robert :D

[robj250]

Well, here is what happened. As the main menu said 1.4 I installed 1.4b. When I tried to start my mission the game would not respond. Had to turn computer off as it locked up. Soooo. Now I am getting tired of these problems; I uninstalled the complete game and told it to keep my saved patrols. After I uninstalled it I checked my saved games in My Documents. It said I had only 7 patrols. Well, okay. I reinstalled SH3, re-registered it and as soon as I was done there, I immediately installed 1.4b because I was in port anyway. Okay. :-? I started the game, had the old opening screen back. The main menu still said 1.4 but I kept going and went to saved games in my career. Woopie :D there was patrol 8 in kiel after mission. So I started patrol 9. I still had the VIIB sub. The game started to load while I kept my fingers crossed. It loaded. Now I have to start patrol again to AN55, no problem as long as the game is working. I will have to start over again to install the mod in Silent Hunter folder and work from there, testing the game after I do that. Keep your fingers crossed. I have to finish patrol 9 before I can come back to port. I will then install that JSGM or whatever it is called. See ya later.. Robert

[robj250]

Have made the following posts:

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=50786

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=50784

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=483150#483150

So now I am really confused. Robert :oops:

[HW3]

The main screen will only say 1.4 but, you do have 1.4b installed because there is no 1.4 patch. Patch 1.4 was pulled before even being put out and 1.4b was substituted for it but, the main screen was not changed to read 1.4b, just 1.4.

[robj250]

Thany you HW3. But I am having problems installing the subsim patches. I person in one of the links in the previous post, said I needed an Enabler. Yesterday, I installed Course Solver, Torpedo Range, English Flag RecManual, Improved Smoke and Readable dials. My SH3 would not load [as mentioned in the above links] so I removed the above mods and SH3 now works. I don't know which one of them caused the SH3 to crash, so I'm holding off until I get some advise on which order to install the majority of mods offered by subsim. :) Any help from anyone without telling me to change it to Commander is welcome. Not everyone realizes that I have a thinking problem because of my 2nd chance at life on Jan 1, 2004. I appreciate you getting back to me. Robert

[HW3]

The newest version of the Generic Mod Enabler is available at this site http://members.iinet.net.au/~jscones/software/products.html

[HW3]

I should have explained what it does. You put it in your main SHIII file, start it once and it makes a folder there titled Mods, you then put your unzipped mods in the Mods folder and start the Generic Mod Enabler(JSGME) and you will see your mods listed in the left column, You click on the mod you want enabled then click on the little arrow in the middle that points to the right column and your mod will be installed. At the same time a backup of all files modified/replaced is made and stored so, if or when you uninstall the mod, the origional files are returned to the sim where they first came from. JSGME also tells you when you are going to overwrite another mod file allowing you to decide whether you really want to do so before doing it.

[robj250]

I had already installed JSGME where it was supposed to be installed. However, I did not know I should have put the unzipped mods into the Mod folder and run JSGME again. Is that what I am supposed to do? Robert

[HW3]

Yes, that is what you should do. When you start it, all of the inactive mods will be shown in the left hand column by name. Select one by clicking on it, then find the arrow that looks like this > and click it, Your mod should now show up in the right hand column and be active.

[robj250]

Hi: I am in St. Nazire now, but I am still a Lieutenant Jr grade, when do I get promoted? One thing I noticed but didn't pay much attention to it before but the angle on the bow is reporting wrong. It said the ship I was after was 57° port, but the ship was on the right [starboard] side of my sub. Okay, as I said, I am in port now, can I go ahead and start installing the Merchant Variety Pack? There are 3 of them but I will do only one at a time if you say it is okay to use JSGME to install the first mod of that Merchant pack. Please get back to me as soon as you can because I play SH3 every day to keep me occupied so I don't go stir-crazy. :D

[zzsteven]

The AOB is as if you were standing on the merchants bridge. It is the angle in relation to your boat from the merchants perspective.

zz

[robj250]

Thank you for clearing that up for me. I appreciate it as I was a little confused. Robert.

[robj250]

Well, I put the 3 mods for the Merchant Variety Pak on the mod folder and run JSGME and all it did was to show those files in the left side so I move them to the right side of the panel. Did it activate those mods and are they in the game now? Robert :-?

[Konovalov]

Well, I put the 3 mods for the Merchant Variety Pak on the mod folder and run JSGME and all it did was to show those files in the left side so I move them to the right side of the panel. Did it activate those mods and are they in the game now? Robert :-?

When you move them from the left hand side to the right hand sde it does activate them. And simply when you want to remove these mods it is just a case of the opposite. Move them from the right hand side (enabled), tothe left hand side (un-enaled). It is as easy as that which is why the JSGME is so great for people out there not as in the know as others around the SHIII forums. JSGME along with SHIII Commander are essential in my book as a starting point for improving your SHIII experience. :up:

[robj250]

Hi Konovalov; Thanks. I started the game again and everything worked. I am stationed at St. Nazire now. Question: My crew get fatigued real fast, should I chanhe to coefficients as recommended by Church? in the post "The Fatigue Issue .. Possible adjustments" Also, I would like to install the patch CA's UBoat Instrument Patch v1, Do you know anything about this patch. I just put it in the MOD folder and run JSGME again? Robert.

[robj250]

I notice that most have icons [pictures below their post] How do I get one in my posts? Robert

[robj250]

:) After Patrol 13 where nothing much happened I returned to base and "activated" CA-Instrument Patch, RUb1.45 and Agiet4's English & Flag Recognition Mod. Loaded up Patrol 14 and it loaded properly. I don't know for sure whether these mods installed correctly, but I used JSGME to activate them. Is anyone going to answer my question about how to put a symbol in my signature???

[zzsteven]

:) After Patrol 13 where nothing much happened I returned to base and "activated" CA-Instrument Patch, RUb1.45 and Agiet4's English & Flag Recognition Mod. Loaded up Patrol 14 and it loaded properly. I don't know for sure whether these mods installed correctly, but I used JSGME to activate them. Is anyone going to answer my question about how to put a symbol in my signature???

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/faq.php#16
The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) link is in the upper right corner of this page; it can answer many questions.

zz

[robj250]

I followed the instructions for adding a photo to my signature. Not sure it worked.

[robj250]

I am happy to report that the dials have been fixed using CA's UBoat Instrument patch; the Recognition Manual has been changed using Augie's English & Flag Recognition Mod. Cannot tell whether the RealUboat 1.45 has changed the look of my sub yet.
The other question I asked a while back is when using the TDC, I do not know what the 'Pilot' does??? Robert

[zzsteven]

And you now have a sig at the bottom of your post. Well done. :)

zz

[robj250]

Thanks zzSteve, It took me a while for figure it out and how to get it there, but success.

However, I am confused about a dial that shows up when using the TDC. It is called a 'pilot' and has two positions. I do NOT know what it is for and how to use it? :oops:

Does anyone know?

[robj250]

In SH3 I am now on my 14th patrol NW of Ireland but I have not received a promotion yet. I have received many medals. :D

But I am still a Lieutentant jr. :(

Does anyone know how many patrols I have to do before I receive a promotion from my present rank [in the game]?

[zzsteven]

Promotions are based on reknown. For the first promotion you need to have 5000 reknown, it's a bit stiff in my opinion.

zz

[robj250]

It is too stiff. In the game Aces of the Deep, I received promotions sooner. That was a good game.

Do you know anything about what the 'Pilot' is when the TDC screen is selected??? What it does - it has two choices and I don't know what those choices do??

Thanks.

[robj250]

I was on patrol and I was ordered to attack a large convoy so I went after it. It was pitch back out and I fired all my darn torpedoes at a V&W Destroyer. I have no idea why they missed so I will have to start that patrol over again. But I did find out what the 'Pistol' was for. The "I" means Impact and the "M" means magnetic. Sorry I was a pest about this topic. Will try to find that Convoy again. Robert.

[zzsteven]

I was on patrol and I was ordered to attack a large convoy so I went after it. It was pitch back out and I fired all my darn torpedoes at a V&W Destroyer. I have no idea why they missed so I will have to start that patrol over again. But I did find out what the 'Pistol' was for. The "I" means Impact and the "M" means magnetic. Sorry I was a pest about this topic. Will try to find that Convoy again. Robert.

ohhh Pistol, I kept looking and looking for something labled Pilot and couldn't find a thing. :lol:

zz

[robj250]

Yeppers :D It is on the TDC control panel. hehe :up:

[robj250]

Hi zzsteven. How do you get what I said in that insert box in your reply??? :yep:

[zzsteven]

Hi zzsteven. How do you get what I said in that insert box in your reply??? :yep:

In the upper right corner of your post is a button labled "Quote", click it.

zz

[robj250]

Hi zzsteven. How do you get what I said in that insert box in your reply??? :yep:

In the upper right corner of your post is a button labled "Quote", click it.

zz
:oops: I don't think it is going to woek???

[robj250]

[quote=robj250]Hi zzsteven. How do you get what I said in that insert box in your reply??? :yep:

In the upper right corner of your post is a button labled "Quote", click it.

zz
:oops: I hope it is going to work???

[zzsteven]

[quote=robj250]Hi zzsteven. How do you get what I said in that insert box in your reply??? :yep:

In the upper right corner of your post is a button labled "Quote", click it.

zz
:oops: I hope it is going to work???

Yep, it works. :D

zz