UK Politics Thread part II [Archive] - Page 7

Jimbuna

07-20-24, 07:09 AM

Cooper calls Leeds disorder 'audacious criminality'

The home secretary has condemned violent disorder that broke out on the streets of Leeds, describing it as "audacious criminality".

Five people have been arrested after trouble flared in the Harehills area on Thursday when officers responded to a child protection issue.

Videos on social media showed crowds of people in the streets and a bus was later set on fire and a police car flipped over.

Speaking at the city’s Elland Road police station Yvette Cooper said those responsible should feel the "full force of the law".

Ms Cooper said: "I've been talking to West Yorkshire Police officers and also to local community leaders about the action they are taking in response to these unacceptable scenes of disorder and criminality that we saw last night.

"Many people will have seen on social media some of the really shocking scenes of audacious criminality and that’s why it’s really important that those individuals face the full force of the law and that’s one of the issues police have been talking to me about this evening."

Asked about footage circulating online which appeared to show police officers dragging a child out of a house and the anger in the community, Ms Cooper said: "Well, I think what we saw last night was the scenes of criminality with the bus being set alight, with the attack on the police cars.

"And we've also seen some issues around misinformation about the police having to respond to a complex child protection incident."

West Yorkshire Police said officers had been called to the area at about 17:00 BST on Thursday after social workers reported being met with hostility when dealing with a child protection matter.

At the scene officers then came under attack themselves as they helped social care staff to safety.

The force said "pockets of disorder" had broken out in the aftermath, with footage shared online showing a police vehicle being attacked and later rolled on to its side.

As the troubled escalated large crowds gathered in nearby Harehills Road and several fires were set.

Assistant Chief Constable Pat Twiggs said officers were working at “significant pace” to identify and apprehend those responsible.

He said there would be an increased police presence in the area over the coming days and urged people with information to come forward.

“I would urge anyone who has information about those involved in the disorder to contact our officers,” he said.

“Equally, to those who are responsible for the criminality seen in Harehills, our investigation will be relentless and I urge you to do the right thing and hand yourself in to the police while you have the opportunity to do so.

“I also issue the same message to the parents of those young people involved, to make contact with the police now.”

Meanwhile, Leeds City Council has promised to carry out an “urgent review” of the incident which is said to have sparked Thursday’s disorder.

In a joint statement issued on behalf of the authority and the Romanian and Roma Community it said: “The council has agreed to undertake an urgent review of the case and work with Romanian and Roma-led organisations, the churches, and the Honorary Consulate of Romania and other family representatives for the best interests of the family and wider Roma community.”

They went on to appeal to “all communities to remain calm” to avoid a repeat of Thursday’s “distressing scenes”.

The statement said: “Local people are devastated by what happened, and we want to ensure there is no repeat of the distressing scenes we saw.

"Such actions will have a long lasting and harmful impact on our community.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqv5y44p31no

Dargo

07-20-24, 03:57 PM

Seems J.D. Vance might have a point

His comments on the UK becoming an “Islamist country” were a direct criticism of Labour’s approach to immigration, and he also said that the Tories “have got to get a handle on this”.

Of course the typical left wing euro response is to scoff as they aimlessly walk about with their head in the clouds. But I’d suggest you read these words below. Then read them again.So 6.0% of the total population in the United Kingdom is considered a majority... Sure.

Moonlight

07-20-24, 05:08 PM

So 6.0% of the total population in the United Kingdom is considered a majority... Sure.

You might scoff old boy but that 6.0% carries the weight of hundreds of MPs behind it, and that doesn't include the thousands of Mayors, Police, Councillors, Human Rights Lawyers and all the support network behind all that.

Time is on their side. :O:

Moonlight

07-21-24, 09:46 AM

Treasury minister Tulip Siddiq apologises after breaking MP rules

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/treasury-minister-tulip-siddiq-apologises-after-breaking-mp-rules/ar-BB1qmkxJ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=e9da4f00d2604df9a2a001e55589e64b&ei=11#comments

That didn't take long did it?, just a few weeks in and she comes out with that old line (It's just an error), phew she had me worried for a min there!. :haha:

Jimbuna

07-21-24, 10:50 AM

Jeremy Hunt accuses Chancellor of preparing for major tax rises

Labour is talking 'nonsense' about the dire state of the economy in order to justify tax rises, former chancellor Jeremy Hunt claimed today.

Mr Hunt lashed out at his successor in No11 Rachel Reeves over claims he and other senior government figures have made about the fragility of UK PLC.

He questioned claims by Ms Reeves and others that Labour had inherited the worst situation since the Second World War, pointing to inflation that has fallen to 2 per cent and improving growth.

The Chancellor used her own appearance on the BBC's Sunday Morning with Laura Kuenssberg to say that the Tories had left the economy in a mess.

And on Sky, Treasury Minister James Murray said what they had learned since July 4 confirmed their claim of being handed 'the worst set of circumstances since the Second World War'.

But in his own appearance on the BBC Mr Hunt, the shadow chancellor, branded the claims 'nonsense'.

'You only need to look at the last time a government changed hands between parties in 2010. Compared to then, inflation is nearly half what it was, then we had markets collapsing now we have the fastest growth in the G7, we have unemployment nearly half what it was then,' he said.

'It's a very transformed picture, and I think the reason that she's doing this is that she wants to lay the ground for tax rises.

'(It's) perfectly legitimate for a new government to come in and say they want to spend more, tax more - every Labour government in history has done that - but she should have been honest about that before the election.'

It came as Ms Reeves signalled she is prepared to give thousands of teachers, NHS staff and police officers above-inflation pay rises.

The new Labour chancellor warned there was 'a cost' to not giving public sector workers pay increases in terms of strikes and recruitment problems.

It came after reports suggested independent pay review bodies have recommended a 5.5 per cent rise for teachers and around 1.3 million NHS staff. This pay rise is in line with that given to the private sector.

Inflation currently sits at 2 per cent, although it was at a 40-year high of 11.1 per cent in October 2022.

The headline CPI was unchanged from May, and bang on the Bank of England's target level.

However, analysts had pencilled in a marginal fall, and price rises in the services sector remained stubbornly high at 5.7 per cent.

Experts pointed out that the biggest upward pressure came from restaurants and hotels, with the 'global phenomenon' pop star Taylor Swift touring in the UK during the month.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/jeremy-hunt-accuses-chancellor-of-preparing-for-major-tax-rises/ar-BB1qmwz9?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=0e0c1657b8724bdd98c466bc7bd53040&ei=28

Jimbuna

07-21-24, 12:02 PM

Huge migration crackdown as Labour plans raids on car washes and salons :haha:

Labour is planning a summer of action against illegal immigrants as it hires 1,000 new staff to speed up deportations.

Home Secretary Yvette Cooper is set to order high profile raids on car washes, beauty salons, nail bars and other black market employers which often use illegal workers to prop up their businesses.

The raids will focus on migrants from countries like Vietnam, which make up a large proportion of those illegally crossing the Channel but are not likely to be granted genuine asylum.

According to reports from The Sun, Labour is planning to deploy 1,000 more staff to 'fast track' deportations.

Writing in The Sun on Sunday, Yvette Cooper said: "We cannot pretend everything is OK.

"We have directed Immigration Enforcement to intensify their operations over the summer... and we are drawing up plans for fast track decisions and returns for safe countries.
"Most people in this country want to see a properly controlled and managed asylum system."

It comes after Keir Starmer vowed to 'smash the criminal gangs', which drive migrants into the UK on Channel crossings, after the ailing Rwanda plan was immediately scrapped.

The new programme is intended to "increase returns of those with no right to be here and to make sure rules are respected and enforced" and will see raids on businesses suspected of employing illegal workers ramped up.

Ms Cooper added: "We have directed Immigration Enforcement to intensify their operations over the summer, with a focus on employers who are fuelling the trade of criminal gangs by exploiting and facilitating illegal working here in the UK - including in car washes and in the beauty sector.

"And we are drawing up new plans for fast track decisions and returns for safe countries."

Labour has made border security one of its top priorities in government and has already taken steps to establish the Border Security Command promised in its manifesto.

Sir Keir Starmer also used this week's European Political Community summit to discuss migration with fellow European leaders, and signalled he would be open to considering offshore processing arrangements similar to that between Italy and Albania.

But he has been criticised by Conservatives for scrapping the Rwanda scheme on his first day in office, with opponents arguing it provided a necessary deterrent to those seeking to make the crossing.

In her article, Ms Cooper acknowledged that tackling small boats would take time and require "hard graft not sticking plasters".

She said: "We've inherited a difficult summer with record numbers of crossings already this year, and we know tackling the problem will take steady hard graft not gimmicks."

At least 15,489 people have crossed the Channel in small boats so far this year, with further arrivals on Saturday likely to have pushed that number well above 15,500.

Recent good weather has seen a surge in crossings over the past two weeks, with the number of people making the journey in 2024 still on course to be well up on 2023 and around the same level as the previous record year, 2022.

The crossing has also continued to prove fatal, with two deaths recorded last week and four deaths in the week before that.

Ms Cooper said: "Most people in this country want to see a properly controlled and managed asylum system, where Britain does its bit to help those fleeing conflict and persecution, but where those who have no right to be in the country are swiftly removed.

"For far too long under the Conservatives, we have had just costly chaos - that has to change now."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/huge-migration-crackdown-as-labour-plans-raids-on-car-washes-and-salons/ar-BB1qkMfc?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=f9760451c3294bb68f90b1b11b37a010&ei=9

Jimbuna

07-22-24, 10:22 AM

Keir Starmer set to make first £3bn U-turn as PM in face of mass King's Speech rebellion

The Prime Minister has hinted he may U-turn in his support for the two-child benefit cap, amid a major parliamentary rebellion spearheaded by his hard-Left MPs.

Sir Keir indicated for the first time that he would consider scrapping the cap, despite saying numerous times during the election that he would not owing to the cost of doing so.

Ditching the policy, which would cost around £3billion, has been championed by trade unions and left-wing MPs like Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn as they say it will raise children out of poverty.

Sir Keir's hint that the welfare limit may be ditched came after Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson said it would be possible as part of a new review into tackling child poverty.
Asked about the thorny political issue on Sky News, Ms Phillipson said: "This was not a policy that a Labour government introduced, we are aware of the evidence around this and as part of the review that we will conduct in the months to come we will consider that as one of a number of ways.

"We will look at all levers in terms of how we can lift children out of poverty."

Sir Keir appeared to back her during his speech at Farnborough Airshow, promising to "make sure that the strategy covers all bases to drive down child poverty".

However this was plunged into confusion shortly after, when Sir Keir's official spokesman told journalists there has been no change in Labour's position on the policy.

Asked if the Government are preparing to u-turn, the spokesman said: "No. It's as the chancellor said yesterday, it's as the PM I think addressed this morning as well, the government has got a certain set of fiscal inheritance that it has to deal with".

"I think, as the chancellor said on the round yesterday, that they weren't going to make spending commitments without being able to say where the money was going to come from.

"But that doesn't mean that we can't take action to tackle child poverty."

On Sunday, Rachel Reeves told the BBC she could not pledge to scrap the cap without saying where the £3 billion annual cost "is going to come from".

Sir Keir's spokesman denied that Ms Phillips had misspoken when suggesting the policy could be ditched, adding: "Nothing's out of the scope of the taskforce".

Despite enjoying his post-election honeymoon period, the Prime Minister is under intense pressure to ditch the two-child benefit cap, with more than 100 MPs backing various amendments to the King's Speech calling for it to be scrapped.

Among them are Mother of the House Diane Abbott, along with fellow Labour MPs Dawn Butler, John McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn.

At the weekend Canterbury MP Rosie Duffield blasted it as "a heinous piece of legislation", accusing the limit of legislating "against women's autonomy over their own bodies".

However Sir Keir could risk public wrath were he to abandon the limit. According to the most recent YouGov polling, six ten voters want to keep it, versus 28% supporting its retention.

A majority of all parties' voters, including Labour and LibDems, want it maintained, while 81% of Conservative voters object to its abolition.

Just 18-24-year-olds say the limit should be ditched, by 46% to 32%.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-set-to-make-first-3bn-u-turn-as-pm-in-face-of-mass-king-s-speech-rebellion/ar-BB1qqfhe?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=717912b9a02b48ff994c59c375532cf3&ei=27

MGR1

07-22-24, 04:15 PM

If I remember correctly, Reform are also in favour of the cap being scrapped.

Although it won't be entirely for the same reasons as the Labour Left, Greens and SNP......

But of course we are dealing with a lot of stereotypes based on class and ethnicity. Not all of which are completely correct, nor entirely exaggerated.

Mike.:hmmm:

Jimbuna

07-23-24, 05:27 AM

Precisely :yep:

Jimbuna

07-23-24, 12:20 PM

Tory leadership race triggered as Rishi Sunak formally steps down

Rishi Sunak has formally stepped down as leader of the Conservative Party sparking the start of the process to elect a new leader.

He will remain acting leader of the party until a successor is appointed on Saturday, November 2.

The former Prime Minister said: “It’s in the national interest for us to have a smooth and orderly transition to a new Leader of the Opposition so I will stay in post until November 2nd, and the result of our leadership election.

“This will allow our party to fulfil its role as the official opposition professionally and effectively.

“I believe this is what is best for the Conservative Party and, most importantly, our country.”

He added: “It would be inappropriate for me to make any comment about the leadership campaign or candidates.

“I am confident that this timetable decided by the Party Board and the 1922 Committee will allow for a thoughtful, professional and respectful contest.”

Candidates will need a proposer, a seconder and eight nominations to proceed to the ballot.

Nominations open Wednesday 24th July at 7pm and will close at 2.30pm on Monday 29th July 2024.

The parliamentary party will narrow down to four candidates, who will make their case to Conservative Party members at the Conservative Party Conference in Birmingham in the autumn.

The parliamentary party will then whittle it down to the final two candidates, who will then be subject to a vote by Conservative Party members.

The ballot of Party members will be conducted via secure online voting.

The ballot will close at 5pm on Thursday 31st October.

The result will be announced on Saturday 2nd November.

Only members, who have been a member for 90 days or more prior to the ballot closing, and have been an active member at the time of the nominations for candidates opening, will be eligible to vote. The rules were announced following meetings of the 1922 Executive Committee and the Conservative Party Board.

Harrow East MP Bob Blackman, Chairman of the 1922 Committee of Backbench Tory MPs, said: “Following discussions between the PartyBoard and the 1922 executive, the timetable for the election of a new leader of the Conservative Party has been agreed.

“Over August, candidates will be able to engage with the voluntary party before in September, the parliamentary party selects 4 candidates to go to conference.

“The parliamentary party will then pick the 2 candidates who go forward to the members ballot with the new leader elected on the 2nd of November.

“I am determined that our party will have a respectful and thorough leadership debate. I believe that this timetable will allow for this.”

He also stressed: “While there are significant debates to be had about our party’s future, we must remember that the country, and our members, want to see us engaged in proper debate not personal attacks.

“I am confident that this process will allow for this. I am delighted that Rishi Sunak will remain in post until the 2nd of November and the election of a new leader.

“This will allow for a smooth and orderly process.”

Richard Fuller MP, Chairman of the Conservative Party, said: “This process has party members at its heart.

“I very much welcome Rishi Sunak’s decision to remain as leader until the election of a new leader thereby enabling this full engagement of candidates with members.

“Party conference will be a great opportunity for our hard working volunteers to meet the leading candidates and make their views known to MPs before the final two candidates are put to a final vote by Party members.

“Party members will be the voice of this leadership campaign.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-leadership-race-triggered-as-rishi-sunak-formally-steps-down/ar-BB1qr5lR?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3c234361e25b4e9b8eb42644ce6e2980&ei=28

Moonlight

07-23-24, 04:33 PM

Labour suspends MPs who defied Government in two-child benefit cap vote

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/labour-suspends-mps-who-defied-government-in-two-child-benefit-cap-vote/ar-BB1qvbzj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=9750e5039b444cb899c31c46f03e5759&ei=7

I'm in favour of scrapping this two child benefit cap and increasing it to 3, but, I would keep it as it is until the country could afford it, maybe those 7 MPs should resign their position until they've grown up a bit more, because at the moment they're showing a complete failure of judgement over this benefit cap issue.

What does need looking into first, is the currant below who can go on 5 holidays a year while being on universal credit and disability benefits, it's bleeding scandalous that they're taking full advantage of our overly generous benefits system, something needs doing about it and quick.

HOLIDAY HANDOUTS I’m on 3 types of benefits but go on 5 holidays a year – people call me ‘criminal’ but I deserve a break like everyone

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/29380645/benefits-go-five-holidays-year-deserve-it/

Jimbuna

07-24-24, 05:59 AM

Gasps in Commons as Yvette Cooper reveals true cost of Tory Rwanda deal

Gasps were heard in the Commons as Yvette Cooper revealed the true cost of the Tory Rwanda deal.

The home secretary revealed to MPs that the controversial deportation scheme cost Britain £700 million, despite only four volunteers being sent to Kigali.

Addressing MPs on Tuesday (23 July), Ms Cooper branded the policy the “most shocking waste of taxpayer money I have ever seen”.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/gasps-in-commons-as-yvette-cooper-reveals-true-cost-of-tory-rwanda-deal/ar-BB1qxnDw?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=abe638d7dfa44efbb9a830081f9aee6e&ei=79

Moonlight

07-24-24, 09:55 AM

^if those claims are anything like these claims are then you can take them with a pinch of salt.

Labour have made blood-curdling claims about the situation they inherited from the Conservatives... Here's the TRUTH

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13665667/The-truth-Labour-blood-curdling-situation-Conservatives.html

Never underestimate the governments propensity to tell an untruth, there, I said it, the Labour government can lie through their back teeth just as good as a Tory one can. :haha:

Jimbuna

07-24-24, 11:17 AM

I tend not to rate either above the other.

Moonlight

07-25-24, 05:36 AM

Manchester airport: Armed police officer SUSPENDED after being filmed kicking and stamping on men - as 'victims' break silence and hundreds gather outside station accusing force of racism with MORE demos planned for tonight

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13671145/manchester-airport-police-officer-suspended-stamping-head.html#comments

Law & Order
The Police reacted with firm action in the face of violence. They didn't know if the perpetrators were armed with knives, or guns, or were carrying explosives in a crowded area. If I'd been that officer I'd have kicked him until he couldn't piss standing up, these mass yob events that follow arrests of these Migrants must be stopped in their tracks too - arrest and fine heavily or if need be give them a good kicking too.

Politicians and the higher ups in the Police service should keep their bleeding noses out of what the rank and file Police officers have to do to maintain law and order on the streets of the UK.

"Three officers were assaulted, one female officer suffered a broken nose and the other officers were forced to the ground and suffered injuries which required hospital treatment".
As far as I'm concerned that's enough reasonable grounds to use whatever force they deemed necessary to get the situation under control, case closed.

Jimbuna

07-25-24, 09:55 AM

There is also another aspect to take into consideration.....If the Officer feared he may have been disarmed then all measures of restraint are put into play.

Would people prefer to read the headlines that an officer was disarmed and many onlookers were killed or seriously injured as a result?

Jimbuna

07-26-24, 11:35 AM

Reeves set to reveal public finance shortfall of billions

The new chancellor is set to use an audit of public spending to make claims of a "black hole" in the government finances worth tens of billions of pounds.

Rachel Reeves said she would give a statement to Parliament on Monday showing “honesty” about the scale of the challenge faced by the new Labour government.

She vowed to "fix the mess we inherited" but would not confirm speculation that the gap in the public finances stood at more than £20bn per year.

The Conservative Party accused the new government of "peddling nonsense".

Labour will suggest the Conservatives left various crucial public services unfunded in areas from public pay to prisons.

"On Monday, the British public are finally going to see the true scale of the damage the Conservatives have done to the public finances," a Labour source said.

"They spent taxpayers’ money like no tomorrow because they knew someone else would have to pick up the bill. It now falls to Labour to fix the foundations of our economy and that work has already begun."

However, Conservative shadow chancellor Jeremy Hunt said Labour's claims were "nothing but a fabrication" and accused the government of "laying the ground for tax rises".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cydv2v3170eo

Jimbuna

07-27-24, 09:17 AM

'One word change shows Labour are utterly opposed to cracking down on illegal migration'

The Home Office has confirmed illegal migration is no more. Done. Gone.

No more need to worry about illegal migration, as within only a few weeks the new Labour Home Office team have got to work and decreed its abolition from the nation.

From now on, there is no such thing as illegal migration into Sir Keir Starmer’s Britain, there is only legal migration and “irregular” migration.

GB News readers will note my deliberate sarcasm.

A change of word as part of a rebranding exercise is not going to stop a single boat, smash a gang or bring order at the border.

There has also been no change to S24 of the Immigration Act 1971, which states: “A person who is not a British citizen shall be guilty of an offence……. if contrary to this Act he knowingly enters the United Kingdom in breach of a deportation order or without leave;”.
Those arriving in a small boat or hidden in a truck are visibly aware they are doing so without leave.

Whilst changing a word might seem harmless, it is worth considering what lies behind this rebranding and what is says about future approaches to illegal migration.

It is not simply someone at a keyboard in the Home Office deciding to use a different word in a tweet, the changed description will have been carefully considered as part of a handling strategy for the summer.

By changing the word to irregular, Labour can spend time arguing with Nigel Farage, the public and the Conservatives, that no one is “illegal”, rather their arrival was “irregular”.

Try to side-track every serious attempt at debate on stopping the boats into the cul-de-sac of what word to use in the description.

A row about a word means time spent on this not, for example, outlining how a border security command is in reality any different to the small boat's operation command created under the last Government.

The word change also signals a nod towards the way many Labour MPs have for years consistently opposed attempts to crack down on illegal migration to this country.

Some have argued almost constantly for open borders or large-scale resettlement schemes.

Although often whilst not being quite so keen for their own local council to be offering the pro-rate number of settlement spaces their national demands would require.

Being “irregular”, rather than “illegal” allows an excuse when approving large numbers of asylum claims. Announcements of “speeding up” dealing with claims, will get some thinking this means lots of people will soon be on planes home.

The reality will be very different: Lots of people who arrived as illegal migrants getting a quick rubber-stamped approval.

Yet Labour Ministers will quickly state they were not “illegal”, just “irregular” in their arrival.

The only thing which has been consistent about Labour’s approach to migration has been inconsistency.

In opposition, they could get away with one day calling for new visas for various recruitment problems, then the next day bemoaning that employers were not offering good enough packages to key workers for people to take those jobs up.

They could argue for a large number of new refugee visas, yet not then have to require Labour Councils to offer the number of settlement places this would entail.

Changing the word used won’t itself produce a busy summer in the channel.

But the change in attitude of viewing it as just irregular, not an offence or a crime, combined with scrapping the Rwanda Plan and rubber stamping lots of approvals, will mean a busy summer in the Channel ahead for the people traffickers.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/one-word-change-shows-labour-are-utterly-opposed-to-cracking-down-on-illegal-migration-kevin-foster/ar-BB1qIlvr?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f18a20eae8004d77a03abae0b78dde70&ei=63

Moonlight

07-29-24, 08:00 AM

Controversial TikTok lawyer quits representing man kicked by cop at Manchester airport - after footage revealed what happened BEFORE he was arrested

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13683183/Controversial-TikTok-lawyer-steps-representing-family-man-kicked-head-fire-police-officer-Manchester-airport-dramatic-footage-revealed-happened-BEFORE.html

"The new footage of the officer in question and two female colleagues coming under attack shows 'we need to protect the protectors', the Greater Manchester Police Federation has said."

Instead of watching less than half a video and making it out that these two migrants were innocent victims of Police Brutality, perhaps the Police Federation and the Police higher ups should wait for more details to be released before making their usual kneejerk reactions.
The Mayor (Andy Burnham) had already said there was more to this violent incident than the original video portrayed, but our Police higher ups entered the fray like the "Avenging Squealing Pigs" that they are and pointed the finger at the wrong people.
I couldn't resist that one. :O:

Moonlight

07-30-24, 01:11 AM

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is accused of undertaking a ‘cruel’ raid on pensioners after axing the winter fuel allowance for ten million older people

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13685941/chancellor-Rachel-Reeves-cruel-raid-pensioners-winter-fuel-allowance.html

She takes winter fuel payments off pensioners to give a £10billion inflation-busting pay rise for the public sector, including a 22 per cent hike over two years for striking junior doctors.
Ms Reeves claimed the raid was needed to help fill a £22billion 'black hole' in the public finances left behind by the last Conservative government.
Really?, you're talking bollocks Rachel, half of that 'black hole' was accounted for by Ms Reeves's £9.4billion commitment to fund inflation-busting pay rises for six million public sector workers.

It's official then, Rachel Reeves is a Currant, she has to appease her Union Paymasters somehow and, when they start doing an Oliver Twist impression again she'll have to give them even more cash.

Being in hoc to the Unions will cost the Labour party in the end, for her next trick she'll screw the Taxpayers, this isn't Reeves's doing, this is the Unions flexing their 1970's muscles again. :haha:

Rachel Reeves claims she has to plug what she called a £22 billion hole in public spending and put the blame squarely on the Tories... Here's the TRUTH

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13685863/Rachel-Reeves-claims-plug-called-22-billion-hole-public-spending-blame-squarely-Tories-Heres-TRUTH.html

Reeves has screwed the pensioners this week who'll be next I wonder?.
I can guarantee that it won't be the Migrant Scum, even though they're costing the taxpayers £6.5 billion a year and then there's the Foreign Aid Budget, that's more than £14 billion a year as well.
That's £20 billion already, and lets not forget all the Migrants who currently reside in the Prison Hotel system, plus all these Migrants claiming disability benefits, they must be costing us somewhere around £40 billion a year.

I wonder if she'll do anything about that?, no they won't, they need the Migrant votes you see. :O:

Jimbuna

07-30-24, 09:03 AM

She may next come after the triple-lock.

Moonlight

07-30-24, 09:49 AM

Yes she probably will, we'll know soon enough. I'm a pensioner in September, I don't get any government benefits or Council Tax relief so I'm expecting to be hit hard by these Labour Wankers.

I can just imagine the Treasury Office whooping with joy as they take money from the white people and give it straight to these Migrant Scum. :o

mapuc

07-30-24, 10:09 AM

From what I understand the Tories have chosen 7 candidate to become leader of said party.

My question is-Can anyone of these 7 bring back the glory of Tories ?

Markus

Rockstar

07-30-24, 03:26 PM

So how are things going in Southport? Heard the peasants are running the police out of town and setting police vans on fire.

Also I hear two more little children died from their stab wounds bringing the total to three dead. One more and you’ll have a mass murder on your hands.

Civil war must be around the corner, huh?

Moonlight

07-30-24, 05:16 PM

Jimbuna

07-31-24, 05:59 AM

It's looking like the triple lock is safe, well for now anyway.

Fury as Chancellor Rachel Reeves admits she WILL hike taxes in Budget

Rachel Reeves faced fury today after she confirmed that taxes will rise at the Budget on October 30.

The Chancellor admitted that the burden on Brits will rise as she blamed the Tories for leaving a £22billion black hole in the government books.

Labour has not said what could be hiked - but inheritance tax, pensions reliefs and capital gains look likely targets as Ms Reeves looks to raise over £10billion.

Keir Starmer has ruled out increasing the main rates of income tax, national insurance or VAT.

Ms Reeves told the News Agents podcast: 'I think that we will have to increase taxes in The Budget.'

Asked directly whether she could rule out cutting pension tax relief, she told LBC Radio: 'I'm not going to write a budget on this programme, but the commitments we made in our manifesto not to increase National Insurance, VAT or income tax and also the triple lock, our commitments in our manifesto, stand.
'We will stick by those. But there'll be more difficult decisions to come in the Budget because of the inheritance that we now face.'

Shadow chancellor Jeremy Hunt said: 'By refusing to take the difficult decisions needed, Rachel Reeves will do what she planned all along like every Labour Chancellor in history - raise your taxes.'

The Tories spent the election campaign warning that Labour would raise taxes and hammer pensioners.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/fury-as-chancellor-rachel-reeves-admits-she-will-hike-taxes-in-budget/ar-BB1qW5Ur?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=0b9f971cb9744c6792f7b8e02f6674a5&ei=13

Rockstar

07-31-24, 12:18 PM

No, there won't be a civil war, we're too British for that to happen, what needs to happen though is those Westminster Wankers need to own up and tell the population we got it wrong on Migration and it's affect on the UK. Nothing will get done about Migration until they admit responsibility, they're cowards though so that isn't going to happen any time soon, if ever.

Sooner or later there will be a proper British Riot, the population are not going to sit back for ever as another Migrant goes on a child killing spree, the trigger point hasn't been reached yet but if attacks like Southport keep happening it soon will be.

The civil war thing was just a good natured poke.

Seems like european countries are having similar problems major U.S. metro areas have when too many different people are packed together like sardines. I don’t think y’all have enough real estate to prevent friction between groups from happening especially with newly arrived immigrants.

The majority of the U.S. fairs well because we have a lot of breathing room. Hell, a state like Montana is the size of Germany but with a population of only a million people in it. Only time they make the news is when locals are involved in armed stand offs with the Federal government.

Michigan is a haven for Muslim immigrants and we don’t
hear much about them either because they and
everyone else has room to breathe

Jimbuna

07-31-24, 12:27 PM

Sooner or later there will be a proper British Riot, the population are not going to sit back for ever as another Migrant goes on a child killing spree, the trigger point hasn't been reached yet but if attacks like Southport keep happening it soon will be.

Like Toxteth in 1981...quite a sobering experience.

Moonlight

08-01-24, 09:36 AM

Southport stabbing suspect, 17, is named for the first time as he appears in court charged with murdering three little girls at Taylor Swift-themed dance class and harming 10 others with a 'curved kitchen knife'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13697675/southport-stabbing-suspect-named-appears-court-charged-murder.html

The boy, who was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents, is from the village of Banks, just outside Southport. So now we know for definite just why the authorities wanted his heritage kept under wraps. That's not all of it, they then release images of him when he was a little boy and not one of an almost 18 year old young black man.
The duplicity shown this last few days by the police, the government and the Media has been a deliberate ploy to avoid the truth at all costs, this evasiveness to answer basic questions has led to small riots breaking out in some parts of the country, they all obviously knew who this twat was and those rioters knew it as well.
That's why there was a total blackout of the attackers name and heritage and not this "He's a child himself" line that they're pedalling, No 15, 16 or 17 year old is a child, they're a young adult who should face the same justice as a 60 year old man would.
Welcome to the new norm from the Labour Party. Almost straight away the police denied it being a Terror attack, I say that's Hogwash, this twat has been planning this attack in his head or among other likeminded associates and therefore it's premeditated murder.

My solution to these kind of problems is a simple one, you've got some buckets, you've got the water and you've now got an head, start combining those three items.
My solution is a radical one I admit, but it's cheap and easy to implement, it removes the problem and it will empty the prison system pretty damned quick.
Now all you people who oppose this idea of mine can come up with your own idea, an unradical one by the way that's just as cost effective and with the same justice imparted as mine.

I'm waiting.

Jimbuna

08-01-24, 10:17 AM

Interest rates cut for first time in over four years

Interest rates have been cut for the first time in more than four years, but the Bank of England has warned people not to expect a sharp fall in borrowing costs in the coming months.

In a closely-run decision, rates were lowered to 5% from 5.25% on Thursday, marking the first cut since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.

Interest rates dictate the cost of borrowing set by High Street banks and money lenders for the likes of mortgages and credit cards.

Andrew Bailey, governor of the Bank of England, said policymakers needed "to make sure inflation stays low and be careful not to cut interest rates too quickly or by too much”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx72dpxy25do

Rockstar

08-01-24, 11:25 AM

Is the phrase ‘bloody hell’ appropriate here?

So, an immigrant or child of immigrant goes on a killing rampage and the government goes after phantom “far right” threat. Is this a speech to usher in a slew of censorship measures on Islamophobia?

Southport stabbing latest: Starmer will not allow far-Right to co-ordinate ‘summer of riots’

Updated 6 minutes ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/01/southport-attack-latest-arrest-riots/

The Prime Minister has said he will not allow the far-Right to co-ordinate a “summer of riots” after violence spread across the country over the Southport stabbings.

During a press conference to address the escalating disorder, Sir Keir Starmer was asked whether he was worried that Britain could be facing a “summer of riots”.

Sir Keir answered that the violence was a “coordinated” action by the far-Right, and said that the government would “ensure this is met with the most robust response in the coming days and weeks”.

The Prime Minister said: “It is obvious to me and obvious to anybody looking in that as far as the far-Right is concerned this is coordinated, this is deliberate, this is not a protest, it is a group of individuals that are absolutely bent on violence.”

He continued: “It’s important to pull together the senior police and law enforcement leaders as we did today to ensure that is met with the most robust response in the coming days and weeks.”

Moonlight

08-01-24, 04:03 PM

Keir Starmer vows to treat 'far right thugs' like football hooligans as he unveils new police crackdown in wake of chaotic rioting on Britain's streets following Southport knife attack... and PM warns social media bosses about violence 'whipped up online'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13698747/Keir-Starmer-announces-new-national-capability-police-forces-wake-Southport-rioting-PM-blasts-mindless-thugs-brought-chaos-Britains-streets.html

A typical kneejerk response from the Police Higher Ups & the Westminster Wankers, anybody who is not left of centre are classed as "Far Right", it's lazy reporting, and it's untrue.
Get a ******* grip of things Starmer and stop denying the bleeding obvious, instead of blaming these protesters for this rioting, why don't you blame that "Immigrant" murdering bastard for being the root cause of it all.
He won't do that though as it would affect his Terrorist Supporting voter base, it's not Chief Constables he should be talking to as they couldn't find their own ass, it's the rank and file police officers he should be listening to, maybe he will learn it one day, preferably before the country is set ablaze.

Jimbuna

08-02-24, 07:32 AM

Now you’ve stopped the winter fuel payments for pensioners and free tv licences for the over 75's there is no reason why you can’t stop all the handouts for the boat people.

Rockstar

08-02-24, 08:18 AM

Protests have been planned for more than 20 cities and towns in the UK this weekend against mass-immigration and crime.

In a press conference, PM Keir Starmer announced he will introduce new measures to stop violent protests from spreading

https://youtu.be/NCZfuGbh4aM

Farage says you need tuffer prison sentences for anyone caught carrying a knife. :har: :har: :har:

https://streamable.com/1udx3o?src=player-page-share

Moonlight

08-02-24, 08:35 AM

'We are watching you': Warning issued to rioters as Britain braces for summer of unrest amid 'concerted and co-ordinated' attempt to bring protests to nearly every major town and city

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13701417/Keir-Starmer-hard-right-thugs-summer-riots-Southport-stabbings.html

This is the best seven minutes of video I've seen since Starmer classed most of the nations citizens as Far Right.

Former Scotland Yard Detective, Peter Bleksley, comments on criticism that the Police Force are ‘bias’ when controlling riots, and responds to Starmer declaring enhanced police powers to intervene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZJy_Ny6a0E

Rockstar

08-02-24, 03:29 PM

Way the media is making it out all hell breaking loose over there.

mapuc

08-02-24, 04:05 PM

Dargo

08-02-24, 04:18 PM

Sound like your government is fighting the symptoms and not the disease itself.

MarkusThat the way of braunshirts in the street, only answer is aufs maul. I met this lot in the streets only effective way to destroy these fascist is confronting them Italian anti-fascist started this resulting in D-Day when allied anti-fascist did finish them.

Jimbuna

08-03-24, 05:47 AM

Just a pity the Riot Act was repealed in 1973.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/electionsvoting/newport-rising/1839-newp-ris/riot-act-1714/#:~:text=The%20Act%20allowed%20local%20officials,% 27reading%20the%20Riot%20Act%27.

Jimbuna

08-03-24, 06:38 AM

Moonlight

08-03-24, 06:56 AM

DAILY MAIL COMMENT: Grievances that lie behind these riots

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13704303/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Grievances-lie-riots.html

Rioting won't solve what's happened over the last 30 years but it does stick 2 fingers up to the Westminster Muppets, will it make a difference?, No it won't, those MPs are immune to criticism or blame, and until they take the blame for their disastrous Migration policy nothing will get done to fix it.

mapuc

08-03-24, 06:59 AM

Jimbuna

08-03-24, 07:03 AM

Rockstar

08-03-24, 08:24 AM

I chuckled a bit when I heard Farage suggest raising prison sentences for anyone carrying a knife. Then I found out why, apparently a few years ago London murder rate was higher than the gun toting city New York City.

You people have a serious problem.

Moonlight

08-03-24, 11:58 AM

^Yep, an Immigrant one.

Once upon a time an MP called Reeves saw a pensioner struggling to carry two big shopping bags of essential shopping, she said "you shouldn't be struggling with heavy bags like that at your age", so she halved her pension so she could only afford one bag of shopping. :O:

Jimbuna

08-03-24, 12:06 PM

Dargo

08-03-24, 03:24 PM

dezinformatsiya [disinformation] is like cocaine. You take it once or twice, you’re OK, but if you take it all the time, you become an addict. You become a changed man.This week fascist, far-right, conspiracy and extremist ideologies collided and mobilised people on to the streets with the help of Russia. In our instant information environment, informed by algorithms that send the most shocking, outrageous or emotional comments viral, social media is designed to do the exact opposite of bringing unity: it’s a polarisation engine.

Moonlight

08-03-24, 03:50 PM

On FB almost a week ago.
I don't have FB or that Twitter thing either, that's why I have my sanity and you Twitterati Face Book people are soon going to be braindead morons. :haha:

Rockstar

08-03-24, 04:11 PM

This week fascist, far-right, conspiracy and extremist ideologies collided and mobilised people on to the streets with the help of Russia. In our instant information environment, informed by algorithms that send the most shocking, outrageous or emotional comments viral, social media is designed to do the exact opposite of bringing unity: it’s a polarisation engine.

From my understanding the Fascist conception of the State is all embracing, outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian.

So then wouldn't it stand to reason the people
protesting against their government’s policies be considered anti-fascist?

Dargo

08-03-24, 04:27 PM

From my understanding the Fascist conception of the State is all embracing, outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian.

So then wouldn't it stand to reason the people
protesting against their government’s policy closer to being anti-fascist than anything else?By the fascist, I mean the British fascist of today, not the State. I know when the State is seriously threatened, fascism is always the default option, not only for the ruling elites but for the liberal class, but that is rather a Leninist opinion :03:.

Rockstar

08-03-24, 04:48 PM

By the fascist, I mean the British fascist of today, not the State. I know when the State is seriously threatened, fascism is always the default option, not only for the ruling elites but for the liberal class, but that is rather a Leninist opinion :03:.

You just can’t go making things up like that. Fascism is the state. I know this because I read Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile’s book the Doctrine of Fascism.

But don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean to say the British government is fascist because it’s not, YET. hehe. And neither are the people protesting against government policies. Because unlike in the fascist state people in a free state have a right to protest.

Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State. Which sounds exactly what you are proposing people do.

Dargo

08-03-24, 05:37 PM

You just can’t go making things up like that. Fascism is the state. I know this because I read Benito Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile’s book the Doctrine of Fascism.

But don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean to say the British government is fascist because it’s not, YET. hehe. And neither are the people protesting against government policies. Because unlike in the fascist state people in a free state have a right to protest.

Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State. Which sounds exactly what you are proposing people do.I do not make this up, and I am talking of the range of far-right factions and individuals, including neo-Nazis, violent soccer fans and anti-Muslim campaigners, promoting and taken part in the unrest, which has also been stoked by online influencers. David Miles, a prominent member of Patriotic Alternative, a fascist group, shared photographs of himself in Southport other far-right agitators spread information about the protest on social media, including British Movement, a neo-Nazi group. Supporters of the English Defence League has been involved. The riots have also attracted people linked to soccer violence, or hooliganism, which has long overlapped with nationalist movements in Britain.

mapuc

08-03-24, 05:46 PM

The far right is accusing the Far left for destroying the country-This goes in every European country I know of.

Markus

Dargo

08-03-24, 05:56 PM

The far right is accusing the Far left for destroying the country-This goes in every European country I know of.

MarkusYeah know their rhetoric and all their solutions are unconstitutional so be aware.

mapuc

08-03-24, 06:11 PM

Yeah know their rhetoric and all their solutions are unconstitutional so be aware.

I despise their violent riots. Peaceful demonstrations are the only solution, not violence

Markus

Dargo

08-03-24, 06:29 PM

According to British media, at least 35 protests are planned this weekend, mostly organised by radical right-wing activists. In cities including Leeds, Manchester, Nottingham, Liverpool, Belfast and London took to the streets and clashed with police and counter-demonstrators there. In Liverpool, several officers were injured, and in Hull, at least three officers were injured when protesters smashed the windows of a hotel housing asylum seekers. Police present were also injured in Leeds and Stoke-on-Trent. In Blackpool, someone drove a motorbike into a crowd and in Nottingham, bottles and other objects flew through the air during an encounter with counter-demonstrators. In Manchester, a large brawl broke out, which was put down by officers with truncheons.

Rockstar

08-03-24, 06:47 PM

The far right is accusing the Far left for destroying the country-This goes in every European country I know of.

Markus

Far this or far that is not an argument.

The argument is three little girls were stabbed to death and 7 others injured by a psycho immigrant while others immigrants have recently been rioting, burning police cars and challenging authority. Now some Brits are ticked off and blame the governments immigration policies.

I’m sure there’s more to it but anything is better than arguing over one’s place on a political spectrum, to me that’s pointless. Especially when people don’t have a clue what they mean so they use them like vulgar swear words.

Fact is government pushing huge unwanted negative change on reluctant populations will inevitably explode. This didn’t start yesterday either trouble has been brewing for awhile. And its brewing in more places than just the U.K. too.

Dargo

08-03-24, 07:33 PM

The argument is three little girls were stabbed to death and 7 others injured by a psycho immigrant while others immigrants have recently been rioting, burning police cars and challenging authority.This argument is based on false information the suspect, is born in Britain no immigrant these are a range of far-right factions and individuals, including neo-Nazis, violent soccer fans and anti-Muslim campaigners, promoting and taken part in the unrest, which has also been stoked by online influencers after false information spread rapidly on social media that the suspect in Monday's knife attack at a children's dance class in Southport was a radical Muslim migrant. What now erupts this weekend is a clash between fascist and anti-fascist do not tell me what I know is happening I have seen this kinda fights for decades I know when I see a fascist and I know the answer. Aufs maul! And wonder who planted this false information, yep, Russia.

Moonlight

08-04-24, 05:15 AM

That knife wielding murdering currant was the son of Rwandan Immigrants, the government might say he's British but most of the people of the UK will say he's a Plastic Brit at best.
That's the label that's slapped on these people, when they see the unwillingness of Migrants to integrate into UK society or an athlete from another country changing nationality and using our flag for their own convenience. Being a “Plastic Brit” isn’t about race it's a question of whether those born here with African, Asian or Afro-Caribbean parents, could ever be truly British.

As we citizens in the UK have known for decades their allegiance is given to any country other than the UK, 7 July 2005 London bombings, Palestinian marches, Iranian demonstrations, homegrown Muslim Terrorists, the list is bloody endless.
So don't call these twats British, they've never been British and they never will be.

Moonlight

08-04-24, 07:49 AM

Those lefty politicians have caused this immigration problem, I don't just mean the Labour ones, the Tory scum and the LibDem scum are equally to blame, not one of them has the bollocks to go on her programme and defend their migration policy because she would shove it down their throats. :haha:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3XaIYx2hII

A warning from history, they didn't listen then and they're not listening now. Crikey, I was only 10 in 1968.
Enoch Powell Rivers of Blood Speech 20 April 1968.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSKCBMKd-ag

Dargo

08-04-24, 08:54 AM

About those so-called Brits "protesting":
In Hull, they made a huge point about how peaceful they were, until they went full riot, later mobbing a car in frankly terrifying scenes. In Liverpool, able to get to the objective defended by hundreds of locals, they settled for an all out street rumble, hooligans gunna hooligan. Later on, they protected the kiddies by torching the Spellow Lane library. In Blackpool, they tried to do one of these riots outside Britain's largest punk festival, with thousands of anti-fascist punks in attendance. It went as expected. In Bristol, they rolled out in number, and tried to storm a hotel, which was saved by hundreds of locals. You know, all for the kids.

These people don't love Britain or it's people. They hate it and want to use your fear and concern over the social issues brought upon us by Russia and fascists against you. They want you to hate and fuel the hate of others. The people who actually love this land and their communities were out there in their tens of thousands. Circling mosques, hotels, community centres and protests by petty Hitlerites. They won't get the front page, but there are many many more of us than them.

This itself followed a night of violence after the paper patriots rocked up to the vigil for the murdered kids, blaming Islam (attacker is Christian) and drinking crates of strong bow. Later on, they heard a Muslim with a knife had been arrest nearby, so they attacked a mosque. The knife man in question turned out to be one of theirs, of course. They are stochastic terrorists, spewing bile and hate, churning up a culture of odious nationalism built upon lie after lie after lie. Furthermore, they aren't "normal people" with concerns. That is their appeal to normalise the hate and trap you in it. They are hate mongers.

"It's not racist to oppose the boats..." No, But it's built on a false premise and is a softer recitation of fascist mythology re "invasion" and "great replacement" Far Right Thugs Unite Protest innocence all ye want. There is a core and open racist driving force. "Protest" “Riot” is not the right word. Yeah, there’s a lot of chaos but the basic shape is selecting targets for attack on people and buildings based on race, with the aim of driving a minority out. That’s a pogrom!

mapuc

08-04-24, 10:01 AM

Dargo

08-04-24, 10:17 AM

There isn't any better way to suppress a citizens feeling around immigrants than calling them racist

A good friend wrote this on his wall
"Violence has no place on the streets of England," says British Home Secretary Yvette Cooper.
And she is now in the process of teaching the population about this in a country where the population is exposed to immigrant-related violence on a daily basis.

MarkusThese are not concerning citizen, this is a braun mob attacking communities, but they failed we anti-fascist are with more and will defend our communities. Today the real concerned citizen are out in mass on the streets driving the braun mobs out of the communities. Days following you will see mass arrest (already begun this morning) of those so called concerned for the kid's citizen they get long punishment because social media (all is recorded by use) they so like will give the courts all the proof to convict them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CvTssh2IY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHvtjHuKL8A

In Bristol today it was not the police that prevented a lynch mob of fascists gaining access to immigrant housing but a cordon of antifascists bravely putting their bodies on the line to protect the people within.

Moonlight

08-04-24, 11:46 AM

In Bristol today it was not the police that prevented a lynch mob of fascists gaining access to immigrant housing but a cordon of antifascists bravely putting their bodies on the line to protect the people within.

Bristol is the Capitol of the Labour left, in addition to that it's also the home of the Woke hive mind virus, don't think for one moment that these muppets are the norm around the country as they are not. :O:

Dargo

08-04-24, 12:07 PM

Bristol is the Capitol of the Labour left, in addition to that it's also the home of the Woke hive mind virus, don't think for one moment that these muppets are the norm around the country as they are not. :O:And so do you normalize fascism you talk about politics, but it was not the police or politicians that defended and fended of the fascist this weekend it were the people living in these communities you talk about Bristol of the capital of ... this is not only happening in one city in all the people protect their communities and fend of these fascist.

Jimbuna

08-04-24, 12:14 PM

Coming to an area near you soon...perhaps.

Fears troops could hit streets of Britain as Peter Bleksley predicts ‘escalation’ of violence

Former Met Police detective Peter Bleksley is concerned that violence across Britain could lead to the “unfortunate sight” of troops being deployed to quell the chaos.

Protesters have been making their fury known across the country in the wake of the deaths of three young girls in Southport in a crazed knife attack.

Thousands have taken to the streets and caused acts of violence during clashes with the police, and over 100 arrests have been carried out.

Speaking on GB News, Bleksley hit out at those clashing with officers and said drastic measures may need to be imposed to stop the violence.

“If you pick up a brick or a bottle and throw it at a police officer, you are an idiot. End of story”, he said.
“Something quite dramatic is going to have to happen here because I see no sign of this unrest ending.

“I see this escalating and spreading. It concerns me because if it goes beyond the capabilities of the police, will we have to face the unfortunate sight of troops on the streets of Britain?”

Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has promised firm action on anyone found to have committed any wrongdoing during the protests, but Bleksley questioned how this can be the case when the justice system is in “absolute crisis”.

He added: “One of the first things Labour announced was letting thousands out of prison.

“Will those thousands merely be replaced by those chucking bricks and bottles at the police? We shall have to see.

“We have to question politicians. They bear a huge amount of responsibility for getting the nation to this point where so many feel frustrated.

“I’m not condoning this in any shape or form. So many are concerned about the rise of Islam and unfettered immigration, so they are going out onto the streets and causing mayhem.”

Dame Diana Johnson has insisted the police have “all the resources they need” to deal with riots and disorder.

Courts could sit overnight to ensure “thugs” are brought to justice, she suggested on BBC News.

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has given police his “full backing” to take any action necessary to respond to “extremists” attempting to “sow hate” after scenes of disorder in England and Northern Ireland this week.

But concerns have been raised that officers may be left unable to deal with other incidents as a result of the need to focus efforts on the prospect of ongoing rioting, with the Police Federation warning: “There is a cost to all this.

Asked whether enough is being done to respond to the disorder, policing minister Dame Diana said the Government has been “reassured” that forces are able to meet the scale of the challenge.

“The police have made it very clear that they have all the resources they need at the moment… they have the powers that they need,” the minister said.

“There is no need to bring in the Army and there has been no discussion about that.

“(Police) have long-standing plans in place for mutual aid if they need to put extra police officers into certain parts of the country.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-riots-fears-troops-could-hit-streets-of-britain-as-peter-bleksley-predicts-escalation-of-violence/ar-AA1odflG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=d834e64207bf49a699239307da815384&ei=79

Jimbuna

08-04-24, 12:17 PM

And so do you normalize fascism you talk about politics, but it was not the police or politicians that defended and fended of the fascist this weekend it were the people living in these communities you talk about Bristol of the capital of ... this is not only happening in one city in all the people protect their communities and fend of these fascist.

Pretty bang on :yep:

mapuc

08-04-24, 01:26 PM

It's a kind of double morale

First they have been voting for years if not decades and now they demonstrate violently against the immigration politics.

They are saying-We have known this for years now
Hence my question-So why did you kept on voting then ?

They have only them self to blame not the immigrants or the refugees.
A person who keep on voting and thereafter protest against their countries refugees politics, should stop protesting.

Markus

Jimbuna

08-04-24, 01:32 PM

Markus, the UK is in a poor state of financial health after the way the Tories were in power over the past fourteen years.

Labour have now at long last been given a chance but after only a matter of a few weeks they have announced cuts to vulnerable pensioners, and end to free tv licences and possible tax rises in the autumn.

Now add to that they are now giving shelter and financial assistance illegal migrants....I'm sure you can work it out.

mapuc

08-04-24, 01:37 PM

MGR1

08-04-24, 06:03 PM

I do have to point out that, other than Belfast, the riots have been restricted to England.

So far at least.

Apparently the Right Wingers are wanting to have rallies in Scottish cities next month, but so far they've been very much told that they aren't welcome by the various local authorities. They may find themselves out of their depth if they try something.

If I remember correctly, unlike in English and Welsh Law where it's a Civil Offense, Breach of the Peace is a Criminal Offence under Scottish Law. That means potential jail time in addition to the hefty fine.

The general consensus in Scotland about the violence is very much "Keep that English (insert Scottish slang for urine) South of the Border".

Mike.

Jimbuna

08-05-24, 05:18 AM

I'm expecting/hoping matters will quieten down in a week or so but it may take some jail time for those offending before the message hits home.

Jimbuna

08-05-24, 05:59 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/Pq5YNKCw/453923992-10161873862386565-6477452202484959286-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Rockstar

08-05-24, 08:31 AM

Crap economy, crap immigration policy, the stabbing deaths of three children. And the best the British can come up with is to blame the far right, Putin, Russian propaganda, and finally blame it the Jews. :har::har::har:

Any bets they’ll somehow try to blame Trump for the riots next?

British Professor David Miller speaks in an extensive analysis regarding Israel’s role in fueling the extreme right against Muslims in Britain and says:

“What is causing anti-Islam riots across Britain, and why now?

1. The riots were instigated by Zionist Stephen Yaxley Lennon (Tommy Robinson) who had been working for Israel since 2009 as part of the Islamophobia [anti-jihad] movement created by that country.. when his organization called (English Defense League) was founded in 2011 Two years after its creation it was renamed the English and Jewish Defense League (JDL), a 'Zionist terrorist organisation', and the Jewish Defense League (a Zionist terrorist organisation) has been a major part of violent anti-Islamic thuggery on the streets of Britain over the past decade.

2. Yaxley Lennon (Tommy Robinson) is one of the most prominent actors in the State of Israel's online influencer program in response to the Al-Aqsa Flood operation.. It is Israel that promotes Zionism and he and others such as Ollie London, Noah Tishby, Hen Mazij, Arsene Ostrowski and Emily Schrader (and many others) They are paid to promote Zionist propaganda...in which confronting pro-Palestine protests and sowing the seeds of Islamophobia are two important and interconnected goals.

3. The anti-Islamic riots that recently broke out in Britain should be viewed as the final stage of Israel’s war on British Muslims, whom it sees as the ones who sparked the protest movement in Britain. These riots were designed to punish Muslims for their anti-Zionist sentiments after the frustration of many Among other methods of suppressing opposition to Zionism by the State of Israel... Israel's attempts to use its assets and agents in the British political and media class [such as Suella Braverman and Michael Gove] to thwart the pro-Palestinian protests have failed... The Zionist counter-protests have also failed to mobilize large numbers... and actions have failed. Sporadic Zionist bullying and use of other agents [such as Iranian secular extremists] to intimidate Muslims.. So Israel is now arming a far-right white nationalist who outnumbers Zionist street thugs or Iranian royalists and secular extremists.

4. Finally there are also questions about who invented the idea that Muslims are responsible for the crimes that sparked these events.. MI6 and its agents (for example Paul Mason) try desperately to pretend that this was a Russian disinformation operation.. but the original stories did not It comes from Russia... where did it come from?

mapuc

08-05-24, 08:59 AM

Why now!?
I think the killing of these 3 children and wounding 11 others was the drop that made the cup ran over.

Markus

Rockstar

08-05-24, 09:54 AM

Why now!?
I think the killing of these 3 children and wounding 11 others was the drop that made the cup ran over.

Markus

Factor in years of economic downturn, forcing a highly disliked immigration policy and now the murder of three children by an immigrant. It will spark riots.

And from I can see it’s not just one group that is resorting to violence. Nor are they specific skin color in some anti migration policy protestors I see what looks to e from India in the mix as well .

But when you import barbarians from barbaric lands don’t surprised when the feces hits the rotating oscillator

Rockstar

08-05-24, 10:46 AM

I guess we won’t be hearing much from anyone in the U.K. anymore.

British man arrested for making offensive comments on his Facebook page

Americans used to the First Amendment are often surprised about the number of arrests made in the UK for speech crimes

There will by many arrests after the recent riots as online tensions were very high

I’m pretty sure making laws prohibiting what people can say and think is what Giovani Gentile would call fascist.

Jimbuna

08-05-24, 11:24 AM

Why now!?
I think the killing of these 3 children and wounding 11 others was the drop that made the cup ran over.

Markus

I think that was just the last straw that broke the camels back Markus.

Jimbuna

08-05-24, 11:29 AM

378 people have been arrested after the past week of violent disorder in the UK, the National Police Chiefs' Council says.

"We expect that total to rise each day," the NPCC says, adding: "Work is going on around the clock to do this"

Earlier, Sir Keir Starmer announced a "standing army" of specialist police officers to tackle the disorder.

Australia, Malaysia, and Nigeria have given their citizens travel warnings about the disorder in the UK

A hotel housing asylum seekers was targeted near Rotherham on Sunday, with violence unfolding in Middlesbrough, Liverpool, Belfast and elsewhere.

It comes after three girls were killed in Southport last week, which was followed by false claims on social media that a recently-arrived asylum seeker was to blame.

Moonlight

08-05-24, 11:57 AM

“Sowing The SEEDS Of Their Own Demise” | Isabel Oakeshott Calls Out Keir Starmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCSUBOO-iqc

Rockstar

08-05-24, 12:09 PM

Britain calls for Bangladesh to 'restore calm, de-escalate the situation'.

I reckon the next step will be for Starmer to send troops to protect the Mosques in Bangladesh.

Jimbuna

08-05-24, 12:24 PM

“Sowing The SEEDS Of Their Own Demise” | Isabel Oakeshott Calls Out Keir Starmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCSUBOO-iqc

Was quite surprised to see in excess of a dozen prisoner transportation vans arriving at the towns magistrates courts over the period of a couple of hours today then more so when I was reliably informed each and every one of the occupants were remanded to prison awaiting sentencing.

Rockstar

08-05-24, 12:32 PM

It’s long but damn it will open your eyes. No matter what country you’re from.

https://youtu.be/FvA9odna5dw

mapuc

08-06-24, 04:46 AM

No wonder the Brits had enough

Knife crime offences in London recorded by the Metropolitan Police rose year on year in the latest figures, but have not yet returned to levels seen before the Covid-19 pandemic.

Some 14,577 offences were recorded in the 12 months to December 2023, Home Office data shows.

This is up 20% from 12,119 in the previous 12 months, but is slightly below the 14,680 in the year to March 2020.

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2024-04-30/knife-crime-in-london-what-the-latest-figures-show?

Markus

Rockstar

08-06-24, 06:10 AM

Oh man, so it’s been Putin orchestrating these protests all along. Now the U.K. Government wants to regulate information and what you can think .and say and will actually throw people in jail for it. So be good little citizens otherwise off to the pokey you go.

So I take back what I said before, maybe the U.K. Government has crossed over into a fascist state.

It’s not Starmer’s fault just blame it on the Putin.

Russian fake news about Southport attack is ‘grey warfare’, says former MI6 head Sir Richard Dearlove says false identification of suspect is a ‘fundamental tactic’ used by Putin against the West

Dominic Penna,
POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
1 August 2024 • 12:24pm

https://archive.ph/RM2nY

Russia’s fake news about the Southport stabbings is part of Vladimir Putin’s “grey warfare” against the West, a former head of MI6 has said.
Russian state media were among those who falsely identified the suspect – who was charged overnight – as an asylum seeker who had arrived in the UK in a small boat.

The claims helped to fuel disorder on the streets of Hartlepool and London as well as Southport, where dozens of police officers were injured in clashes with far-Right rioters.

Sir Richard Dearlove said the spread of fake news was a “fundamental tactic” used by Putin’s regime against the UK and other Western nations.

He told LBC’s Nick Ferrari: “What I can tell you is that we’re in a state of grey warfare with Russia – we may not feel that we are, but they certainly think they are.
“The exploitation of that space is a fundamental tactic in their conflict with the West. So if these bots have been used to stir up through social media a violent response, I’m not the slightest bit surprised.

“People just don’t seem to understand the extent of the Russian attitude to conflict and the way every aspect of their relationship with us will be seen as a basis to attack us.”

The Kremlin launched a disinformation campaign in March, spreading false claims that MI6 and other Western intelligence agencies were responsible for a terror attack in Moscow.

Asked whether Moscow’s attitude towards the UK was “as grave as you can recall”, Sir Richard replied: “Yes, I think it is at the moment, certainly towards the West.
“The Russians think they’re in an existential conflict with us. That’s my view of the international situation. I think we are slightly complacent, and I don’t think people necessarily understand the danger that we’re in.”

Sir Richard said he had “not specifically heard of” a fake news website called Channel3Now, which was behind the false information about the Southport attacker.

“Clearly, it’s one of the sources of this activity out of Russia,” he added. “I think the people running these [sites] have a pretty open instruction to exploit opportunities as they identify them.

“They’re not going to get clearance from Putin, but it’s part of the nature of their setup and how they operate … They’re not going to act with restraint.”
Sir Richard said his own email account had been targeted by Russian hackers, despite him no longer holding an intelligence role. “You can see the extent of the effort they’re prepared to put into these activities,” he added. “I can’t say I’m a strategically crucial person.”
Asked whether X, formerly Twitter, had become a “wild west” under the control of Elon Musk, its owner, Sir Richard said Mr Musk’s approach to the social media platform represented “a split in America between those who believe in control and … absolute freedom and anarchy”.

Lord Mann, the Government’s independent adviser on anti-Semitism, suggested on Wednesday that Sir Keir Starmer should take action to regulate X, writing: “The way Twitter is framing its algorithms towards violent extremism requires careful but decisive action from legislators. Online harm is back on the agenda.”

Jimbuna

08-06-24, 07:15 AM

No wonder the Brits had enough

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2024-04-30/knife-crime-in-london-what-the-latest-figures-show?

Markus

All under Tory rule Markus whilst the rich got richer and the poor got poorer.

Jimbuna

08-06-24, 07:20 AM

A man in his 50s in Belfast was seriously injured last night in what police are treating as a racially-motivated hate attack.

It happened during what the Police Service of Northern Ireland call a "second night of rioting and disorder"

There was more unrest in other parts of the UK, with police coming under attack in Darlington and Plymouth.

Several vehicles and a pub were also damaged in Birmingham after false reports of a far-right march.

Separately, a man in Leeds has become the first person to be charged with intending to stir up racial hatred online, in relation to the unrest.

There has been violent disorder in towns and cities since last Tuesday, the day after three young girls were killed in Southport - false claims on social media followed that someone who had arrived in the UK illegally was to blame.

Jimbuna

08-06-24, 11:19 AM

All injured children in Southport attack out of hospital

Three girls were killed when a knifeman entered a Taylor Swift-themed holiday club on 29 July and began stabbing those inside.

Ten people, including two adults, were also seriously injured and taken to hospitals across Merseyside.

Alder Hey Children's Hospital confirmed that all children admitted with injuries linked to the attacks have now been safely discharged.

The hospital said in a statement: "We would like to take this opportunity to thank all those involved in responding to the incident or caring for anyone affected by it, especially our colleagues in the NHS, Merseyside Police and North West Ambulance Service.

"We also want to say thank you to all who sent well wishes to Alder Hey and to the families affected.

"Our heartfelt sympathies remain with all those impacted by last week’s tragic events."

Bebe King, six, Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, and Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, were named as those killed during the attack in a studio in Hart Street.

Yoga teacher Leanne Lucas, 35, had arranged the workshop and was severely wounded.

Her cousin Chris Rimmer called her a "hero" and said she had "shielded two girls" during the attack.

Jonathan Hayes, who runs a business next door, was also stabbed in the leg after rushing to help.

On Monday Merseyside Police chief constable, Serena Kennedy, said some of her officers had been "completely traumatised" by what they experienced that day.

But they were also struggling to come to terms with the outbursts of violent disorder in Southport, Liverpool city centre and Walton in the days that followed.

More than 80 Merseyside Police officers were injured responding to the violence, and Ms Kennedy said some had told her they had feared they would not make it home to their families.

Axel Muganwa Rudakubana, 17, has been charged with three counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder.

Rudakubana, from Banks, is next due to appear at Liverpool Crown Court on 25 October for a pre-trial preparation hearing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7033y4yxdyo

Rockstar

08-06-24, 03:16 PM

I know you’re either worried about being arrested by the State for having an opinion.

Or maybe you just don’t care and a member of the party. So I’ll help y’all out.

https://youtu.be/H-S8H4FZWU8

https://i.ibb.co/ZxWsQ8d/IMG-0297.jpg

mapuc

08-06-24, 03:31 PM

It has to be a kind of altered news-'cause it can't be true

https://x.com/ksorbs/status/1820802629032689731

Markus

mapuc

08-07-24, 03:20 AM

The list was initially published on the Telegram messaging app along with the phrase “no more immigration” and other anti-migration sentiment, and has been shared thousands of times.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgww4z8zx7o

Markus

Skybird

08-07-24, 05:27 AM

[Die Welt] The riots in the UK following the murder of three little girls with knives did not come out of nowhere. Large sections of the population have long disagreed with the increase in immigration. But the government ignored the first signs. That is now taking its revenge.

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Sweden, Germany next. :hmmm:

Whether the murderer was a British-born from Rwanda, or a Saudi immigrant, does not matter, is completely irrelevant. Deeper rooting social dynamics are at work here that just sought a trigger, no matter which one. And they found one.

The problem is home-made, born of ignorrance, cowardice and haughtiness of the political, leaft-leaning "elites".

Really, i expect to see the same in Germany sooner or later. Sweden. France. Netherlands. The clan crime we have imported and installed, already is out of control over here.

Jimbuna

08-07-24, 08:19 AM

Jimbuna

08-07-24, 08:23 AM

Three men have been jailed for taking part in violent disorder in the riots on Merseyside.

A 58-year-old man who attacked a police officer is given three years - while two others received sentences of 30 months and 20 months.

This is the "tip of the iceberg", says the regional prosecutor outside court, who adds that anyone participating in violent disorder will be "swiftly punished"

Meanwhile, thousands of police are preparing for more possible riots across England later - with reports as many as 100 protests could be planned.

Moonlight

08-07-24, 09:44 AM

BID BLOCKED ISIS bride Shamima Begum’s final bid to get UK citizenship back REFUSED as she fails to ‘raise arguable point of view’

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29740622/isis-bride-shamima-begums-citizenship/

I wonder how much this pillock has cost the British tax payers?, she hasn't been given permission to appeal this decision but, her lawyer still thinks there's a lot of money to be made out of this case.
Typical lawyer eh, they aren't bothered if she's gets her citizenship back or not they'll just use Begum as a pawn to make even more money.

Jimbuna

08-07-24, 10:08 AM

They'll probably now go to the ECHR and get the decision overturned.

Jimbuna

08-07-24, 12:44 PM

Tommy Robinson flees Cyprus as UK braces for more riots

British far-right activist Tommy Robinson has fled from Cyprus, Ayia Napa's police force has confirmed.

Express.co.uk contacted the police service in the popular holiday resort, where an officer confirmed that Mr Robinson, real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, had "left from the country".

"They informed us that this guy has left from the country [sic] today", the officer said.

The officer did not know whether or not Mr Yaxley-Lennon left off his own accord or whether he had been sent back to Britain to face justice.

An arrest warrant was issued for the EDL founder after he failed to appear at the Royal Courts of Justice on Monday 29 July for a hearing in a contempt of court case.

The Cypriot officer this website spoke to believed Mr Yaxley-Lennon would have left via an airport: "My supervisor told us that he left. So to know that [means] he left from the airport."
On Wednesday, a Cypriot police spokesman revealed that their officers were willing to assist the UK's authorities in taking action against the 41-year-old.

"We are in contact with the British police, and if they need our assistance, we are ready to help," the spokesperson said amid spiralling concerns about yet more violence on UK streets.

Responding to a report about Cypriot police's willingness to assist their UK counterparts, the Luton-born activist posted on X: "Lucky I'm not in Cyprus then ain't it".

Mr Yaxley-Lennon was wanted in court on 29 July due to "flagrant" contempt of court over a film played at a protest in central London.

The film, depicting Jamal Hijazi, made allegations against the Syrian refugee which a court in 2021 found to be libellous.

The wanted activist posted a version of the outlawed film Silenced on X on 27 July. Mr Yaxley-Lennon claims that in response to his sharing of the banned documentary, the "establishment has come after me full throttle".

The campaigner's whereabouts are currently unknown.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tommy-robinson-flees-cyprus-as-uk-braces-for-more-riots/ar-AA1onLKl?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2b6e5437ef9f467bbcaba07298ece48d&ei=12

Gorpet

08-07-24, 10:54 PM

Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini, Has sprung up again , In NATO WHOES ****IN UP MY KEYBOARD? I CANT STOP CAPS. EVEN NEIL MUST BEND THE KNEE WHO IS ,CONTROLLING WHAT I TYPE, I TRY TO TAKE CAPS OFF AND THEY STAY. iT MUST BE WINDY, OK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY KEYBOARD , iT DOESN'T MATTER,
kEIR STARMER CAME TO THE uNITED sTATES TO GET HIS ORDERS.,

Jimbuna

08-08-24, 07:01 AM

They'll probably now go to the ECHR and get the decision overturned.

And so it came to pass.

Shamima Begum to take citizenship case to the ECHR

Shamima Begum will go to the European Court of Human Rights after UK judges refused to hear her appeal against the removal of her British nationality on national security grounds.

The Supreme Court said Begum, who was born and raised in Tower Hamlets, east London, could not challenge the 2019 revocation of her citizenship after she joined Islamic State.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/shamima-begum-to-take-citizenship-case-to-the-echr/ar-AA1oopST?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=4acb46bd32cd4f7eb690e70b0e4842d6&ei=20

Moonlight

08-08-24, 07:18 AM

Keir Starmer's huge small boat migration failure laid bare with one damning stat

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/keir-starmer-s-huge-small-boat-migration-failure-laid-bare-with-one-damning-stat/ar-AA1orMpB?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=93c103bdb40d4011b5876b38c6aa074c&ei=35

More than 4,000 migrants have arrived in Britain on small boats since Sir Keir Starmer entered 10 Downing Street, it has been revealed.

Starmer and his useless government will become one of the most unpopular governments of all time, and he'll do this in less than 18 months. He, and his lefty nut jobs are heading for another decade in the shadows, and if that Angela Rayner bitch takes control of the party you can tack another decade on to that.

Which party is going to get these disillusioned voters, I haven't got a bloody clue as they've mostly all got the same policies, perhaps another party will rise up from the ashes of the old ones, one that doesn't have British values but immigrant values instead.

I don't see why not, there's millions of them here already and there'll be thousands of them flying in and arriving by small boats on a daily basis, this is not immigration, it's a bleeding invasion condoned by successive governments and bankrolled by big business.
The countries voters or lets put it like the Westminster elite see us, the peasants aka, the working class, we've been screwed over by these self serving politicians since the days of Oliver Cromwell and his roundheads, and it won't get any better under Starmer's knobheads.

Jimbuna

08-08-24, 07:50 AM

Poetic moment would-be rioters need police escort to get them out of protests

Eight men found themselves surrounded by 2,000 anti-fascist protesters chanting ‘Nazi scum off our streets’ in Brighton last night.

It had been touted as the biggest day of unrest yet after more than a week of far-right riots that have set the country ablaze.

A list of 100 locations – mostly immigration advice centres, along with some refugee charities and a pensioner’s house – was circulated online.

But instead of being a climax of violence, the country was littered with far-right no-shows as up to 25,000 anti-racist demonstrators took a stand.

The gaggle who did appear in Brighton found themselves so outnumbered, they needed a line of police to keep the crowd clogging the street at bay.

As the sun set, officers shepherded them away from the wall where they’d been slouching, arms crossed, and into a police van before ferrying them to safety.

It may be too early to see if the tide has been turned against the far-right violence.

But last night’s humiliating defeat of the far-right is a clear break from a week of terror that left black and brown people warning each other to stay home and stay safe.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/poetic-moment-would-be-rioters-need-police-escort-to-get-them-out-of-protests/ar-AA1os0TR?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=dc0f5794564e440e82a7b1e82c4f5725&ei=55

Rockstar

08-08-24, 11:57 AM

I guess when a fascist government publicly threatens to cut the throats of those protesting against immigration policy, murder rates, poor economy, cuts in services those protesters would need police protection now wouldn’t they comrade?

https://youtu.be/nAHOOSZResc

https://youtu.be/HxBDc6-Wzf4

Rockstar

08-08-24, 01:19 PM

THE STORY
“Two-Tier Keir”
Blood in Britain's Streets

AYAAN HIRSI ALI
AUG 07, 2024

https://www.restorationbulletin.com/p/two-tier-keir

On July 29th, 11 young girls aged between 6 and 9-years-old were stabbed multiple times at a Taylor Swift-themed birthday party. Three of them died; two in pools of their own blood and one later in the hospital. There is now rioting across England. The response to this rioting may tell us everything we need to know about the skewed preferences of Europe’s political elite and those of Britain’s in particular, the unabated demonization of the white working class, and the failure of the mass-immigration project to produce a society in which minority groups view themselves and the nation as part of a cohesive whole.

The three young girls, pictured below, were six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe and nine-year-old Alice Dasilva Aguiar.

https://i.ibb.co/LhsbHxf/IMG0319.webphttps://i.ibb.co/1vpW2g1/IMG-0318.webphttps://i.ibb.co/kxPvpg8/IMG-0320.webp

They were killed by 17-year-old Axel Rudakubana, who was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents. The police have not yet released any information about motive, but in the immediate aftermath protestors, suspecting an Islamic terror attack, gathered outside the Southport Mosque. They were met with police and dogs, and violence erupted between the protestors and the local forces. This violence has now surfaced in pockets across the country in protest against mass immigration. It’s akin, though on a smaller scale, to what we have seen in Ireland and France this year.

It should go without saying that all violent disorder which endangers lives and destroys property is unacceptable. There is no excuse that justifies riots, attacks on citizens, property damage and arson. This red line applies to all individuals or groups on the political spectrum from far right to far left and just as much to all ethnic and religious minorities regardless of their numbers or social status. It tears at the social fabric and destroys the trust which is necessary for common flourishing. Unfortunately, the British Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer did not say this in his statement on the developments.

The Prime Minister decided instead to single out what he calls “far-right” and made a point of stressing the need to keep Muslims and minority communities safe. In this speech, which focusses not on the spark which ignited this unrest, but rather on “Islamophobia,” and “far-right” thuggery, you can see how the Prime Minister might be gearing up to implement his de facto blasphemy laws which I warned about prior to the general election in my article “Labour’s Backdoor British Blasphemy Laws.”

Sir Keir’s rhetoric serves to embolden disaffected Muslim youths by furthering the narrative that Muslims are persecuted in western countries. It is this narrative which Islamists seize upon to radicalize the population and stir young men to violence. The response also serves to demoralize the British population, who have found that their extreme concern over the effects of mass-immigration falls on deaf ears. The play-book is always as follows: an immigrant or child of an immigrant goes on a killing rampage and the government goes after a “far-right” threat.

I wrote on the Restoration Bulletin about this trend in “Islamism and the Far Right: A False Equivalence.”

Over the last few days, the self-styled “Muslim Defence League,” a group of loosely organized young Muslim men have been parading around their towns armed with weapons in response to what they perceive as a threat to Muslim communities. They have largely been goaded on by the rhetoric of senior politicians such as Sir Keir.

There has been little interrogation of this in the media, but a proliferation of videos online gives us a glimpse into the scale of the crowds in some of these areas.

There has been no press conference held on the threat of “far-right” Muslim gangs – young men walking around their towns with machetes and pipes. In fact, videos have emerged of police in Stoke encouraging Muslim men to discard their knifes at the mosque. In organizing an amnesty for this group, in these terms, the police essentially treat Muslims as a separate community over whom legitimate authority lies in the Mosque, not the state. They might be accused of policing along sectarian lines.

One senior Labour politician, Jess Phillips, a Government Home Office Minister, has been accused of defending and excusing the behavior of these Muslim gangs on twitter.

https://i.ibb.co/9NHNt8Z/IMG-0317.jpg

There have been calls for her resignation.

This has culminated in a sense, amongst Britons, that there is a two-tiered application of policing. That minority “communities” are treated with kid gloves in comparison to native Britons. The moniker “Two-Tier Keir” has latched itself onto the man who has only been Prime Minister for a month.

Even Elon Musk has waded into the discussion, responding to the Prime Minister’s speech on twitter by asking: “shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on *all* communities?” It is a fair question, one which a large subsection of British society does not think has been answered convincingly. And it is why these sporadic outbursts of violence have continued to erupt.

This all comes in the wider context of increasing disorder and criminality on the streets in Britain. Just a few weeks ago, riots erupted in Harehills, an area in Leeds, after four children of a Romani family were taken into care by social services. A double decker bus was set on fire in the middle of the street and property was damaged and burnt throughout the night. Videos emerged of “community leaders” arguing that the Romani community could deal with its affairs internally, threatening further riots if they were not allowed to do so. It was stressed that the local police and social services were unwelcome.

More recently, on July 22nd, a solider in full uniform, was stabbed multiple times in the neck leaving his barracks. 24-year-old Nigerian migrant, Anthony Esan, has been charged with the attempted murder. It was only 11 years ago that Fusilier Lee Rigby was decapitated in the street by two Nigerian migrants.

This time, there was barely a mention on the news though there were, of course, the inevitable well wishes to the family from the Prime Minister. But the most tangible reflection on the event seems to be a change in the rules on what soldiers can wear outside of barracks in order to keep them safe from certain members of the public; a twisted irony. There is a sense that in Britain, much like the rest of Europe, events like this have become normalized. It has required the brutal murder of three young girls to bring people onto the streets.

Britain has fewer police per capita than most European countries. In accordance with the principles under which the police forces were set up in the 19th century, they have always relied on the support of the public to maintain order. It is an important principle on which the country was ordered for over a century. And it worked. There are now groups of people with a sense of identity entirely separate from that of the British and who resent the imposition of authority coming from outside their “communities.”

The scale of mass immigration into the country, from places with very different cultures to that of Britain, has radically transformed the country in just twenty years and upended the social contract. It has made this situation inevitable. It will only get worse if the political elites in Britain, including journalists, continue to refuse to have uncomfortable conversations in the public square about the nature and effects of immigration and the violence perpetrated and encouraged by certain groups.

The British people have voted in at least the last six elections to put an end to mass immigration, which they view as a drain on public finances and a danger to their way of life. And, as we have seen, over recent years it is. The offences against the British people are perhaps too numerous to list, but here are some which loom large in the memory of the British public:

2005 Central London bombings, 52 dead.

2013 Lee Rigby hacked to death by two terrorists.

2017 Westminster attack.

2017 Manchester Arena bombing.

2017 London Bridge attack.

2019 London Bridge stabbing.

2020 Reading multiple stabbings, three dead.

2021 Liverpool Women's hospital bombing.

2021 Murder of Sir David Amess MP.

2023-24 Rise of Machete brawls on the streets of towns.

2024 Army Officer stabbed outside his barracks.

On top of all this, in deprived towns across the country, from Telford, to Rotherham to Rochdale, thousands of young girls were systematically raped and groomed by Muslim grooming gangs over decades. The police turned a blind eye as this tragedy was unfolding out of fear of being accused of racism and islamophobia.

It does not seem unreasonable that a working-class British person might take one look at the changes which have occurred in his area over the last twenty years and feel betrayed.

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Nearly all of this change occurred since 2001. Not only did the public not ask for this, they actively voted against this at every election over the last two decades.

Rioting is an abominable thing. Stealing, looting, and the damaging of property have been excused by swathes of liberal commentators over recent years as an essential form of speech; a way to “speak truth to power.” This is never right and punishment for violence ought to be handed down firmly. However, it cannot be the case that the expression of grief and anxiety from one “community” – the British – is condemned more harshly than the violence expressed on the streets of Britain by minority gangs on a regular basis. This is anarcho-tyranny manifest.

If the Prime Minister will come out and condemn the “Muslim Defence League” on the same terms and listen with some sympathy to the concerns of Britons from working class areas who feel that their safety is under threat, then fine. Until then, it will be #TwoTierKeir, as Musk puts it.

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Dargo

08-08-24, 02:06 PM

Real live in the UK is different:
New attacks were planned for Wednesday night. Through far-right Telegram channels, hundreds of addresses of lawyers and social institutions, among others, were distributed to be targeted. British citizens annoyed by the hate-mongers decided not to let it get that far, rapidly organised themselves and lined up in large groups near the targets to protect them from the imminent danger. Within hours, the streets were recaptured from the racist agitators in this unprecedented Battle of Britain.

In Middlesborough, Birmingham and Sheffield, the turnout of defenders of democracy exceeded all expectations. In London, the crowd chanted "Whose streets? Our streets!" In Liverpool, mothers formed a protective ring around one of the targets, an aid facility for migrants, and carried placards reading "Nan's against Nazis". The anti-racists took a lot of work off the hands of the police. The authorities had been struggling to contain the extremely violent rioters until Wednesday, but the overwhelming number of civilians changed the situation. The far-right gangs saw that they stood no chance against the large groups of democrats and chose eggs for their money.

Elon Musk, the billionaire who seeks to destabilise societies through his Medium X, had earlier predicted and perhaps hoped for civil war. The peaceful citizens proved otherwise; their massive presence alone caused opponents to flee. In some places, such as Brighton where the rioters faced an excess of anti-racists, they even asked for police protection. This was not really necessary as the democrats sang and danced the samba to keep the racists at bay. Clashes did threaten in a few places but were appeased. Extreme right-wing hooligans who returned to attack targets later in the night still encountered a police force. More than 6,000 policemen were on hand to protect society from the far-right gangs.

mapuc

08-08-24, 03:18 PM

Dargo

08-08-24, 04:07 PM

Is it only far right and nazis who is demonstrating against foreigners in UK ?

I got the impression that even ordinary citizens toke part in some of these demonstration and that it was mostly EDL who put up a fight with the police.

MarkusThese are no demonstrations, these are racist riots. The rioters are supporters of the English Defence League, far-right stoke brand Tommy Robinson ordinary citizens do not set fire to their own communities sure some were there, but the majority were fascist agitators from groups like the EDL. A mother of one of the murdered children felt compelled to issue an appeal to quell the violence. The mother was not listened to by the agitators, and a day later it was back on.

mapuc

08-08-24, 04:34 PM

Sooner or later ordinary citizens will get enough it's only a matter of time before they hit the streets in some European countries.

This will happen in UK, France, Germany, Italy and Sweden.

I wouldn't call it civil war what's going on in UK, I would more likely call it civil unrest

I despite People who is attacking and destroying people and stuff.

Markus

Jimbuna

08-09-24, 04:41 AM

Real live in the UK is different:

Is it only far right and nazis who is demonstrating against foreigners in UK ?

I got the impression that even ordinary citizens toke part in some of these demonstration and that it was mostly EDL who put up a fight with the police.

Markus

Well there's two people who are sensible enough to see it for what it actually is :Kaleun_Applaud:

Jimbuna

08-09-24, 05:09 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z8K0K_Vy4s

Moonlight

08-09-24, 05:56 AM

Good people forced to keep silent for fear of being branded criminals - this is out of Stasi Communist playbook - Peter Bleksley

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/good-people-forced-to-keep-silent-for-fear-of-being-branded-criminals-this-is-out-of-stasi-communist-playbook-peter-bleksley/ar-AA1ovIS0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=1fd8bc25690f455084f13f22a8649358&ei=13

I remember being given German history lessons of the 30's and 40's, the young school children were told by the state and by their school teachers to inform on their parents if they said anything untoward, yeah, bad mouth the state and we'll make sure you don't do it again, leave Starmer unchallenged and he'll bring something like that in.

Jimbuna

08-09-24, 06:20 AM

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Moonlight

08-09-24, 08:58 AM

Police force issues grovelling apology after it ignored dozens of emails to a dedicated violence against women and girls helpline for NINE months

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13727445/west-mercia-police-violence-against-women-helpline-apology.html

If this is the level of commitment from this female Assistant Chief Constable, she should resign and get a job more to her abilities, I hear that Tesco are needing some shelf stackers, even she couldn't screw that up, or could she?.

Jimbuna

08-09-24, 01:08 PM

‘I messed up’ over sacking of Greens which led to my resignation, admits Yousaf

Former first minister Humza Yousaf has said he “********* up” in his sacking of the Scottish Greens from his government which resulted in his resignation.

Unhappy about the ditching of government climate targets, Green members forced a vote on the Bute House Agreement, which would have forced its collapse.

But before the vote was held, Mr Yousaf decided to sack co-leaders Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater from his government and bring the deal to an end.

In response, the Greens said they would back a motion of no confidence in his premiership, effectively forcing Mr Yousaf’s resignation after just over a year in the job.

Appearing at an Edinburgh Festival Fringe event with broadcaster Matthew Stadlen on Thursday, the former first minister also pointed to an interview Mr Harvie did with the BBC where he appeared to question the scientific validity of the Cass Review into gender care for young people.

Yousaf said his “phone blew up” in the minutes after the broadcast.

“It wasn’t from the usual malcontents in my party, but reasonable, supportive people, saying this makes the Bute House Agreement very difficult to sustain and I need to think whether to continue it or not,” he continued.

“The miscalculation I made, is you tend to make your mistakes when you think like a politician in a political bubble and you forget the human dimension.

Look, I frankly, ********* up

Humza Yousaf, former first minister
“And what I did, in my miscalculation was to go, well, the Greens rely so heavily on the SNP for the list vote, if they vote against the SNP Government, and the SNP First Minister, it will be political suicide.

“Of course, the human dimension, which you must always think about, is you’re bringing in two of your ministers into Bute House and sacking them very publicly, and they are going to react very badly to that.”

He added: “I always said to myself, when I entered politics, that there were two things worth trying to do. One is never trade my principles or values, the other is when it’s time to go, own your mistakes that you make.

“Look, I frankly, ********* up.”

In the hours before his resignation, it was reported Mr Yousaf was in talks with the Alba Party to secure the vote of its lone MSP Ash Regan – who defected from the SNP under his leadership.

But he told the crowd such a deal would have been “impossible”, because party leader, and former first minister, Alex Salmond was pushing for an electoral pact between the two parties.

But Mr Yousaf said there was “no way” he would help in “rehabilitating Alex Salmond in the political sphere”.

A spokesman for the Alba Party said a deal between the two parties would have saved Mr Yousaf and made the election last month “about how many seats a pro independence alliance could’ve won as opposed to how many seats the SNP would lose to Labour”.

A document laying out Alba’s position in its negotiation with the former first minister, shared with the PA news agency, did not mention an electoral pact.

How could we trust that he would remain committed to the Green policies that were part of a deal he had just walked away from, such as rent controls and a ban on conversion practices?

Scottish Green Party co-leader Lorna Slater
Mr Yousaf also reflected on his time in office, saying he had not decided whether he would run again as an MSP in 2026, but said he would definitely not become first minister again if given the opportunity.

He also opened up on having a young family while leading a government.

While in Bute House, Mr Yousaf had a toddler and teenage daughter, and his wife Nadia El-Nakla has subsequently given birth to a baby girl, less than a month ago.

But among the most “heated” arguments the couple would have during his time in office, Mr Yousaf said, would be when she would accuse him of “just not spending enough time with the kids”.

He spoke of how she told him to “get your backside back home and see the kids”.

Speaking after Mr Yousaf’s appearance at the event, Scottish Green Party co-leader Lorna Slater said: “We respect a lot of the work that he did as first minister, particularly when it came to his commitment to social justice and his response to the genocide in Gaza.

“But we could not back him after he had caved in to some of the most reactionary elements of his party.

“How could we trust that he would remain committed to the Green policies that were part of a deal he had just walked away from, such as rent controls and a ban on conversion practices?”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/i-messed-up-over-sacking-of-greens-which-led-to-my-resignation-admits-yousaf/ar-AA1otbrj?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=6cb85551343e4aad8f96179b9981f857&ei=111

Jimbuna

08-09-24, 02:05 PM

Remember this?

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Jimbuna

08-10-24, 05:17 AM

Police Scotland to send 120 officers to Belfast after disorder

Police Scotland are to send 120 officers to Belfast over the next week to help quell threats of violence.

The force said it had received a mutual aid request from the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) ahead of expected anti-immigration demonstrations and counter protests on Friday.

A security operation is being put in place across Northern Ireland after 10 officers were injured and 26 people were arrested over six nights of rioting and disorder.

It comes after First Minister John Swinney wrote to social media companies Meta, TikTok and X calling for "immediate" action to tackle misinformation and hateful material which has fuelled violent scenes across parts of the UK.

Police Scotland said the officers would be loaned as part of the arrangement.

The PSNI’s assistant chief constable, Melanie Jones, said it would give the force “vital additional resilience” to deal with disorder.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgxwv50nq3o

Dargo

08-10-24, 07:00 AM

The racist violence in the UK is not a spontaneous eruption of popular anger, but the outcome of years of political radical propaganda. A thought experiment. Imagine that after terrorist violence by Muslim extremists, the very first reaction of progressive speechmakers would be that this is the result of right-wing politics looking away from the Western role in Middle East conflicts. What would be the consequence then? Those speechmakers would be buried in criticism, they would be dismissed as extremists, and perhaps their position in the public debate would be compromised. This would not even be entirely unjustified, as such a reaction shows little human compassion for the terror victims.

The point is, why do we tolerate many on the right immediately pointing the finger at the alleged responsibility of the left after the extreme violence in the UK in recent weeks? You read this not only among radical right-wing voices, but also among representatives of a more moderate, sensible right, including in other countries. Some feel that the left does not answer legitimate concerns about security, does not acknowledge the failure of our integration policies, does not replace socialisation and denial of problems with empowerment. A curious reaction, especially as the UK has just emerged from 14 years of right-conservative rule. In this case, wouldn't horror at the racist violence and looting in the high streets and sympathy for the victims have just been the logical first reaction? It is not about the individual, it is about the trend. Looking away has changed camps. Now on the right, it is difficult to name far-right violence as what it is: far-right violence that victimises and harms. There is a fairly widely shared belief that migrants who are victims of brutal street violence have themselves to blame. That victim-blaming corresponds to the idea that the far-right deftly markets, namely that pogrom-like street violence shows a kind of explosion of popular sentiment, brought to a boiling point by years of denied migration problems and crime. This is not true. The racist street violence of recent weeks, often directed specifically against Muslims, is the result of decades of political stigmatisation of Muslims and migrants in general. The fuse in the powder keg should certainly be named: the gruesome massacre by a 17-year-old young man at a holiday camp for young Taylor Swift fans in Southport. The perpetrator is a child of Rwandan migrant parents, but he was also born in Wales and brought up Christian. So as an excuse, if that were even possible, to attack Muslims and asylum centres, it can hardly apply.

That does not mean that migration does not cause problems. Those problems certainly exist, and the frustrations are real when it comes to the difficulty of effectively constraining an open economy like the European or British one. One of the big challenges is the uneven distribution of the impact of migration. The negative impact mainly affects lower-income groups, who see their immediate living environment changing and discoloured and experience this as displacement or competition. In contrast, higher income groups mainly benefit, reaping the benefits of prosperity from migrant labour in low-paid jobs. This analysis already offers an explanation as to why certain groups of Britons were guilty of racist street violence and looting. Certainly, it is intellectually lazy and downright paternalistic to condescendingly dismiss voters who vote for a xenophobic party or politician as 'losers of globalisation'. These very voters often consciously and wholeheartedly vote for a far-right anti-immigration programme.

Yet in the UK case, the economic component is hard to ignore. The UK economy has gone through a difficult period since Brexit, with a loss of 2 to 5 percentage points of economic growth. That is huge, and the hardest hit, of course, has been on the most vulnerable. Last year, poverty in the UK peaked at 18 per cent, and among children it is as high as 25 per cent. Much of this poverty and low-income is concentrated in northern England, particularly in the cities and neighbourhoods that experienced outbreaks of violence. It was also the residents of these cities and neighbourhoods who contributed to the Brexit majority at the time, in the now fading hope that independence would lead to less migration and more prosperity.

This is not to say that the violence and overt xenophobia are economically inspired. It does mean that politicians find in those economically vulnerable groups an audience susceptible to anti-immigration rhetoric. Because that is how the dynamic works: it is politicians who incite the population, not the other way around. Scientific opinion research shows that in the UK, as in other countries, negative ideas about migration and Islam have been strong for decades. That negative line remains fairly stable over time and does not suddenly dive even deeper. What did change is that politicians started to put migration criticism itself forward as a priority? As the left and right moved closer together socio-economically since Tony Blair and New Labour, identity and migration became the new distinctive themes in political debate. Right-wing populist Nigel Farage certainly played and is playing his part in this, but more importantly, the big, traditional Conservative party also opportunistically embraced the rhetoric against Europe and against migration. Voters were warmed up with expensive oaths about stopping migrants. Those promises proved unachievable, partly because the British economy needs and is actively attracting those migrants at the same time. This naturally increases voter frustration, which continues the spiral of new expectations and unachievable anti-immigrant promises. It is this infernal dynamic that has led to a derailment of violence.

Extremist provocateurs, like Tommy Robinson, also play a role in this, as does the media platform - X/ Twitter - that gives him every opportunity to spread hatred and lies. But that role is overestimated rather than underestimated. The far right has rarely been able to gain real political power through elections in the UK. A figure like Robinson remains marginal in many ways. And X-boss Elon Musk may take a peculiar pleasure in stirring things up, but the responsibility of classical media that helped stir up xenophobia for years may be greater. Here is where hope shines at first glance, the recent wave of violence in the UK might suggest that such street violence is also possible elsewhere. Yet there are crucial differences between the situation in the UK and these other countries. The socio-economic reality here is much less bleak (although we have our own challenges), and the media in other countries do not have the same activist-populist tradition (even if we too are not without fault).

Rockstar

08-10-24, 09:51 AM

Might explain why euros spend so much time talking smack about U.S. politics. It’s a safer environment.

UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: 'We'll come after you'
'Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law' the police commissioner warned

https://www.foxnews.com/media/uk-police-commissioner-threatens-extradite-jail-us-citizens-over-social-media-posts-we-come-afte

https://i.imgur.com/kiYAOq5.jpeg

mapuc

08-10-24, 10:03 AM

The racist violence in the UK is not a spontaneous eruption of popular anger, but the outcome of years of political radical propaganda.

What if it's due to reading about crime committed by foreigners/immigrant on daily basis. It doesn't go a day here in Denmark, without reading about crime committed by some refugees or immigrants. The Danes mentality is not UK's. They have it more in their mouth and in their writing hands-When some severe crime have been committed, the Danes write a huge bunch of angry words against the politicians. They do not go on riot.

Sadly it is EDL and some immigrant groups who is rioting and not demonstrating peacefully.

Markus

Shadowblade

08-10-24, 10:16 AM

Jimbuna

08-10-24, 11:05 AM

Not long back from a shopping trip to the City of Newcastle with the wife's stern warning "Remember when we're out, your a retired pensioner!"

A slightly heavier Police presence than a normal Saturday afternoon but the tell tale sign of multiple troop vans in various car parks no doubt full of personnel but all in all a quiet and pleasant atmosphere.

Hopefully that will carry on into the dark hours.

Dargo

08-10-24, 11:09 AM

Might explain why euros spend so much time talking smack about U.S. politics. It’s a safer environment.Boi you're surely easy to butthurt even in case this post is 99% European. We do not care for U.S. politics, it does not affect us, so why?

Dargo

08-10-24, 11:17 AM

What if it's due to reading about crime committed by foreigners/immigrant on daily basis. It doesn't go a day here in Denmark, without reading about crime committed by some refugees or immigrants. The Danes mentality is not UK's. They have it more in their mouth and in their writing hands-When some severe crime have been committed, the Danes write a huge bunch of angry words against the politicians. They do not go on riot.

Sadly it is EDL and some immigrant groups who is rioting and not demonstrating peacefully.

MarkusYou said it "some" so majority of immigrants are law-abiding citizen, so there is certainly no need to burn or attack all people of colour.

Rockstar

08-10-24, 05:29 PM

The Maduro regime has started marking the homes of families who oppose the regime with a large “X”

They are trying to terrorize people into submission and potentially prepare for large-scale operations against the opposition.

Meanwhile…. :o

https://i.ibb.co/VHzrH04/IMG-0331.jpg

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Buddahaid

08-10-24, 08:53 PM

"Elon Musk, has targeted Prime Minister Keir Starmer in a slew of posts, likening the UK to the Soviet Union, in the wake of far-right riots, caused by disinformation on Twitter."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEuJ3V1yzzQ&list=PLGNXhNKeaOmWgTQ3T7oA5ioACZvSB5cRC

All these rioting bozos that have been arrested will not be able to travel to the continent next year when background checks at the border will stop felons from crossing the border.

Rockstar

08-11-24, 06:41 AM

Kptlt. Neuerburg

08-11-24, 08:33 AM

This to some extent reminds me of the riots we've had over here not too long ago. WARNING: Foul Language, Violence, and Senseless Destruction of Property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdanhEKXsDA

MGR1

08-11-24, 09:09 AM

A surprisingly trolling article from BBC Scotland:

Why Scotland may have avoided far-right unrest (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9ej889w20o)

For more than a week, far-right violence has been flaring up in cities in England and Northern Ireland – but not so far in Scotland.

It begs the question, are we immune north of the border?

The violence began after the murders of three girls in Southport in Merseyside. Posts online falsely suggested the attacker was Muslim and an asylum seeker.

Mosques have been targeted, police officers hurt and businesses torched – including hotels known to house asylum seekers.

Historian Prof Murray Pittock is wary of the term "Scottish exceptionalism". This is a phrase used to describe a particular attitude, a sense of moral superiority - that things are different here; that views and attitudes are much more liberal and forward-thinking.Mike.

Jimbuna

08-11-24, 10:14 AM

Starmer will be judged on how he tackles root causes of riots

“This could have been so much worse,” a Downing Street adviser tells me. “People were trying to set fire to a hotel with people inside.”

But the prime minister, they insist, is “focussed” - and after a career spent largely in the criminal justice system “knows which levers to pull”.

Sir Keir Starmer was the chief prosecutor of England and Wales during the last major outbreak of civil unrest in the UK in 2011, overseeing the prosecution of thousands of people involved in five days of rioting.

Rapid and well-publicised action by the courts was key in bringing the unrest to an end, he said then. And this time ministers have emphasised “strong policing and swift prosecutions” to deter others joining the violence.

How best to get that message across to the public has been a regular discussion at emergency COBR (Cabinet Office Briefing Room) meetings.

Just as government scientists were front and centre in the pandemic, police chiefs and prosecutors have been wheeled out to land core messages with authority in this crisis.

Stephen Parkinson, the otherwise low-profile Director of Public Prosecutions, was put before the cameras. Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley made regular appearances.

Yet the prime minister and his aides have pointedly avoided answering questions about the underlying causes of the riots.

I’m told the reason for this message discipline is a concern that discussing causes might be misinterpreted as suggesting some of the unrest was justified.

What happens, though, when the violence stops, the guilty rioters have been sentenced and the COBR meetings are over?

“We are starting work on the longer term challenges,” sources say.

Tackling these challenges - even deciding what they are - is set to be a crucial test for the new government, with consequences stretching far beyond the communities affected by this week’s disorder.

As police cars were burning in the UK, the Chancellor Rachel Reeves was in the US trying to burnish the government’s reputation and encourage investment.

On Monday, she insisted the TV images of far-right mobs clashing with police would not damage the UK’s international reputation as a “safe haven for investment”, dismissing the protests as “thuggery”.

But the optics could hardly have been worse for a politician trying to project stability and order under a newly-elected government with a huge majority.

It is likely the towns and cities affected in the riots will receive government money to smooth their recoveries. Local community cohesion projects have also been mooted.

But money is tight. The challenging economic outlook and the chancellor’s reputation for fiscal discipline may be reasons why government sources tell me an expensive public inquiry is unlikely.

After the 1981 Brixton riots, Lord Scarman led one. But David Cameron and Nick Clegg resisted doing likewise after the unrest in 2011. They instead commissioned a cross-party panel to learn lessons.

The role of social media will be the subject of a Whitehall review, with ministers conceding that only nine months after the Online Safety Act became law, it already needs updating and strengthening.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ykr900my8o

Jimbuna

08-11-24, 10:45 AM

Crowds pay final respects to Southport attack victim Alice

Hundreds of people have paid their respects to one of the three girls killed in the Southport attacks.

Alice da Silva Aguiar, aged nine, died from her injuries in hospital a day after a knifeman attacked children attending a Taylor Swift-themed dance class on 29 July.

Bebe King, aged six, and Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, also died in the attack, where eight other girls and two adults were injured.

About 300 people gathered near the church, some held balloons and others released bubbles before a round of applause broke out as the cortege arrived.

Pink ribbons and balloons were tied to lampposts and garden walls.

Outside the packed church, many mourners listened as the service was broadcast through speakers.

Alice's parents Sergio and Alexandra were joined by family and friends at St Patrick's Catholic Church.

There was an area of the church set aside for the emergency services who worked with the family, while a second area was set aside for other families affected by the attacks, as well as classmates, friends and family.

The BBC understands wider family were watching the service via video-link in Portugal.

One speaker during the service was Alice's head teacher, Jinnie Payne, of Churchtown Primary School.

She described Alice as a "curious girl" who "never forgot the details".

Ms Payne said one of her teachers had named her baby after Alice, news that appeared to deeply affect her mother.

Among those paying their respects were Serena Kennedy, Chief Constable of Merseyside Police, along with about 30 uniformed police officers and representatives from the ambulance and fire services.

In an earlier tribute, Alice's parents said: "Keep smiling and dancing like you love to do our Princess, like we said before to you, you're always our princess and no one would change that."

The family, who is Portuguese, attended a celebration of her life on Tuesday, which is traditional in Portugal one week after a person has died.

Father John Heneghan, who lead the funeral service, previously told BBC Radio Merseyside that his abiding memory of Alice was of a "wonderfully happy girl" who brought "joy to her mum and dad".

He said the town's residents were "very bruised and would be for a long time" following the attack, adding that many were "horrified" by how the stabbings had been used as an excuse to spark disorder across the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyj8wz8157o

Jimbuna

08-12-24, 06:41 AM

Dozens of people are being sentenced today following unrest in parts of the UK over the last two weeks.

Courts are sitting in towns and cities including Northampton, Liverpool, Cannock, Bristol and Plymouth, as well as Belfast and Cardiff.

On Friday, the first sentences were handed down in relation to social media content posted during anti-immigration demonstrations.

At least 779 people have been arrested so far in connection with the disorder, 349 of those have been charged.

Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood says the impact of the riots will be felt "for years"

Rockstar

08-12-24, 07:42 AM

Nigel Farage accusing PM Keir Starmer of double standards:

“At the time of the BLM riots when our police were being injured, when historical monuments were being torn down, he chose to take the knee”

He said Starmer is “our greatest threat to free speech”

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Jimbuna

08-12-24, 09:47 AM

'Labour faces a big dilemma as they eye up pension funds as tax revenue opportunity' - John Redwood

The government with a politically contrived black hole in its finances and an insatiable wish to spend is considering who to raid next to pay the bills.

Pensioners seem to be an easy target as they are not covered by Labour's carefully worded tax promises for working people in the election.

We have already been told pensioners will lose their Winter Fuel Payment if they are not on benefits. Should they make people and their employers pay more for their future pensions? Should they change the tax-free sum people can take out when they retire?

The government faces a big dilemma. Looking at the large sums in aggregate in pension funds, they see an opportunity for more tax revenue.

They also see huge amounts of investment money that they think could do more to boost UK growth.
If only the managers of those funds would see the opportunities in UK-based utility and private equity investment instead of buying foreign shares and piles of UK government bonds, the UK could build more homes and wind farms.

Let us suppose Plan A, going for faster growth, has, in the Chancellor's mind at least, survived the first month's encounter with the realities.

The big idea is to speed up growth so more tax revenue will pour in naturally as more people in more jobs pay more income tax, National Insurance and VAT.

Labour can then afford more state investment and better wages for public sector workers.

That, she argues, needs a big surge in investment in everything from more power stations and grid to many new and bigger water pipes, more digital success stories, more trains and many more houses.

The Chancellor needs to ask herself why more of this has not already been happening.

She seems to think doubling down on Treasury disciplines will create stability which will lead private investors to rush to invest their monies here.

There is no evidence that will happen.

The grim record of Treasury orthodoxy is more austerity.

The UK in the last month has not projected an image of stability, with riots highlighted by the government in every news broadcast.

The Chancellor herself has allowed rumours to run of coming tax rises on capital gains and maybe some profits deemed excessive, higher contributions by employers to pensions, more regulation of online businesses, a further toughening of rules on letting out homes and more tax and intervention in our dear energy markets.

None of this will help a foreign investor rush to buy UK investments or persuade a UK pension manager to sell the bonds and co-invest with the government in carbon capture and storage or a hydrogen plant.

So the government turns as well to see if it can amalgamate pension funds prior to influencing if not directing them.

It wants them to take more risks by buying all these new UK assets the government wants to promote.

They argue that if funds were bigger, covering more people, they could take more risk with a portion of the money.

The problem is these riskier investments cost a lot more money to manage contrary to continuous regulatory pressure on managers to keep fees down.

The Government also runs into the brick wall of Trustee responsibility who need to control risks and make sure funds are liquid enough to pay out the pensions on time whatever the level of markets.

It might need contentious legislation to take power to direct investment in the way it wishes.

The government will discover a simple truth about investing.

People and pension funds invest when they see an opportunity for profit.

If they think a government will tax excess profits leaving them with the losses, that makes it less attractive.

If the new assets on offer are highly regulated, with plenty of upfront costs and a long time to await positive returns, why would people freely invest without government incentives and guarantees?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-faces-a-big-dilemma-as-they-eye-up-pension-funds-as-tax-revenue-opportunity-john-redwood/ar-AA1oES4U?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3053368f5bda47b285dac2dc2f992a75&ei=35

Rockstar

08-12-24, 10:10 AM

Girl, 11, and woman, 34, stabbed in central London
8 minutes ago
Liz Jackson, Harry Low & Frankie McCamley
BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg5xx0gly8o

A shop security guard has said he tried to save an 11-year-old girl as she was being attacked by a knifeman in London's Leicester Square.
In a post on X, the Met Police said a man had been arrested and taken into custody, after the girl and a 34-year-old woman were stabbed.
Abdullah, 29, who works at TWG tea in Leicester Square, said he intervened to stop the attacker and, with help from colleagues, gave first aid to the child.
The Met said it did not believe there were "any outstanding suspects" and there was no suggestion the incident was terror-related "at this stage".…

Nothing to see here, all is well.

https://i.ibb.co/BBt7Hd9/IMG-0345.jpg

Dargo

08-12-24, 11:44 AM

Girl, 11, and woman, 34, stabbed in central London
8 minutes ago
Liz Jackson, Harry Low & Frankie McCamley
BBC News

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg5xx0gly8o

Nothing to see here, all is well.

https://i.ibb.co/BBt7Hd9/IMG-0345.jpgAnd your point is?

Jimbuna

08-12-24, 11:57 AM

And your point is?

Precisely.

Jimbuna

08-12-24, 12:07 PM

Record Number of Migrants Reach Britain in a Single Day

On Sunday, a new record was set in Britain—more than 700 migrants crossed the English Channel in small boats on a single day, marking the highest number since Prime Minister Keir Starmer assumed office.

This trend stands in contrast to the prime minister's promise to crack down on human smuggling operations.

According to the UK’s Interior Ministry and AFP, 703 people arrived on British shores in 11 boats on Sunday.

This surge in arrivals comes as the government faces increasing pressure to address illegal migration, a key issue in July's general election.

After taking office, Starmer reversed the previous Conservative government's plan to deport migrants to Rwanda. Instead, he focused on dismantling smuggling networks that charge migrants large sums for the dangerous journey.
This recent increase in migrant crossings follows a period of heightened tensions in the United Kingdom.

Anti-migrant riots broke out after a knife attack on July 29 that killed three children. False reports on social media claimed the attacker was a Muslim immigrant, which fueled the unrest.

To address the ongoing migrant crisis, Prime Minister Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron have pledged to work together to combat the rise in illegal migration.

So far in 2024, the number of migrants crossing the English Channel has reached 18,342, which is 13% more than the same period last year.

The previous Conservative government had proposed deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda to deter migrants, but the plan never went into effect.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/record-number-of-migrants-reach-britain-in-a-single-day/ar-AA1oECm4?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=a4015400b3c94919905ad9365b75b1af&ei=58

Rockstar

08-12-24, 12:10 PM

I read pensioners are afraid to even go near a police presence monitoring peaceful protests.

Jimbuna

08-12-24, 12:15 PM

@Dargo

You have a pm.

Jimbuna

08-12-24, 12:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsq96AhQ5_8

Rockstar

08-12-24, 12:22 PM

I understand, with Starmer increasing internet monitoring it’s probably not good idea to criticize government lack of concern of cause of increased in murder rates. You might get labeled far-right or thrown in jail. Lol

https://i.ibb.co/vHVMz4W/IMG-0344.jpg

mapuc

08-12-24, 12:27 PM

Precisely.

We should not neglect the fact that there are some foreigners and immigrants who don't know how to behave as we also should know that there are ethical British citizens who use knife/pistol other tools as weapon against others.

To generalize is so wrong.

Markus

Jimbuna

08-13-24, 04:54 AM

Seven men are due to appear in court in Basingstoke later charged with violent disorder after a protest in Aldershot.

One of the men is also accused of assaulting an emergency worker.

A 13-year-old girl is also due to appear in court in connection with the same protest.

Several other people across England will be sentenced later for their roles in the recent riots - including for affray and publishing material online.

On Monday, the government said it was on “high alert” and “not complacent” over the riots, which were sparked after the fatal stabbing of three girls in Southport.

Rockstar

08-13-24, 06:47 AM

https://youtu.be/FN75_zhlE5g

Jimbuna

08-13-24, 10:59 AM

Politicians are framing protests and riots to serve their political agenda - the Left does this to perfection - Sally-Ann Hart

Rioting is illegal; protesting is legal. The law clearly distinguishes between the two, yet recently, politics is blurring this distinction.

The Labour government considers that some political views are more palatable than others, with this view leeching into our independent judiciary, which appears to base judicial decisions increasingly on politics, rather than law.

A riot is a violent disorder "involving 12 or more people who use or threaten violence for a common purpose, causing others to fear for their safety". Protests, however, are legal, subject to certain conditions.

Politicians often frame protests and riots in ways that serve their political agendas, and the Left does this to perfection - some protests are branded as ‘violent riots’ instead of ‘peaceful demonstrations’.
Were the pro-Palestinian demonstrations riots because of the outbreaks of violence and the chilling chants of ‘from the river to the sea’? Not according to many Labour politicians, even though these marches have caused a significant number of British Jews to fear for their safety and suffer an alarming rise in antisemitism.

What about disruptive Just Stop Oil or Extinction Rebellion protests that break the law? Not a worry for Labour, which accepted donations from the Just Stop Oil backer, Dale Vince.

The Labour government must uphold British values if it is to quell the disquiet on our streets. The five British values, compulsorily taught in all our schools (for how much longer?) are the Rule of Law, Democracy, Mutual Respect, Individual Liberty and Tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs.

Of these, the Rule of Law is a fundamental principle which must be consistently applied and safeguarded.

Crucially, everyone, regardless of their position or status, must be subject to the same rules and procedures to maintain an open, fair and peaceful society.

The law must be fair and be seen to be fair. Transparency, equal treatment and accessible justice contribute to this perception.

The unrest on our streets shows that, irrespective of the root cause of these riots, a significant number of Britons no longer believe that the Rule of Law is being fairly applied, perceiving that the police and courts show political bias when handling some protests.

In 2023, five fanatical Just Stop Oil members received absolute discharges having blocked a road near an oil terminal; the judge sympathising with their cause despite them having clearly broken the law.

Similar examples of leniency being shown for political reasons include the Stansted 15, Extinction Rebellion protestors and the Colston Four, acquitted in 2022 after toppling Edward Colston’s statue during a Black Lives Matter protest.

Whilst this incident involved criminal damage to property it was considered a ‘targeted act with symbolic intent’ rather than a riot. Most of the law-abiding silent majority disagree.

The violent nature of these protests did not prevent the current Prime Minister and his deputy from kowtowing to violence by bending the knee, despite the clear criminal behaviour. Politicians must act responsibly even in Opposition but now, under the former Director of Public Prosecutions, our Prime Minister, we see the continued erosion of the Rule of Law.

Political bias in handling riots and protests has long-term consequences, deepening societal divisions, and eroding the Rule of Law and public trust.

When legal decisions appear politically motivated, it undermines the legitimacy of both the judicial and political systems and threatens the democratic principles of fairness, justice and equality.

Upholding the Rule of Law is essential if the Labour government has any hope of quelling the disquiet growing in our society.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/politicians-are-framing-protests-and-riots-to-serve-their-political-agenda-the-left-does-this-to-perfection-sally-ann-hart/ar-AA1oHIXv?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=4e9663ffb1db45da99c5a647ddd8978c&ei=34

Jimbuna

08-13-24, 11:24 AM

Fury as humiliated Labour MP in trouble once again after blaming UK riots on Israel

The controversial Labour MP Clive Lewis has blasted over claims he blamed Israel for the far-right UK riots.

In a tweet late last week, he linked to an article about Israel's attack on a school-turned-shelter in Gaza that killed 80 people.

Clive Lewis said: "The link between the daily inhumanity being meted out to Palestinians and rising Islamophobia in the UK are not unconnected.

"The inhumanity being shown to one is giving 'permission' for the other. These actions diminish us all."

The Labour Against Antisemitism group told Sky News that the claim was "highly irresponsible" and demanded Mr Lewis' immediate suspension from the Labour Party.

Co-director Alex Hearn said: "It is very concerning that people across the political spectrum, from 'anti-racists' to the far right, have fantasised that 'Zionists' and Israel are to blame for unrest across Britain".
"A recent report by the Community Security Trust showed antisemitism in the last six months has gone up 105%, and that the pretext for these 1,978 incidents are often Palestine. This includes synagogues targeted 76 times and 121 assaults.

"For a Labour MP to blame a conflict thousands of miles away for the recent racism in far-right riots in Britain is highly irresponsible.

"When attacks against British Jews exploded following the Hamas 7 October massacre, no such link was made by Mr Lewis."

Mr Lewis recently sparked outrage after making a protest during his swearing in as an MP after the election, when he had to declare an oath to the King.

He was then forced to retake the oath, after having forgotten to pledge allegiance to King Charles' heirs and successors as well.

Labour has rejected demands to suspend Mr Lewis over the accusation against Israel.

A spokesman for the party said: "All complaints are treated seriously and thoroughly assessed in line with our rules and procedures".

While Sir Keir Starmer's spokesman said the PM would disagree with the Norwich MP's allegation, former Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell has leapt to his defence.

The Labour grandee said: "It's a bizarre warped logic that accuses Clive Lewis of antisemitism when he comments on how the visible inhumanity towards Muslims in Gaza displayed daily on our screens feeds into the inhumanity of some in our own country towards Muslims here."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/fury-as-humiliated-labour-mp-in-trouble-once-again-after-blaming-uk-riots-on-israel/ar-AA1oJy4M?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=d38677daa7fb41c3932c7eae9430e278&ei=15

Skybird

08-13-24, 06:20 PM

https://youtu.be/QAIQyTPW7CI?si=qhK2FvmyWVjMJdha

Soon in other countries, too.

Rockstar

08-13-24, 08:09 PM

https://youtu.be/QAIQyTPW7CI?si=qhK2FvmyWVjMJdha

Soon in other countries, too.

Sounds like he’s saying due to mismanagement and large cuts in government health care services they want to blame climate change? Just more government psyops, what the hell is this world coming too?

Jimbuna

08-14-24, 08:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwCWms-0YUA

Jimbuna

08-14-24, 12:50 PM

Government to make ‘tough decisions’ on economy after inflation blow

Inflation has risen for the first time this year, official figures show, in a blow to Sir Keir Starmer after his first month in power.

The Government will take “tough decisions” to fix the economy, chief Treasury secretary Darren Jones said, after the rate of Consumer Prices Index inflation rose to 2.2% in July.

“The new Government is under no illusion as to the scale of the challenge we have inherited, with many families still struggling with the cost of living,” Mr Jones added.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/government-to-make-tough-decisions-on-economy-after-inflation-blow/ar-AA1oLK7A?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8c1463749d5e482a829c5dd814b38070&ei=34

Jimbuna

08-15-24, 07:42 AM

Met failing in almost all work areas - inspectorate

The Metropolitan Police is failing in almost all its areas of work, the police inspectorate has said.

The force was assessed across nine areas and graded as "requires improvement" or "inadequate" in seven - including investigating and preventing crime.

HM Inspector of Constabulary Lee Freeman said many changes had already been made but not yet resulted in "consistent improvements".

The Met said it was "using every available resource to deliver more trust, less crime and high standards".

His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire & Rescue Services (HMICFRS) inspected the force for the 2023-25 period, external.

Mr Freeman highlighted:

The Met was "inconsistent" in managing sex offenders, with a backlog of visits and risk assessment in some teams

It has more work to do to make sure it "consistently assesses the level of risk" for all 999 and 101 calls when considering a response

The force "hasn’t met its goal of reducing the number of outstanding suspects"

There were "significant issues in the standards of investigation, victim care and investigation management" in the Met's victim service, and "some offences involving vulnerable people aren’t being investigated by suitably trained investigators"

The Met has been in an enhanced monitoring process known as Engage since a previous inspection in 2022. Engage is used when a force is "not succeeding in managing, mitigating or eradicating" a cause of concern.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qe1g4g751o

Jimbuna

08-15-24, 12:39 PM

Humiliation for SNP as latest new figures deliver final fatal blow to independence dreams

Scotland's deficit has grown by nearly £5billion over the past year, according to new figures, bringing it to more than twice the size of that of the UK's - dealing one last crushing blow to the SNP and its allies.

The data highlights the "clear and undeniable benefit of the remaining part of the UK", in a huge blow to the Nats' dreams of Scottish Independence, 10 years on from the "once in a lifetime" referendum back in 2014.

Including revenues from North Sea oil and gas, the Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) report-compiled by the SNP Government-revealed a net fiscal deficit of £22.68bn for 2023-24, up from just over £18bn the previous year.

As a percentage of GDP, Scotland's deficit rose from 8.4 percent to 10.4 percent, while the overall UK deficit decreased during the same period. Meanwhile, total revenue for the Scottish Government increased from £86.9bn to £88.5 billion.
Additionally, UK Government spending per person in Scotland is £2,417 higher than in the rest of the UK, with an average of £20,418 spent per person north of the border. While Scotland represents about 8.2 percent of the UK population, it accounts for 9.1 percent of UK public spending - yet again proving the Scotland is better of as part of the Union.

It comes after the SNP suffered a humiliating General Election defeat last month, losing its position as the third-largest party in Westminster and losing the vast majority of its MPs to Labour.

UK Government Minister for Scotland Kirsty McNeill said: "These figures underline the collective economic strength of the United Kingdom. By pooling and sharing resources across the UK, Scots benefit by £2,417 more per head in public spending than the UK average.

"That means more money for schools and hospitals, if the Scottish Parliament chooses to invest in those areas.

"Ensuring economic stability and then delivering economic growth are two of the driving missions of the UK Government.

"We have reset relationships with partners across the UK, and want to work closely with the Scottish Government to produce better results for people in Scotland."

Alastair Cameron, chair of Scotland in Union, said: "The fiscal transfer to Scotland means billions of pounds of extra money for vital public services like the NHS and schools.

"That is the clear and undeniable benefit of remaining part of the UK, which is the positive future for our country chosen by the people of Scotland.

"The negative vision of the SNP and the Scottish Green Party would result in less money being available for services that so many people rely upon. In the 2026 Holyrood election we will have an opportunity to vote the nationalists out and build an even brighter future for Scotland."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/humiliation-for-snp-as-latest-new-figures-deliver-final-fatal-blow-to-independence-dreams/ar-AA1oOaJZ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=4b8cef89d6dd419096110213cfc785d7&ei=18

Jimbuna

08-16-24, 07:58 AM

Roger Haywood, 41, from Blackpool, is sentenced to two years and six months for violent disorder and two counts of assaulting an emergency worker.

The judge says Haywood kicked the arm of one police officer and the hand of another during unrest in the town on 3 August.

Meanwhile Kieran Usher, 32, from Hendon in Sunderland, is the first adult in England to be charged with the more serious offence of riot.

About 460 people have been arrested so far in connection with the disorder across the UK, with at least 99 sentences handed down, according to the Ministry of Justice.

Jimbuna

08-16-24, 10:41 AM

Two men are sentenced for their roles in what a judge called "12 hours of racist, hate-fuelled mob violence" during riots in Hull on 3 August.

David Wilkinson, 48, is jailed for six years and John Honey, 25, is sentenced to four years and eight months.

Jimbuna

08-17-24, 12:03 PM

I'm beginning to think I chose the wrong vocation in life :hmmm:

Farage earns more than £1m a year for non-MP work

Nigel Farage has revealed he is earning well over a £1m a year from work he does outside parliament, in addition to his job as an MP.

It is thought his outside income is significantly higher than that of any other member of parliament.

The majority of the Reform UK leader's earnings come from his work presenting on the GB News television channel - which alone pays him almost £1.2m a year.

Reform UK have been approached for a comment.

The disclosures were made in the latest Register of Members' Financial Interests, external, published by parliament.

Mr Farage is obliged to declare all his outside earnings following his election as MP for Clacton in Essex in July.

As a member of parliament Mr Farage has a basic annual salary of £91,346 plus expenses for his office and staff, and housing costs either in his constituency or in London.

Over and above that he has declared he is paid £97,928.40 a month by GB News Ltd for 32 hours work a month presenting on its TV channel, equating to an annual salary from GB News of £1,175,140.80.

Mr Farage suspended his show, which airs Monday to Thursday each week, to focus on the election campaign, but he has now returned to the channel.

The Clacton MP said he has also been paid £16,597.22 for recording personalised video messages for individuals through the Cameo.com website.

In his declaration he said he works around 24 hours a month for Cameo.

The US-based service charges $90 (£70) for each short video recorded by Mr Farage.

Its website describes him as a "former UK politician" and says "customers can request messages for a variety of occasions, from birthdays and retirements to roasts and motivational pep talks. Nigel is often asked to reference his political views on Brexit, immigration, and the Reform UK party".

Other earnings declared by Mr Farage include £4,000 a month from the Daily Telegraph newspaper for 16 hours work a month writing articles - and income from social media including £1,551.29 from X and £853 from Meta, which owns Facebook.

The total time Mr Farage estimates he spends on work outside parliament for his TV, video-recording and newspaper writing equates to around 72 hours a month, the equivalent of nine full working days.

Under other interests Mr Farage has disclosed he took a trip to the US after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump in July. The trip was funded by a private donation from Christopher Harborne, who is a crypto currency investor who has previously donated to Reform UK, the Brexit Party and Boris Johnson.

Mr Farage described the purpose of the visit as "to support a friend who was almost killed and to represent Clacton on the world stage".

He estimated the cost of the flights and accommodation for himself and one staff member to be £32,836.

Mr Farage disclosed one further trip to speak at the National Conservatism Conference in Brussels in April this year, putting the cost for the single night visit to Belgium for himself, a staffer and "security provision" at £9,253.50.

That trip was funded by George Cottrell, a former aide to Mr Farage who spent eight months in jail in the US in 2017 after he was caught in an FBI sting operation telling undercover officers he could launder money for them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wjgkr1750o

Jimbuna

08-18-24, 04:59 AM

To say I'm disgusted would be an understatement.

Reeves buries report revealing 'devastating' impact on pensioners of winter fuel axe

RACHEL Reeves has buried a report revealing the "devastating" impact of axing winter fuel payments for millions of pensioners.

The Chancellor is believed to have ordered officials to draw up an assessment showing how her decision will hit vulnerable people struggling to keep homes warm.

But she is refusing to make it public - or to say whether it was compiled before or after the general election.

Last night furious MPs urged her to "come clean" about how many pensioners will go cold this winter.

Retired police officers yesterday joined protests against the cuts and claimed the Treasury had "failed to grasp reality with this policy".

Impact assessments are routinely published when governments cut benefits but Ms Reeves is refusing to release the findings - or even to confirm if or when an investigation was carried out.
Furious critics claim she had either been reckless or had something to hide.

Shadow energy secretary Claire Coutinho said: "The Chancellor has made a choice to axe Winter Fuel Payments for vulnerable pensioners whilst delivering inflation busting pay rises demanded by her union paymasters and refusing to clamp down on the welfare bill."

She demanded the Chancellor "come clean" and admit exactly how many pensioners will suffer, including the number on low incomes.

Dennis Reed, director of pensioners' campaign group Silver Voices, said: "This will have a devastating impact on some of the most vulnerable people.

"They should now reveal the findings of any impact assessment, and if they haven't done one at all then it's a dereliction of duty."

Winter fuel payments are to become a means-tested benefit available only to pensioners receiving pension credit - excluding 10 million of the 11.4 million people currently eligible, including some with incomes below £12,000.

Ms Reeves claimed the decision was essential because she inherited "a £22 billion hole in the public finances" from the previous government.

But at the same time, she has spent £9.4 billion on additional public sector pay rises on top of those previously planned by the Tories, including a 22 per cent increase for junior doctors.

And last week the Government announced a bumper 14.25 per cent rise for train drivers and said the pay award would end strikes, only for union Aslef to announce a fresh wave of industrial action two days later.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/reeves-buries-report-revealing-devastating-impact-on-pensioners-of-winter-fuel-axe/ar-AA1oYlCX?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=0352feea95bf4fabbdb65554c2400969&ei=15

Jimbuna

08-18-24, 06:35 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/L5qjWPmH/455674089-10232536861744576-422517461711833913-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Moonlight

08-19-24, 06:05 AM

REVEALED: The Labour cabinet ministers who are using YOUR cash to warm THEIR homes after stripping ten million pensioners of their winter fuel payments

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13755571/Labour-cabinet-ministers-using-cash-warm-homes.html

These MPs don't give a toss about pensioners or the traditional working classes, their new replacements from around the world will fill in the shortfall from all those lost votes and, they don't complain about benefits either as they're well looked after.
Suck it up peeps if you voted for these currants and, if you didn't, just think on, there was only one party who wanted to change the status quo, not that you thick currants even know what that means.
Only 5 more years of this lot, what then?, vote the Tories back in?, you've all screwed yourselves voting for those 2 main parties over the years, welcome to a world where your vote isn't needed or wanted and welcome to the world of the Migrant vote.

You Bleeding Muppets. :haha:

Jimbuna

08-19-24, 07:21 AM

Energy bills to surge by £150 as Reeves prepares to scrap winter fuel payments

Energy bills are forecast to rise by nearly £150 later this year in a move that will pile further pressure on millions of pensioners set to lose their winter fuel payments.

Analysts at Cornwall Insight said the energy price cap was likely to rise by 9pc to £1,714 in October when Ofgem, the regulator, issued its update on Friday.

This would mark a £146 increase from the current rate of £1,568, the lowest price cap for two years.

It is equivalent to almost three-quarters of the £200 given to the UK’s 11.4m pensioners to help heat their homes every winter, a benefit which is being scaled back by Rachel Reeves this year.

Currently, pensioners aged over 80 receive a higher payment of £300.

The Chancellor announced plans earlier this month to axe winter fuel payments for 10m pensioners as she scrambles to plug a £22bn black hole in the public finances which she claims was left by the Tories.
Under the changes, winter fuel payments will be restricted to those already claiming means-tested benefits, such as pension credit.

Ms Reeves described the move, which comes into effect in November, as “fair and right” despite warnings that millions of pensioners on low incomes would be hit the hardest.

However, the planned £1.4bn savings could be wiped out by an unintended £4bn benefit bill if hundreds of thousands of retirees rush to claim pension credit to qualify for winter fuel payments, data analysts Policy in Practice have warned.

Craig Lowrey, principal consultant at Cornwall Insight, said: “This is not the news households want to hear when moving into the colder months. Following two consecutive falls in the cap, I’m sure many hoped we were on a steady path back to pre-crisis prices.

“However, the lingering impact of the energy crisis has left us with a market that’s still highly volatile and quick to react to any bad news on the supply front.”

The predicted price cap increase comes amid warnings that Britain’s reliance on foreign imports is leaving households exposed to higher prices.

Cornwall Insight noted that although energy prices have stabilised, they have not fully recovered from the energy crisis and the impact of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/energy-bills-to-surge-by-150-as-reeves-prepares-to-scrap-winter-fuel-payments/ar-AA1p2Mcl?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=6daca61569ea4359bd3531086295d586&ei=27

Onkel Neal

08-19-24, 07:31 AM

What is going on in the UK? Man, I'm hearing that the police and govt are going crazy, going after people who post non-PC stuff on social media. For real?

Jimbuna

08-19-24, 07:55 AM

What is going on in the UK? Man, I'm hearing that the police and govt are going crazy, going after people who post non-PC stuff on social media. For real?

Don't be sucked in by everything the press puts out Neal.

These people are breaking the law and were forewarned of harsh consequences well in advance.

Jimbuna

08-20-24, 08:53 AM

A 34-year-old man has been sentenced to a year and eight months in prison for his part in disorder that broke out in Bristol earlier this month

Bradley McCarthy, 34, of Knowle, joined an anti-immigration march on 3 August - he later pleaded guilty to violent disorder after using racist slurs against counter-protesters and shouting at police officers and their dog.

Apprentice bricklayer Alfie Conway, 19, of Park Avenue, South Kirby, Pontefract has been jailed for two years and three months at Sheffield Crown Court - he pleaded guilty to violent disorder after throwing missiles at police protecting a hotel housing asylum seekers in Rotherham.

A single father who took part in clashes with the police during an anti-immigration protest in Bristol has been jailed for two and a half years - Craig Timbrell, 38, of Hartcliffe also pleaded guilty to violent disorder after throwing concrete blocks, bricks and bottles at police near to a hotel used to house asylum seekers.

And roofer Alfie Arrowsmith, 28, has been sentenced to 16 months' imprisonment for his role in the unrest on Whitehall, central London days after the fatal stabbing attack in Southport - he pleaded guilty to one charge of violent disorder after being filmed repeatedly confronting police and shouting "come on then" and "let's have it"

Jimbuna

08-21-24, 08:00 AM

Yvette Cooper's plan to tackle illegal migration is branded 'a farce'

Labour's flagship border security announcement was condemned as a 'farce' last night amid a catalogue of confusion over Yvette Cooper's new target to deport failed asylum seekers.

The Home Secretary pledged the number of removals of failed applicants and others with no right to be in Britain will increase to the 'highest level since 2018' – levels already exceeded under the Conservatives last year.

Figures show there were 24,938 removals – enforced and voluntary – in 2018. In 2023, the figure was 26,264.

A Labour spokesman said the target applied to total removals from July to December only. But, again, the figure for the second half of 2018 – 11,528 – was beaten by nearly 3,000 in the same period last year, when 14,389 foreign nationals were removed from the country under the Tories.
After being challenged over the figures, a Home Office spokesman later said the target was to remove more people than any six-month period since 2018, including from April to September last year when 14,484 were removed.

Yet again, however, that figure was exceeded under the Tories between October and March this year, with 14,703.

Robert Jenrick, the former immigration minister and Tory leadership hopeful, said: 'This farcical target shows Labour are completely clueless about border security. Less than two months in and it's already a shambles. They've scrapped... the Rwanda policy and their border security unit is still without a commander.'

He added: 'Sir Keir Starmer has surrendered to the people smuggling gangs and it's the British public who will pay the price.'

Alp Mehmet, chairman of Migration Watch UK which campaigns for tougher border controls, said: 'The Government has either screwed up by failing to analyse the figures, or it is trying to deceive the public. Neither is acceptable.'

Ms Cooper also announced 'up to 100' officers will join the National Crime Agency to target trafficking gangs by the end of the year –a 33 per cent rise on current numbers deployed on border security.

In addition, 300 extra Home Office caseworkers have been redeployed to process removals. In a further move, Ms Cooper said she was increasing the capacity of immigration removals centres, including 290 spaces at Campsfield House, near Oxford, and Haslar at Gosport, Hants.

The reopening of the disused centres was first announced by the Conservatives in 2022.

There will also be a new 'intelligence-driven programme' to target employers who hire illegal workers.

Ms Cooper said: 'We are taking strong and clear steps to boost our border security and ensure the rules are respected and enforced. Our new Border Security Command is already gearing up, with new staff being urgently recruited and additional staff already stationed across Europe.'

She vowed to establish a system that is 'better controlled and managed, in place of the chaos that has blighted the system for far too long'.

But shadow home secretary James Cleverly, also running to be Tory leader, said the measures fail to even 'scratch the surface', insisting: 'Labour clearly aren't serious about tackling the people smugglers or stopping the boats.'

It came as the Home Office confirmed 206 migrants crossed the Channel by small boat on Monday, bringing the total this year to 19,294.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/yvette-cooper-s-plan-to-tackle-illegal-migration-is-branded-a-farce/ar-AA1p8VYF?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=57d9b5d997454cd4b7c783306bbee871&ei=64

Rockstar

08-21-24, 12:07 PM

Don't be sucked in by everything the press puts out Neal.

These people are breaking the law and were forewarned of harsh consequences well in advance.

So it’s not far right racist extremists the press is saying it is?

It’s actually people protesting skyrocketing murder rates, immigration, a crap economy, lack of police protection, government oppression and dumb ass police chiefs in London threatening to come after me after all?

Jimbuna

08-21-24, 12:37 PM

‘Treated like an animal’ - officers say Met racism getting worse

A black Metropolitan Police officer has described being treated like “an animal” by some of his white colleagues and accused the force of handing down “pathetic punishments” to those who have made racist comments.

He is one of 10 black and ethnic minority officers who told the BBC that racism is getting worse in Britain’s largest police force.

“They keep putting you down, putting you down until you break and you feel nothing, no confidence, nothing,” he said.

Assistant Commissioner Pippa Mills, who is the Met’s lead on trust and legitimacy, told the BBC she was “incredibly sorry to hear those accounts from those officers", adding: "It’s really difficult to hear."

And in a statement, a Met spokesperson said: "We are deeply concerned to hear these accounts and we are so sorry that there are people in the Met who feel this way about working here.

"It is completely unacceptable and whatever progress we think we have made, it is simply not enough."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crger07nx4lo

Rockstar

08-21-24, 12:55 PM

https://youtu.be/wQZX8n7IFR0

https://youtu.be/WczrVsZYccI

Rockstar

08-21-24, 06:34 PM

“Let’s police speech, they were warned, throw them in prison.” Time to wake-up and realize you’re the fascists.

https://youtu.be/DfVTtrf0XPk

Jimbuna

08-22-24, 08:36 AM

Conspiracy theorist grandad jailed over disorder

A "conspiracy theorist" who abused police when an anti-immigration protest turned violent has been jailed.

Grandfather Peter Lynch, 61, went to the Holiday Inn Express in Manvers, Rotherham, on 4 August with a placard which called police officers, MPs and the media "corrupt".

He shouted "racist and provocative remarks" towards officers and called asylum seekers in the hotel "child killers", the Recorder of Sheffield Judge Jeremy Richardson KC told Sheffield Crown Court during his sentencing.

Lynch pleaded guilty to a charge of violent disorder and was jailed for two years and eight months on Thursday.

"Family man" Lynch, who recently had a heart attack, had gone to protest at the hotel against immigration, his defence barrister said.

He had "a general conspiracy theory against anyone and any form of authority", and his placard referenced the "deep state" and space agency Nasa.

Video played to the court showed Lynch "revving up" the situation before it turned violent, the judge said.

He was filmed calling the police "scum".

His sign and protest was not unlawful, but his verbal abuse towards police officers during the "racist incident" crossed the line, the judge added.

Lynch, of Burman Road, Wath-upon-Dearne, was a "full participant" in the disorder, the court was told.

"You were unquestionably endeavouring to the rev up the situation the best you could," Judge Richardson added.

The placard stated that police chiefs, reporters, civil servants, judges and the Environment Agency were all "corrupt".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8x5x51l3vo

Moonlight

08-22-24, 08:59 AM

There are two sides of a coin, you've seen what's been happening to the white people, the other side of that coin is vastly different, Migrants can slap a woman and the police do nothing about it, this has been going on for over 20 years. It's no wonder they're kicking a fuss up, the police have been fully complicit in this betrayal of the indigenous people and that's why there's very little respect for them in parts of the country.

Moment male customer hits Nando's waitress with a plate in 'unprovoked' attack as she serves food to his table where he was dining with woman and small child

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13768569/moment-customer-nandos-waitress-plate-attack.html

If that had occurred where I live, that Migrant would have ended up in hospital.

Rockstar

08-22-24, 10:06 AM

Conspiracy theorist grandad jailed over disorder

That what I like about my country I can call the police “corrupt fascist hitler lovin jackbooted nazi thugs, brainwashed zombie scum following orders of the state arresting people for thinking out load”. And if I’m arrested for my speech I can take ‘em to court for violating my civil rights. lol

I think them Bobbies need to put their big boy pants on and go find the thieves and murderers prowling the streets instead of terrorizing ol’ grandad for thinking out loud.

mapuc

08-22-24, 11:18 AM

Dargo

08-22-24, 12:11 PM

That what I like about my country I can call the police “corrupt fascist hitler lovin jackbooted nazi thugs, brainwashed zombie scum following orders of the state arresting people for thinking out load”. And if I’m arrested for my speech I can take ‘em to court for violating my civil rights. lol

I think them Bobbies need to put their big boy pants on and go find the thieves and murderers prowling the streets instead of terrorizing ol’ grandad for thinking out loud.It is front your eyes to read, but you did not bother he was charged for violent disorder and pleaded guilty so was jailed for two years and eight months totally nothing to do with free speech or civil rights. It is simple he attacked the police violently so is guilty of that crime, I would say do this in the US and let us know what the result is. We in Europe have laws against hate and racism those include you have respect for each other if you cross these lines you have to pay for it laws what every normal functional democracy has.

Rockstar

08-22-24, 12:36 PM

It is front your eyes to read, but you did not bother he was charged for violent disorder and pleaded guilty so was jailed for two years and eight months totally nothing to do with free speech or civil rights. It is simple he attacked the police violently so is guilty of that crime, I would say do this in the US and let us know what the result is. We in Europe have laws against hate and racism those include you have respect for each other if you cross these lines you have to pay for it laws what every normal functional democracy has.

I read it, he was arrested for violent disorder which is when 3 or more persons who are present together use or threaten unlawful violence.

Where in the article does it say he committed either of those?

You would think the useful idiots writing the article would have had film or written some details of these alleged ‘threats of violence’ or ‘violence’. All I saw was him being accused of calling cops corrupt and rambling on about conspiracy theories.

Hell over here they get a fair trial as shown when 300 arrested in connection with January 6th riot were released because their arrests were deemed unconstitutional.

I guess in the U.K. they just get railroaded into prison. Great fascist tactic to distract people about why the protests began in the first place.

On a side note they didn’t arrest him for defamation now did they? ;)

Dargo

08-22-24, 12:42 PM

Sure he was arrested for violent disorder which is when 3 or more persons who are present together use or threaten unlawful violence.

Where in the article does it say he committed either of those?

You would think the useful idiots writing the article would have had film or written some details of ‘threats of violence or violence’ other than him calling cops corrupt or rambling on about conspiracy theories.

Hell over here they get a fair trial as shown when 300 arrested in connection with January 6th riot were released because their arrests were deemed unconstitutional.

I guess in the U.K. they just get railroaded into prison.Oh there are videos (street cams, phone from bystanders and body cams) these are shown in court. You do not get this kinda sentence for only threatening or disorder.

Rockstar

08-22-24, 01:48 PM

Oh there are videos (street cams, phone from bystanders and body cams) these are shown in court. You do not get this kinda sentence for only threatening or disorder.

Maybe you read the law and tell me how the accusations in the article relates to the definition of violent disorder below.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/violent-disorder-2/

Public Order Act 1986, s.2

Guideline effective from: 01 January 2020

Triable either way
Maximum: 5 years’ custody
Offence range: Community order – 4 years 6 months’ custody

This is a specified offence for the purposes of sections 266 and 279 (extended sentence for certain violent, sexual or terrorism offences) of the Sentencing Code.

I didn’t see anything concerning calling police scum, corrupt or conspiracy theories. Like I said; I would have thought the authors of the article could have at least pointed out exactly what threats of, or use of violence grandpa made that caused him to be arrested and thrown in prison.

I’m of the opinion since the BBC is the mouth piece of the state, writing such a vague story isnt a mistake. They are informing the public on behalf of the state that calling officials names and disagreeing with government policy is now considered violent disorder so watch out they’ll be coming after you.

Dargo

08-22-24, 02:26 PM

Maybe you read the law and tell me how the accusations in the article relates to the definition of violent disorder below.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/violent-disorder-2/

I didn’t see anything concerning calling police scum, corrupt or conspiracy theories. Like I said; I would have thought the authors of the article could have at least pointed out exactly what threats of, or use of violence grandpa made that caused him to be arrested and thrown in prison.

I’m of the opinion since the BBC is the mouth piece of the state, writing such a vague story isnt a mistake. They are informing the public on behalf of the state that calling officials names and disagreeing with government policy is now considered violent disorder so watch out they’ll be coming after you.Lynch pleaded guilty to a charge of violent disorder he did this to himself according to above laws he got what he himself stated that he was guilty of I do not see the problem here.

mapuc

08-22-24, 02:47 PM

Rockstar

08-22-24, 02:57 PM

I went back to read the article Jim quoted and I did remember correctly

"His sign and protest was not unlawful, but his verbal abuse towards police officers during the "racist incident" crossed the line, the judge added."

He was convict on using ugly words against the police.

Markus

I didn’t see verbal abuse listed under violent disorder. Didn’t notice charges of defamation either ;). Just some old guy rambling on about conspiracy theories and calling police corrupt and scum. Big whoop.

Meanwhile the actual cause of the protests are never addressed, just forgotten as the public is beaten into submission.

Dargo

08-22-24, 03:02 PM

I didn’t see verbal abuse listed under violent disorder. Didn’t notice charges of defamation either ;). Just some old guy rambling on about conspiracy theories and calling police corrupt and scum. Big whoop.

Meanwhile the actual cause of the protests are never addressed, just forgotten as the public is beaten into submission.He pleaded guilty to a charge of violent disorder get over with it, he did it to himself as for the public days after the riots the public came in mass on the street to protest against these racists in a majority.You did not yourself attack any police officer, as far as can be detected, but what you did was encourage by your conduct others to behave violently and you were part of this mob.
Culpability A

Offender was an instigator or carried out a leading role
Targeting of individual(s) by a group
Culpability B

Offender participated in incident involving serious acts of violence
Offender participated in incident involving persistent and/or sustained unlawful activity
Culpability C

Offence involved threats of violence only
Offence involved lower level of violence or activity than included in Category B
Category 2

Incident causes serious disruption or severe detrimental impact to community
Incident causes substantial costs to be incurred to public purse
Incident results in attacks on police or public servants
Incident results in extensive damage to property
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/violent-disorder-2/
He is the latest of more than 20 men who have now been jailed by Judge Richardson following the Manvers disorder, which saw 58 police officers, three police dogs and a police horse injured, and involved rioters breaking into the hotel and trying to set the building alight.

Rockstar

08-22-24, 03:41 PM

He pleaded guilty to a charge of violent disorder get over with it, he did it to himself as for the public days after the riots the public came in mass on the street to protest against these racists in a majority.
Culpability A

Offender was an instigator or carried out a leading role
Targeting of individual(s) by a group
Culpability B

Offender participated in incident involving serious acts of violence
Offender participated in incident involving persistent and/or sustained unlawful activity
Culpability C

Offence involved threats of violence only
Offence involved lower level of violence or activity than included in Category B
Category 2

Incident causes serious disruption or severe detrimental impact to community
Incident causes substantial costs to be incurred to public purse
Incident results in attacks on police or public servants
Incident results in extensive damage to property
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/violent-disorder-2/
He is the latest of more than 20 men who have now been jailed by Judge Richardson following the Manvers disorder, which saw 58 police officers, three police dogs and a police horse injured, and involved rioters breaking into the hotel and trying to set the building alight.

I know I read it too. Again only thing I saw him accused of in BBC and Guardian papers was that he call cops names and rambled on about supposed conspiracy theories. If he plead guilty his solicitor must have had his head too far up the barristers arse to care. And from what I’ve been hearing elsewhere including the video below the police don’t even inform the accused what they’re being charged with. Makes me wonder if grandad even understood the charges.

In other news. I don’t agree with his politics and views but damn the fascist state really came down hard on him.
Seems to me it’s getting the point if you don’t toe the fascist state line. You get labeled racist, extremist or terrorist arrested thrown in jail, or harassed.
https://youtu.be/QYa-cb7MzIo

Dargo

08-22-24, 03:52 PM

I know I read it too. Again only thing I saw him accused of in BBC and Guardian papers was that he call cops names and rambled on about supposed conspiracy theories. If he plead guilty his solicitor must have had his head too far up the barristers arse to care. And from what I’ve been hearing elsewhere including the video below the police don’t even inform the accused what they’re being charged with. Makes me wonder if grandad even understood the charges.

In other news. I don’t agree with his politics and views but damn the fascist state really came down hard on him.
Seems to me it’s getting the point if you don’t toe the fascist state line. You get labeled racist, extremist or terrorist arrested thrown in jail, or harassed.
https://youtu.be/QYa-cb7MzIoTo sell your newspaper you got to have clickbait, it is the normal in the media.

Jimbuna

08-23-24, 06:08 AM

R I P sweet little girl.

Hundreds line streets for Elsie Dot's 'special day'

The funeral of a seven-year-old girl who was killed in the Southport stabbing attacks has taken place on Merseyside.

The family of Elsie Dot Stancombe had asked the community to give their daughter "the best possible celebration".

They described her as an "amazing little girl" and encouraged mourners to wear bright colours.

In an eulogy, read on behalf of her parents, she was described as bringing "light, love and joy to so many lives in her seven and a half years".

"From the moment her parents knew of her existence she has brought them nothing but happiness and the life she has lived has been a true reflection of the love they have all shared together," it added.

A horse-drawn carriage arrived at St John's Church in Birkdale, near Southport, on Friday morning ahead of the service, which took place at 10:00 BST.

Her family walked behind the carriage in a procession from their home and mourners lined streets decorated with pink ribbons.

The poem I am Not Really Gone by Kayleigh Simmons was read "from Elsie's perspective" by Rev Canon Anne Taylor from St Peter's Church, Formby.

It included the lines: "I am not really gone so many parts of me remain, I want to send you reminder anytime you are in pain.

"When you hear the laughter of my friends and the words of my favourite song, When you look up at the sparkling stars, I have been here all along."

In a statement released by Elsie's family earlier they said they would be celebrating her life "with positivity, hope and love".

"‘We are the four best friends in the whole wide world’ – and that mantra will remain with us for the rest of our lives, sound in the knowledge that Elsie is here with us and forever will be in our hearts," they said.

As well as those gathered in the church, others watched the service on screens at the church hall and Liverpool Road Methodist Church.

After the service, a funeral procession passed the site of floral tributes outside the Atkinson arts centre in Southport, with a tribute as part of the cortege from Royal Mail, where Elsie's father, David, works.

Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, and six-year-old Bebe King, were also killed in the attack. Their funerals took place earlier this month.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v51m128e5o

Jimbuna

08-23-24, 11:56 AM

Labour membership sinks to lowest level in 10 years under Starmer

Labour Party membership has sunk to its lowest level in a decade under Sir Keir Starmer’s leadership, figures reveal.

The party lost 37,000 members last year, bringing its total membership at the end of 2023 to 370,450, according to Labour’s official accounts.

The figure marks a new low for Labour membership under Sir Keir, compared to 532,000 members recorded in 2019 when Jeremy Corbyn was leader.

The latest figures represent the lowest total number of members supporting the party since 2014, when Labour introduced its “one person one vote” system that gave members and MPs equal sway in leadership contests. Membership doubled the following year to 388,000

The recent 9 per cent fall is also the party’s steepest year-on-year decline in membership since 2003, when it dipped by 13 per cent, down from 248,300 to 215,000, following the invasion of Iraq.
Despite a drop in membership, the party reported a loss of £851,000 as it ramped up spending ahead of the election – a smaller deficit than expected.

The party had originally been forecast to lose £2.5 million throughout 2023.

Treasurer David Evans attributed this to “an increase in high-value donations”, offsetting investment in staffing levels and technology and the move to a “more appropriate” head office.

Labour was not alone in seeing a decline in membership in 2023, with the Liberal Democrats losing around 11,000 members.

Although the Conservatives do not publish membership figures, income for the party from membership fees fell from £1.97 million to £1.5 million.

This continued a downward trend from £2.21 million in 2019, when Boris Johnson was leader.

But where Labour recorded a deficit in 2023, both the Lib Dems and Conservatives recorded surpluses.

A significant boost in donations and income from its party conference saw the Liberal Democrats end 2023 with a surplus of £271,258, while the Conservatives managed a surplus of £17.9 million – helped by a £10 million endowment from Lord John Sainsbury.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/labour-membership-sinks-to-lowest-level-in-10-years-under-starmer/ar-AA1pgoYC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=7c02d8c54e68475295f1bf15f6a6e951&ei=36

Jimbuna

08-24-24, 05:52 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/mZjJp1nK/455352438-1628149137753106-4782823526701966263-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Jimbuna

08-24-24, 06:05 AM

Keir Starmer blasted for 'chaotic' first 50 days in scathing comparison to 14 years of Tories: 'He's unqualified!'

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has been branded "unqualified" as the "chaos" of Labour's first 50 days in Government has been subject to a scathing comparison to the legacy of the outgoing Conservative Party.

Starmer has faced widespread criticism on several issues during his first few months as Britain's premier, including the recent UK riots and the surge in migration numbers, which has amassed to over 6,000 since Labour entered Number 10.

On Friday, Labour landed themselves in hot water again after it was revealed that energy bills are set to increase by up to £150 from October.

Starmer had previously promised voters ahead of the election that Labour has a "fully costed plan to freeze energy bills this winter".

Discussing the Labour Party's failures so far, commentator Alex Armstrong admitted he was "dumbfounded" by Sir Keir Starmer's decisions in his first 50 days in power, and compared it to the last 14 years of the Tories.

Armstrong told GB News: "What Labour have managed to achieve in 50 days is what the chaos of 14 years of Tories managed to do.

"And that's the problem - it's the culmination of 50 days of 'Keir Starling' and 'Rachel Thieves', and it's only going to get worse."

Noting one of the biggest issues facing Starmer's Government, illegal migration, Armstrong claimed that is "open doors" under the PM since scrapping the Rwanda scheme, which was legislated by Tory leader Rishi Sunak.

Armstrong explained: "It's just open doors now isn't it? We saw those people queueing up in Calais and other parts of France, waiting to come to the UK once Keir Starmer won the election.

"And then we got flooded with them, as we've seen over the last few weeks, unfortunately that's the case. And instead of addressing the issue, he's pretending it hasn't happened."

Offering his verdict on Keir Starmer's reign so far, former BBC Correspondent John Sergeant said it was "always going to be difficult" for Labour after the last 14 years of Conservative policy.

Sergeant told GB News: "Everyone knew it was going to be difficult, that's why the Tories did so badly in the election.

"We've got serious problems, particularly about how much public finance is available, nothing to do with what little growth there might be or not, but just simply how much we borrowed, it's a very big figure. It's bigger than anyone imagined a few years ago that we'd reach, that's all going to be paid for.

"You need to look at one aspect of the public sector, whether it's the NHS, whether it's prisons, whether it's defence or anything else, that we need more money. So the idea that we sort of sit here and say it's all Labour's fault for the last five weeks is absurd."

When asked by host Patrick Christys if Sir Keir Starmer's Labour is a "modern day disaster", Armstrong replied: "It just feels like a government that's totally unqualified. They seem ignorant to the issues that matter.

"They're solving all of these so-called issues with hard core policing, but they're actually treating the symptom, not the problem, and they just seem to be completely in total chaos when it comes to anything critical to this country."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-blasted-for-chaotic-first-50-days-in-scathing-comparison-to-14-years-of-tories-he-s-unqualified/ar-AA1pm7s7?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f4478b173a914e52af5d2c5ebeb1d2aa&ei=21

Moonlight

08-24-24, 08:10 AM

Downing Street officials draw up plans for how to announce death of Larry the Cat: Officials are ready for the day that Number 10's 17-year-old 'chief mouser' finally heads to the Big Cattery in the sky

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13775785/Downing-Street-officials-draw-plans-announce-death-Larry-Cat-Officials-ready-day-Number-10s-17-year-old-chief-mouser-finally-heads-Big-Cattery-sky.html

Bloody hell, it's a bleeding cat you stupid morons, it's not as if you're announcing the death of Winston Churchill, if this is what those Downing St officials have been discussing it's no wonder how they've let the UK borders open so every piece of filth from all over the world can come here and set up their own criminal enterprise.

Get a grip you braindead pillocks.

Jimbuna

08-24-24, 12:20 PM

Starmer immigration fury as quarter of Labour voters consider Reform move in shock poll

Sir Keir Starmer is facing an immigration backlash with a shock poll revealing more than a quarter of Labour voters would consider voting for Nigel Farage's Reform UK in the next election.

A new poll suggests many of party's voters consider themselves to the right of Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer on issues including immigration.

More than half (57 percent) of Labour voters feel migration to the UK should be reduced, while 27 percent believe it should increase.

The poll of more than 1,000 people who voted for Labour in their landslide General Election victory showed that 26 percent would 'seriously consider or consider' voting for Reform in the next election - although only two percent said they would vote Reform if there was an election tomorrow.
The JL Partners poll, created for Arden Strategies, showed that 14 percent of the Labour voters polled would have considered Reform UK - which won five seats - as their second choice in the last election.

This was ahead of the six percent who said they would have chosen the Conservatives, but below 36 percent for the Liberal Democrats and 22 percent for the Green Party.

Earlier this week Home Secretary Yvette Cooper promised a "surge in enforcement and returns flights" to reach the highest rate of migrant removals since 2018 while announcing a plan to crackdown on organised immigration crime.

Other measures pledged by the Home Office include the immediate recruitment of up to 100 new specialist intelligence and investigation officers at the National Crime Agency (NCA) to target, dismantle and disrupt organised immigration crime networks.

There will be increased detention capacity, including 290 additional beds at Campsfield and Haslar Immigration Removal Centres.

Ms Cooper said: "We are taking strong and clear steps to boost our border security and ensure the rules are respected and enforced.

"Our new Border Security Command is already gearing up, with new staff being urgently recruited and additional staff already stationed across Europe, working with European enforcement agencies to find every route in to smashing the criminal smuggling gangs organising dangerous boat crossings which undermine our border security and putting lives at risk.

"And by increasing enforcement capabilities and returns we will establish a system that is better controlled and managed, in place of the chaos that has blighted the system for far too long."

Home Office figures show a total of 118,882 people were waiting for an initial decision on an asylum application in the UK at the end of June 2024, down by 32 percent from 175,457 at the end of June 2023, which was the highest figure since current records began in 2010.
Nearly all (99 percent) of people arriving in the UK in the year to June 2024 after crossing the Channel claimed asylum or were recorded as a dependant on an asylum application, the Home Office said.

Overall, just under a third (31 percent) of the total number of people claiming asylum in the UK in the year to June had arrived on a small boat.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/starmer-immigration-fury-as-quarter-of-labour-voters-consider-reform-move-in-shock-poll/ar-AA1pm8Xr?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8eb41b3e801347e4a4d4879565e404a3&ei=82

Jimbuna

08-25-24, 06:38 AM

WOW! You don't say! :o

Allowing migration to rocket was a 'fatal mistake', James Cleverly admits

Allowing migration to rocket to record levels was a "fatal mistake", James Cleverly has admitted.

The former home secretary warned that Labour "ideologically opposes border control" and that the party is a "soft touch" on immigration.

Mr Cleverly, who is running to be the next leader of the Conservatives, insisted "wanting border control isn't racist" as he defended some of the measures he introduced to slash net migration.

The Conservatives were heavily criticised ahead of last month's election for overseeing record increases in net migration, which hit 685,000 last year and 764,000 in 2022.

The Shadow Home Secretary wrote in a Sunday newspaper op-ed: "I reformed our visa system to cut numbers within weeks.
"And we're seeing the fruits of those changes in the latest data.

"Visas down. Illegal arrivals down. Small boat arrivals down.

"Labour ideologically opposes border control. But Conservatives know wanting border control isn't racist.

"Getting migration down has to be one of our party's central missions.

"If I'm elected leader, it will be.

"Allowing migration to rocket after Covid was a fatal mistake."

Tom Tugendhat, another senior Conservative hoping to become the next leader, apologised for the party's record on immigration.

He said he would aim to slash net migration to around 100,000 a year.

He added: "The reason I apologise is because we can see the effects, right? We can see the effects in communities across the United Kingdom.

"But this isn't just about pointing at the problem. It's about fixing it. And that's why what we really need is a massive economic change because we need Brits to be taking the jobs that we are talking about now."

But new Home Office figures indicate net migration is already falling.

The number of health and social care visas - dubbed a backdoor route into Britain - fell by 26 percent year-on-year to 89,085, with a sharp drop of 81 percent for the period April to June alone coinciding with a ban on dependants.

In a series of tough reforms announced in December, Mr Cleverly banned overseas care workers and foreign students from bringing their family members with them to the UK.

The salary threshold for skilled workers was also increased to £38,700.

The previous government aimed to slash the number of people arriving in Britain by 300,000 a year with the measures.

But new Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has paused a planned increase in the salary threshold on those hoping to bring their family members to the UK.

This means foreign nationals will only need to earn £28,000 to bring their families to the UK.

Mr Cleverly also confirmed he will continue pushing Labour over a key hole in its plan to end the Channel migrant crisis.

He wrote: "As Shadow Home Secretary, I'll keep asking Yvette Cooper: 'Where will you send failed asylum seekers from Afghanistan, Iran or Syria?'

"But Labour don't have a plan - and I don't think they care.

"A Conservative Party under my leadership would regain control of our borders.

"We'll revive third safe country partnerships like Rwanda."

Home Office figures have revealed just 3 percent - 3,788 - have been deported since the crisis began in 2018, with the number falling this year compared with the final quarter of 2023.

And the scrapping of the Rwanda scheme has intensified fears it is now far harder to remove failed asylum seekers.

New statistics show 2,336 people were deported in the year to June.

But 89 percent of them were Albanian nationals, returned under an agreement signed by former prime minister Rishi Sunak in December 2022.

During a television debate, Sir Keir repeatedly dodged questions on what he would do with migrants from Iran, Syria and Afghanistan - three of the top five cohorts among small boat arrivals.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/allowing-migration-to-rocket-was-a-fatal-mistake-james-cleverly-admits/ar-AA1pol1E?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e4868aa448c04c23a0fcb0df1da271dd&ei=36

Jimbuna

08-25-24, 07:16 AM

Ex Tory chief says party 'is like Game of Thrones' in dig at 'circular firing squad'

Former Tory chairman Nadhim Zahawi has likened the party to the mafia and Game of Thrones - saying MPs "still want to tear chunks out of each other".

Mr Zahawi, who briefly served as Chancellor in Boris Johnson's final days, said this could go down in history as the moment the Conservatives "fell apart". He claimed that after Brexit the party "formed a circular firing squad" in a blistering assessment.

And he said factions had got more "vicious" and "extreme". Mr Zahawi, who stood down at the General Election, told Times Radio: "We're not some sort of mafia. We got to a stage where it felt more like Game of Thrones than being a responsible governing party.

"The factions got more and more extreme and more vicious towards one another. People looked at that and said, no, enough. These people don't deserve to be lent our vote. If we don't unite, if we don't come together, then we're going to be an irrelevance".

His remarks come as six candidates - Kemi Badenoch, Robert Jenrick, James Cleverly, Mel Stride, Dame Priti Patel and Tom Tugendhat - battle to succeed Rishi Sunak. Mr Zahawi said: "The greatest threat to our party today is we still want to tear chunks out of one another . People are not yet prepared to unite. That breaks my heart ."

He went on: "This could be a moment in history where you could literally pinpoint the timeline where the Conservative Party fell apart." The ex-MP, who held a number of Government roles during his 14 years in Parliament, said: "We never reconciled the party post-Brexit. We decided to form a circular firing squad whilst in government. Elements in my party who were very unhappy with Boris blamed him for the outcome of the referendum and then chose a different path."

Referencing the so-called 'Five Families' - a group of hardliners on the right of the party who made life difficult for Rishi Sunak - he said: "MPs were proud of going on the media and talking about the five families having a midnight meeting."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/sky-sports-expert-s-verdict-interesting-on-newcastle-united-ahead-of-bournemouth-match/ar-AA1plQ9V?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=66df8c53fb5e47c7895d4d8085e2c951&ei=75

Kptlt. Neuerburg

08-25-24, 12:57 PM

Meanwhile a bloke who did a car show opens a pub and bans the PM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn6oqJWL2lE

Jimbuna

08-25-24, 01:06 PM

Wise decision.

Jimbuna

08-26-24, 12:31 PM

'Why punish the most vulnerable?!' Emma Woolf BLASTS Rachel Reeves over 'unfair' winter fuel payments decision

Political commentator Emma Woolf has hit out at the government after Prime Minister Keir Starmer is set to say that "things will get worse before getting better" having faced backlash for slashing winter fuel payments across the country.

In the past, Brits who are of state pension age were allowed to claim up to £300 to help out with winter energy bill but the newly elected Labour government has changed the rules meaning that households will now need to receive means-tested benefits from the Department for Work and Pensions before they claim the allowance.

The decision was announced by the Government as the Chancellor warned of a black hole in the public finances.

Speaking on Tuesday, Keir Starmer is expected to say that the government has also taken on a “societal black hole” and "thing will only get worse."

Speaking to GB News, Woolf fumed: "When we have Starmer's speech tomorrow, which has been heavily talked about, saying that there's corruption and there's rot and blah, blah, blah.

"These are the tough choices we need to make about cutting the fuel payments for pensioners.

"The tough choices should be applied to everybody. Why are the tough choices being made on pensioners and not on public sector pay?

"Tough choices should be made with equity, with fairness. This is not fair. The fact is there is a huge amount, £13.9billion wasted in fraud and error.

"That's not on the Labour Party because they weren't in government. Whitehall need to clean up their act. Stop punishing the most vulnerable."

The Government has told the pensioners who are struggling to try and use Pension Credit, and has stated that they have remained committed to the older generation.

Chancellor Rachel Reeves said: "The dire state of the public finances we inherited from the previous Government means we’ve had to make some very difficult decisions.

"Our commitment to supporting pensioners remains, which is why we are maintaining the triple lock.

"We want pensioners to get the support they are entitled to.

"That’s why I urge all pensioners to check whether they are eligible for Pension Credit."

Tomorrow the Prime Minister is expected to say: “Things are worse than we ever imagined.

“And that is why we have to take action and do things differently. Part of that is being honest with people – about the choices we face. And how tough this will be.

“Frankly – things will get worse before they get better.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/why-punish-the-most-vulnerable-emma-woolf-blasts-rachel-reeves-over-unfair-winter-fuel-payments-decision/ar-AA1ps4wA?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=24837e9451d243ca96a1ae04ff08bbba&ei=32

Jimbuna

08-27-24, 07:59 AM

The prime minister warns October's Budget "is going to be painful" in a speech in the Downing Street rose garden.

Keir Starmer says "we have not just inherited an economic black hole, but a societal black hole"

Pressed on potential tax rises, Starmer repeats his election pledge that there will be no increases to income tax, VAT or National Insurance - but says full details will be laid out in the Budget.

Conservative leader Rishi Sunak says the speech is "the clearest indication of what Labour has been planning to do all along - raise your taxes"

Elsewhere in the speech, the PM condemned the riots, saying they exposed the UK's "deeply unhealthy society"

Jimbuna

08-28-24, 09:03 AM

Starmer: Reset with EU will not reverse Brexit

The UK's desire to reset relations with the European Union does not mean reversing Brexit, Sir Keir Starmer has said.

The prime minister said he wanted a closer relationship with Europe but the UK had no plans for a youth mobility scheme, which could give young people in the EU the right to live and work in the UK, and vice versa.

Sir Keir was speaking at a joint news conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Berlin, after the pair began talks on a new co-operation agreement between the two countries.

The PM said the agreement aimed to boost trade, create jobs and deliver economic growth in both countries.

The two leaders hope to sign a treaty, covering areas including defence, energy security, science and technology, by early next year.

During the visit, they also agreed a joint action plan to tackle illegal migration and smuggling gangs by sharing intelligence and data.

Sir Keir has previously said he will seek a better deal on trade with the EU than the one negotiated by Boris Johnson in late 2020.

His Labour government wants to strike deals with the EU to reduce border checks on food products, lessen paperwork for touring artists, and boost recognition of work qualifications, making it easier for some professionals to work abroad.

It also wants to broker a security pact with the EU, as well as a new returns agreement for failed asylum seekers.

However, it remains unclear whether Brussels would entertain major changes to the UK's existing Brexit trade deal, which is due to be reviewed in 2026.

Taking questions from journalists after the news conference, Sir Keir was pressed over what concessions the UK would have to offer to secure a better deal.

The PM said he was "absolutely clear" the government wanted to reset relations with Europe.

He added: "That does not mean reversing Brexit or re-entering the single market or the customs union.

"But it does mean a closer relationship on a number of fronts, including the economy, including defence, including exchanges."

The single market enables goods, service and people to move freely between member states, with countries applying many common rules and standards.

The customs union is an agreement not to charge taxes called tariffs on goods coming from other EU countries, and to charge the same tariffs as each other on goods coming from outside the EU.

Asked if the UK would allow freedom of movement for young Germans, the PM said: "We do not have plans for a youth mobility scheme but do have plans for closer relationship between us and the EU."

A youth mobility scheme - which would make it easier for EU citizens aged 18 to 30 to study and work in the UK for a limited period, with young Britons allowed to do the same in Europe in return - has been proposed by the EU.

But speaking after the news conference, Sir Keir insisted the planned treaty with Germany had "nothing to do with youth mobility".

Asked about the possibility of student exchanges between the UK and Germany, the prime minister said the focus of discussions was on the bilateral treaty and tackling illegal migration.

He added: "We want a close relationship of course, and I do think that can extend across defence, security, education and cultural exchange, and of course trade. But we didn’t go into the details of that today."

Earlier Nils Schmid, foreign affairs spokesperson for Mr Scholz's Social Democratic Party, told the BBC a scheme making it easier for young Germans to travel to the UK to study was "major feature of our wish list".

He insisted such a scheme would not be about "immigration in a general sense" but "stays of limited duration" for educational programmes, student exchanges or work experience.

Mr Scholz welcomed a reset of relations between the UK and the EU.

He told the news conference the UK had always been "an indispensable partner" and "nothing has changed after Brexit".

Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokeswoman Layla Moran said the talks with Mr Scholz were "a positive step forward after years of the Conservatives trashing the UK's relationship with Europe".

"But the new government needs to be more ambitious about rebuilding stronger ties with our European allies," she added.

"That should start with agreeing a Youth Mobility Scheme giving young people the opportunity to easily live and work across the continent."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg3pxz4334o

Jimbuna

08-28-24, 12:41 PM

What a load of rubbish I received in my Inbox today.

Jim, when I stood on the steps of Downing Street two months ago, I promised this government would serve people like you.

Apprentices. Teachers. Nurses. Small business owners. Firefighters. Those serving our communities and our country every day. I promised that we would get a grip on the problems that we face and that we would be judged by our actions, not by our words.

I said before the election and I'll say it again really clearly today:

Growth, and frankly by that I do mean wealth creation, is the number one priority of this Labour government. That’s why, in our first few weeks, we’ve set up a National Wealth Fund – because we want every person and every community to benefit.

It’s why we’ve unlocked planning decisions - because we are going to build 1.5 million new homes. It’s why we’ve set up Great British Energy, to create good jobs and cut people’s bills. And it’s why we’ve ended the national strikes that have crippled our country for years.

Because I defy anyone to tell me that you can grow the economy when people can’t get to work because the transport system is broken or can’t return to work because they’re stuck on an NHS waiting list.

We’ve done more in seven weeks than the last government did in seven years. And these are just the first steps towards the change that people voted for. The change I’m determined to deliver.

But before the election I also gave a warning. I said change would not happen overnight.

When there is a deep rot, deep in the heart of a structure, you can’t just cover it up. You can’t tinker or rely on quick fixes. You have to overhaul the entire thing. Tackle it at root. Even if it’s harder work and takes more time.

Because otherwise, what happens? The rot returns in all the same places and it spreads worse than before. You know that and I know that.

That’s why this project has always been about fixing the foundations of our country.

But I have to be honest with you. Things are worse than we ever imagined.

In the first few weeks, we discovered a £22 billion black hole in the public finances.

And before anyone says that this is just performative or playing politics, let’s remember that the OBR did not know about it. They wrote a letter setting that out.

And they didn’t know because the last government hid it. Even just last Wednesday, we found out that – thanks to the last government’s recklessness - we borrowed almost £5 billion more than the OBR expected in the last three months alone.

That’s not performative, that’s fact. But as well as the things we’ve discovered, we’ve also seen shocking scenes across the nation.

A mindless minority of thugs who thought they could get away with causing chaos, smashing up communities and terrifying minorities. Vandalising and destroying people’s property. Even trying to set fire to a building with human beings inside it.

And as if that wasn’t despicable enough. People displaying swastika tattoos. Shouting racist slurs on our streets. Nazi salutes at the cenotaph, the very place we honour those who gave their lives for this country.

Desecrating their memory under the pretence, and it is a pretence, of ‘legitimate protest’.

Now they’re learning that crime has consequences. I will not tolerate a breakdown in law and order under any circumstances.

And I will not listen to those who exploit grieving families, and disrespect communities. But these riots didn’t happen in a vacuum. They exposed the state of our country and revealed a deeply unhealthy society.

The cracks in our foundation laid bare, weakened by a decade of division and decline. Infected by a spiral of populism which fed off a cycle of failure of the last government.

Every time they faced a difficult problem, they failed to be honest. They offered the snake oil of populism, which led to more failure. Round and round and round, stuck in the rut of the politics of performance.

And I saw the beginning of that downward spiral firsthand in 2011 when riots ripped through London and across the country. I was then Director of Public Prosecutions and when I think back to that time, I see just how far we have fallen.

Because responding to those riots was hard, but dealing with the riots this summer was much harder. In 2011, I didn’t doubt the courts could do what they needed to do. This time, to be honest with you, I genuinely didn’t know.

Every day, literally every day, we had to check the precise number of prison places we had and where those places were to make sure we could arrest, charge and prosecute people quickly.

Not having enough prison places is about as fundamental a failure as you can get.

And those people throwing rocks, torching cars, making threats. They didn’t just know the system was broken, they were betting on it, gaming it. They thought – ‘oh, they’ll never arrest me. And if they do, I won’t be prosecuted. And if I am, I won’t get much of a sentence.'

They saw the cracks in our society after 14 years of failure - and they exploited it.

That’s what we have inherited. Not just an economic black hole. A societal black hole.

And that is why we have to take action and do things differently. Part of that is being honest with people about the choices we face and how tough this will be.

Frankly, things will get worse before they get better.

I didn’t want to release prisoners early. I was Chief Prosecutor for five years. It goes against the grain of everything I’ve ever done. But to be blunt, if we hadn’t taken that difficult decision immediately, we wouldn’t have been able to respond to the riots as we did.

And if we don’t take tough action across the board, we won’t be able to fix the foundations of the country as we need.

I didn’t want to means test the Winter Fuel Payment but it was a choice we had to take. A choice to protect the most vulnerable pensioners while doing what is necessary to repair the public finances.

Because pensioners also rely on a functioning NHS, good public transport and strong national infrastructure. They want their children to be able to buy homes. They want their grandchildren to get a good education.

So we have made that difficult decision, to mend the public finances so everyone benefits in the long term, including pensioners.

That is a difficult trade off and there will be more to come. I won’t shy away from making unpopular decisions now if it’s the right thing for the country in the long term. That’s what a government of service means.

This shouldn’t be a country where people fear walking down their street, their TVs showing cars and buildings being set on fire. This shouldn’t be a country where the Prime Minister can’t guarantee prison places.

But it also shouldn’t be a country where people are paying thousands more on their mortgages or waiting months for hospital appointments they desperately need. Where our waters are filled with sewage. Where parents worry that their kids won’t get the opportunities they did. Where nothing seems to work anymore.

So, when I talk about the inheritance the last government left us, the £22 billion black hole in our finances, this isn’t about lines on a graph. This is about people’s lives. Your lives.

And the Tories are still not being honest. They know their recklessness cost them the election but they won’t accept the cost that they’ve inflicted on the country.

And they won’t apologise for what they’ve cost you. They’re just still thinking about themselves.

This government won’t always be perfect, but I promise you this:

You will be at the heart of it, in the forefront of our minds, at the centre of everything we do. This is a government for you, back in your service.

It’s not just that the last government relied on easy gimmicks and bad ideas. Those things happened precisely because the government itself lost its focus on the hopes and ambitions of working people.

During those recent riots, I made huge asks of the police and of the criminal justice system. People already stretched to the limit. They knew I was making big asks of them and I’m not going to apologise for it.

But let me tell you this - they delivered. They deserve our gratitude. And that’s why I went to Southport, to Lambeth and to Belfast to thank them personally. To shake the hands of the first responders who rose up to the ask I was making of them.

They deserve a government that trusts them, supports them and works with them.

That is the sort of government we will be. One that works with people, not does things to them. One that believes in hard graft, not gimmicks.

Honest about the challenges we face and working tirelessly to fix them. That is how we will always work.

Next week, parliament returns.The business of politics will resume but it won’t be business as usual. Because we can’t go on like this anymore. Things will have to be done differently.

We will do the hard work to root out 14 years of rot, reverse a decade of decline and fix the foundations.

Between now and Christmas, we will carry on as we started. Action not words. We will introduce legislation and take decisions to protect taxpayers’ money. Take on the blockers by accelerating planning to build homes and boost growth.

We’ll move forward this autumn to harness the full potential of AI for growth and the public good. We’ll bring rail services into public ownership, putting passengers first.

The biggest levelling up of workers’ rights in a generation to give people security, dignity and respect at work.

And Great British Energy will be owned by the taxpayer, making money for the taxpayer, producing clean energy and creating good jobs.

That is our focus for the rest of the year. But I’ll also be honest with you.

There’s a budget coming in October and it’s going to be painful. We have no other choice given the situation we’re in.

So those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heavier burden. That’s why we’re cracking down on non-doms.

Those who made the mess should have do their bit to clean it up. That’s why we’re strengthening the powers of the water regulator and backing tough fines on water companies that have let sewage flood our rivers, lakes and seas.

But just as when I responded to the riots, I’ll have to turn to the country and make big asks of you as well.

To accept short term pain for long term good. The difficult trade-off for the genuine solution. And I know that after all you’ve been through, that is a really big ask and really difficult to hear.

That is not the position we should be in. It’s not the position I want to be in. But we have to end the politics of the easy answer that solves nothing.

But I also know that we can get through this together. Because the riots didn’t just betray the sickness, they also revealed the cure. Found not in the cynical conflict of populism but in the coming together of a country.

The people who got together the morning after, all around the country with their brooms, their shovels, their trowels and cleared up their community. They reminded us who we really are. I felt real pride in those people who cleaned up the streets, rebuilt the walls and repaired the damage.

And I couldn’t help thinking about the obvious parallels.

Because imagine the pride we will feel as a nation, when, after the hard work of clearing up the mess is done, we have a country that we have built together.

Built to last, that belongs to every single one of us and that all of us have a stake in.

Our hard work rewarded a dozen times over because we’ll have an economy that works for everyone, an NHS not just back on its feet, but fit for the future and streets that everyone feels safe in.

No longer dependent on foreign dictators because we’re producing our own clean energy right here and giving every child wherever they come from, whatever their background, the chance to go as far as their talents will take them.

I won’t lose sight of that prize. I won’t lose sight of what we were elected to do. And most importantly, I won’t lose sight of the people we were elected to do it for.

You. This is our country. Let’s fix it, together.

Thank you,

Keir Starmer
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

Kptlt. Neuerburg

08-28-24, 08:43 PM

^ I stopped reading that when I got to the "We've done more in seven weeks", bit. And it took a lot of willpower to even read that far.

Moonlight

08-29-24, 04:14 AM

It's just a load of nonsense from the Labour party spin machine, get used to it, you'll be reading a lot more of it over the next 5 years.

Moonlight

08-29-24, 08:57 AM

COUGH UP TWO major roads used by 100k cars daily set to introduce tolls as drivers given just five days to speak up

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/30145786/two-major-roads-set-introduce-tolls-five-days/

Ooh, those drivers will be so happy paying for another one of Khan's stealth taxes, you voted him in so pay up and shut up moaning about it. Bloody Tossers. :haha:

Jimbuna

08-29-24, 10:52 AM

Ministers pledge to help poorest with fuel bills after pensioner backlash

Ministers have pledged further help to reduce fuel bills for the most vulnerable households this winter after talks with energy firms and charities.

A plan to expand the £150 warm home discount to more customers and increase its value was raised at the summit with Energy Consumers Minister Miatta Fahnbulleh, after a backlash over cuts to pensioners’ winter fuel payments and an increase in the energy price cap.

Ms Fahnbulleh did not commit to extending the discount scheme, according to those privy to the talks, but pledged that the Government would come up with a framework for some form of assistance for lower earners before the price cap rise in October.

However, energy companies are likely to be asked to provide the majority of any new money, as Rachel Reeves has insisted there is little room in the public finances for extra spending.
As i reported this week, there are growing calls for the warm home discount scheme to be widened for more customers and to be increased to soften the double blow of the price cap rise and the cuts to winter fuel payments for 10 million pensioners.

Energy UK, the body representing firms, has also called for an increase in the warm home discount.

Another option campaigners and charities have called for is a social tariff for energy use, where companies would be legally required to offer cheaper bills to poorer customers. This is backed by Citizens Advice and Money Saving Expert founder Martin Lewis and was also raised at the meeting.

Insiders have told i that civil servants began working on a possible plan for a social tariff for this winter under the last government. The Department for Energy Security declined to comment on whether those plans were still being looked at.

The energy summit followed a widespread backlash over Ms Reeves’s decision to cut winter fuel payments for all pensioners except those on pension credit.

The Chancellor defended the move on Wednesday, insisting that the public finances were “incredibly challenging”.

The talks also focused on the rise to bills all consumers face this autumn following the raising of the energy price cap this month, which will mean that the average household fuel bill increases by £149 from October.

Ms Fahnbulleh met representatives from British Gas, E, Ecotricity, EDF, E.ON, Octopus, OvO, Scottish Power, Good Energy, Rebel Energy, So Energy, Utilita and Utility Warehouse, along with Ofgem, Citizens Advice and Energy UK to thrash out a plan to support for vulnerable households this winter.

They will meet again in four weeks to finalise details of the plan.

The minister insisted that the Government “must stand behind vulnerable households this winter and beyond”, according to the Government’s account of the talks, including by delivering the existing warm home discount to eligible low-income households.

She also said that energy suppliers must play their part to make sure struggling households are supported and do not fall into debt, and that those currently in debt or arrears are better protected.

The package of support will include “potential further opportunities for industry financial support for vulnerable customers”.

There will also be a nationwide awareness campaign of existing support for customers, including the current extent of the warm home discount.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/ministers-pledge-to-help-poorest-with-fuel-bills-after-pensioner-backlash/ar-AA1pCrHy?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=277716e749b145e88b8d4fdb806a0484&ei=63

Skybird

08-29-24, 08:30 PM

https://youtu.be/AJyrUYfS7k0?si=o5Aikjs7V6wTwHvT

Jimbuna

08-30-24, 05:33 AM

Labour set to drag UK back to 1970s as union paymasters 'own' Keir Starmer

Tory leadership hopeful Tom Tugendhat warned that Sir Keir Starmer's Government would drag the UK back to the 1970s by caving into unions' pay demands.

In a speech in central London, Mr Tugendhat warned the Government's actions could result in rising inflation.

And the former Army Major admitted he wishes the Conservative leadership race was quicker so that the party could take the fight to Labour.

Mr Tugendhat said: "(Sir Keir) is already losing control of pay across the public sector, with other unions now demanding more and threatening more strike action. It feels like we are heading back towards the 1970s and the days of wage-price spirals.

"Just as importantly, it's a missed opportunity for reform and a chance to make our public services better."
He claimed Labour was "owned lock, stock and barrel by the unions".

"The unions gave Labour more than £25 million over the last parliament and in return Labour are giving in to the unions' demands: scrapping laws that guarantee minimum services during strikes, ending rules that make sure strikes only happen when members actually want them and showering unions with public money, no strings attached."

He said Sir Keir was right to warn of a "painful" budget to come because "he has splashed the cash on his friends and left you to pick up the bill".

Tugendhat said his party created "the biggest unaccountable quango in the western world" by making NHS England independent.

He said: "I've already said elsewhere that my party needs to acknowledge our own failures. We said migration would come down, it went up. We said taxes would come down, and overall, they went up.

"We also need to accept that our attempts in the coalition period to reform the NHS, made with the best of intentions, failed. By making NHS England independent we created the biggest unaccountable quango in the western world.

"By allowing it to centralise power we stopped trusting frontline professionals and local staff. By creating complex clinical commissioning procedures we created a bureaucracy instead of eliminating it. By putting so much power into the hands of the NHS chief executive, we made her responsible for everything but accountable for nothing."

He added: "We did not keep our promises on rebuilding hospitals. We did not manage to get waiting lists down.

"Now we can blame inflation, and we can point to Covid. Both of these are important factors, but no matter, we did promise more than we delivered. Now, Labour look like they're about to make the same mistake. We need a new approach."

And Mr Tugendhat, who is trying to woo the centrists in the Conservative Party, said he wishes the leadership race was shorter.

Asked how he felt that a new leader would not be in place for the October budget he said: "As you may, remember, I stood for the leadership before, so of course, I'm disappointed that I'm not the leader now.

"But the truth is, the Conservative Party membership is going to be making an incredibly important decision, not just for the leadership of the Conservative Party, that, of course, is important, nor indeed just to have somebody who can oppose Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves and can take Conservative arguments to oppose them across the country.

"But actually, they've got to choose somebody who can offer the kind of leadership that this country needs, that is transformational, that actually sees us set up over four years, so we're ready for government in 2028/29."

He added: "It is absolutely right that the person we choose is tested, because the truth is, opposition is difficult. It's not like being a minister. You don't get fed things by the civil service and asked to approve or disagree. You've got to get out there and make the noise and make the weather, and that is exactly why it's important the Conservative membership have the chance to see. Of course, I wish it was quicker."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/labour-set-to-drag-uk-back-to-1970s-as-union-paymasters-own-keir-starmer/ar-AA1pEq99?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=bebdcfa7ad4347a785fe578a9b2ca8ba&ei=86

Jimbuna

08-30-24, 05:56 AM

Keir Starmer pulls Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street portrait down after finding it 'unsettling'

Keir Starmer is said to have had Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street portrait pulled down - after finding it "unsettling".

Just weeks after moving into Number 10, Sir Keir has reportedly made a major change within the building which has been the centre of the UK Government for almost 300 years. Perhaps unsurprisingly for a left-leaning lawyer who graduated in 1985, the Labour leader is said to have kicked divisive former Tory PM Maggie's portrait out of the building.

The UK's new leader is said to have found the portrait of Thatcher, who served a tumultuous stint as Conservative PM from 1979 to 1990, to be "unsettling" with the Iron Lady looking down on him. After demolishing a similarly long-lasting and disastrous Tory government last month, Starmer appears to be making good on his promise to "reset" and "change" politics after decades of failure.
Running as Friday's front page for the Daily Mail and Telegraph, the move to take down the portrait of Britain's first female Prime Minister has infuriated some Tories, with former MP Jacob Rees-Mogg calling the move “unbecoming of a Prime Minister who has a role representing the nation, not just his political faction.” But many within Labour have spent decades opposing Thatcher's ultra-libertarian, union-bashing, and divisive style of politics

According to the Prime Minister's biographer, Tom Baldwin, the decision to take the large portrait out of a room in Downing Street, unofficially dubbed the 'Thatcher Room', was made while Starmer was examining the paintings of former leaders. Baldwin asked: "It’s a bit unsettling with her staring down as you like that, isn’t it?"

The Labour leader, who drew fire from his own party for expressing admiration for the long-serving female PM during the election campaign, is reported to have agreed. Then when Baldwin pressed him on whether he would get rid of the portrait, he agreed again. Baldwin added: "And he has."

Surprisingly, the "unsettling" portrait of Thatcher was originally hung before David Cameron swept to power, with then Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown commissioning and unveiling the painting in Downing Street in 2009, at an event with Mrs Thatcher. Keir Starmer has previously praised the former PM for “setting loose our natural entrepreneurialism,” but on the campaign trail slammed decades fo Conservative policy that has "decimated" the country's former industrial heartlands.

But with the Conservative Party in tatters after an all-time historic loss of 251 seats in July, causing the leadership in England and Scotland to collapse, upstart contenders have been quick to slam the move by the Labour PM. Meghan Gallacher, who wants to be leader of the Scottish Tories, said: “It’s disgraceful that Keir Starmer would remove a picture of Britain’s first female Prime Minister.

"Regardless of your opinions on Margaret Thatcher, she paved the way for women in politics and tackled sexist stereotypes head on. She’s an inspiration for many, a defining figure in British politics, and she deserves to be recognised for her many achievements. Her legacy should be honoured, the portrait should be returned.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-pulls-margaret-thatcher-s-downing-street-portrait-down-after-finding-it-unsettling/ar-AA1pFJC3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=37723af547d54db1b091d7a7979a39e7&ei=13

Moonlight

08-30-24, 06:23 AM

Things are going to be worse here in the next two decades than anything that's ever been seen before, the UK is in the grip of a death spiral, and when Starmer runs out of other peoples money to spend the UK is going to crash and burn, it's inevitable.

Jimbuna

08-30-24, 08:24 AM

Reeves urged to launch urgent review of winter fuel payment thresholds

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/reeves-warned-to-launch-urgent-review-of-winter-fuel-payment-thresholds/ar-AA1pImre?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=939aaa7f87ca401483ba0c22b5c5034c&ei=14

Moonlight

08-31-24, 06:17 AM

Newly-elected Labour MP is exposed as landlord who rents out flats riddled with black mould, broken lights and ant infestations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13798163/Labour-MP-exposed-landlord-rents-flats-riddled-black-mould.html

Tenants living inside Mr Athwal's flats said they were being threatened with eviction if they complained about the conditions.

They added that Mr Athwal and his manager were slow to respond to complaints or were completely unresponsive. Pictures from the flats purportedly showed black mould, damage entrances and broken lights in communal areas.

A typical slum landlord who's making all the right noises now he's been caught out, these pillocks always pull a scapegoat out of a hat instead of looking into a mirror and seeing the real culprit.
He claimed to be a 'renters' champion', crikey, I think he meant to say a "Renters Nightmare".

Will there be more updates on these "Slum Landlords", if he was white it would have been splashed all over the Front pages and TV. What will Angela Rayner the Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities since July 2024 make of all this, her response will be full of word salad and go something like, "He's a gentleman and a well respected member of the community" blah, blah, blah, blah.

Bollocks Angela, he's just another oxygen thief who needs to meet a tap and a bucket. :O:

Jimbuna

08-31-24, 08:02 AM

'He's insecure!' Art critic savages Keir Starmer over removal of Thatcher portrait

Prime Minister Keir Starmer has been branded "weak and insecure" after he took down a portrait of Margaret Thatcher in Number 10 Downing Street.

The Labour leader's biographer, Tom Baldwin, has said that the Prime Minister removed the portrait because he found it "unsettling."

Art critic Estelle Lovatt has hit out at Mr Starmer, telling BBC Radio 2: "This story is really quite bizarre, and on the one hand it shows that Starmer is weak and insecure in himself.

"The painting hangs above a fireplace, so it is up high. Traditionally in the world of art...if there was something perhaps a little indiscreet like a naked body in a painting, it would be hung up high so that the men wouldn't be able to glance at it."
This comes after a number of Conservatives also criticised Mr Starmer.

The Conservative Party wrote on X on Thursday: "Tell me you've got a problem with women without telling me you've got a problem with women."

Baroness Foster, the former first minister of Northern Ireland, also posted on X: "I think it is 'unsettling' that the PM should remove the first female PM from No 10. He cannot deny her role in our nation as the most significant PM after Churchill. Not a good start from Labour, looks and feels vindictive and petty."

Former Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg said the Prime Minister's decision was "petty-minded."

Former Home Secretary Priti Patel added: "On Keir Starmer, where shall we start? 56 days in office and he seems to be spending more time removing portraits of great, strong, Conservative female leaders rather than getting on and doing the strong job of governance.

"I think it tells us everything really about his priorities. His priorities are not on serving the country.

"His priorities are literally just about tinkering at the margins, hiding behind great portraits of great Conservative female prime minister. That is why we need to get him out of office."

Mr Starmer has removed the portrait despite heaping praise on Ms Thatcher back in December.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/he-s-insecure-art-critic-savages-keir-starmer-over-removal-of-thatcher-portrait/ar-AA1pJrGO?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=9ea81fc6e3e4454f803621911adda60a&ei=55

Moonlight

08-31-24, 11:28 AM

'THE END OF PUBS' Revellers’ stark warning after party city OUTLAWS smoking outside new bars – as Starmer reveals plans for UK-wide ban

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/30183817/smoking-ban-outside-new-bars-restaurants-pubs-newcastle/

Kill Joy Was Here

Jimbuna

08-31-24, 12:21 PM

Hypocrisy in its finest form.

Sir Keir Starmer's top business adviser reportedly attended a lockdown party at 10 Downing Street.

The accusation comes just days after the Prime Minister made reference to the controversial gathering that rocked Boris Johnson's Government. On Monday, Sir Keir - standing in the rose garden at number 10 - used the incident as an excuse to shame the Tories.

However, it's now being claimed that one of Sir Keir's most senior political aides was at the now infamous 'cheese and wine party'. Varun Chandra was reportedly a guest in No10 on May 15, 2020 - and appears in the background of the controversial photograph, with Boris Johnson and Dominic Cummings, that exposed the incident to a furious British public.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/keir-starmer-s-adviser-attended-no10-lockdown-party-that-pm-blasted/ar-AA1pLJ3G?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=3f303e68a2754be1a061746cf109f814&ei=80

Jimbuna

09-01-24, 07:11 AM

Families urged to 'act now' to protect pensions and income ahead of Budget

One expert has sounded the alarm for families to make strategic financial decisions in light of the stringent measures anticipated in the forthcoming Autumn Statement.

UK families, as well as Britons living abroad, are being encouraged to take pre-emptive steps to shield their finances from the expected fiscal squeeze set to be announced in October's Autumn statement.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has admitted that the update is bound to inflict "painful" short-term impacts to secure a more stable long-term economic landscape, prompting finance experts to advise on strategies to mitigate the repercussions.

The call to action comes particularly after Nigel Green, CEO and Founder of deVere Group, cautioned both his clientele and the wider populace as Chancellor Rachel Reeves stopped short of dismissing future tax increases.
Mr Green has implored individuals to take immediate action to "act now to safeguard their wealth" in the face of evident "warning signs" indicating imminent substantial dents in household finances, anticipating a "significant tax raid".

Green also unveiled his own insight: "Capital gains tax (CGT), inheritance tax (IHT), and pension taxes are being seen by the government as low-hanging fruit- quick and effective means to generate revenue. Yet this approach threatens to pile on pressure to numerous middle-class households, including investors and affluent individuals, who are likely to bear the brunt of an increased tax load."

He also anticipates a significant "scramble" to review and redistribute wealth from investors following the statement and before the new measures are implemented.

However, he advised: "Don't wait until the Budget is announced- proactive planning is key. This includes considering tax-efficient investment vehicles, rebalancing portfolios, and potentially realizing gains under the current CGT rates before any changes are implemented, for example."

Moreover, Nigel's forecast that high-net-worth individuals could be targeted may have a ripple effect on the UK economy. He asserted: "Faced with the prospect of increased tax burdens, many wealthy individuals are actively exploring relocation to countries with more favourable tax regimes.

"Many of these individuals already own properties abroad, highlighting their international mobility and readiness to move their tax domiciles."

The mass departure this expert predicts could directly influence tax revenues which might in turn impact public services and infrastructure as well as altering the UK's global reputation among potential investors and entrepreneurs.

Ultimately, Nigel advised: "The key is early action-waiting until the budget is announced could mean missing out on crucial opportunities to mitigate the impact."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/families-urged-to-act-now-to-protect-pensions-and-income-ahead-of-budget/ar-AA1pMwwv?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=1843bfc30de34e339a26ee9b78e6d58d&ei=14

Jimbuna

09-01-24, 11:34 AM

How embarrassingly pathetic.

Home Secretary faces free-speech challenge over strengthening of hate-crime laws

Yvette Cooper is facing a legal challenge over plans to strengthen hate-crime laws in order to crack down on anti-Semitic and Islamophobic abuse.

Free-speech campaigners have warned they will take the Home Secretary to court if she reverses the previous Tory government’s decision to water down the rules on recording hate speech that fell short of criminality.

Ms Cooper is said to be committed to reversing the Tories’ decision to downgrade the monitoring of non-crime hate incidents in relation to anti-Semitism and Islamophobia so they can be logged by police.

The move follows a surge in anti-Semitic and Islamophobic incidents after the Oct 7 Hamas terror attack on Israel.

Home Office sources said it would only be recorded where “proportionate and necessary” to protect Jewish and Muslim individuals and communities from abusive and hateful comments and behaviour, while also preserving the “fundamental right” to free speech.
Suella Braverman, then home secretary, issued a code of practice last year ordering forces to stop recording the incidents just because someone was offended, amid concern that freedom of expression was being curtailed.

Officers are restricted to recording only incidents motivated by intentional hostility and that pose a real risk of escalating into significant harm. The changes followed “trivial” cases such as a man who ended up with a police file for whistling the theme tune to Bob the Builder at his neighbour, who perceived racial hatred.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/home-secretary-faces-free-speech-challenge-over-strengthening-of-hate-crime-laws/ar-AA1pOdRs?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=73db89a911194cba9dd8f8d8b0ab8397&ei=122

Jimbuna

09-02-24, 04:42 AM

Well, the honeymoon period didn't last long.

Labour blocks Winter Fuel Allowance vote as 10m pensioners at risk after axe

Labour is set to deny MPs a vote on their hated decision to axe winter fuel payments for millions of pensioners.

The Government has used its powers to lay secondary legislation, which does not require a debate in the House of Commons.

Both the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats are pushing for a vote on the scrapping of the cold weather payments this week.

But with some Labour MPs uneasy over the move, Government sources have admitted "we are not going to do that".

Responding, Mel Stride MP, Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, said: "Labour are running scared over their plans to cut Winter Fuel Payments for pensioners.

"Not only do they want to block Parliament having a say on their plans, they have not published an impact assessment as they want to hide the true costs to pensioners.
"There is no reason not to grant this debate and vote on this other than to ride roughshod over Parliament - the only reason Labour aren't granting one is because they are running scared of asking their own MPs to vote on this matter. Labour know axing the Winter Fuel Payment is the wrong thing to do. They've made this choice and they cannot defend it."

Shadow Treasury Minister Laura Trott said: "After handing billions in inflation-busting pay rises to their union paymasters, no one believes Labour's chicken little strategy.

"They should stop trying to deceive the public with ridiculous fantasies and instead have the courage to let parliament debate cuts to Winter Fuel Payments for the sake of those pensioners who will lose out thanks to the decisions of this government."

The End Fuel Poverty Coalition has warned pensioners missing out on the payments could be left £500 worse off this winter.

The new rules are due to come into force on September 16. The Government insisted it was "absolutely committed" to supporting pensioners and giving them the dignity and security in retirement.

"But given the dire state of the public finances we have inherited, it's right that we target support to those who need it most while we take the difficult decisions needed to fix the foundations of our economy," a spokesman added.

The Daily Express's crusade to save the payments has been backed by politicians on the left and right.

Campaigners warned the government the "wrath of older people will rain down on them" if it goes ahead with the winter fuel payment cuts.

New polling by the Silver Voices campaign group found its members are overwhelmingly in favour of mass days of action in protest at the controversial decision to strip most pensioners of the allowance.

Some 93 percent of respondents in the poll of 3,000 people said they would back withdrawing voluntary work that supports public services in a bid to force a U-turn.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-blocks-winter-fuel-allowance-vote-as-10m-pensioners-at-risk-after-axe/ar-AA1pQ1m7?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=041c324aaaeb42eeb38a232d3032971c&ei=16

Jimbuna

09-02-24, 10:53 AM

Lucy Connolly, the wife of a Tory councillor, has pleaded guilty to publishing a social media post stirring up racial hatred against asylum seekers.

Connolly, a 41-year-old childminder from Northampton, called for asylum seekers' hotels to be set on fire and wrote: "If that makes me racist, so be it"

She will be sentenced at Birmingham Crown Court on 17 October - the judge said it's "likely to be a substantial custodial sentence"

Speaking outside court, Connolly's husband, Raymond, says: "She knows that she overstepped the mark and there is consequences for it"

Elsewhere, a 12-year-old boy's sentencing for violent disorder has been delayed because his mother is on holiday in Ibiza.

And the 15-year-old boy who was the first person to be charged with riot after disorder in Sunderland has had his case sent to the Crown Court.

Jimbuna

09-03-24, 05:07 AM

It would appear you have a short memory Angela.

Angela Rayner taunted Tories for planning to cut winter fuel payments in unearthed post

Angela Rayner taunted the Tories for plotting to cut winter fuel payments for pensioners in an unearthed social media post.

In a tweet from 2017, the Labour firebrand asked then-PM Theresa May about the plans in the Conservative election manifesto, which were later dropped.

Ms Rayner said: "Will May confirm that 10million pensioners will lose their winter fuel payments if the Tories are re-elected?"

The tweet was posted in the run-up to the 2017 General Election, when Mrs May lost the Conservative Party's majority.

It comes as the new Labour Government is facing an intense backlash after announcing it will restrict the payments to only those on pension credit.

The payments of up to £300 a year were previously available to all pensioners regardless of income.
But the move has sparked criticism from opposition parties, charities and even some Labour politicians.

Chancellor Rachel Reeves blamed the state of the public finances when she unveiled the controversial move in July, accusing the Tories of leaving a £22billion black hole.

The Prime Minister yesterday insisted the policy will help "fix the foundations" of the economy.

Sir Keir Starmer said: "I don't want to cut the winter fuel allowance ... but we've got to fix the foundations of our economy and that's what this is all about - making sure that we fix the foundations and then, having done that, that we can build a better future that pensioners and so many other people voted for in this election."

The Government has used its powers to lay secondary legislation, which does not require a debate in the House of Commons.

The new rules are due to come into force on September 16.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angela-rayner-taunted-tories-for-planning-to-cut-winter-fuel-payments-in-unearthed-post/ar-AA1pTG0y?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=19acbd1f8354411f87b1c8a6fa1623f8&ei=14

Moonlight

09-03-24, 06:00 AM

Anger as Angela Rayner refuses to rule out scrapping council tax exemption for people living alone

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13806419/angela-rayner-council-tax-exemption-labour-party.html

Now that the Labour party have took the kid gloves off we'll be getting screwed and screwed until we've got nothing left, some of my neighbours will be affected by this council tax exemption for people living alone, they're surviving as now, but if they scrap this council tax exemption and the winter fuel payment too it's going to send them over the precipice.

Jimbuna

09-03-24, 11:36 AM

Hence one of the many reasons Labour tend to be a one-term only government.

Jimbuna

09-03-24, 12:03 PM

And so he bloody well should!

Keir Starmer 'bows to pressure' for vote on winter fuel allowance cuts

Keir Starmer looks set to bow to pressure for a vote on the winter fuel allowance axe amid a brewing Labour revolt.

The government had previously batted away calls from the Tories and Lib Dems to put the issue before the Commons.

Instead ministers were going to force the move to means test the benefit through using a so-called 'negative' statutory instrument.

However, senior sources now believe a vote could be held as early as next week. There had been doubts over whether the government could avoid a showdown, with the Conservatives able to use Opposition time to force a division.

The apparent shift emerged as Chancellor Rachel Reeves defended the winter fuel change during a torrid question session in the chamber - insisting older people had already enjoyed big state pension rises.

She faced repeated warnings from her own MPs and Opposition benches about the potential consequences of stopping winter fuel payments for people in England and Wales who do not get Pension Credit or other means-tested benefits.

The policy is expected to strip around 10million pensioners of the £300 payments, saving around £1.4billion this year.

Speaking at Treasury questions, Ms Reeves said she would not speculate on next month's Budget after the Conservatives urged her to guarantee that she will not increase taxes on pensions.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/keir-starmer-bows-to-pressure-for-vote-on-winter-fuel-allowance-cuts/ar-AA1pV9TA?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=c47f6354c51645d398ee8175a5082bab&ei=14

Rockstar

09-03-24, 12:44 PM

Jimbuna

09-03-24, 12:58 PM

Scottish government confirms £500m in cuts

Scotland's Finance Secretary Shona Robison has announced up to £500m of cuts to balance the government's budget.

Ms Robison told parliament the country was facing "enormous and growing" financial pressure, including additional costs of £800m in this financial year.

She cited public sector pay deals, "prolonged" Westminster austerity, inflation, the pandemic and the war in Ukraine.

As well as direct cuts, the government will reallocate up to £460m raised in an auction of seabed plots for offshore projects - cash that was previously earmarked to tackle the climate crisis.

The finance secretary, who announced a total of £933m in measures to balance the budget, told parliament: "We cannot ignore the severe financial challenges we face.

"We will continue to be a fiscally responsible government and balance the budget each year - as we have done every year for 17 years and we will do again this year.

“But this will mean we must unfortunately take difficult decisions along the way.”

Opposition figures pointed to a Scottish Fiscal Commission report that found much of the financial pressure on the public purse “comes from the Scottish government’s own decisions”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2y1e4jpz3o

Dargo

09-03-24, 01:01 PM

The percentage of British people who are proud over Britain’s history has decreased from 86% to 64% over the past 10 years.

The results from the British Social Attitudes Survey of 2023 have some politicians worried and wondering what the cause could be for such a drop in patriotism

Gee I wonder

https://i.ibb.co/9NGpQz6/IMG-0465.jpgOrly? History? Yes, in the mid-nineteenth century, Pakistan was part of British India. People from those regions served as soldiers in the British Indian Army, and some were deployed to other parts of the British Empire. Between 1815 and 1914, a period referred to as Britain's "imperial century" by some historians, around 10 million sq mi (26 million km2) of territory and roughly 400 million people were added to the British Empire.

https://i.postimg.cc/KvJXNGKs/British-Empire-1921.png
The British Empire at its territorial peak in 1921

Jimbuna

09-04-24, 08:00 AM

I find the arrogance of this woman quite annoying, especially when you consider she is given an allowance to cover her energy costs paid for by the tax payers of our country.

Rachel Reeves has suggested pensioners can afford winter fuel payment cuts due to increases in the state pension and energy bills being lower than last year.

The Chancellor made the comments at Treasury questions in the House of Commons as she defended the decision to restrict the allowance to only those on pension credit.

Tory MP Wendy Morton said thousands of pensioners in her Aldridge-Brownhills constituency are "worried at the prospect" of losing their winter fuel payment "on which they rely".

Ms Morton asked Ms Reeves: "Will she reconsider and reverse her decision?"

The Chancellor replied: "The increases in the basic state pension mean that constituents of hers are £900 better off than they were a year ago and of course energy bills are lower this year than they were last year.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/rachel-reeves-suggests-pensioners-can-afford-winter-fuel-payment-cuts/ar-AA1pV2EV?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=c80e7debc9da414f8bee9387c9a707f0&ei=29

Jimbuna

09-05-24, 08:01 AM

MPs to vote on winter fuel payment cut

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/mps-to-vote-on-winter-fuel-payment-cut/ar-AA1q30vw?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=df0581c83d8441a5987490cae6aaa684&ei=12

Moonlight

09-06-24, 09:46 AM

Cost of furnishing asylum seeker flats is too ‘sensitive’ to be released, says watchdog

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/cost-of-furnishing-asylum-seeker-flats-is-too-sensitive-to-be-released-says-watchdog/ar-AA1q7jos?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cc737fb8540d4a71861d719cc7c8fdd9&ei=50

James Cleverly, when he was home secretary, paused plans to move asylum seekers into the flats after a local backlash. It was claimed that, on the open market, the flats would have cost £1,400 a month to rent.
The Home Office, refused to reveal the cost of furnishing a block of flats to be used by 346 asylum seekers in Farnborough, Hampshire. The apartments were allegedly finished with flat-screen TVs and satellite television.

It's no wonder these Scrounging Migrants want to come here, this fiasco is not a deterrent it's an incentive for them, Scrounging Politicians, Scrounging Lords and Scrounging Migrants, Vladimir Putin could cross the channel in a small boat and these pillocks would give him access to our benefit system, it's bleeding madness.

Jimbuna

09-06-24, 12:15 PM

What a load of rubbish....Starmer doesn't even have a plan about how to stem the flow of illegals.

PM attends small boats summit as Home Secretary insists progress is being made

People smugglers “should not be able to get away with” putting lives at risk, the Home Secretary has said ahead of a summit aimed at destroying the gangs involved in the trade.

Yvette Cooper said crossings were down in July and August compared to previous years, but lives were still being lost and smuggling gangs were still operating along the French coast.

Speaking ahead of a meeting with the Prime Minister and law enforcement officials on plans to tackle people smugglers, she told broadcasters: “Those gangs should not be able to get away with it, and that’s why we are determined to go after them.”

She stressed that the new Government was both hiring more investigators for the National Crime Agency (NCA) and working more closely with other European nations to address the issue.
Senior ministers including Foreign Secretary David Lammy, Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood and Attorney General Lord Hermer also attended Friday’s summit at the NCA headquarters in London, alongside representatives from the NCA, Border Force and the intelligence community.

An analysis commissioned by the Home Secretary which dives into the gangs’ capability was expected to be examined at the summit, which also considered closer collaboration with European agencies such as Europol, and advancing the new Border Security Command.

The summit comes at the end of a week which saw the deaths of at least 12 people die after their boat was “ripped apart” off the northern French coast while they attempted to cross the Channel.

Some 1,276 people have already crossed the Channel this week, bringing the total for the year so far to 22,328 – around 648 more than at the same point last year but 5,269 less than in 2022.

Since the general election, 8,754 people have made the crossing, less than in the same two-month period in either 2022 or 2023.

Speaking before the summit, Ms Cooper said: “The last two months has seen encouraging progress, with significant seizures of boats and equipment in Europe.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/pm-attends-small-boats-summit-as-home-secretary-insists-progress-is-being-made/ar-AA1q7hEs?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5cb3c67bb41c431e8f5588c4fa14c1b0&ei=125

Jimbuna

09-06-24, 12:38 PM

Rioter who stoked asylum hotel fire gets nine years

A man who stoked a fire outside a hotel housing more than 200 asylum seekers has been jailed for nine years - the longest sentence passed to date after widespread violence erupted across the UK last month.

Thomas Birley, 27, was seen piling chipboard onto a burning bin outside the Holiday Inn Express in Manvers, South Yorkshire, during rioting on 4 August.

Sheffield Crown Court heard those inside feared they were "going to burn to death", while Judge Jeremy Richardson KC described it as "one of the worst of many cases" he had dealt with.

Birley, of Rowms Lane, Swinton, was jailed after he admitted arson with intent to endanger life, violent disorder and possession of an offensive weapon, namely a police baton.

CCTV played to the court showed Birley, dressed in a black puffer jacket and a red face covering, abusing officers as large crowds gathered outside the building.

Prosecutor Alisha Kaye said the painter and decorator was then part of the group that smashed the ground floor window of the hotel.

He was also seen putting chipboard onto a fire that had been started in an industrial-sized waste bin which had been pushed up against a fire door.

During the violence 22 staff in the hotel barricaded themselves into the hotel's panic room while more than 200 asylum seekers were trapped inside the building, despite automated fire alarms telling them to leave.

Passing sentence, Judge Richardson said: "[This was] nothing to do with legitimate public protest. It was mob rule. The venom of racism affected the entirety of what occurred.

"People inside thought they were going to die. The lives of at least 50 people were endangered. They were all mentally scarred and in peril of being killed or injured.

"You were encouraged by malicious and ignorant posts on social media."

Birley was the first person connected with the South Yorkshire disorder to plead guilty to the charge of arson with intent to endanger life.

Describing his involvement, Ms Kaye said: "It was persistent, it was sustained, it was widespread acts of violence to people and property."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgedwp08dwdo

Rockstar

09-08-24, 09:20 AM

Study confirms that the State run BBC breached its own editorial guidelines more than 1,500 times with bias and false reporting about Israel. Former BBC executive calling it “an institutional crisis.”

But it’s not only BBC, it’s also Sky News, Guardian, FT and others. This virulent disease is running rampant in the UK, fueling hate and more phobias.

https://i.ibb.co/gdBcNb8/IMG-0497.jpg

Jimbuna

09-08-24, 11:33 AM

This guy must have had skin as thick as a rhino to have done this.

The last time I was in Portcullis House all I was offered was a cheese sandwich.

Parliament chef who served 13 prime ministers retires after 50 years

Terry Wiggins, a chef who leads the catering team at Westminster's Portcullis House, is retiring this month after 50 years. He reckons he has served 13 prime ministers in that time and is still dreaming up new recipes.

“Can I have more pork please?”

Terry bellows in the direction of the kitchen.

Under the heat lamps of the serving counter his team of chefs are busy carving a chunk of crispy pork belly, plating haddock fishcakes and replenishing huge bowls of new potatoes and roasted carrots.

A long line of parliamentary staff, MPs, a few police officers, political journalists and visitors are all waiting with their trays.

We’re in the Debate canteen in Portcullis House, the relatively new building beside the River Thames where many MPs have their offices.

It’s just across the road from the Palace of Westminster. There are many places on the Parliamentary estate to eat but this is always one of the busiest.

“It’s a hub, a meeting place. Everybody eats together, MPs queue up with the general staff... they all stand together and chat,” sous chef Terry tells me proudly as we talk beside a vat of soup.

After 50 years spent feeding our politicians, he is retiring this month.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vx0wyl6e3o

Jimbuna

09-09-24, 10:37 AM

Starmer faces union pressure ahead of winter fuel payment vote

Leaders of two of the biggest unions have added further pressure on the government over its plan to cut winter fuel payments for millions of pensioners in England and Wales.

Unite general secretary Sharon Graham told the BBC the government should "do a U-turn", while head of the PCS union Fran Heathcote said it was a "misstep" which needed to be "put right".

Paul Nowak, head of the Trades Union Congress (TUC) which brings unions together, has also said the government should "rethink" and consider other lines of support for pensioners.

Sir Keir Starmer, who is facing a potential rebellion at a vote in the Commons on Tuesday, says the cut is necessary due to the state of the country's finances.

The change will mean more than 10 million pensioners will no longer receive the payments of between £200 and £300 a year, which will now only be made to those on low incomes who receive certain benefits.

Charities and many MPs are concerned about those still on a relatively small income who will miss out.

The vast majority of those eligible will only receive the payments if they have first claimed pension credit, a state pension top-up. It is estimated that 880,000 eligible pensioners have not claimed it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg5rl612n5o

Jimbuna

09-09-24, 10:58 AM

Labour Party's own research admitted Winter Fuel cuts will kill thousands of pensioners

The Labour Party published research just seven years ago claiming that cutting Winter Fuel Payments would kill thousands of pensioners, it has been revealed.

The party published the claims in 2017, when Sir Keir was a senior member of the Shadow Cabinet, pinpointing the precise number of deaths changes would cause.

Attacking Theresa May's proposals, Labour predicted that there would be 3,850 excess deaths the following winter.

The research was published in the wake of Theresa May's manifesto pledge to means test the winter fuel allowance, though unlike Labour Mrs May pledged to hold a post-election "consultation" on exactly what threshold would be the cut-off.

The Labour Party went into overdrive during that general election in criticising the plan, describing it as the "single biggest attack on pensioners in a generation in our country".

Their 2017 dossier continued: "Since the introduction of the winter fuel payment by Labour in 1997, allowing for significant variation in winter weather, deaths among the elderly have fallen from around 34,000 to 24,000."

"Half of the almost 10,000 decrease in so-called 'excess winter deaths' - the rise in mortality that occurs each winter - between 2000 and 2012 was due to the introduction of the winter fuel allowance."

Last night a sitting Labour MP described this revelation as proof of "blatant hypocrisy".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/labour-party-s-own-research-admitted-winter-fuel-cuts-will-kill-thousands-of-pensioners/ar-AA1qg9RW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=801cd466c7ec41ffa88c50a0fdc8be93&ei=23

Jimbuna

09-10-24, 12:11 PM

Jimbuna

09-10-24, 12:25 PM

Opposition MPs have failed to block government plans to cut winter fuel payments for most pensioners.

A total of 348 MPs backed the government, with 228 supporting the opposition motion.

During a heated Commons debate before the vote, Conservative MP Esther McVey said Labour was "out of touch with the public" and called for an impact assessment on the change.

Labour MP Anna Dixon said her party was not to blame for the need to make a cut, pointing the finger at a Tory "scorched earth policy"

Conservative Edward Leigh said he was willing to debate "why people like me" should get the payment.

Earlier, Keir Starmer told the TUC conference "we won't be reckless" with people's money and again said Labour had inherited a "£22bn black hole"

mapuc

09-10-24, 02:33 PM

The House of the Insane at Westminster sat today and the majority of those who receive heating allowance paid for by the taxpayer voted to deny British pensioners their Winter Fuel Allowance.

Well done to you all I don't know how you can live with yourselves.

You are not the only one who's angry a few of my British friends on FB is angry too and here is what one them wrote:

"Now you’ve stopped the winter fuel payments for pensioners and free tv licences for the over 75's there is no reason why you can’t stop all the handouts for the boat people.
Lets see whos prepared to flood fb with this."

Markus

Rockstar

09-10-24, 06:01 PM

Can’t afford to heat the prisons or just making room for those convicted of mean tweets?

The UK executed its largest ever early prisoner release today, with 1700 released today.

Many were received by fellow gang members with champagne & loud music from rented cars

5000 more to be released early over the next 2 months

https://i.ibb.co/XLpTbfK/IMG-0514.jpg

Jimbuna

09-11-24, 06:06 AM

You are not the only one who's angry a few of my British friends on FB is angry too and here is what one them wrote:

"Now you’ve stopped the winter fuel payments for pensioners and free tv licences for the over 75's there is no reason why you can’t stop all the handouts for the boat people.
Lets see whos prepared to flood fb with this."

Markus

And that Markus is one of the reasons Labour usually end up being a one-term government.

Jimbuna

09-11-24, 06:28 AM

All the Labour MPs who didn't vote to cut Winter Fuel Payment - full list

The division list showed Labour MP Jon Trickett supported the Conservative motion while no vote was recorded for 53 Labour MPs.

This does not automatically equate to an abstention for each MP as they may have received permission to miss a vote.

Abbott, Ms Diane

Labour

Hackney North and Stoke Newington

Ali, Tahir

Labour

Birmingham Hall Green and Moseley

Allin-Khan, Dr Rosena

Labour

Tooting

Anderson, Fleur

Labour

Putney

Antoniazzi, Tonia

Labour

Gower

Barker, Paula

Labour

Liverpool

WavertreeBeavers, Mrs Lorraine

Labour

Blackpool North and Fleetwood

Benn, Hilary

Labour

Leeds

SouthBishop, Matt

Labour

Forest of Dean

Blundell, Mrs Elsie

Labour

Heywood and Middleton North

Brickell, Phil

Labour

Bolton West

Buckley, Julia

Labour

Shrewsbury

Butler, Dawn

Labour

Brent East

Cooper, Dr Beccy

Labour

Worthing West

De Cordova, Marsha

Labour

Battersea

Doughty, Stephen

Labour (Co-op)

Cardiff South and Penarth

Duffield, Rosie

Labour

Canterbury

Duncan-Jordan, Neil

Labour

Poole

Eagle, Maria

Labour

Liverpool Garston

Eccles, Cat

Labour

Stourbridge

Edwards, Sarah

Labour

Tamworth

Efford, Clive

Labour

Eltham and Chislehurst

Foy, Mary Kelly

Labour

City of Durham

Furniss, Gill

Labour

Sheffield Brightside and Hillsborough

Hamilton, Paulette

Labour

Birmingham Erdington

Hodgson, Mrs Sharon

Labour

Washington and Gateshead South

Ingham, Leigh

Labour

Stafford

Johnson, Dame Diana

Labour

Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

Johnson, Kim

Labour

Liverpool Riverside

Kane, Mike

Labour

Wythenshawe and Sale East

Khan, Naushabah

Labour

Gillingham and Rainham

Lavery, Ian

Labour

Blyth and Ashington

Lewell-Buck, Mrs Emma

Labour

South Shields

Lewis, Clive

Labour

Norwich South

Martin, Amanda

Labour

Portsmouth North

Maskell, Rachael

Labour (Co-op)

York Central

McDonald, Andy

Labour

Middlesbrough and Thornaby East

Morris, Grahame

Labour

Easington

Osamor, Kate

Labour (Co-op)

Edmonton and Winchmore Hill

Osborne, Kate

Labour

Jarrow and Gateshead East

Ribeiro-Addy, Bell

Labour

Clapham and Brixton Hill

Riddell-Carpenter, Jenny

Labour

Suffolk Coastal

Rimmer, Ms Marie

Labour

St Helens South and Whiston

Shah, Naz

Labour

Bradford West

Smith, Cat

Labour

Lancaster and Wyre

Smith, Sarah

Labour

Hyndburn

Stainbank, Euan

Labour

Falkirk

Stevenson, Kenneth

Labour

Airdrie and Shotts

Thomas-Symonds, Nick

Labour

Torfaen

Webb, Chris

Labour

Blackpool South

Whittome, Nadia

Labour

Nottingham East

Yasin, Mohammad

Labour

Bedford

Zeichner, Daniel

Labour

Cambridge

Moonlight

09-11-24, 08:37 AM

Dozens of killers will walk free under Keir Starmer's early prison release plan: Criminals convicted of manslaughter ARE eligible for discounted jail terms

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13837311/keir-starmer-early-release-plan-killers-free-eligible.html

One of the most serious offenders to be released early is Lawson Natty who supplied a machete used to kill 14-year-old Gordon Gault in Newcastle in November 2022.

https://i.ibb.co/0Gfwj30/89529391-13837311-One-of-the-most-serious-offenders-to-be-released-early-is-Lawson-a-16-172604350896.png (https://ibb.co/W2cTW1r)

Non violent prisoners?, that twat above should have been given the choice of a bucket or a baseball bat, the Criminal Protection Service (CPS) is not fit for purpose and neither is that bitch of a justice minister Shabana Mahmood.

Jimbuna

09-11-24, 08:46 AM

I take it you're not a fan then :)

Jimbuna

09-11-24, 09:15 AM

Rioter's mum to pay compensation after Ibiza trip

A mum who went on holiday to Ibiza rather than attending her son's sentencing hearing for his role in riots has been ordered to pay compensation.

Her 12-year-old boy was said to have shown the "worst type of feral behaviour" during two separate episodes of disorder in Manchester on 31 July and 3 August.

The 30-year-old mother was ordered to pay £1,200 compensation - approximately the same price as her holiday - and attend a six-month parenting course.

The boy, who cannot be named because of his age, was handed a 12-month referral order and told had he been an adult he could have been sent to prison for between four and five years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdn8dj62wo

Jimbuna

09-11-24, 01:16 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/bYSQpKmB/459317663-7965465403578929-3739794980994551243-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Jimbuna

09-12-24, 07:41 AM

NHS must reform or die, PM says after major report

"Ballooning" NHS England waiting times and delays getting emergency treatment are costing lives, according to a critical government-commissioned report on the service.

People have "every right to be angry," the prime minister says, adding the health service must "reform or die".

Health Secretary Wes Streeting has warned the NHS could "go bust" if the government does not reform it to account for an ageing society, more sick people and rising costs.

He pledged to spend a greater proportion of the NHS budget on GPs, social care and "community services" than on hospitals, which he said would help alleviate pressure on the service overall.

But the Conservatives said the government needed to turn "rhetoric to action" after scrapping its plans to reform social care and build new hospitals.

The report, external was the result of a nine-week review by the independent peer and NHS surgeon Lord Darzi.

He was asked by Labour, shortly after the election, to identify the failings in the health service, but his remit did not stretch to coming up with solutions.

His findings present a stark picture of a service which he says is in a "critical condition" and "serious trouble".

In response, Sir Keir Starmer is promising "the biggest reimagining of the NHS" since it was formed, with a new 10-year plan for the health service to be published in the coming months.

He proposes three key areas of reform: the transition to a digital NHS, moving more care from hospitals to communities, and focusing efforts on prevention over sickness.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w6g0gzw40o

I certainly won't be holding my breath.

Gorpet

09-12-24, 11:03 PM

I certainly won't be holding my breath.

Jimbuna, I'm an American,So can you tell me how Keir Starmer and his party of Politicians.Did not know what was going on in the government when they themselves were a part of the Government.
And now they are hobbled by the previous.Administration, there is now a Billion dollar deficit. And now you have a Prime Minister and a government that appears to want war with Russia. I'm left scratching my head.With everything that's going on in your country. Please tell me why, your country wants war?

Jimbuna

09-13-24, 06:57 AM

A surefire recipe for disaster.

Keir Starmer dealt massive blow as Labour poll lead plummets after winter fuel betrayal

Labour's poll lead has plummeted since the general election, according to a new poll, which sets out the political impact of Sir Keir Starmer's first two months in office.

Since coming to power, Labour has announced swinging cuts to infrastructure project, slashed winter fuel payments for millions of pensioners, handed above-inflation pay rises to their union paymasters and cut housing targets in London.

Despite being outwardly cocky about his election win, however, a new poll by More In Common deals a hammer blow to Sir Keir Starmer today.

It reveals that since July, Labour's popularity has sunk by six points, to just 29%.

This means that even in the midst of a leadership election, the Tories are now just four points behind the Sir Keir Starmer.

While the Tories remain static on 25% since the election, other smaller parties are the main beneficiaries of Labour's misfortune.

Reform UK is up 3 points to a whopping 18%, with the party's chairman Zia Yusuf observing: "Reform is winning support from Labour at great speed."

"This is just *2 months* post an election they won.

"Imagine what a few years will do. No wonder Starmer is petrified."

The Liberal Democrats are up 2 points to 14%, while the Greens have increased the same amount to 8%.

The SNP remain static on just 3% of the vote following their near-wipeout at the election.

The poll was conducted from September 10 to 12, meaning those asked for their voting intention will have been able to take into account this week's vote by Labour MPs in favour of slashing Winter Fuel Payments.

Reacting to the shock poll, Tory commentator Andrew Lilico said that while polls don't matter at the moment, "it's pretty remarkable to have won a majority of over 170 so recently yet already be polling under 30% & with a lead of only 4%."

Former Tory advisor Iain Mansfield added: "Truly startling to see no party with over 30% vote share."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/keir-starmer-dealt-massive-blow-as-labour-poll-lead-plummets-after-winter-fuel-betrayal/ar-AA1qvMMQ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=b38f052d57f74c89834140b48105a66a&ei=22

Jimbuna

09-13-24, 12:32 PM

Angry carer dad Ed Davey blasts: 'they don't understand'

Keir Starmer must urgently grasp the scale of the UK's care crisis before his Government sets out its first Budget, Sir Ed Davey says.

The Lib Dem leader said he is "frustrated and disappointed" that sorting out social care doesn't seem to be a top priority for Labour. In an interview with The Mirror he said the Tories "didn't give a monkeys" about the plight of carers - but fears the new Government "don't quite understand".

Sir Ed, who spoke movingly about caring for his 12-year-old son during the General Election campaign, urged the PM to draw up radical plans to improve carers' pay. Without doing so, he warned, the NHS and the economy will continue to suffer.

Speaking ahead of the party's conference in Brighton, the Lib Dem leader said: "I'm getting the sense from Labour that they don't quite understand carers. We all knew the Tories didn't give a monkey's about carers, and they were clear, we got no traction with them at all.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/angry-carer-dad-ed-davey-blasts-they-don-t-understand/ar-AA1qwqHW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68005808e8b94d4ea0741fb6dafbe9de&ei=35

Dargo

09-13-24, 01:22 PM

Jimbuna, I'm an American,So can you tell me how Keir Starmer and his party of Politicians.Did not know what was going on in the government when they themselves were a part of the Government.
And now they are hobbled by the previous.Administration, there is now a Billion dollar deficit. And now you have a Prime Minister and a government that appears to want war with Russia. I'm left scratching my head.With everything that's going on in your country. Please tell me why, your country wants war?Since 2010 the Conservative was the government since 2024 Labour has won the election so to your two questions it was not Labour that was in power for 14 years policy was not made by Labour. The minimal productivity growth since 2010 has also had meaningful negative consequences for living standards. The 2010s were remarkable not only for poor economic performance and the scale of public spending retrenchment, but also for the loosest monetary policy in history. The Conservatives and the Economy, 2010–24 (https://ifs.org.uk/publications/conservatives-and-economy-2010-24)

Jimbuna

09-14-24, 03:48 AM

Labour sneaks out shocking winter fuel payment figures on a Friday night

Shock figures showing most disabled pensioners will lose their winter fuel allowance were snuck out by officials on Friday evening.

The Department for Work and Pensions also admitted that 83% of retirees over 80 - around 2.7 million people - will be stripped of £300.

Ex-pensions minister Sir Steve Webb, a partner at pension consultants LCP, criticised the government for waiting until after the vote before releasing the figures.

Sir Steve said: "It is shocking that this impact assessment has appeared late on a Friday evening, three days after MPs voted on the issue.

"The Government's own figures show that 7 in 10 disabled people over pension age will lose their winter fuel payment and more than 8 in 10 of those aged 80 or over.
"The Treasury confirms our analysis that those who miss out on pension credit or are just a few pounds above the cut-off are likely to be significantly negatively affected.

"This information should have been in front of MPs when they decided whether to support the policy."

The DWP released a "high level equality analysis" following a freedom of information request.

Men are more likely to lose out under the changes than women, while 97% of couples will be hit, some 5.5 million pensioners, and 4.5 million of those who live alone.

The figures showed that 71% of people with a disability who currently get a winter fuel payment will lose it, around 1.6m pensioners.

Labour is axing the universal allowance, which is £200 for pensioners under 80 and £300 for those over, to save £1.5 billion

Instead only retirees who receive pension credit or other means-tested benefits will receive payments this year.

The Express crusade to save the payment has been backed by MPs from across the political spectrum.

But the government insists pensioners will be "better off" as the triple lock will put up state pensions by £400.

Sir Keir Starmer has refused also to rule out scrapping the 25% single-person council tax discount, saying decisions on the public finances had to be looked at "in the round".

Scrapping the discount could further hit some pensioners living alone who have already suffered the loss of winter fuel payments, but the Prime Minister insisted he was not punishing older Britons.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/labour-sneaks-out-shocking-winter-fuel-payment-figures-on-a-friday-night/ar-AA1qxpTa?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f04e2fef0ff24414a6f055a23a4bab18&ei=14

mapuc

09-14-24, 05:52 AM

And I who tought that parties like the Labour was on the ordinary people side

I can see that they are like the others-Far from being a working party.

Markus

Jimbuna

09-14-24, 05:57 AM

And I who tought that parties like the Labour was on the ordinary people side

I can see that they are like the others-Far from being a working party.

Markus

We, like so many other countries need a clear out Markus.

Jimbuna

09-14-24, 06:36 AM

Starmer sympathises with pensioners over winter fuel but dismisses Labour’s own claim 4,000 will die

Sir Keir Starmer has claimed he “sympathises” with millions of pensioners who have lost their winter fuel allowance and no longer stands by Labour’s own research that the cut will lead to thousands of deaths.

The prime minister was pressed on the issue which has dominated domestic politics in the UK as he flew to Washington DC for a strategic summit on Ukraine and the Middle East with Joe Biden.

Asked if the removal of winter fuel allowance was “a punishment beating” for a demographic which usually votes Conservative, Sir Keir retorted “absolutely not!”

But he admitted that the first two months of his premiership has been framed a “gloom” but insisted he would fight the election on his record and delivering on his promises, dismissing recent polls which have seen his approval ratings plummet.

When challenged on concerns that he may cut other benefits including the council tax discount, which could hit some pensioners by £1,000 a year, Sir Keir said that he would not start ruling things out ahead of the Budget.

“ I’m not going to say before the Budget what we’re going to do. That does not mean that I’m ruling in anything that you might be putting to me, it simply means like every Prime Minister we’re not going to reveal what’s in the Budget before we get to it. We did this in the election all the way through.”

This is despite the government already guaranteeing the the free TV licence and bus passes for the elderly this week.

Challenged on what he will feel if pensioners die this winter, Sir Keir said: "I think it is very important for me to make clear that we are pushing really hard on pension credit to make sure that everybody who is entitled to it is on pension credit.

"Secondly, linking housing benefits to winter fuel payments, and they are automatically protected. And triple lock, you’ve seen the prediction, it will increase by £450, £460.”

Addressing Labour’s own assessment in 2017 that means testing winter fuel payments would kill 4,000 people, he said: "The last assessment was many years ago."

Asked if he stood by that assessment, the prime minister said: "No, it’s a different assessment, different context.”

The assessment was made under the leadership of his predecessor Jeremy Corbyn when Theresa May tried to get rid of winter fuel payments in the Tory election manifesto before U-turning on the threat.

Sir Keir added: “Of course I’ve got every sympathy with anyone who is struggling with any of their bills.

“I’m not pretending this is an easy decision, it’s a difficult decision. But the question we’ve got to answer is, how are you going to make up for a £22 billion shortfall this year, which we hadn’t expected to find, and we’ve taken the view that we have to stabilise the economy, we’ve got to deal with it.

“I didn’t want to do what the last government did which is pretend it’s not there, kick it down the road, put it in the long grass, or just leave it off the balance books because I don’t think that we can stabalise the economy…if we don’t stabilise the economy, we run the risk of inflation, we run the risk of not being able to end the cost of living crisis and that will hit pensions really, really hard.”

He said that it is“vitally more important” for pensioners that “the NHS is up and running properly, that transport is running properly.”

“Many, many people say to me their first worry is the state of the NHS and so this provides the platform for us to do the work we need to do there.”

On his own falling popularity, he said: “I’ll be judged when we get to the next election, on whether I delivered against the promises that I made. The promises I made were to stabilise and grow the economy so that everybody feels better off across the country, to ensure we’ve got a health service which isn’t just back on its feet, but is actually fit for the future, to ensure that we’ve got renewable energy, which will ensure that we’ve got cheaper energy, independence over our energy supply, and take the next generation of jobs.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/starmer-sympathises-with-pensioners-over-winter-fuel-but-dismisses-labour-s-own-claim-4-000-will-die/ar-AA1qxA3f?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8d120c7ac51a4467b59e1ec353e232a4&ei=17