Help my game is closing

[SnipersHunter]

Hey my game is just closing after 20 minutes without an error message or somethink else. What can i do?
Here is my modlist:
Accurate German Flags
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
silentmichal's interior mod 1.2.3
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
Fix clock rear torpedo room VIIA
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters
DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds
Small_trees_SH5_V1
sobers smoke screen V1 SH5 (DynEnv compatible)
sobers water splash anim SH5
sobers best ever fog V22 SH5
sobers base sky mechanics V1
sobers better terrain v3 SH5
sobers waves mod V12 27032013
sobers more trees SH5
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
EUF_UBoat_FX_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
SH5 Longer Repairs v.1
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith
Naights Submaine Textures v1.2G (PUV)
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 Basemod
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 HOTFIX 3
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches).7z
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith_Patch_1
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible
Depth Charge Fix
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
MCCD_1.04_GER //(Sober got a combined mod for it)
Speech fixes and additions (german version)
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
TDW FX Fix for Sobers chimney smoke
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option Two
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
Sobers Terrain fix for OH2 V2.2
oh2v22_de_test
SH5Lifeboats_by_Rongel_TDW_stoianm_v2.11
Targor's SH5 Wooden Lifeboats ver. 0.3
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
RSD v5.3- Torpedo screen Fix
SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1
Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01
SH5 External Cargo 1.0
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
sobers Lights Cfg V5 SH5
IO_StrategicMap_7_4_2_for_TDWv742
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
Trevally TDC Help v2
MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
sobers no footstep sound mod
sobers Realistic contrast V6 SH5
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 1. Base Mod
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 2.a Alternate Tool Graphics - Wooden Handle
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 3. Shadowed Cursors
gap - Alternative Cursors & KM Map Tools v2 - 4.b Alternate Dialog Cursors - Shadowed
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm (german)
Warfox deck crew always whispering SH5 German Version
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
sobers bad weather deck gun V5 SH5
sobers map colors SH5 V1
Allgemeine Deutsche Übersetzung


Part of Sobers modlist and activated at the same position
Part of Sober modlist but not activated at the same position
Not Part of Sobers modlist

[SnipersHunter]

I tried it a second time now it closed after 36 minutes

[gap]

Hi SnipersHunter, we wish to help you, but you should assist us in doing it. :)

For a start, would you mind having a look into this post (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2119977&postcount=26) and telling us which ones of the suggested rules have you broken? I am referring especially to the point # 15 :03:

[SnipersHunter]

Oh sorry but i have no plan which mod can cause the problem :hmmm:
Do you have an idea??

[plj]

How much physical memory do you have, and how much of that is free ?

Other then that, more info is needed in order to give a meaningfull reply .. like what you are doing at the time of the crash.

Using this modlist and TC above ~ 512 could cause CTD's

[SnipersHunter]

I got 8 GB RAM and if i play sh i think about 5 are free.
It crashe randomly first a stayed behind my soundman than it just closed. At the other close i just watched through the periscope

[gap]

You got more memory than you need for this game.

For a start, I would try playing with a clean installation of SH5 with no mods enabled. If ctd's will persist, either some game file is corrupt or, in the worst case, some driver on your PC conflicts with the game (this is unlikely to happen though).

If vanilla game doesn't ctd, rebuild your own list following my suggestions at the link I have posted before.

Sometimes is better rebuilding a broken mod list (almost) from scratch, than trying to fix it. Fortunately Sober and Fifi made our lives much easier. I strongly recommend you to use one of their lists as base for your custom list, so you won't have to start again from zero. :yep:

[SnipersHunter]

Okay gap im gonna try it.
Maybe my Debugview of the Dbgview.exe can help? Should i post it?

[gap]

Maybe my Debugview of the Dbgview.exe can help? Should i post it?

Yes, it can help. I am not fully capable to understand those logs, but hopefully someone with better experience than me will pop up.

P.S: something I forgot to ask: have you enabled any of the patches by TDW?

[volodya61]

Unfortunately DebugView never shows a reason of CTD..

[gap]

Maybe my Debugview of the Dbgview.exe can help?

Yes, it can help.

Unfortunately DebugView never shows a reason of CTD..

The famous last words. Okay, SnipersHunter, forget about my last answer :D

[Echolot]

But maybe someone gets a clue whats going on with your game.

Why is Debugview there (in the mod archive)?

[gap]

But maybe someone gets a clue whats going on with your game.

Why is Debugview there (in the mod archive)?

Good remark!

In any case, posting a Debugview log won't cost you anything. Do it SnipersHunter :up:

[Trevally.]

Good remark!

In any case, posting a Debugview log won't cost you anything. Do it SnipersHunter :up:

It was made or expanded by TDW:hmmm: to reocord what is happening during loading and game play.
If you study the reports you can see whole lot of information related to ships/mast-heights etc - this was when the stadi was being fixed
You will also see reports on mods installed.
Mouse clicking was a great interest to TDW showing clicks and map zooms (all to check UI functions)

And for me it records everything that happens or is about to happen with the automation engine - great for finding errors in tutorials or auto scripts

I'm sure it does a whole lot more too......I just won't tell you that you have a mod conflict and when mod a looks for info in file x mod b has already changed that = ctd:doh::D

[plj]

DebugView is a tool, original in the sysinternals suite .. now freely distributed by MS.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896647.aspx

[SnipersHunter]

I will send my debug view next week.
And yes i use patches by TDW

[SnipersHunter]

Oh man it just closed again the next session i will open my Debub view and post it here

[SnipersHunter]

Here now it just closed after 1 hour of playing i cant post i its to long so sorry.

Hope you can help

Maybe this one causes the closing?
00009253 19:41:31 [5644] SH_ServerOrbitProtocol.cpp (111): Failed to read packet from client.



Debug.LOG (http://www.file-upload.net/download-8185664/Debug.LOG.html)

[plj]

That happens about 28 seconds before the crash, it can hardly be related I think. I cant see anything obvious in the log .. seems to be normal gameplay, untill the last message. There's an option in the patcher to disable the orbit listener .. you could test that I suppose.

[volodya61]

Debugger never shows a reason of CTD..
Disable Orbit Listener option is an option for custom missions only.. because when this option is enabled you never see campaign progress.. a campaign progress is not savable in this case..

[SnipersHunter]

Okay but i already tried to reinstall the game i startet a new campaign what could i do ...:hmm2:

[plj]

...well to a certain extend, CTD's are to be expected .. save often and at important moments, taking into account that ubisoft rushed this thing, and people are using their spare time to fix this game.

I get a CTD every hour or two of actualy playing .. time spend alt+tab-ed does not seem to matter. Using a lot of high TC seems to speed it up. Saving often seems to keep it at bay longer. I've not yet pinpointed the issue, but people using Magui seem not to have it as often if they use 'researched' modlists. Perhaps there is a memory leak or devide by 0 or other bug in the python code .. or an unintended effect that's difficult to replicate that throws an unhandled exception. There's a million options.

It also seems to be linked to ships getting into contact range or getting loaded onto the grid for lack of a better term .. detected by any of the sensors perhaps. But this is all based on a few isolated crashes not that well researched.

I tried to make an effort to pinpoint another CTD scenario .. and ended up with the bug mysteriously vanishing. sh5 is unpredictable .. feces happens untill it stops happening or someone get's lucky and has a Eureka moment :-?

It would help if you always post a modlist for reference, and try to reproduce the error first .. if we can not reproduce it, there is no way in silent hunt....ehr.. hell, that we will magically guess what's wrong unless your modlist or order is the issue.

[THE_MASK]

The mod list doesn't work , simple as that .

[SnipersHunter]

@Plj my modlist is in the first post
@sober its to 88 percent your mod order
My mod order is right,right? Maybe one mod isnt compatible with another mod...

[SnipersHunter]

...well to a certain extend, CTD's are to be expected .. save often and at important moments, taking into account that ubisoft rushed this thing, and people are using their spare time to fix this game.

I get a CTD every hour or two of actualy playing .. time spend alt+tab-ed does not seem to matter. Using a lot of high TC seems to speed it up. Saving often seems to keep it at bay longer. I've not yet pinpointed the issue, but people using Magui seem not to have it as often if they use 'researched' modlists. Perhaps there is a memory leak or devide by 0 or other bug in the python code .. or an unintended effect that's difficult to replicate that throws an unhandled exception. There's a million options.

It also seems to be linked to ships getting into contact range or getting loaded onto the grid for lack of a better term .. detected by any of the sensors perhaps. But this is all based on a few isolated crashes not that well researched.

I tried to make an effort to pinpoint another CTD scenario .. and ended up with the bug mysteriously vanishing. sh5 is unpredictable .. feces happens untill it stops happening or someone get's lucky and has a Eureka moment :-?

It would help if you always post a modlist for reference, and try to reproduce the error first .. if we can not reproduce it, there is no way in silent hunt....ehr.. hell, that we will magically guess what's wrong unless your modlist or order is the issue.
I thinks that is not a good solution , to live with ctds. Or did yiu gett all ctds and just save often?

[gap]

@Plj my modlist is in the first post
@sober its to 88 percent your mod order
My mod order is right,right? Maybe one mod isnt compatible with another mod...

Can you please edit your mod list at post #1 marking sober's mods missing from your list, and mods not featured in sober's megamod which are in your list? Also annotate if by any chance you have changed position to some mods relative to their position in sober's list :03:

[THE_MASK]

and start a new campaign :yep:

[SnipersHunter]

and start a new campaign :yep:
i already tried that but it didnt helped







I hope it could help

[SnipersHunter]

Can you please edit your mod list at post #1 marking sober's mods missing from your list, and mods not featured in sober's megamod which are in your list? Also annotate if by any chance you have changed position to some mods relative to their position in sober's list :03:

I did it and edited the first post hope it could help

[SnipersHunter]

Push

[plj]

Is this correct:

You CTD random, no difference in being in or outside port, no special thing you do or recieve at the moment of CTD.

You save at important events but not all that often.

You use a reasonable amount of TC.

?

[SnipersHunter]

Yes all is correct

[Trevally.]

@Plj my modlist is in the first post
@sober its to 88 percent your mod order
My mod order is right,right? Maybe one mod isnt compatible with another mod...

That makes it 88% correct
you will need 100% correct to call it sobers mod list - otherwise it is your mod list and by the sounds of it - it does not work

The mod list doesn't work , simple as that .

As everyone keeps saying and nobody does
remove all mods
test sh5 unmodded
add mods one at a time, testing a new career with each mod added

thats what sober did to make sobers mod list

[SnipersHunter]

Okay thats hard to check all mods but i want to play the game so i have to do it :wah:
Where should i start?

[Trevally.]

Okay thats hard to check all mods but i want to play the game so i have to do it :wah:
Where should i start?

it will be easier if you only install about 5 mods

[SnipersHunter]

Okay i will try that

[Trevally.]

Okay i will try that

pick nice mods that matter to your game
good luck:sunny:

[SnipersHunter]

Thank you i gonna need it :yep:

[plj]

Yes all is correct
Try: save at least every 2 game hours .. dont use TC over 512, save immediately after useing a good amount of TC.

For me, this halves CTD's .. could you confirm this?

[SnipersHunter]

I gonna check this...

[Mikemike47]

Okay thats hard to check all mods but i want to play the game so i have to do it :wah:
Where should i start?

it will be easier if you only install about 5 mods

Similar to what Trevally, me and others have repeatedly been saying.
Quoted from post #3 of JSGME help
(http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=204593)
Have lots of mods installed like I do? I have more than 80 running at a time.
Start with a new campaign to isolate your corrupted mod problem.
How about trying 10 mods at a time? Then the next group of 10, etc until you can narrow it down within 10 mods of where the CTD is. Once you have a crash (CTD) with 10, then try the first 5, then the other remaining 5, etc.. It is called a 1/2 step method. Then take the first 3 of 5. No CTD yet. Then try last 2.

[Aniuk]

There could be another explanation for crashing. PC performance. When you crash: how do you crash? Is everthing else ok? I once had random CTD's with SH5 and it turned out that after cleaning the inside of the PC from dust (it is a sort of vacuum cleaner) I had no CTD's anymore. It showed that the temperature of the Graphic Card was exceeding a safety treshold and it automatically shut down.

I do not know if this will help you, but I was looking in the wrong direction. Random CTD's (after playing an hour or so) was caused by the PC, not by the game or mod list (Sobers list)).

Anyway, even if this is not the case for you. Cleaning the PC is not a bad idea (if you know how to do it) Good luck with solving your problem.

My recent problem was not being able to start the game at all. And it was solved on this forum: turned out to be Norton 360 issue. :subsim:

[SnipersHunter]

I just crash. No error message etc. I think my pc specs should easily work for sh5

[plj]

I just crash. No error message etc. I think my pc specs should easily work for sh5

Yeah .. to a certain extend, it is to be expected untill the current WIP's combine to form a true megamod .. but that needs a bit of work :p

Did the tips I gave help to an extend ?

[SnipersHunter]

I already try to fix it like tervally said first try vinall than activate about 5 mods than another 5 mods.
Yes you tipps helped me but i still get ctd

[Husksubsky]

shooting blind: checked that thingy? No idea what error it causes but doesn t take long to check. I never found it on my comp.
goto - Control Panel\Programs\Programs and Features

look for - Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable 9.0.30729.4974

if you have it - delete it