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frau kaleun

06-06-13, 07:41 AM

I usually don't have that much pop in the fridge, but I do stock up on it if it's on sale and right now it might as well be in the fridge since there's room for it. If I had real food to put in there most of the 2 liters would be out in the storage room, typically I just keep one or two in the door.

The canned pop is what I take to work, 2 a day and that way I can limit my soda intake during the work day. One for the morning caffeine hit (I don't drink coffee) and one for lunch. Once the soda runs out I drink water unless I'm really, really dragging and then I might get a third Coke near the end of the day. We have a fridge in our lounge that is stocked as well and we can buy a drink from there for 30 cents a can but if I find it cheaper or the same price in the store I just buy it there and bring it from home.

Milk is for putting on cereal and in recipes that call for it, otherwise - yuck. I don't drink it as a beverage so I rarely keep it on hand and I only buy it in small quantities otherwise I end up throwing it out. And I would never defile Cheezits with the stuff. :nope: :O:

The Barilla was on sale, so was most of the other stuff. I had no list, I was just going through the aisles seeing what was on sale and if it was something I'd usually keep on hand I bought some. Mostly basics like ketchup, mustard, butter, etc. but I do consider pasta a staple food and I usually buy Barilla anyway. Also the Newman's Own Bombolina spaghetti sauce, it's awesome.

Couldn't find LaRosa's meatballs, though, I like to keep a pack of those on hand. They are really, really good. Meijer used to have them but I don't know where they went. I'll probably have to go to Kroger and look for them there.

*sigh* maybe someday I'll get really ambitious and break out my old recipe for homemade sauce and meatballs. Gotta find a kettle first. :O:

Wolferz

06-06-13, 08:21 AM

It's all your choice dear.:up:
No, I don't put milk on Cheez-its. I just didn't see any cereal in the pantry.:D
Because it's in the cabinets?
I too only buy milk in small quantities because the stepson will drink it all in one sitting and that boy is obese enough as it is.:hmmm:

What's with all the chair cushions on your chair? Too low for the new PC desk?:06:

AVGWarhawk

06-06-13, 08:48 AM

pop in the fridge Bottle of pop. Love the way the folks in the mid-west call soda pop pop. Here on the eastern seaboard we know it as just soda.

frau kaleun

06-06-13, 08:48 AM

It's all your choice dear.:up:
No, I don't put milk on Cheez-its. I just didn't see any cereal in the pantry.:D
Because it's in the cabinets?

No, there's a box of Frosted Mini Wheats in there somewhere, probably right next to the Cheezits. But I was eating those dry as a snack. :O:

What's with all the chair cushions on your chair? Too low for the new PC desk?:06:

Yep. My old desk chair was really beat up so I tossed it instead of moving it... well, actually I put it outside my apt door with a sign that said "free" and somebody else there took it. So at the moment I am making do with one of my kitchen chairs, but it takes all four chair pads to get me up to a comfortable typing height. I like to sit high, I think my arms and legs are a bit longer than average for my height anyway so most chairs feel too low to begin with. Having the keyboard up on the desktop doesn't help but I tried the keyboard drawer and didn't like it.

Once I get better situated I'll get a chair mat for the floor and get a proper adjustable desk chair in there.

Sailor Steve

06-06-13, 09:11 AM

I(I don't drink coffee)

Milk is for putting on cereal and in recipes that call for it, otherwise - yuck.
I keep telling you we're related. My sentiments exactly. I drink a lot of tea these days because I can sweeten it artifically and it tastes fine. I can't find a diet soda that tastes halfway decent at all, so I only drink a little Dr Pepper on Pizza Day.

*sigh* maybe someday I'll get really ambitious and break out my old recipe for homemade sauce and meatballs. Gotta find a kettle first. :O:
I've never liked beef on Italian food. I either make sauce with sausage or I buy some sausage links to eat on the side.

frau kaleun

06-06-13, 09:20 AM

I've never liked beef on Italian food. I either make sauce with sausage or I buy some sausage links to eat on the side.

There are different types of meatballs, I think, I've seen pork meatballs on sale. I don't know what's in LaRosa's meatballs, only that I like them. The recipe I have is all beef and that would be my preference altho I may well have had pork ones and not known it.

I don't really care for Italian sausage, at least not the kind that gets put on pizza as a topping. I don't know that I've ever had it in link form.

Typically I would only make spaghetti and put the (meatless) sauce on it and that's fine with me... I only started adding the meatballs when I found out I could buy the LaRosa's meatballs ready-made in the store. :haha: Making the sauce and meatballs from scratch is just so time-consuming. It's why I rarely make lasagna any more unless it's a special occasion and somebody else requests it. By the time I get done shopping for the ingredients, prepping the ingredients, putting it all together, and baking it... I don't even want to look at the stupid thing, much less eat it. :dead:

Sailor Steve

06-06-13, 09:30 AM

There are different types of meatballs, I think, I've seen pork meatballs on sale. I don't know what's in LaRosa's meatballs, only that I like them. The recipe I have is all beef and that would be my preference altho I may well have had pork ones and not known it.
I guess I'll have to check them out, if I can find where to buy them.

I don't really care for Italian sausage, at least not the kind that gets put on pizza as a topping. I don't know that I've ever had it in link form.
My local store has ground sausage with Italian spices. If they're out I buy regular sausage and put in Italian spices myself. When I say "links" I don't mean Jimmy Dean's breakfast links, but the big Bratwurst-style things, only Italian. I first had those at a spaghetti restaurant.

Typically I would only make spaghetti and put the (meatless) sauce on it and that's fine with me... I only started adding the meatballs when I found out I could buy the LaRosa's meatballs ready-made in the store. :haha:
Well, there you lost me. I put a whole pound of sausage in my sauce, plus a pound of mushrooms and some green onions and sometimes green peppers too. Lasts me all week. :sunny:

Making the sauce and meatballs from scratch is just so time-consuming. It's why I rarely make lasagna any more unless it's a special occasion and somebody else requests it. By the time I get done shopping for the ingredients, prepping the ingredients, putting it all together, and baking it... I don't even want to look at the stupid thing, much less eat it. :dead:
I grew up hating lasagna. My stepmother made it, and I thought it was awful. It wasn't until I was all grown up and a friend insisted I try hers. It was delicious. When I told her about my earlier experience, she said "Let me guess. She made it with cottage cheese, right? Ricotta is not the same thing."

I'm lazy. I buy the big Stouffer's baking tin of lasagna.

WernherVonTrapp

06-06-13, 09:48 AM

I stopped drinking colas a long time ago. I think as far back as high school. We did an experiment in Auto-Shop on why it's not a good idea to eat & drink while fixing people's cars and the use of fender aprons. We spilled some cola onto a fender and left it there for 24 hours. When we came back and cleaned it off, it took the paint off the car, right down to the bare sheet metal.
Of course, I'm sure car paints have improved since then, but my innards haven't. My wife drinks the stuff (& coffee) all the time, and she always complains that she doesn't feel good. I advise her to give up the cola which she does for a few days as she begins to feel better, but then she goes right back to it.

On The Leaking Spigot:
So much has changed since I used to do plumbing, almost everthing in fact. On second look at that spigot, it looks like it might already be a "frost free" model, but a much older one. Mine are all stainless steel or aluminum alloy. If that's the case, you should just get it replaced and forget trying to tighten anything.

frau kaleun

06-06-13, 10:31 AM

On The Leaking Spigot:
So much has changed since I used to do plumbing, almost everthing in fact. On second look at that spigot, it looks like it might already be a "frost free" model, but a much older one. Mine are all stainless steel or aluminum alloy. If that's the case, you should just get it replaced and forget trying to tighten anything.

I was wondering because to me (altho I haven't looked at it closely in a few days) it looks like everything is all of a piece, what should be the packing nut doesn't appear to be a separate piece that can be turned one way or the other by itself. Unless it's all so caked over on the outside with something that you can't tell where one part ends and another begins.

Wolferz

06-06-13, 10:38 AM

Gee Wern, it's not a good idea to eat while working on a car. Greasy fingers and such. :03:
I once had a co-worker comment about my consumption of Coca Cola. He said that his high school chemistry class put a nail in a bottle of coke and it consumed the nail in about a month or so. I asked him; "How long do you think the same nail would last in stomach acid?" He never mentioned it again.
Brake fluid will remove paint quicker than Coke. Coke does a great job in removing greasy road film from a windshield but, you have to wash the car down a little so it doesn't take off the paint. My first employer would have me do that for customers on rainy nights when they came in for gas.

Your wife probably feels bad as a result of all the caffeine.
While I was in basic training, they didn't allow us to drink pop and the guys that were addicted to caffeine kind of lost their marbles for a short time.:huh:

Now days, I'm more addicted to Starbucks vanilla flavored Frappucinos and I do good to consume one 12 ounce bottle of Mexican Coke a day. I won't drink the stuff made here in the states because they sweeten it with high fructose corn syrup and that stuff will make you stupid. A professor of Neurology at UCLA proved it with experiments on rats. Could be the reason why there's so many people brain farting all over the place.

Two words Frau....
Wireless Keyboard.:O:

Oh, BTW, just replace the spigot with a 21st century model. You'll be glad you did.:D

WernherVonTrapp

06-06-13, 10:59 AM

I was wondering because to me (altho I haven't looked at it closely in a few days) it looks like everything is all of a piece, what should be the packing nut doesn't appear to be a separate piece that can be turned one way or the other by itself. Unless it's all so caked over on the outside with something that you can't tell where one part ends and another begins.
Yeah, the older models are made of brass, which oxidizes outdoors (rain, sun, etc.). That's not to say you probably can't still buy them but, I would opt for an aluminum alloy model. Depending on who and how they installed it, you should just be able to shut off the water supply, unscrew the old one, pull the length out of the wall and then screw in a new one.

This is what mine looks like:
http://images.builderdepot.com/ARROWHEADBRASS_1/prodimg/1838614.JPG

Brake fluid will remove paint quicker than Coke.Yeah, we tried that one too.:03:

Wolferz

06-06-13, 11:28 AM

:huh:Yeah, the older models are made of brass, which oxidizes outdoors (rain, sun, etc.). That's not to say you probably can't still buy them but, I would opt for an aluminum alloy model. Depending on who and how they installed it, you should just be able to shut off the water supply, unscrew the old one, pull the length out of the wall and then screw in a new one.

This is what mine looks like:
http://images.builderdepot.com/ARROWHEADBRASS_1/prodimg/1838614.JPG

Yeah, we tried that one too.:03:

You should see what it does to a vinyl roof.:huh:

frau kaleun

06-06-13, 11:41 AM

This is what mine looks like:
http://images.builderdepot.com/ARROWHEADBRASS_1/prodimg/1838614.JPG

Ooooh shiny.

I'd show you mine but Neal has rules about that sort of thing. :O:

Wolferz

06-06-13, 11:51 AM

I'd show you mine but Neal has rules about that sort of thing. :O:

You have a spigot!?!? :oops::huh:

Let's see then.:03::haha:

Sailor Steve

06-06-13, 11:59 AM

I stopped drinking colas a long time ago.
Do you drink orange juice? More acid that cola.
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp

I once had a co-worker comment about my consumption of Coca Cola. He said that his high school chemistry class put a nail in a bottle of coke and it consumed the nail in about a month or so. I asked him; "How long do you think the same nail would last in stomach acid?" He never mentioned it again.
I said much the same thing in high school, except it was a piece of steak.
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp

Sailor Steve

06-06-13, 12:08 PM

This is what mine looks like:
http://images.builderdepot.com/ARROWHEADBRASS_1/prodimg/1838614.JPG

Pfffft. Doctor Who has had one of those for years.:O:

WernherVonTrapp

06-06-13, 12:17 PM

Do you drink orange juice? More acid that cola.
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp

I said much the same thing in high school, except it was a piece of steak.
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/acid.asp
Yes, I used to, now I can't drink that either, or tomato juice (doctor's suggestion due to my GI issues). I remember the crude battery made with a lemon and a couple of pennies experiment from my grammar school science class.:D I can't speak for all those other "Coke" claims, I've honestly never heard of those stories, but I did see the effects on car paint many years ago.

Ooooh shiny.

I'd show you mine but Neal has rules about that sort of thing. :O: :oops: Oops, sorry, I didn't realize how that sounded when I posted.
(chuckle) It does sound almost inappropriate.

frau kaleun

06-06-13, 12:21 PM

:oops: Oops, sorry, I didn't realize how that sounded when I posted.
(chuckle) It does sound almost inappropriate.

No need to apologize, I thought it was hilarious, especially considering the picture posted along with it.

Also: just noticed your sig, good to see another Pratchett fan around the place. He rocks.

vienna

06-06-13, 12:29 PM

The canned pop is what I take to work, 2 a day and that way I can limit my soda intake during the work day. One for the morning caffeine hit (I don't drink coffee) and one for lunch. Once the soda runs out I drink water unless I'm really, really dragging and then I might get a third Coke near the end of the day. We have a fridge in our lounge that is stocked as well and we can buy a drink from there for 30 cents a can but if I find it cheaper or the same price in the store I just buy it there and bring it from home.

...

I'm in the no coffee camp, also. If I ever drink it, it is because there is no alternative source of caffine. The number of times I drink coffee a year is less than the fingers of both my hands. I do like tea, though I often make other people cringe when I drink it strong and neat. As for milk, I also cannot stomach it straight; it has to be a part of some other element...

Regarding the soda, I quite literally live on Coke and really can no longer function without at least a can or two a day, although my consumption is rather greater than two, usually. I worked at a compnay where there was a fridge stocked with sodas available to the staff for free. I would go to the fridge in the morning, take out three or four cans of Coke, take them to my desk, and be set for at least until lunch. My consumption of Coke became a bit of a legend; whenever my boss, the CFO, had to tell me some bad news about a project gone bad or some new, last minute project, he would come by my desk and plop a six-pack of Coke down as a signal I wasn't going to like the news. I am known to be lenient to those bearing tributes of Coke...

I very happy for you the moving process has progessed with minimum problems. Did the return of you old apartment keys finally end alright?...

<O>

frau kaleun

06-06-13, 01:17 PM

I'm in the no coffee camp, also. If I ever drink it, it is because there is no alternative source of caffine. The number of times I drink coffee a year is less than the fingers of both my hands. I do like tea, though I often make other people cringe when I drink it strong and neat. As for milk, I also cannot stomach it straight; it has to be a part of some other element...

Regarding the soda, I quite literally live on Coke and really can no longer function without at least a can or two a day

I like Coke well enough, particularly as a substitute for morning coffee... I don't know why, but it just seems better first thing in the morning. But for general consumption I've always been a Pepsi gal. I only buy Coke to take to work and will only drink it at home (provided I have it on hand) if I run out of Pepsi. It's also nice to have some at home for the occasional guest who prefers it.

I very happy for you the moving process has progessed with minimum problems. Did the return of you old apartment keys finally end alright?...

I sent them to the building manager via Express Mail last Tuesday - I have a printed verification of delivery from the USPS saying the Express Mail envelope was delivered on Wednesday morning. I still have not heard anything from the building manager or landlord.

It's very possible that the manager and her husband are out of town on vacation, and have no one on deck to handle things while they are gone. In the past when I had to call them (fortunately this was rare) for emergency situations in the building - serious water leaks, for instance - I've had my call get forwarded to the manager's cell only to get her and be told that they were out of town and I'd have to deal with it myself ("just call a plumber"). :huh: On those occasions I'd call the landlord's home directly and he'd come out and fix whatever it was himself.

Of course even if the manager was in town it was like pulling teeth to get her to deal with anything. We once had two families basically living as squatters in an apt she insisted was empty and they did something that resulted in the fire dept coming out and evacuating the building until they could get inside and make sure it was safe. Even when I called about that she was like "well I don't know what you expect me to do, it's the weekend." Gee lady I dunno, HOW ABOUT YOU DO YOUR JOB? :/\\!!

vienna

06-06-13, 01:42 PM

I like Coke well enough, particularly as a substitute for morning coffee...
Same here...

I sometimes get comments from people who say something like "Ugh, how can you drink Coke so early in the day?" while holding their cup of coffee. I just point out Coke is mainly water, caffine, and sugar; so is coffee, although I'm not going to put milk or cream in my Coke (regardless of Laverne's yen for Pepsi and milk)...

<O>

AVGWarhawk

06-06-13, 01:52 PM

Coffee, milk and water is about all I drink. Only one cup of coffee in the morning. I can not stomach coke to much. I like it with pizza. The caffeinated products give me heartburn like nobodies business.

Sailor Steve

06-06-13, 03:18 PM

Even when I called about that she was like "well I don't know what you expect me to do, it's the weekend." Gee lady I dunno, HOW ABOUT YOU DO YOUR JOB? :/\\!!
I am most fortunate to live in a place that recieves a subsidy from the state. The management works out of an office on-site. I can walk over and talk to somebody any time. When the office is closed there is a person dedicated to handling emergencies. If something needs fixing or replacing I can fill out a form in the office and the cool handyman will be by to fix it in one day max.

Of course I only got in here by virtue of being officially OLD, so that comes with its own negatives. :dead:

Wolferz

06-08-13, 09:01 AM

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/energizer-bunny.jpg

Well, after you recharge the batteries.:03:

frau kaleun

06-08-13, 09:24 AM

Wolferz

06-08-13, 09:33 AM

Is that a granite countertop?

If you can find some Teflon wedges or something similar. Maybe.
Lowes has a product called composite shims that may do the job if they're the right size.

Maybe a bottle jack and a 2x4?

WernherVonTrapp

06-08-13, 09:50 AM

Oh, I'm a-gonna keep going. I don't really have a choice, I'm stuck with the place now. :O:

Got new bedroom furniture that's supposed to be delivered sometime in the next couple of hours... so I may spend the rest of the day standing in the room pondering whether or not I had them put everything in the perfect spot, and then rearranging the furniture in various ways until I find something I like. Thank heavens I finally bought some furniture sliders, those things are worth their weight in gold.

The latest fix-it dilemma has already presented itself, though:

That's the side of the counter on my kitchen "peninsula" that faces the dinette area... it's fine on the other side, there the cabinet framing supports it all the way from one end to the other. But on this side there is no support except at the two ends so it is sagging down in the middle.

I've got a couple long, narrow pieces of sturdy fiberboard that came as protective filler in an Ikea box and they are just about the right width to fit in there and provide some support, problem is I can't get them in there. I can lift up the center of the counter a bit but not enough to slide anything in that would be wide enough to make it (approximately) level all the way across.

So... can I get some kind of wedge things that I can hammer in and work my way from one end to the middle to raise and hold it up while I get something permanent in place? Keep in mind that I don't want to destroy the cabinet backs there, so maybe... I dunno... rubber wedges? Is that even the way to go here?
Well, this may not be the answer, but you can pick up an adhesive and caulking gun at Lowe's for
probably around $10.00. You also can buy any number of different styles of "counter brackets":
http://www.invitinghome.com/stainless-steel-brackets/img/brackets-1010in.jpg

You may need an extra hand, but apply the adhesive to the top section of the edge (under the counter) and then weigh it down with something heavy to keep the gaps flush against the surface. Then screw in the brackets which (if the wood on the counter is thick enough) should hold everything down and in place. Keep the weight on the counter-top until the adhesive is completely dried. In the end, you can pick up a few bar stools and you'll now have a breakfast bar.
Is that a Granite or Corian counter top? Granite is not flexible like Corian.

frau kaleun

06-08-13, 11:49 AM

It can't be granite, at least I don't think so. It looks like stone but it's some kind of flexible wood product on the other side that I can see where it protrudes out over the cabinets. Plus I can actually lift up the part that's sagging, just not enough to get anything up between the bottom of the counter and the top of the cabinet frame to brace it permanently.

I don't really think I want permanent brackets sticking out like that... still unsure about counter stools as I'll have a table and chairs right there, right now I'm leaning towards "no" on that as I think it will just clutter things up and make it feel crowded especially if I get the dining table/chairs that I eventually want to get.

All I want is something between the back of the cabinet frame and the counter bottom to fill the gap that is causing it to sag. Problem is, how to get it in there I can't hold up the counter AND do that at the same time. Some kind of "soft" wedge might be the answer.

Wolferz

06-08-13, 12:08 PM

frau kaleun

06-08-13, 12:23 PM

I dunno, Frau. A soft wedge would more than likely compress eventually or not work at all and getting the wedge/s in there could damage the woodwork. With only two hands to work with, it eliminates your previous tactic used for the hood.
Hence my reason for suggesting a bottle jack with a 2x4 wedged between the jack and the countertop from within the island. That is, if there is storage space within to allow that kind of access. Once the sag is jacked up you could then place your support material in the gap.
Disney engineering at its finest.:O:

Well, I don't want to leave the wedges in there permanently, I just need something that will give a little extra support so I can lift the counter up high enough in the middle to get something firmer in there to brace the center. I was thinking if I could get something in closer to the ends where there *is* support from the cabinet frame, I could just work my towards the middle until the middle is raised up enough. Then I can slide something in for permanent support and remove the wedges. I just don't want to drive something in there that is going to damage the cabinet frame while I'm working.

I don't know what a bottle jack is, I'll have to look it up.

Meanwhile - I have bedroom furniture! No more sleeping a foot off the floor, and a real nightstand to put a lamp on. :yeah:

Platapus

06-08-13, 12:49 PM

I don't really think I want permanent brackets sticking out like that

I bet those brackets could do a real job on someone's kneecaps if sitting on a stool by them.

WernherVonTrapp

06-08-13, 12:58 PM

I bet those brackets could do a real job on someone's kneecaps if sitting on a stool by them.
Well, the brackets on my counter don't stick out like those. They're just basic "L" brackets. I've been in many homes that have them on overlapping counter space. Probably won't see them on granite tops because of the inherent weight. My kids use our counter as a breakfast bar and have never hit themselves on the brackets.
Like I said, there are many different styles to choose from. Just Google the words "Counter Brackets" and click on "Images", you'll see what I mean.
If it's wood or Corian, you may not have another inexspensive choice.

Wolferz

06-08-13, 01:09 PM

frau kaleun

06-08-13, 01:26 PM

Hydraulic Bottle jacks...
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200304833_200304833

A six ton model sells for around $20.00
Granted, you won't need one that heavy duty unless you want to change the oil in your car. :O:

Lowes sells a two ton jobbie for $12.97

If my countertop weighs two tons and I've been lifting it an inch with just my shoulder, I need to quit this homeowner business and apply for a job with the Avengers. :O:

Looking at that picture, though, wouldn't I have to sit the thing on the floor? Like you sit a car jack on the pavement? Would it extend at the top or something, allowing the part that would be pushing upward to reach up high enough to actually make contact with the bottom of the counter? :hmmm: I've jacked a car up with something similar but a car body sits way lower to the ground.

Wolferz

06-08-13, 01:28 PM

Meanwhile - I have bedroom furniture! No more sleeping a foot off the floor, and a real nightstand to put a lamp on. :yeah:

Wouldn't sleeping a foot off the floor give you less distance to fall if you rolled out of bed in your sleep?

NAJL...
Need Another Jedi Lamp.:D

I used to roll out of bed until I started taking Viagra.:03::haha:

WernherVonTrapp

06-08-13, 02:58 PM

There's a lot of different types and sizes.
Your best bet would be to consult someone
at Lowe's or Home Depot.
http://st.houzz.com/fimgs/612137160090639c_9966-w265-h265-b1-p10--modern-brackets.jpghttp://businessfurnitureshop.com/images/workstationbrackets/Largeworkstationbrackets.jpghttp://www.federalbrace.com/FederalBrace/GalleryItems/images/Gusseted-Countertop-Brackets/Gusseted-Countertop-Brackets-1m.jpg
http://www.killarneymetals.com/CountertopBrackets/GalleryItems/Images/KitchenBracket5/KitchenBracket51lg.jpg

Wolferz

06-09-13, 10:00 AM

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 12:35 PM

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, or Wern is.

Frau is talking about a peninsula cabinet with countertop that extends out at a ninety degree angle from wall mounted cabinetry, are you not?

Yes, that's what it is.

If so, you would place the jack in the bottom of the cabinet, set a 2x4 cut to the right length between the jack and the underside of the counter. Slowly apply enough hydraulic pressure to raise the sag, then insert your support material in the gap. Remove jack and add it to your growing collection of tools.:up:

Sadly there is a shelf built into the back of the cabinet that extends the full length of the thing. It's only half as deep as the cabinet but I wouldn't be able to sit the jack on the cabinet bottom and apply pressure to the outer edge of the countertop, which is where i need it. The shelf is pretty thick and sturdy but already sagging in the middle too. I may replace it in the future but I wouldn't want to risk using it as a base for the jack and have it crack or even worse crack the cabinet frame that it's attached to.

I could wedge something into the gap from inside the cabinet, provided I can get in there to do it - they're pretty big cabinets so it's probably doable. At least then if I do have to wedge things directly into the gap to raise the countertop I wouldn't be risking the same damage to the outer, visible part of the cabinet on the other side. :hmmm:

WernherVonTrapp

06-09-13, 12:49 PM

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, or Wern is.

Frau is talking about a peninsula cabinet with countertop that extends out at a ninety degree angle from wall mounted cabinetry, are you not?:03:Yeah, that's what I thought you were talking about. I have the same thing in my kitchen. If I'm misunderstanding, maybe it's the overhang part. Are you saying that the countertop just need to be pushed back further untill it's flush against the cabinet in her picture?

I think you're spot-on with the 2 X 4 underneath the entire length of the countertop in order to keep it from cracking while lifting. I'd even suggest a 2 X 6, depending on the material integrity of the countertop.
Then again, it's always possible that I'm on another planet, as usual.:nope:

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 01:14 PM

Yeah, that's what I thought you were talking about. I have the same thing in my kitchen. If I'm misunderstanding, maybe it's the overhang part. Are you saying that the countertop just need to be pushed back further untill it's flush against the cabinet in her picture?

I think you're spot-on with the 2 X 4 underneath the entire length of the countertop in order to keep it from cracking while lifting. I'd even suggest a 2 X 6, depending on the material integrity of the countertop.

It doesn't need to be pushed back, it needs to be raised up.

One end of the counter:

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/9376/photo172d.jpg

As you can see, there is a "lip" or whatever on the underside of the edge of the countertop that sits on top of the cabinet frame. This causes the rest of the underside to sit slightly higher than the top of the cabinet. Same thing on the other end:

http://imageshack.us/a/img577/9144/photo173j.jpg

In the middle, however, the edge of the counter is not over the cabinet because the countertop is oversized to extend outward over the back of it, to provide a counter for someone to sit at if you get barstools or whatever and sit them under there.

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/2946/photo174dg.jpg

So there's nothing along the length of the underside of the countertop to hold it all up level with either end and it's sagging down into the gap between it and the cabinet. I want to raise it up to be level, or as level as possible, and then slide something in the gap to support it permanently.

WernherVonTrapp

06-09-13, 01:26 PM

It doesn't need to be pushed back, it needs to be raised up.

One end of the counter:

As you can see, there is a "lip" or whatever on the underside of the edge of the countertop that sits on top of the cabinet frame. This causes the rest of the underside to sit slightly higher than the top of the cabinet. Same thing on the other end:

In the middle, however, the edge of the counter is not over the cabinet because the countertop is oversized to extend outward over the back of it, to provide a counter for someone to sit at if you get barstools or whatever and sit them under there.

So there's nothing along the length of the underside of the countertop to hold it all up level with either end and it's sagging down into the gap between it and the cabinet. I want to raise it up to be level, or as level as possible, and then slide something in the gap to support it permanently.Ahh, yes, that'd be Pluto. Where I was at, that is. Hmmm. hmmm, (thinking which button I can push on the dashboard to get me back to earth). Ah, here it is (WoooooooSHHH!). OK, I'm back!:D

Well, after following Wolferz's advice on lifting it, you could use some pine shelving boards to fill in the gap. That doesn't look (in the photo) to be 2" deep, so maybe a 1" X 6" length of pine, glued and screwed into place.

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 01:37 PM

Ahh, yes, that'd be Pluto. Where I was at, that is. Hmmm. hmmm, (thinking which button I can push on the dashboard to get me back to earth). Ah, here it is (WoooooooSHHH!). OK, I'm back!:D

Well, after following Wolferz's advice on lifting it, you could use some pine shelving boards to fill in the gap. That doesn't look (in the photo) to be 2" deep, so maybe a 1" X 6" length of pine, glued and screwed into place.

Yeah but the real problem is how to raise the counter up in the middle so I can get anything in there. I can push/lift it up a bit but I can't hold it up while I put a permanent support in place. That's why the jack etc. was suggested. I was thinking just of some wedge type things that I could push into gap, starting near the end and then working my way towards the middle and raising it up little by little as I go. Once I got the middle part raised up enough I could slide something permanent in there to fill the gap.

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 01:42 PM

On a completely unrelated note, after perusing my patio I have to say I'm really disappointed in Ortho Roundup. Oh, it killed all the things I sprayed it on, but they were still THERE. I had to go around and pull them out by hand and that's TWICE I had to bend my aching back and/or knees for every single weed that I treated. :stare:

I dunno, I guess I was expecting something more along the lines of the wicked witch of the west's exit in The Wizard of Oz, like they'd get doused and then just disappear back down into the ground shrieking "I'm melting!" in shrill little weedy voices. :haha:

Sailor Steve

06-09-13, 02:54 PM

Yeah but the real problem is how to raise the counter up in the middle so I can get anything in there.
I would offer to help, but then I remembered I'm in Utah! :O:

u crank

06-09-13, 02:59 PM

Wolferz

06-09-13, 03:44 PM

Treat it like a noise in your car...

Turn up the radio.:03:
Or place something heavy on the raised end.:O:
Thanks U-crank. Finally someone totally familiar with cabinet construction.

Hopefully the Frau wouldn't stick a jack in there and just crank it till it broke.
She's brighter than that.:up::D

PS:
Your murdered weeds will eventually desiccate to the point of crumbling into dust.
If you don't wish to wait, get a crack hoe.

Those girls will do about anything for twenty bucks.

:shifty:

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 04:11 PM

From the photos FK your counter top is the standard post-formed type. Particle board substrate covered with laminate. It is probably attached to your cabinet with screws through those built up parts around the edges. This type of counter top is not really strong and any heavy jacking could break it or lift it off the cabs. If I was doing this fix I would remove the top, flip it over and put the desired piece in, glued and screwed, then put it back on.

But but but but my breadbox is already sitting on it. :O:

Also, that sounds like a two person or even three person job. Although if I loosened the screws at each end, that might give me enough slack across the entire counter to raise and hold up the middle long enough to get something in there to brace it. If nothing else it would make getting any shims in a lot easier. :hmmm:

Hopefully the Frau wouldn't stick a jack in there and just crank it till it broke.
She's brighter than that.:up::D

Oh, you'd be surprised. I've done some pretty stupid things over the years when it came to repairs around the ol' homestead.

But then that was before I had such wonderful online resources, and of course I didn't actually OWN the homestead at the time. :O:

Your murdered weeds will eventually desiccate to the point of crumbling into dust.
If you don't wish to wait, get a crack hoe.

A crack hoe? I don't want to pimp my patio, just get rid of the weeds. :haha:

But seriously, folks... it's a bricked surface, so I can't hoe anything. The weeds are coming up in the spaces between the bricks. No doubt it will be a perennial problem during growing season, so I may spring for the Ortho thingy with the hose and wand so I can douse them without too much bending and scraping. The first bottle I got ran out when I was only about halfway done with the whole area so I'll have to buy some more anyway.

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 04:14 PM

I would offer to help, but then I remembered I'm in Utah! :O:

You should come to visit! I've got several different half-empty rooms with floors you can sleep on. I'll even give you an empty box for a nightstand and I'm sure I can find a nice hunk of styrofoam for a pillow. :O:

Wolferz

06-09-13, 04:21 PM

But but but but my breadbox is already sitting on it. :O:

Also, that sounds like a two person or even three person job. Although if I loosened the screws at each end, that might give me enough slack across the entire counter to raise and hold up the middle long enough to get something in there to brace it. If nothing else it would make getting any shims in a lot easier. :hmmm:

Oh, you'd be surprised. I've done some pretty stupid things over the years when it came to repairs around the ol' homestead.

But then that was before I had such wonderful online resources, and of course I didn't actually OWN the homestead at the time. :O:

A crack hoe? I don't want to pimp my patio, just get rid of the weeds. :haha:

But seriously, folks... it's a bricked surface, so I can't hoe anything. The weeds are coming up in the spaces between the bricks. No doubt it will be a perennial problem during growing season, so I may spring for the Ortho thingy with the hose and wand so I can douse them without too much bending and scraping. The first bottle I got ran out when I was only about halfway done with the whole area so I'll have to buy some more anyway.

Get the crack hoe to pluck the weeds out, not service them ya silly.:har:

HW3

06-09-13, 04:59 PM

so I may spring for the Ortho thingy with the hose and wand so I can douse them without too much bending and scraping.

Get the extended control one, it will kill the present ones and is supposed to stop any more from showing up for about 4 months. Spray all the cracks and enjoy no more weeds for awhile.

:subsim:

WernherVonTrapp

06-09-13, 05:28 PM

Yeah but the real problem is how to raise the counter up in the middle so I can get anything in there. I can push/lift it up a bit but I can't hold it up while I put a permanent support in place. That's why the jack etc. was suggested. I was thinking just of some wedge type things that I could push into gap, starting near the end and then working my way towards the middle and raising it up little by little as I go. Once I got the middle part raised up enough I could slide something permanent in there to fill the gap.Well, IF you can get underneath the cabinet (via doors, any opening) without too much difficulty, you can get a piece or two of 1" X 6" pine shelving, cut to the proper length you need, and gently tap them into place with a mallot or hammer, sort of along the lines you see in the illustration below.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/wordpress_production/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Howto-Support-Sagging-Cabinet-shelves-JProvey6.jpg

Once you get the shims in place, get a piece of 5/8 plywood cut to a fitting length, and replace the pine shelving with the plywood, or just add additional pine shelf pieces until you have an inner wall within the cabinet wall. If you use the right glue and a few strategically placed screws, you'll never have to worry about it again. If you're talking fractions of an inch, this might be the answer.

Sailor Steve

06-09-13, 07:09 PM

You should come to visit! I've got several different half-empty rooms with floors you can sleep on. I'll even give you an empty box for a nightstand and I'm sure I can find a nice hunk of styrofoam for a pillow. :O:
The five scariest words you'll ever hear from me: I can be there tomorrow.

I even have a car now, and a nice air mattress and my own pillow. The only problem is that I don't have a laptop, and I know you won't share your computer, so the deal is off.

On the other hand, after saying all that maybe it's time for me to load up the car and move somewhere else, like Antarctica. :dead:

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 08:03 PM

On the other hand, after saying all that maybe it's time for me to load up the car and move somewhere else, like Antarctica. :dead:

That'll be a long, cold drive. And a really wet one in some spots. :O:

frau kaleun

06-09-13, 08:10 PM

Well, IF you can get underneath the cabinet (via doors, any opening) without too much difficulty, you can get a piece or two of 1" X 6" pine shelving, cut to the proper length you need, and gently tap them into place with a mallot or hammer, sort of along the lines you see in the illustration below.

Once you get the shims in place, get a piece of 5/8 plywood cut to a fitting length, and replace the pine shelving with the plywood, or just add additional pine shelf pieces until you have an inner wall within the cabinet wall. If you use the right glue and a few strategically placed screws, you'll never have to worry about it again. If you're talking fractions of an inch, this might be the answer.

This isn't doable since there is a shelf along the back wall of the cabinet. It's already sagging in the middle also due to having no center support, and I will probably have to remove it or else figure out a way to prop it up at some point in the future. I can't put anything between the inside bottom of the cabinet back and the countertop because the shelf is in the way, and I can't use the shelf to brace the countertop for the reasons noted above.

Wolferz

06-10-13, 05:57 AM

Off To the glue factory with it then.:hmmm: Just like a sway back horse.:03:

If the whole thing is sagging in the middle, maybe a professional cabinet company would be your best bet to effect the repair. <shrug>

Just like an engineer, I don't see the glass as half full or half empty. I see the container as being twice the volume required to hold the liquid.

frau kaleun

06-10-13, 09:37 PM

magic452

06-11-13, 06:37 AM

The only things tax deductible are your interest payments and property taxes.
Repairs etc. are only deductible if you have a qualified home office for you work or business.

Do save receipts for any big expenses or repairs as they can be deducted from the profits when you sell the home (adjusted cost basis)

Magic

WernherVonTrapp

06-11-13, 07:10 AM

Okay, here's a different sort of question: so far my expenses have been mostly for decor and things I wanted to add, like cable service, etc. But eventually - like with the leaky faucet, or the saggy cabinet - I'm gonna start spending money on repairs to the actual structure or bits of it or on things that might be considered "improving the value of the property."

Some of the stuff that comes up in the first year may be covered by the home warranty, but sooner or later I will be paying for something.

What kinds of things are tax deductible, if that's a possibility? Should I be saving receipts of any and all expenses for tax purposes, or for some other reason beyond filing claims with the home warranty insurance if that's an option for some things?
As magic has stated, tax deductions of that sort are for businesses, not residences.
If your home purchase came with a Warranty, check to see what types of repairs are covered. If you're talking Homeowner's Insurance, be careful what types and how many claims you file with them. In some states, using too many (depending on what the insurance companies consider) "frivolous" claims can result in the Homeowner's Insurance Company dropping you.
Also, check to see if specific repairs require a town or borough permit. I had an emergency replacement of a Hot Water Heater after my old one burst and leaked onto my basement floor. When it came time to sell my home, not only did I have to purchase the license for the work done 2 years earlier, the building code inspector took it personally and developed an attitude toward me. He began nit-picking on everything. Ended up costing me a small fortune before he cleared my home for the closing.
I would definitely consult your local building code official for any big repairs or replacements.

Like Wolferz said earlier, the countertop probably needs a professional installer. It might save you more money than having to have an improperly repaired countertop reinstalled in the future.

frau kaleun

06-12-13, 09:34 PM

Well I put everything else on hold this week so far so I could focus on ONE task... seems like every time I turn around I'm finding something else that needs doing and I end up doing a small percentage of one job then another then another and at the end of several hours I haven't got a single one of them finished.

So after days of stepping over and around the two crates of files and all the papers I hadn't filed because I was waiting to get what was already filed sorted and actually IN the filing cabinet... I bit the bullet and just DID it. Took the better part of three evenings after work but LOOK!

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2721/filingdoneatlast.jpg

:woot:

The only things not filed are new mail, stuff that still pending that I need to review, and a couple manuals for items I know I won't be keeping. And now when I need the manual for something I'm actually using, or any recent records or documents or statements or bills, I know exactly where they are. And exactly where the new stuff goes when I'm done with it! Woohoo!

It's only a very small corner of this place but at least SOMETHING is in good order and can stay that way for the foreseeable future. :yeah:

Also got some new curtains and the lamps I wanted for the bedroom, by the end of the weekend I hope to have those up in there and maybe I'll even get the shades I bought LAST week up in the office to block the searing late afternoon sun so I can sit at my desk during that part of the day without risking permanent blindness. :O:

Sorry no exciting fixit adventures lately, I'm still pondering what to do about that kitchen cabinet and of course I'll need to take care of the leaky patio spigot soon. I did buy a bigass jug of Roundup with the hose and wand attachment and probably should get the rest of the patio treated as well. Some of the bigger weeds will probably be knee high by this time next week if I don't deal with them.

Also I found out my little municipality has a weekly farmers' market on Thursdays from 3-7 PM in the summer, starting this month. It's just up the road from me and I may mosey on up there tomorrow after work to see if it's something that's worth checking out every week for fresh local produce. That can only lead to one thing: cooking... so you might want to stay tuned for the exciting episode where the smoke detectors go off and/or the local fire department shows up. :O:

Sailor Steve

06-12-13, 09:55 PM

Awright! :rock:

It's only a very small corner of this place but at least SOMETHING is in good order and can stay that way for the foreseeable future. :yeah:
Even one thing finished is one thing you don't have to worry about anymore.

Sorry no exciting fixit adventures lately
It's good to know progress was made. Any new part of the saga is exciting. :sunny:

Also I found out my little municipality has a weekly farmers' market on Thursdays from 3-7 PM in the summer, starting this month.
That's a good thing. There is a farmer's market in downtown Salt Lake every Saturday morning in the summertime. I've only visited a couple of times, since I have uneducated taste buds that can't tell the difference between fresh and supermarket.

you might want to stay tuned for the exciting episode where the smoke detectors go off and/or the local fire department shows up. :O:
Been there, done that. Well, not the fire guys having to put me out, but I have a smoke detector designed to go off any time I cook anything. :dead:

Onkel Neal

06-12-13, 10:19 PM

Hah, I have two filing cabinets...slowly accumulating material and papers. I guess someday I will have to go through them and throw out old stuff... someday. :03:

Red October1984

06-12-13, 10:42 PM

Hah, I have two filing cabinets...slowly accumulating material and papers. I guess someday I will have to go through them and throw out old stuff... someday. :03:

Filing cabinets? Ha!

I have organized stacks. :O:

Sailor Steve

06-12-13, 11:11 PM

Filing cabinets? Ha!

I have organized stacks. :O:
This is known in certain circles as the "Vertical Filing System". Not only does it make it difficult to retrieve certain files, i.e. those on the bottom, it is all too easy for the vertical filing system to transform itself into the "Horizontal Paper Random Distribution System". This makes it even harder to retrieve certain files, i.e. all of them, but it has a tendency to raise blood pressure and adult language levels.

Trust me. I have vast years of experience with these two systems.

Wolferz

06-13-13, 06:17 AM

I prefer the round file system.:D

frau kaleun

06-13-13, 10:54 AM

The round file is a very important part of my system, when the cabinet gets so full it can't hold any more then I know it's time to go through and weed out the old stuff, the stuff that applies to things I no longer do or own, and the stuff that I probably didn't need to save and file away in the first place but did so anyway just in case. Those items will then get transferred to the round file in my office and eventually to the bigger round file out in the garage and finally to the giant Mt. Rumpke file somewhere on the outskirts of town. :O:

AVGWarhawk

06-13-13, 10:58 AM

My round file shreds. :D

Sailor Steve

06-13-13, 11:16 AM

My round file shreds. :D
Show-off. My round file isn't even round. :cry:

frau kaleun

06-13-13, 12:34 PM

My round file shreds. :D

I go back and forth on getting a shredder for home. It would be incredibly handy, but we have nothing but trouble with the ones we have at work. They quit shredding and say they're full when they're nowhere near it, so you have to keep pulling the bin out and putting it back in to "convince" it that it's not full yet. They stop working saying they're jammed even though they're visibly clear of any paper and we keep running the lubricating sheets through them. The one in my own office is supposed to stop shredding automatically after it's finished with something but doesn't which creates a safety hazard so it can't be left on and ready to go whenever it's needed. At some point it just becomes quicker and easier to manually tear something up into little tiny pieces than to spend five minutes fighting with the machines. :O:

OTOH some people have told me that the much smaller home office shredders never give them any trouble, so I dunno. :hmmm:

AVGWarhawk

06-13-13, 12:48 PM

OTOH some people have told me that the much smaller home office shredders never give them any trouble, so I dunno. :hmmm:

:yep: I have the 7 page shredder at home. Works great. Not all my paperwork hits the shredder. Just paperwork that display personal info or account numbers, etc. Mine has a credit card shredder as well. I feed my wife's cards to it. :haha: Anyway, mail such as credit card offers get shredded, items of that nature. I don't want someone getting a hold of it and sending in for a credit card on my tab.

Wolferz

06-13-13, 02:07 PM

Hire a shredder.:03::haha:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/character-shredder.png
Tell it to The Hand.

frau kaleun

06-13-13, 08:49 PM

Went to check out the weekly farmers' market and it was pretty good. Had $30 cash in my pocket when I arrived and spent almost all of it. :haha:

Got a loaf of fresh home-baked bread from an Amish family selling their baked goods. Had a bit of it while I was slicing it up and it was very good.

Also got 4 each nice big red and yellow tomatoes, some green onions, some fresh basil - mama mia that smells a-good! - and some garlic. And a pint of strawberries... every time the wind blew you could smell them all the way down the rows of vendors, there was no way you couldn't buy some if you like 'em as much as I do. A couple zucchini, and a pound of half-runner beans.

Just need to pick up some good mushrooms and mozzarella cheese and a few black olives and I'll have everything I need to make some pasta salad and also a pasta-zucchini-tomato dish I like for dinner. I need to go to Jungle Jim's (http://www.junglejims.com/) to pick up a b-day present for the bro-in-law, and I should be able to find the last couple of things there. I don't know what I'm gonna do with the half-runners, well cook them obviously but I know Mom always put pork fat or bacon grease or something in them and I don't have anything like that on hand to make them taste "right." Nevertheless I couldn't pass up home-grown half-runners.

On a related note I had a nice chat with one of the vendors there, he had the best selection out of anyone - and he said they had a farm market at their farm that's open six days a week and have even more stuff there that they can't take out to the local community markets. Fruits and veggies and herbs of all kinds plus farm fresh eggs and cheese and bacon and that right there was where my brain stopped listening because OMG FRESH BACON. :rock:

He gave me his card and their place is only a couple exits down the highway from here, 10-15 minutes at most at times when the traffic isn't workday rush hour heavy. I might have to check it out some weekend.

Now all I need to do - aside from picking up the few things I didn't find at the market - is root through boxes until I find a pan to cook pasta in and colander to drain it. :haha:

Sailor Steve

06-13-13, 09:04 PM

frau kaleun

06-13-13, 09:23 PM

Sounds like a well-spent trip. 'Jungle Jim's' - you have places there I've never even heard of. On the other hand I don't do a lot of preparing or a lot of variety. I just have a few things I like and I make those most of the time.

Oh, I do the same thing. But a couple of my favorite things to make over the past few years both feature tomatoes, basil, zucchini, garlic, olive oil, pasta... come to think of it, a LOT of my favorite foods feature those same things in various combinations. :haha:

And you probably haven't heard of Jungle Jim's (aside from me talking about it) because it's a local place unique to our area. The owner literally started out selling fresh produce off the back of a truck on the side of the road and built that into a multi-million dollar business. For a long time there was only one store, but last year they opened a new one a couple hours southeast of here. Last I heard (when my sister still worked at the original store) the new place wasn't doing so well so it may not stay open. Without an inside connection there I don't get the lowdown on that kind of thing any more.

WernherVonTrapp

06-14-13, 04:07 AM

And you probably haven't heard of Jungle Jim's (aside from me talking about it) because it's a local place unique to our area. The owner literally started out selling fresh produce off the back of a truck on the side of the road and built that into a multi-million dollar business. For a long time there was only one store, but last year they opened a new one a couple hours southeast of here. Last I heard (when my sister still worked at the original store) the new place wasn't doing so well so it may not stay open. Without an inside connection there I don't get the lowdown on that kind of thing any more.They have a website, you know.
http://www.junglejims.com/

Wolferz

06-14-13, 07:23 AM

Kings Island!!!:D

Sailor Steve

06-14-13, 09:21 AM

They have a website, you know.
Her mention of them in her post actually contained that link, you know?

frau kaleun

06-14-13, 09:43 AM

They have a website, you know.
http://www.junglejims.com/

I know, I linked to it in post #825. :O:

Kings Island!!!:D

Oh man I haven't been there in ages. A friend and I always used to say "this summer we should go to Kings Island" but of course we never get around to it. I have such fun memories of going there when I was younger, I'm almost a little afraid that I'll go back now and it will seem a bit shabby and not as magical as I remember.

HW3

06-14-13, 10:00 AM

Kings Island!!!:D

It has been ages since I was there, back when I lived in Indiana. I remember the headliner for the concert they had that day was Conway Twitty. He put on a good show too.:yep:

:subsim:

Wolferz

06-14-13, 10:56 AM

I've been to the island twice and it was there that my son rode his first roller coaster. It took some coaxing to get him on The Red & Blue Racer and a little white lie as he was watching the thing operate from the que.:cool: Look, Son, it just goes over and back again piece of cake." I put us in the front car and he thought it was all really cool, until, we reached the summit and rolled over the top.:huh: He screamed like a little girl as he was clutching my arm in a death grip.:wah: Once it was over, it was time to go assault the Beast.:o He was all for it.:D

AVGWarhawk

06-14-13, 11:42 AM

a bit shabby and not as magical

We get the same way with age. :haha:

WernherVonTrapp

06-14-13, 11:52 AM

I know, I linked to it in post #825. :O:

http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b456/archangel501/Smileys/c5c3eae6.gifOhhhh, post 825, hmmmm. Oh! OK, yeah I remember now. I missed that because I was sick that day.
http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b456/archangel501/Smileys/cfee3c67.gif

Wolferz

06-14-13, 12:09 PM

We get the same way with age. :haha:

Speak for yourself.:stare:
We indeed!:03:

AVGWarhawk

06-14-13, 01:35 PM

Speak for yourself.:stare:
We indeed!:03:

Some get crusty. :O:

Sailor Steve

06-14-13, 05:15 PM

I've been to the island twice and it was there that my son rode his first roller coaster.
I had a similar experience with my older daughter. When she was eight we took her to a local amusement park called Lagoon. They have an old-fashioned wooden coaster and we went for a ride. You have to understand that she was a silent cryer at that age. She watched Doctor Who with me and would sit there not making a sound when she was scared, but tears rolling down her cheeks. I told her she didn't have to watch it, but she wanted to be with me so I would change the channel and watch something more her style.

Anyway, after she rode the coaster she didn't cry at all. She was shaking like a leaf as she said "Wow! That was REALLY scary!" That reaction told me she liked it.

frau kaleun

06-14-13, 08:07 PM

Whew! I think I have finally located every piece of cookware and kitchenware I need to fix the things for which I've bought all the fresh ingredients. And I only had to go through six boxes to do it. :smug:

Just one box left and the colanders, the last missing necessity, are right on top. So I'm taking a break. Oh, I still have to get all of it CLEAN... but the dishwasher will take care of that. Just need to pick out exactly which items are absolutely crucial and get them loaded in. The rest can wait for a later load.

Sadly I'm already so hungry right now (SHUT UP BELLY) that even if I got it all clean and sorted tonight, waiting until then and THEN waiting until I got something made will be way too long to wait for dinner. So it looks I'll be firing up Mr. Microwave once again. :haha:

Decided to cook up the green beans with some bacon and onions and bake a skillet of cornbread on the side. Maybe tomorrow or for Sunday dinner depending on how it goes with the pasta salad, which will be easiest to knock out and thus first on the list. Never tried either (beans or cornbread) that way before so here's hoping it all comes out edible. I almost wished I hadn't looked up the recipe for the beans, because the author ended it with the phrase "you're gonna want some cornbread to go with that" and of course I immediately did. :O:

Sailor Steve

06-14-13, 08:10 PM

Frau K: "Shut up, belly!"

Belly: "No! You shut up! Better yet, feed me!"

Guess who wins?

frau kaleun

06-14-13, 08:53 PM

Frau K: "Shut up, belly!"

Belly: "No! You shut up! Better yet, feed me!"

Guess who wins?

Mmmmph umph mmmph.... sorry, Mom always said I shouldn't type with my mouth full.

Wolferz

06-14-13, 09:07 PM

Now you've made me hungry too.:hmmm: What to have? I can't get any decent cornbread mix this far north of the Mason-Dixon line. So that's out. White beans cooked up with some slab bacon for taste and served with fresh cut onions and cornbread would be great though.:wah:

Only one problem with that recipe....
Toooot! Excuse me.:oops:

frau kaleun

06-14-13, 09:13 PM

Now you've made me hungry too.:hmmm: What to have? I can't get any decent cornbread mix this far north of the Mason-Dixon line. So that's out.

You do realize you can just buy cornmeal and make it without a mix, right? :O:

Wolferz

06-14-13, 09:22 PM

You do realize you can just buy cornmeal and make it without a mix, right? :O:
Not around hyere.

frau kaleun

06-14-13, 09:46 PM

Not around hyere.

That's what I'm doing. It's pretty basic - if you've got flour, eggs, milk or buttermilk, sugar and salt & pepper around, pretty much all you need to get is the cornmeal and baking powder. Oh and some bacon to fry to grease up the skillet. And you need a recipe. The one I'm using includes a recipe for homemade cornmeal mix that you can whip up and keep on hand for future batches. :yep:

Wolferz

06-15-13, 08:39 AM

That's what I'm doing. It's pretty basic - if you've got flour, eggs, milk or buttermilk, sugar and salt & pepper around, pretty much all you need to get is the cornmeal and baking powder. Oh and some bacon to fry to grease up the skillet. And you need a recipe. The one I'm using includes a recipe for homemade cornmeal mix that you can whip up and keep on hand for future batches. :yep:

What'cha waiting for? PM that hush puppy. Pretty Please with a cherry on top.:salute:

I grew up on foods fried in bacon grease in iron skillets. Yes I did buy the wife a set of iron skillets. She didn't have a single iron skillet when I arrived. (brave or stupid?) We don' need no steenking Teflon!
That's the problem with store bought mixes up here. They like sweet cornbread. YUCK! My son got his hands on all of my moms' recipes and he guards them like they're made of gold. The whipper snapper!:stare:

frau kaleun

06-15-13, 09:30 AM

What'cha waiting for? PM that hush puppy. Pretty Please with a cherry on top.:salute:

This is the recipe I'm gonna try:

http://chickensintheroad.com/cooking/my-cornbread/

She gives the one for the do-it-yourself cornbread mix at the end.

I'm with you, I grew up eating what I guess is the "southern" style cornbread - baked in a cast iron skillet or mold. I do like the sweeter kind, particularly for corn muffins - but when I think of big slices of cornbread from a pan I think of what I grew up with. And of course most store-bought mixes (at least around her) are for the sweeter kind.

Recipe for green beans came from the same place:

http://chickensintheroad.com/cooking/country-style-green-beans/

I grew up on foods fried in bacon grease in iron skillets. Yes I did buy the wife a set of iron skillets. She didn't have a single iron skillet when I arrived. (brave or stupid?) We don' need no steenking Teflon!

Don't knock the nonstick pans, they definitely have their uses... and they've come a long way since the first Teflon pans. But there are some things for which only cast iron will do. :yep:

My son got his hands on all of my moms' recipes and he guards them like they're made of gold. The whipper snapper!:stare:

My mom had a kitchen drawer that was jammed full of a few old cookbooks and about a million little slips of paper with recipes scrawled on them. At some point many years ago when I still lived at home and got bored one day I went through the drawer and copied down every recipe I found that I knew was something she made on a regular basis, or that I really liked, or that was a family tradition or whatever. I may have her cornbread recipe filed away somewhere but trying to root it out now would take forever, lol.

OTOH for all I know it was one of the many things she didn't use or need a recipe for because she'd done it so many times for so long that the whole process was thoroughly etched in her brain. A lot of the written recipes I did find were little more than a list of ingredients with no clear measurements and maybe a couple vague directions - because that's all she needed to jog her memory when she made something.

I *still* don't know how she made her meatloaf, which I loved, and I've never found a recipe anywhere that was even close to how she made it (hint: there was no ketchup involved). Her meatloaf was just a loaf of ground meat baked in a large round... I guess it was a pie plate, lol. But it was a round, shallow, metal oven pan. Not a loaf pan. There was no sauce or anything goopy slathered on top of it but it was always moist so I presume she basted it with the drippings in the pan. After it was done she'd take the pan out of the oven, put the meatloaf on a platter, and then make the most delicious gravy from what was left in the pan. We'd have plain white rice as a side and put the gravy over that and the meatloaf. IT WAS AWESOME.

Sailor Steve

06-15-13, 10:07 AM

Wolferz

06-15-13, 10:41 AM

mmm mmm Southern style cookin.

My mom was a central Kentucky farm girl and boy could she cook! She too didn't really use recipes. Always measured from memory or just by eye. Timed everything using Jedi powers or something. I'm a perfectionist and always time my cooking to the second. Something she made fun of me for. :haha:

She had a mantra when it came to cooking. Be careful with your ingredient amounts because "You can always add but you can't take away":yep:

If anyone wants to know the secret to good down home cooking, it's bacon grease. I know I know, you're worried about the health risk. Pfffttt!
My dear old paternal grandmother made bacon, eggs and fresh shortening biscuits every morning of her adult life. All of her recipes used bacon grease as the cooking lubricant of choice. She lived to the ripe old age of 93. If you want to live longer than that, well, you're just being selfish.:hmmm: Besides, I'm almost to the six decade mark and food isn't really a passion anymore after having about everything there is over and over and over again. Although, some of my mommas' scrambled eggs, sausage, white milk gravy and biscuits would really hit the spot at the moment. :smug:

Funny story: I was out on a two day trip into central and western Kentucky for work. I stayed in a motel in Central City (The area where me mum was from) before heading west and I popped into a little diner the next morning for breakfast. I had sausage and eggs with white milk gravy and biscuits. The meal was so much like my moms' that I asked the waitress if my mom was back in the kitchen cooking. She giggled and said "No, it's my momma.":haha:
I left her a good tip and a Yankee dime before departing.:D

PS:
I thank you kindly for the link.:up: I owe you a Yankee dime.:03:

frau kaleun

06-15-13, 10:42 AM

My mom lived by the frying pan. I'm not sure if she ever baked anything. I know nothing about her cornbread other than that she baked it (I just contradicted myself, didn't I?) in one of those pans with individual molds that looked like an ear of corn. It was a steel pan, not cast iron, but I always loved it. I've always loved to dip cornbread in chili, but I've been too lazy to actually cook anything for real, so I've never learned how to make it myself.

Oh yes, the cornbread mold. We either had it like that or a big round cake from the skillet, cut in wedges like pie.

Note to self: buy one of those cornbread molds. :O:

If you like to dip it in chili you probably prefer the less sweet, more savory style as well.

Sailor Steve

06-15-13, 10:54 AM

Recipe for green beans came from the same place:
That opened my eyes to something. I get free canned stuff, don't have the space to grow anything and never think to shop for fresh. I have several cans of green beans and peas, and I never open them. I think that link told my why. I never had to be told to eat my veggies. My mom was from Texas and, as said previously, knew how to cook, especially with a pan. I think now I don't like eating veggies because I don't know how to cook them. Bacon and onions? Who knew? I'm betting even the canned stuff I have stored would benefit from a little of that. Now I get to try it.

I say I never cook, but I once had a roommate who did. He made everything by guess and by golly, and he never failed to make something worth the effort of showing up. I was talking about chili one day, and he told me I was going to make some and I was going to make it right. So we gathered the bags of several kinds of beans he had lying around, got several pounds of ground beef, tomatoes and other stuff, and the right spices for chili. That pot lasted us all week, and it was certainly the best chili I ever made. I haven't done anything like it since, mainly because I live alone and am too lazy to spend all day cooking. Now I'm wondering...

Wolferz

06-15-13, 11:16 AM

Sorry, Steve. You won't catch me making Chili Con Carne. It's no beans all the way for authentic chili. The hotter the better. With skillet fried cornbread to boot.:rock:

frau kaleun

06-15-13, 12:10 PM

That opened my eyes to something. I get free canned stuff, don't have the space to grow anything and never think to shop for fresh. I have several cans of green beans and peas, and I never open them. I think that link told my why. I never had to be told to eat my veggies. My mom was from Texas and, as said previously, knew how to cook, especially with a pan. I think now I don't like eating veggies because I don't know how to cook them. Bacon and onions? Who knew? I'm betting even the canned stuff I have stored would benefit from a little of that. Now I get to try it.

You don't even need to put the bacon and onions in the pot. My mom never did, but she DID put bacon grease in with the beans. I'm only putting in the bacon because I had to buy it anyway to fry it to get the grease. And the onion because why not? It sounds good. But if you like the onion flavor you could just toss a little onion powder in the pot, or buy a can of those french fried onions and sprinkle some on top when you dish the beans out.

If you have canned beans naturally you're not going to have to cook them down but toss them in the pot and make sure there's enough liquid to cover (either from the can, or add water as needed) and then put your bacon grease in there and then put it on the burner until it's all heated through and the grease is completely liquified and distributed throughout.

Heck, for all I know they now sell bacon flavored Crisco or some such that can be used for the flavor element and you don't even need to buy the bacon and fry it.

I always wondered why beans and greens like spinach in other places never tasted as good as what we got at home... then one day my sister said, "duh, mom put bacon grease in all that stuff." :haha:

I haven't done anything like it since, mainly because I live alone and am too lazy to spend all day cooking. Now I'm wondering...

If you have room for it, you might want to think about getting a slow cooker (aka a crock pot). You can do pot roast, chili, soups and stews, and all manner of things in one of those. The only time investmest is for prepping the ingredients and once they're in the pot you turn it on and it cooks for several hours and the whole point is that you DON'T mess with it until it's done, and when it is all you do is take out your food and eat it and put the leftovers away for later.

I make pot roast in mine all the time, I prep everything the day before and put it in the pot and stick that in the fridge overnight. The next morning it goes in the cooker on low and it takes 9-10 hours so by the time I get home from work and am ready to eat it's done. It's maybe an hour at most getting the taters and carrots ready and browning the roast, and if I didn't insist on browning the roast (which isn't necessary) it wouldn't even be that much -just whatever it takes to dice up the potatoes and peel and chop the carrots.

Sailor Steve

06-15-13, 12:18 PM

Sorry, Steve. You won't catch me making Chili Con Carne. It's no beans all the way for authentic chili. The hotter the better. With skillet fried cornbread to boot.:rock:
Sorry yourself. Chili by nature has no meat. "Chili con carne" means "chili with meat", as in extra. I always use meat, but the correct beans are essential.

Sailor Steve

06-15-13, 12:21 PM

If you have room for it, you might want to think about getting a slow cooker (aka a crock pot). You can do pot roast, chili, soups and stews, and all manner of things in one of those.
D'OH! :damn: Years ago I bought a little mini Crock-Pot for 1. I've never even taken it out of the box!

frau kaleun

06-15-13, 12:55 PM

D'OH! :damn: Years ago I bought a little mini Crock-Pot for 1. I've never even taken it out of the box!

Google for recipes, or there may even be a couple included in the box. There are a million slow cooker recipes out there, there are whole cookbooks devoted just to slow cooker dishes. My pot roast recipe came off the back of a Liption Onion Soup Mix box. :haha: And I've got another one I want to try that is on the back of a bottle of A1 Steak Sauce. I don't know about recipes for mini crockpots but they're probably out there too.

If you experiment with it and like it, you can always get a bigger one. I got mine off Amazon and I don't think I paid more than $30 for it. Then you can buy ingredients in larger quantities (usually cheaper), make more and have leftovers which means you are cooking less often but still have homemade meals on hand. :yeah:

Wolferz

06-15-13, 01:38 PM

Onkel Neal

06-16-13, 06:16 AM

I stand corrected, Steve but,

from Wikipedia... main ingredients for chili are...

Chili peppers
Meat
Tomatoes
Often made with beans
Beans are apparently not a main ingredient for the dish as far as I can tell.
Maybe someone thought they could extend the yield on a batch by adding beans. Therefore, calling it Chili Con Carne (with meat) as the translation goes, is redundant. You can't make a pot of Chili without ground beef. Beans are optional.:D Red beans and Kidney beans are a total deal breaker for me. I like mine plain and hot.
Since the dish originated in Texas, let's ask Neal.:)

Hey Neal.. What's in "genuine" Texas Chili?

Inquiring taste buds wanna know.:know:

Not beans, that's for sure :O:

My favorite chili is:
1 pound of course ground 80/20 beef hamburger
1 pound cubed stew meat
1/2 cup Mexene chili powder
1 8 oz can of tomato sauce
16~18 oz of water, preferably from the artesian zone of the Edwards Aquifer
1 TBSP finely chopped onion or dried onion
1 TBSP garlic powder, dried and minced
1-1/2 TSP cumin
1 TSP oregano
3/4 TBSP paprika
1-3/4 TSP salt
1/2 to 1-1/2 TSP cayenne red pepper (vary according to amount of heat desired, a little goes a long way).

Wolferz

06-16-13, 08:37 AM

Now that's chili. Thanks Neal :up:

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 09:36 AM

from Wikipedia... main ingredients for chili are...

Chili peppers
Meat
Tomatoes
Often made with beans

Which Wiki article is that from? Their main article is just a link to other articles. If it's from the 'Chili con Carne' article then there's your answer.

Neal, that sounds like a great recipe. My only question is, if that's chili, then what's "chili con carne"? Conversely, if that's chili con carne, then what is contained in chili not con carne?

What I really don't get is what you guys have against beans? There are some great beans out there.

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 09:39 AM

Google for recipes, or there may even be a couple included in the box.
I will, thanks. Of course now that I have a refrigerator all to myself there's no reason not to get a bigger one and store or even freeze stuff. Pot roast sounds good, certainly better than canned beef stew. I suddenly feel the need to learn some of this stuff.

But today is pizza day, so I need to get started on that. :sunny:

Onkel Neal

06-16-13, 09:47 AM

Beans are great, and chili with beans ain't bad. But that's what it is: chili... with beans. ;)

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 09:49 AM

So why is there specifically a "chili con carne" but no "chili con frijoles"? :O:

frau kaleun

06-16-13, 09:51 AM

It's window shade time! Well, it was yesterday anyway. :O:

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/8089/ami6.jpg

First gotta get the handles attached. For Steve: these little jobbies, placed in the center of the bottom rail, are what you use to raise and lower the cordless shade. You pull them up, shade goes up. You pull them down, shade comes down. It stays where you put it. How does it do that? I don't know so the answer must be: MAGIC!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/2926/v8he.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/8640/xnpb.jpg

Now it's drillin' time.

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/4675/r3pd.jpg

Just gotta get the brackets in place...

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/1539/3qxe.jpg

Aaaaand one shade is up!

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/777/p969.jpg

Repeat the process for the other window, and no more blinding sun coming in at eye level in the afternoon. Or ever, for that matter. :D

http://imageshack.us/a/img594/9938/gsib.jpg

And somewhere in there my brother-in-law called and I found out that our niece from Arizona was at their house, she had emailed that she might be in KY visiting relatives on the other side of her family and might drive up, so she surprised them for his birthday next week by coming up yesterday. She also surprised us by telling us she's actually moved to KY for work and is now living there, which means we'll all get to see each other a lot more often than every ten years or so. :)

So the rest of my prospective projects got put on hold since it was decided that my BiL's birthday dinner would be later that night while she was here. Since I was gonna make some pasta salad anyway I just took it over there, but it still counts as the first homemade food prepared in my new kitchen!

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/76/ebc.jpg

Didn't take long to make, but the clean up afterwards was a real... OH WAIT NO IT WASN'T I HAVE A DISHWASHER. :haha: :rock:

And then I went over there for the rest of the evening and got home late which is why nothing much else got done yesterday. :O:

Once I'm thoroughly awake today I think I'll take out the new sheers I bought for the bedroom and put them up and see how they look. Or I might sit here watching Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares reruns all morning. It's kind of a tossup at this point. :O:

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 10:18 AM

Lookin' good! :rock: Having a dark room to play and work in is important. :yep:

And a house is not a home until you've cooked something in it. I know I heard that somewhere.

...new sheers...
And there you did it to me again. I thought "Oh, cool, she's gonna cut something!" But then I thought "Wait...what?" Then I kind of figured it out. Then I remembered that "sheers" aren't the same as "shears". Then I thought "If I don't mention it, no one will ever know." But then I thought "Where's the fun in that?"

Oh, and the pasta salad looks yummy!

Wolferz

06-16-13, 10:47 AM

I can think of many fun things to do in a darkened room, Frau.:03:
Like turn on the lights.:D

Sorry, Steve. I don't care for beans that much. I have consistency issues with all lentils except the white beans and those require copious amounts of cornbread and raw onions mixed in with them. I was always a finicky eater. A fact that drove my dear sweet mother into fits of despair trying to feed me.

As I got older, there was more than one occasion where I sat down and ate something that would normally turn my nose up and her jaw dropped .
I still remember the first time I tried an Olive. Something my dad always enjoyed with hamburgers. I spit it out poste haste. Then pop made the mistake of trying to make me eat it, ignoring mom's warnings the whole time.
Yes, I hurled into my plate. My brother followed suit almost immediately along with choice words from mom directed at dad. He never made that mistake again.:O: It's a wonder I didn't starve to death as a child.

frau kaleun

06-16-13, 10:51 AM

Pot roast sounds good, certainly better than canned beef stew.

My recipe, stolen and revised from the back of a Lipton Soup Mix box:

3-4 bunches fresh whole carrots (the kind sold with the greens still on top)
2-3 lbs red or baby red potatoes
1 Tbsp oil
2-3 lb chuck eye roast
1 box (2 envelopes) Lipton Recipe Secrets Onion Soup & Dip Mix
3/4 C water

The amount of carrots & taters you use is gonna vary depending on size of your pot and the size of your roast, and depending on how much of either you want. I usually buy more than I think I'll need and whatever I have left over I use for other things.

Of course you can just buy the carrots in the 1 lb or more sized bags and use those, but I don't recommend the "baby" carrots that come in the little bags. They look like they'd be convenient, just open the bag and dump them in the pot - but in my experience they don't turn out well after hours and hours in a slow cooker.

If you don't want red potatoes just make sure you use some other low starch variety as they will hold their shape throughout the cooking process and not end up all mushy. White round, new, and fingerling potatoes should work fine. In a pinch you can use a medium starch all purpose tater like Yukon Gold but stay away from russets or anything sold as a "baking" potato as these won't hold up well.

Cut greens off the carrots if needed, peel them and cut them into chunks.

Dice up the taters. You can peel them if desired but I leave the peel on mine.

Try to get your chunks of taters and carrots in a roughly uniform size for even cooking. Load them in the bottom of the slow cooker pot; I just keep adding, first one then the other, as I'm prepping them until I've got about the same amount of both AND the pot has just enough room left on top for the roast. (The recipe on the back of the soup mix box skimps on both... but I really like a lot of carrots and taters with my roast).

When you're done with those, put the cover on the pot and set to one side.

In a large skillet, heat the oil and brown the roast. This you do by laying it down in the pan and NOT TOUCHING IT while it browns on one side. I also will salt and pepper and rub some oil on each side of the roast first.

For a 2-3 lb roast, usually 4-5 minutes a side is what I shoot for. You're trying to get a nice sear on each side for extra flavor. So lay it down on one side, put your splatter shield over it if you've got one, and just let it alone for 4-5 minutes. Then turn it over and repeat on the other side. When that's done, get the cover off that pot and transfer the roast carefully from the skillet to the pot - just plop it down right on top of the carrots and taters.

The browning process is NOT mandatory, you can also just put the roast straight from the package into the slow cooker.

Combine the two packets of soup mix with the 3/4 C water and blend thoroughly, then pour it over top of everything. I spread it around a little so the solid bits from the mix are distributed evenly across the top of the roast.

Put the pot in the cooker and cover and cook on low for 8-10 hours. As previously stated, I'll prep everything and have the pot ready to go and then just stow it in the fridge overnight and put it in the cooker the next morning, so it starts cold and takes the full 10 hours or more in my cooker. If you don't chill it first it will take less time.

I recommend cooking this when you will NOT be home all day, because it will start to smell really really good long before it's done and you will really really want to eat it but it won't be ready yet. :wah: This is why I usually prep it on a Sunday and then stow it in the fridge to go in the cooker on Monday morning before I leave for work. The kitchen will smell delicious when I get home and I won't have to wait TOO long before I can eat it.

Towards the end of the cooking time you can pop the lid and pierce the meat with a fork to check for doneness and then adjust your remaining cooking time accordingly. I just keep it on low until I decide it's ready to eat, then leave it on "keep warm" until I'm ready to eat.

frau kaleun

06-16-13, 11:04 AM

And since you posted that cool English language errors and usage page, here's the first site I go to when I have a cooking or ingredient related question:

The Cook's Thesaurus (http://www.foodsubs.com/)

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 11:09 AM

ISorry, Steve. I don't care for beans that much.
Nothing wrong with that. I was really just arguing the difinitions. As for olives, I put them on pizza and enchiladas. That's about it. I should probably drop them in my salads too. I'll have to remember that tomorrow.

My mom loved to cook okra. I couldn't stand it then and I can't stand it now. Sauerkraut either. I've learned to love a lot of different veggies, but those two I won't ever touch again.

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 11:13 AM

My recipe, stolen and revised from the back of a Lipton Soup Mix box:
Copied to a text file and saved, thank you.

...here's the first site I go to when I have a cooking or ingredient related question:
Bookmarked.

OhmygodI'mturningintoarecipejunkie! What have you people done to me?! :stare: :rotfl2:

Wolferz

06-16-13, 12:12 PM

OhmygodI'mturningintoarecipejunkie! What have you people done to me?! :stare: :rotfl2:

The six mainstays of a good life...

Good food
Good drink
Good friends to share it with
Live
Laugh
Love
:up:

frau kaleun

06-16-13, 12:35 PM

My mom loved to cook okra. I couldn't stand it then and I can't stand it now. Sauerkraut either. I've learned to love a lot of different veggies, but those two I won't ever touch again.

I'm not a sauerkraut fan, or at least never wanted to eat what my mom made because of the smell. I've since found out there are different varieties of the stuff and I was told I might like the Bavarian style, which is sweeter and milder. It uses (more) sugar and caraway seeds than the other varieties of German sauerkraut to which you might be accustomed. I still haven't tried it, though. Maybe someday I'll give it a shot.

Generally I'm not a fan of cooked cabbage at all in any form that I've ever seen put on the table in front of me. Raw cabbage, however, I would eat straight from the crisper as a kid and really good cole slaw is a favorite.

Okra... OMG OKRA! I love okra. I cut it up and put it in vegetable soup and my mom fried it and I still haven't tried that because I don't know how she did it. From what I remember it was just dredged in something and dropped in a skillet of hot oil. Don't know if she used flour or cornmeal, but I hope to figure it out someday. I have a recipe for "oven fried" okra so maybe the coating from that will work in a skillet as well.

The most common complaint I've heard about okra is that it feels "slimy" and I can certainly understand where that comes from, having eaten it all my life, but for me it's never been an issue. I won't eat oysters for the same reason. :haha:

Wolferz

06-16-13, 12:51 PM

Now Cabbage. There's a vegetable I can sink my teeth into. Boiled up in water with butter, potatoes and a can of Corned beef. Mash it all together on a plate, salted and peppered to taste and it's chow city.:D
Boiled and diced cabbage fried up in butter with diced onions and Farfelli pasta(bowties) Haluski is what it's called I think.:up: Halupki is good too.

Oh man! Suddenly I'm starving!

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 12:52 PM

LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA!

First okra, then cabbage.

I needs to go frow up now.

frau kaleun

06-16-13, 02:47 PM

http://greenlitebites.com/images/2008/09/okra.jpg

I AM OKRA... FEAR ME!!!!

:O:

Just ordered some motorized remote control blackout shades for the bedroom windows (not from Amazon, sadly they didn't have any). Won't have them til mid July but since they will be inside mounts I can go ahead and do what I need to do hardware-wise for the curtains I have now and not have to worry about changing whatever I put up now to accommodate some type of blackout function later.

Really hoping these shades work properly, if they do I'll be able to have light through the sheers when I want it but drop the shades to block out light when I don't, which would be pretty much every night when I go to bed. :haha: There is a "streetlight" on the sidewalk that runs along the front of this row of condos and of course it's just close enough to shine in my windows. Nice that it gives some light to the living room at night if all my lights in there are off, not so nice that my bedroom windows are directly above the living room ones and I get light in there too all night long.

Given where the furniture ended up, I wouldn't be able to have window treatments that I could open/close or rearrange manually without moving a bed and one nightstand to get access, so remote controlled units were pretty much my only option if I wanted any kind of blackout treatment at all that wasn't in place 24/7. And they don't come cheap, but what're you gonna do? :-?

Probably still cheaper than buying the motorized drapery rod AND blackout panels for that AND whatever new hardware I would need to put up the window treatments I actually want to SEE and make them fit over the motorized rod. The whole point is that I don't want to see the blackout stuff, I just want it to be there and function so I have darkness when I want it without sacrificing the rest of the decor. So, shades seem to be the way to go. They are doing a great job in the office so far so as long as the motorized/remote bit works okay I should be fine with them.

Sailor Steve

06-16-13, 03:08 PM

Okra <shudder>

Oh, yeah, shades. I've worked enough graveyard shifts and odd hours, all the way from the navy to driving skiers, that I can sleep in just about any lighting conditions. When I don't sleep well at night sometimes I take an afternoon nap, shades open as always - that is when I don't fall asleep in my chair with the sun streaming in through the sliding glass door.

Wolferz

06-16-13, 03:29 PM

Okra? ga ga gag.

Just the smell of sauer kraut used to gag me.

AVGWarhawk

06-16-13, 04:03 PM

Corned beef and cabbage. Saaaawwweeeet! :yeah: I like okra also. Collard greens. :yep:

frau kaleun

06-16-13, 10:06 PM

Sunday In The Condo With Frau Kaleun

(part one)

Time for new curtains in the bedroom! But first, the bed has to be pulled out and the old curtains taken down. Thankfully I've just left big ol' furniture sliders under the bed's feet until I get everything behind it sorted for keeps.

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8492/749l.jpg

And the windows have to be cleaned...

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/8287/twzv.jpg

and the hardware has to be inspected... oy, that doesn't look good. But it's no surprise, I've already discovered that the previous owner apparently was unfamiliar with the concept of wall anchors of any kind. I discovered this when I went to pull a paper towel off the roll over the sink only to have the entire roll end up IN the sink because the previous occupant's towel holder came right out of the wall. I got it to stay back up using a couple anchors and some fatter screws pending a decision on what I'm going to do longterm for paper towel holding and dispensing. :O:

http://imageshack.us/a/img211/4291/6k4g.jpg

This window treatment hardware will have to be dealt with at some point but for now I'm just gonna push it back in the wall and hang the rod back up... it's been holding up the rod all this time, a few more weeks shouldn't be a problem and I'll have to take all this stuff down again when the shades get here. No time or patience to deal with it today. So, the new sheer curtains just went up and that was that.

http://imageshack.us/a/img835/8283/4mn1.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img404/790/u2nc.jpg

They look much better in the picture than in person, lol. I didn't wash or iron them so they still have all the creases from being folded up in their original packages. But they will do for now, and I may wash them when I have to take them down again or at least use the hand steamer on them and see how that works. And yes I know they are hitting the floor and bunching up down there, I want them to do that. They are a little longer than I really wanted, but it was a choice between that or too short to hit the floor at all so... I may turn up the hems one time and whipstitch them or something. Another decision to be made later when I put them up for what I hope will be the last time for a long time.

Now to get the bed back in shape for this evening's sleepytime.

http://imageshack.us/a/img407/9990/qx97.jpg

I didn't like having to look at the unfinished wood and gray slats of my bed base, and given the type of bed I have there's really no way around that unless I cover it with something. It's a couple inches longer and wider than the mattress, so a queen size fitted sheet or cover won't cut it (believe me, I tried. And tried. AND TRIED :stare:).

So I went to Walmart and bought their cheapest store brand white king size fitted sheet in the hopes that the extra inches in one direction would let me stretch if over the whole base. It actually worked pretty well!

http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9115/3m4u.jpg

Then there's the really fun part - getting the mattress back in place. Those things are so unwieldy. And wobbly. And heavy. Not my favorite combination.

http://imageshack.us/a/img200/4199/11f.jpg

Only a few more steps and we'll be on track for bedtime later...

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/2180/q2mz.jpg

and the rest of the bedding can stay piled up against the wall, because this is all I'll need for now. Even the coverlet is overkill, but I'd really hate to wake up cold and have to go stumbling around looking for a blanket, so it's on there just in case.

My best friend keeps asking me "how do the lamps look?" because she really liked the pictures (at Amazon) of the lamps I bought for the nightstands. And every time she asks I have to say "I don't know yet!" :O: So I was really hoping to get them out and set them up today, but by the time I got this far it was after 6 PM and I was really hungry. So on to dinnertime!

frau kaleun

06-16-13, 10:12 PM

Sunday In The Condo With Frau Kaleun

(part two)

This will be my very first full homecooked meal in my new kitchen. I know, I made pasta salad yesterday, but that was no great shakes. Tonight's menu is a little more labor intensive and time-consuming.

Starting with the half-runners, which I washed and left to drain in the sink while I fiddled with curtains and bedding and laundry and whatnot.

http://imageshack.us/a/img819/1183/o4s9.jpg

Oh, and did I mention that I can bring home the bacon?

http://imageshack.us/a/img194/5921/x9i2.jpg

And fry it up in a pan?

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And put some fresh green beans in there to bring to a boil and then simmer for an hour or so?

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Words cannot describe how good this smelled when it really got cooking. :rock:

Also, there was cornbread. Going in the oven...

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and coming out again.

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And those were the cornerstones of my first "not one course" homecooked dinner. Rounded out with some fresh tomatoes, salted, and some fresh strawberries, sugared. :D

http://imageshack.us/a/img825/7382/c3du.jpg

Regarding that cornbread recipe, which I linked to yesterday: I used the amount of sugar stated in the recipe and it was sweeter than what I grew up with. Still good, but still a bit on the sweet side. Those of you who might be trying it out but don't want a sweet cornbread might want to try adding less. That's my plan if I make this recipe again.

My mother's cornbread was more salty than sweet, at least that's how I remember it. Maybe I have the recipe somewhere, or perhaps my sister's got it. If I ever find it (or come up with one for a truly not-at-all-sweet cornbread), I'll try to remember and post it here.

Red October1984

06-16-13, 10:31 PM

Sunday in the Condo with Frau Kaleun? This almost calls for a new thread.

Condo Life with Frau Kaleun.

Housekeeping, cooking, gaming, you name it! It'll be Subsim's own little DIY Channel. :)

Jimbuna

06-17-13, 05:05 AM

All that's missing in your banquet Frau is a nice side dish of Lamb Vindaloo and Pilau rice :sunny:

Wolferz

06-17-13, 07:22 AM

She's gone all Martha Stewart on us.:03::O::up:

I like Heidi the tool girl better.:D

frau kaleun

06-17-13, 08:01 AM

Even Heidi's gotta eat. :O:

Don't worry, there's still the leaky patio spigot to look forward to. And I still haven't moved the fridge and started ripping baseboard off the walls. :haha:

AVGWarhawk

06-17-13, 08:05 AM

"Keeping up with Frau." This weeks episode, cornbread on a cast iron pan, green beans, bacon and what the fellas on the forum learned about cooking. :haha:

Wolferz

06-17-13, 09:06 AM

Even Heidi's gotta eat. :O:

Don't worry, there's still the leaky patio spigot to look forward to. And I still haven't moved the fridge and started ripping baseboard off the walls. :haha:

Forget those please. It's time to soup up the motors in your power blinds so they slam shut like a door on the death star.:03: ooo ooo ooo

Sailor Steve

06-17-13, 09:23 AM

Oh Frau...Maria Muldaur got nothin' on you.
Nor does Peggy Lee.

danasan

06-17-13, 10:21 AM

She's gone all Martha Stewart on us.:03::O::up:

I like Heidi the tool girl better.:D

I wonder if FK is actually tool girl Heidi :hmmm:

Some evidence:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Debbe-Dunning-030811-N-5539C-001.jpg/428px-Debbe-Dunning-030811-N-5539C-001.jpg (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbe_Dunning)

Wolferz

06-17-13, 10:46 AM

Parlez vous Hubba Hubba, Heidi?:|\\

frau kaleun

06-17-13, 09:32 PM

Forget her, look at my lamps! LOOK AT THEM!

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/7797/gr20.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/865/9tgr.jpg

The shades are a little dull but once I get some more color in there, and maybe paint the walls, I think they'll be fine. Or maybe I'll just tart up the shades instead. :hmmm:

They are touch lamps and work like a charm, that's the dimmest of three settings that each lamp cycles through when you touch the bases.

Also finally got all the drawers lined in my new furniture, and the shelves all lined in the linen closet and stuff in there sorted out. Progress!

Edit: aaaaand I just got an email from the manager at my old apt building, letting me know that she is sending me a check for the full amount of the security deposit I paid them eighteen years ago. She said I was the best tenant she ever had and even if I'd destroyed the place (which she said many tenants have done over the years) she would still give me my deposit back on account of how much trouble I never caused them. :rock:

Yay! That will more than pay for my Remote Control Death Star Blackout Shades. I just need to figure out how to set up some kind of sound system in there and trigger it to play the Imperial March every time I hit the remote to lower the shades. :O:

TarJak

06-17-13, 10:51 PM

I hate to be the one to tell you, but your lamp stands are bent.:D

Its starting to look very homey now.

HundertzehnGustav

06-18-13, 02:43 AM

i find it weird to be sort of "invited" into your bedroom.
along with 250 other subsim dudes and dudettes.

it is motivating though... that bed looks like a piece to have!
and abuse... (howl!)
and so goddamn tidy. shame on me and my mess and grit and dirt.
:up:

Wolferz

06-18-13, 05:51 AM

The lamps are so chic, chick.:yep: Like waking up on the ocean waves?

I put a request in to John Williams to warm up the London Philharmonic for ya.:03::D

No red blooded tool dude can forget Heidi!

Jimbuna

06-18-13, 07:59 AM

Looking very comfy :cool:

Wolferz

06-18-13, 06:19 PM

Are you going to break out the Bedazzler for your lamp shades and attach some little disco balls around the bottoms?:03::O:

u crank

06-18-13, 06:39 PM

Forget her, look at my lamps! LOOK AT THEM!

Your lamps are.....very.....shapely. :03:

frau kaleun

06-18-13, 06:40 PM

Are you going to break out the Bedazzler for your lamp shades and attach some little disco balls around the bottoms?:03::O:

NO!!!!

I had/have a little tasteful beaded "skirt" that went around the lampshade on the old nightstand lamp, but it's the wrong color and style entirely for the new decor. :hmmm:

Red October1984

06-18-13, 06:50 PM

Forget her, look at my lamps! LOOK AT THEM!

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/7797/gr20.jpg

I'm too busy checkin out dat sexy alarm clock.

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1279082592656.jpg

frau kaleun

06-18-13, 07:30 PM

I'm too busy checkin out dat sexy alarm clock.

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1279082592656.jpg

DAT TIMEX!

Lol, I actually thought I might get rid of it or else use it in a different room but sitting next to the new lamp, I like it a lot better. It's a nice little clock, battery backup so the clock still runs and the alarm still goes off if there's a power outage. Programmable AM/FM radio and you can set the alarm to come on with a particular station playing and it will automatically switch to that station for the alarm even if you were playing it on a different station earlier.

The nicest thing about it is that you can set the alarm to go off every day or only on Monday through Friday (or just on the weekends). Means I don't have to turn it off on Friday night to keep it from waking me up at the crack of dawn on Saturday, and more importantly don't have to remember to turn it back ON before I fall asleep on Sunday night. :yeah:

Red October1984

06-18-13, 08:24 PM

DAT TIMEX!

Lol, I actually thought I might get rid of it or else use it in a different room but sitting next to the new lamp, I like it a lot better. It's a nice little clock, battery backup so the clock still runs and the alarm still goes off if there's a power outage. Programmable AM/FM radio and you can set the alarm to come on with a particular station playing and it will automatically switch to that station for the alarm even if you were playing it on a different station earlier.

The nicest thing about it is that you can set the alarm to go off every day or only on Monday through Friday (or just on the weekends). Means I don't have to turn it off on Friday night to keep it from waking me up at the crack of dawn on Saturday, and more importantly don't have to remember to turn it back ON before I fall asleep on Sunday night. :yeah:

:rotfl2:

Here's my socially awkward alarm clock. Nothing near the caliber of yours. :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/7606/f71b.jpg

It's even got an analog radio control for AM/FM along with the projector to project the time on the ceiling when it's dark. It's more annoying than useful. Then it has the mysterious sleep button which I have no idea what it does. It's got no battery so I have to reset everytime the power flickers.....this baby also runs fast sometimes and I have to reset and tell it to calm down and take a chill pill.

Wolferz

06-19-13, 07:34 AM

That "sleep" button is probably a mislabeled "snooze" button, RO.
Alarm goes off but you're not ready to greet the day, hit the snooze button to catch a few more winks. When the snooze timer expires, the alarm goes off again.
There is a new kind of alarm clock out there that is like the first commercially available Droid. If you hit the snooze bar once, it moves from its spot. If you hit the snooze bar on it twice, it then runs away and hides before the alarm goes off in earnest. Forcing you to get up and find it.:haha:

frau kaleun

06-19-13, 07:41 AM

That "sleep" button is probably a mislabeled "snooze" button, RO.

That's what I thought at first but look at the picture, there's already a snooze button on the top left.

My guess is that it's a button that turns on the radio for a predetermined amount of time after which it turns off automatically. So you can turn it on and fall asleep listening to it (if that's your thing) and then it will shut itself off and not keep playing all night.

There is a new kind of alarm clock out there that is like the first commercially available Droid. If you hit the snooze bar on it twice, it then runs away and hides before the alarm goes off in earnest. Forcing you to get up and find it.:haha:

I saw something online the other day about an alarm clock with some kind of built-in camera and facial recognition software. Supposedly it won't shut off until you smile at it. Still not sure if it was a joke or not. :O:

Wolferz

06-19-13, 07:52 AM

That's what I thought at first but look at the picture, there's already a snooze button on the top left.

My guess is that it's a button that turns on the radio for a predetermined amount of time after which it turns off automatically. So you can turn it on and fall asleep listening to it (if that's your thing) and then it will shut itself off and not keep playing all night.

Oh yeah. I forgot about those. My alarm clocks aren't that sophisticated. But it does correct itself after a power outage using the Atomic Clock signal. The batteries only hold the alarm settings.

I saw something online the other day about an alarm clock with some kind of built-in camera and facial recognition software. Supposedly it won't shut off until you smile at it. Still not sure if it was a joke or not. :O:

The droid clock is called Clocky and you can see it at the link... nandahome.com

Red October1984

06-19-13, 12:18 PM

That's what I thought at first but look at the picture, there's already a snooze button on the top left.

My guess is that it's a button that turns on the radio for a predetermined amount of time after which it turns off automatically. So you can turn it on and fall asleep listening to it (if that's your thing) and then it will shut itself off and not keep playing all night.

I'm not sure. I don't listen to the radio at night anyway. The local radio stations suck after 2200.

Oh yeah. I forgot about those. My alarm clocks aren't that sophisticated. But it does correct itself after a power outage using the Atomic Clock signal. The batteries only hold the alarm settings.

My alarm clock? Sophisticated?

:rotfl2:

You funny man... This thing is nowhere near sophisticated.

AVGWarhawk

06-19-13, 12:24 PM

Runs well without electricity.

http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/jerryb7/jerryb71210/jerryb7121000208/15852527-wind-up-alarm-clock-with-bells.jpg

vienna

06-19-13, 12:24 PM

The six mainstays of a good life...

Good food
Good drink
Good friends to share it with
Live
Laugh
Love
:up:

Been away from the board a couple of days, but had to resond to this post...

This brought to mind the TV show "Taxi" and the character Latka's take on what you need for a good life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmZAxRH3Ibs

<O>

Red October1984

06-19-13, 12:30 PM

The six mainstays of a good life...

Good food - Check
Good drink - Check
Good friends to share it with - :hmmm: I guess Check
Live - *checks pulse* Check!
Laugh - All the time Check
Love - :hmmm: :dead:

I need some work I think.

HW3

06-19-13, 01:27 PM

My guess is that it's a button that turns on the radio for a predetermined amount of time after which it turns off automatically. So you can turn it on and fall asleep listening to it (if that's your thing) and then it will shut itself off and not keep playing all night.

Yes that is what it does.:yep: Usually plays for 30 minutes to 1 hour if I remember right. I tried it out once a long time ago when they first came out with that function.

:subsim:

frau kaleun

06-19-13, 01:31 PM

Yes that is what it does.:yep: Usually plays for 30 minutes to 1 hour if I remember right. I tried it out once a long time ago when they first came out with that function.

:subsim:

Mine has the same function with variable play times and the option of different sounds instead of radio. Something that sounds like a rippling stream full of croaking frogs (which I would like if it weren't for the frogs), something that sounds like ocean surf with gulls cawing (which I would like if it weren't for the gulls), and something that I think is supposed to be a rainstorm but just sounds like static or generic white noise to me. Since it doesn't include frogs or birds that's the one I usually use if I need to drown something out when I'm trying to sleep. But it's rare that I use that function at all.

Wolferz

06-19-13, 01:34 PM

All I need is this chair.
And this ash tray.
And this paddle ball game.:haha:

Wolferz

06-19-13, 01:35 PM

Runs well without electricity.

http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/jerryb7/jerryb71210/jerryb7121000208/15852527-wind-up-alarm-clock-with-bells.jpg

It wakes the dead too.:03:

Sailor Steve

06-19-13, 01:39 PM

It wakes the dead too.:03:
I think that's the idea. Of course you could have a modern clock with an MP3 player that plays 2WO screaming "ALAAAAAARRRRRMMMMM!!!!"

Wolferz

06-19-13, 01:45 PM

I need some work I think.

Love is a funny thing. It's very hard to find without a J O B.:hmmm:
Be patient kiddo. It will show up when you least expect it.:up: Then you'll soon realize how advantageous being single was.:rock:

Red October1984

06-19-13, 02:09 PM

I think that's the idea. Of course you could have a modern clock with an MP3 player that plays 2WO screaming "ALAAAAAARRRRRMMMMM!!!!"

That was my alarm for a while on my phone. I used it every Sunday to get up for church.

Love is a funny thing. It's very hard to find without a J O B.:hmmm:
Be patient kiddo. It will show up when you least expect it.:up: Then you'll soon realize how advantageous being single was.:rock:

Love ain't the only thing on that list that's got an issue. :up:

Wolferz

06-19-13, 02:13 PM

Love ain't the only thing on that list that's got an issue. :up:

It will be alright. You'll find the one.:yep: " Hello Betty!"
Then you'll chase her until she catches you.:huh: " Wait a second!"
Then it's all over with but the shouting.:haha: " C'mon laugh with me."

Red October1984

06-19-13, 02:17 PM

It will be alright. You'll find the one:yep:
Then chase her until she catches you.:huh:
Then it's all over with but the shouting.:haha:

Right...

We'll find out in 3 months when I've got a job, car, money.... :har:

Laughing is one thing on that list that doesn't need any improvement....just some of the things I laugh at....

Wolferz

06-19-13, 06:07 PM

Right...

We'll find out in 3 months when I've got a job, car, money.... :har:

Laughing is one thing on that list that doesn't need any improvement....just some of the things I laugh at....

Did you forget anything in your list?
Job, car, money, woman....:03::O:

Red October1984

06-19-13, 06:38 PM

Did you forget anything in your list?
Job, car, money, woman....:03::O:

Got to have a job, car, and money before I get that woman. :yep: :D

BrucePartington

06-19-13, 07:10 PM

Laugh it up, but that was my first alarm clock when I lived in Pittsburgh PA.
And I chose it exactly for waking up the dead (me, exhausted). I didn't want to be late for school.
Runs well without electricity.

http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/jerryb7/jerryb71210/jerryb7121000208/15852527-wind-up-alarm-clock-with-bells.jpg

BrucePartington

06-19-13, 07:26 PM

I seem to remember Davy Jones saying something like "Ah! Love. A dreadful bond."

And you know what they say:
"Being single makes you miserable; being married makes you wish you were dead" :haha:

Now seriously, love is a very important part of life. But it's also important not to try to rush it.
Many people mistake passion for love, I know I did... so don't rush it. Live life, have fun.
True love will happen naturally when you start thinking about settling down.

Got to have a job, car, and money before I get that woman. :yep: :D

Red October1984

06-19-13, 07:52 PM

Now seriously, love is a very important part of life. But it's also important not to try to rush it.
Many people mistake passion for love, I know I did... so don't rush it. Live life, have fun.
True love will happen naturally when you start thinking about settling down.

That's why I'm going to get my career set and a good education before I worry about settling down.

It would be nice to have a living female within 50 miles that enjoys my presence though. :hmmm:

Wolferz

06-19-13, 08:20 PM

It would be nice to have a living female within 50 miles that enjoys my presence though

Are you a necromancer?:haha:

BrucePartington

06-19-13, 08:22 PM

(snip)
It would be nice to have a living female within 50 miles that enjoys my presence though. :hmmm:

That's the "live life and have fun" part :03:
Only time will tell if such wonderfull lady will or will not become the love of your life.
"An officer and a gentleman" movie comes to mind. Although a bit of a fairytale, it's still a fairly good example of what to do and not to do, when you observe the different paths of the two couples.

My my. Apologies FK, I've drifted tremendously from OT.
Although I've not commented on OT, I've been following it and am enjoying it thoroughly, watching your progress and rejoycing in it, dreaming of being able to buy my own home one day. From the pics it seems like a very nice house. Congrats.

frau kaleun

06-19-13, 08:23 PM

Are you a necromancer?:haha:

Please stop making me remember Yngvild. *shudder* :O:

Wolferz

06-19-13, 08:36 PM

Please stop making me remember Yngvild. *shudder* :O:

:rotfl2::haha::har:
Arondil was such a joker. Until I put a few arrows in his gob.

Red October1984

06-19-13, 08:45 PM

Please stop making me remember Yngvild. *shudder* :O:

Well....I'm no necromancer. You've got nothing to painfully remember about me.

That's the "live life and have fun" part :03:
Only time will tell if such wonderfull lady will or will not become the love of your life.
"An officer and a gentleman" movie comes to mind. Although a bit of a fairytale, it's still a fairly good example of what to do and not to do, when you observe the different paths of the two couples.

I see. Well... I'll keep playing the waiting game. :woot: That Officer you speak of...if he's military, he's familiar with "Hurry up and wait!"

My my. Apologies FK, I've drifted tremendously from OT.
Although I've not commented on OT, I've been following it and am enjoying it thoroughly, watching your progress and rejoycing in it, dreaming of being able to buy my own home one day. From the pics it seems like a very nice house. Congrats.

This is what we do when we're waiting on a new episode of Around the House with Frau Kaleun

BrucePartington

06-19-13, 09:05 PM

...if he's military, he's familiar with "Hurry up and wait!"

Alistair MacLean's Breakheart Pass? Quite possibly Charles Bronson's best performance ever.
We're into trains now, another passion of mine.

Sailor Steve

06-19-13, 09:06 PM

Alistair MacLean's Breakheart Pass? Quite possibly Charles Bronson's best performance ever.
:rock:

frau kaleun

06-19-13, 09:08 PM

From the pics it seems like a very nice house. Congrats.

Thanks! And it's even better than a very nice house, it's a very nice condo which means it looks like a very nice house on the inside but on the outside somebody else is mowing the lawn, trimming the hedges, mulching the flowers, filling cracks in the sidewalks and driveway, treating for pests, etc. All those pesky things that I really have no interest in doing, like, EVER. :O:

I do have a little private patio though and I've found that due to the privacy I really enjoy sitting out there, even if the weeds I haven't treated yet are threatening to take over. I really need to get on that. Maybe this weekend. :hmmm:

Wolferz

06-20-13, 08:11 AM

Oh those pesky weeds. Mother nature yields you a little piece of paradise and then constantly tries to take it back. It's Rabbitat around my house all summer long. The Timber Tigers enjoy it immensely. I even had one come up and thank me the other day. He came right up on the bottom step while I was standing on the back porch.:) We even have an oddball that's all black in color. Anti albino?
Curious little creatures. If I'm in the driveway working under a vehicle they always walk past to see what I'm up to. :haha:
If they would only go get Gadget to assist me. "sigh"

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 03:17 PM

Oh hey look I found something else online that I really really want for my kitchen...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7586017280/hCA55CA96/

:O:

u crank

06-20-13, 03:30 PM

That is a very nice frying pan. :yep:

AVGWarhawk

06-20-13, 03:31 PM

What? You want cigarette ashes in your eggs?

Red October1984

06-20-13, 03:33 PM

Oh hey look I found something else online that I really really want for my kitchen... :O:

Can you really buy one of those? If you can, I'm getting one of these:

http://files.mom.me/photos/2012/05/21/6-1650-jennifer-lawrence-fans-event-in-madrid-1337643735.jpg

It'll look nice in the living room right next to the gantry leading outside to one of these:

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt62/rcscalemodels_photos/GATO%20SUBMARINE/03_gato-625x450.jpg

Still not sure where I want to put Liam Neeson or my Bf-109... :hmmm: I guess I can keep my Bf-109 in the hangar at my airport and Mr. Neeson can run the war room. :rock:

I think I'll also need Dane Cook to stop by... :yep:

Jimbuna

06-20-13, 03:59 PM

Oh hey look I found something else online that I really really want for my kitchen...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7586017280/hCA55CA96/

:O:

Nice shirt/blouse :yeah:

Red October1984

06-20-13, 04:08 PM

Nice shirt/blouse :yeah:

I agree...

Now that I think about it....

That's some damn fine toast in the background there. :hmmm: Frau, you got to get me some of that.

Jimbuna

06-20-13, 04:12 PM

Thanks.

Wolferz

06-20-13, 04:30 PM

So, you want a picture of some greaser who smokes while he cooks?

Would you like it framed?:03::O:

Jimbuna

06-20-13, 04:33 PM

So, you want a picture of some greaser who smokes while he cooks?

Would you like it framed?:03::O:

That would have been me 5 years ago but not anymore thankfully.

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 04:35 PM

That is a very nice frying pan. :yep:

What? You want cigarette ashes in your eggs?

Nice shirt/blouse :yeah:

I agree...

Now that I think about it....

That's some damn fine toast in the background there. :hmmm: Frau, you got to get me some of that.

So, you want a picture of some greaser who smokes while he cooks?

Would you like it framed?:03::O:

LA LA LA I can't hear you over the sound of Jon Hamm making me breakfast in my dreams. :O:

Red October1984

06-20-13, 04:40 PM

LA LA LA I can't hear you over the sound of Jon Hamm making me breakfast in my dreams. :O:

Let me get in my Bf-109 and see if I can't wake you up. :hmmm:

Wolferz

06-20-13, 04:46 PM

Quite the appetite you have there Frau.:03:

Frau Kaleuns' vacation dreams...
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/jon-hamm-shirtless-mad-men-beach-scenes-in-hawaii-14.jpg

Cheeky:D

Red October1984

06-20-13, 05:00 PM

Quite the appetite you have there Frau.:03:

Frau Kaleuns' vacation dreams...Cheeky:D

That guy has the most dazed look on his face.

It's like he's thinking "Where the hell am I and who is this woman?"

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 05:06 PM

It's like he's thinking "Where the hell am I and who is this woman?"

It would not be the first time Don Draper looked around and wondered that. :haha:

Man drinks like a fish and beds anything that moves, is what I'm sayin'.

Funny thing is, Jon Hamm (the actor) seems like a really cool, nice, decent guy in real life, and yet as Jon Hamm he doesn't do anything for me.

Don Draper (the character) is a NIGHTMARE of dysfunction and in personal matters can't be trusted any further than you could throw him, but... *swoon*.

So, yeah, totally just fantasy material. In real life you'd change your locks and refer him to a good therapist. :O:

vienna

06-20-13, 05:23 PM

Don Draper (the character) is a NIGHTMARE of dysfunction and in personal matters can't be trusted any further than you could throw him, but... *swoon*.

...

Lord, no! Not another one of those ladies who love the "bad boy". Please tell me you're not into that whole "I know I can change/save him" scene. I've had several who have tried to do that to me and I have just politely told them I prefer my own small form of insanity and am comfortable not trying to be "saved"...

Really, Frau, say you're not just another one of those swooning loons... :)

<O>

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 05:37 PM

Lord, no! Not another one of those ladies who love the "bad boy". Please tell me you're not into that whole "I know I can change/save him" scene. I've had several who have tried to do that to me and I have just politely told them I prefer my own small form of insanity and am comfortable not trying to be "saved"...

Really, Frau, say you're not just another one of those swooning loons... :)

<O>

That's why I made the distinction between fantasy and reality. There are men I swoon over in fantasy that I wouldn't put up with for five minutes in real life. :03:

vienna

06-20-13, 05:39 PM

That's why I made the distinction between fantasy and reality. There are men I swoon over in fantasy that I wouldn't put up with for five minutes in real life. :03:

Well, in that case...

http://stkarnick.com/culture/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Obamanation-Emily-Litella-Never-mind.jpg

<O>

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 05:42 PM

Well, in that case...

http://stkarnick.com/culture/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Obamanation-Emily-Litella-Never-mind.jpg

<O>

Okay, well I might up with them a little bit. Five minutes, a couple hours...

...but then they'd have to put their pants on and go away. :O:

vienna

06-20-13, 05:44 PM

Okay, well I might up with them a little bit. Five minutes, a couple hours...

...but then they'd have to put their pants on and go away. :O:

Youse gots class, Frau, youse gots lottsa class... :D

<O>

Wolferz

06-20-13, 05:53 PM

Ok, I'm done with this line of thought.:D

Frau, you go right ahead and dream of your dream guy. The only problem is you'll awaken from the dream... eventually.:03:

Red October1984

06-20-13, 07:24 PM

Okay, well I might up with them a little bit. Five minutes, a couple hours......but then they'd have to put their pants on and go away. :O:

Well....

Everybody has fantasies. :doh:

Wolferz

06-20-13, 07:41 PM

Well....

Everybody has fantasies. :doh:

Not everybody. I found my dream girl. It only took 42 years, but I found her.:D Neener.

Red October1984

06-20-13, 08:03 PM

Not everybody. I found my dream girl. It only took 42 years, but I found her.:D Neener.

Well....there is one girl I know....

The same one who shot me down in Febuary...

The same one I'm going to try again in a few months..... :salute:

BUT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT! JENNIFER LAWRENCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET! :har:

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 08:12 PM

BUT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT! JENNIFER LAWRENCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET! :har:

I've been waiting for Harrison Ford since the first SW movie came out in 1977.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5603455488/h48D07D0F/

TarJak

06-20-13, 08:16 PM

I've been waiting for Harrison Ford since the first SW movie came out in 1977.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5603455488/h48D07D0F/

He's getting on now so how long will you wait?

Red October1984

06-20-13, 08:24 PM

I've been waiting for Harrison Ford since the first SW movie came out in 1977.

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/5418-crying-guy.jpg

Why are we subjected to such torture!

Even a phone call... :rotfl2:

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 08:36 PM

He's getting on now so how long will you wait?

Good point. If I'm gonna do a geezer in my dreams I should probably aim higher and shoot for Sean Connery. :haha:

Sailor Steve

06-20-13, 08:39 PM

I've been waiting for Harrison Ford since the first SW movie came out in 1977.
Katherine Ross, The Graduate, 1968. :sunny:

I can admire Sam Elliott and hate him at the same time. :O:

mapuc

06-20-13, 09:15 PM

That is a very nice frying pan. :yep:

That's not a frying pan. I can't find the english word for it. Not even Google translate can translate it for me

In swedish we call it "sautépanna" Panna=pan It's the word Sauté

Markus

Sailor Steve

06-20-13, 09:19 PM

It's the same word in English, "sauté pan".
http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-difference-saut-pan-87524

That said, just from looking at one I would have no idea what it was.

Red October1984

06-20-13, 09:31 PM

That said, just from looking at one I would have no idea what it was.

Haha...

Women have thirty different names for spoons...

Men have a couple. Big Spoon, Little Spoon, and Not-For-Soup-Spoon.

:D

BrucePartington

06-20-13, 09:54 PM

To me "sauté" is clearly french for jumped, so.....a jumped pan?:har:
Much like "cute steak" :O:

Playing with translations, what if I asked if anybody knew where is a place called "almost island"?

It's the same word in English, "sauté pan".
http://www.thekitchn.com/whats-the-difference-saut-pan-87524

That said, just from looking at one I would have no idea what it was.

frau kaleun

06-20-13, 09:58 PM

Haha...

Women have thirty different names for spoons...

Men have a couple. Big Spoon, Little Spoon, and Not-For-Soup-Spoon.

:D

TBH the people most likely to refer to that as a sauté pan are professionals in the culinary arts... a field in which men have traditionally outnumbered women by a huge margin and, according to most sources I've seen, still do. Some studies put it as high as 10 to 1 as recently as 4 or 5 years ago.

My mother, who cooked just about every day of her life for about, oh, 70+ years, would've called it a skillet... if she ever laid eyes on one, which I doubt. I only know what it is because I'm somewhat familiar with higher end cookware... most basic, "for the home" sets rarely include one.

Red October1984

06-20-13, 10:11 PM

I just call it a pan.

I don't use special names. It's a pan.

There are pots and there are pans. That's it. :)

HW3

06-20-13, 10:22 PM

A frying pan, frypan, or skillet is a flat-bottomed pan used for frying, searing, and browning foods. It is typically 200 to 300 mm (8 to 12 in) in diameter with relatively low sides that flare outwards, a long handle, and no lid. Larger pans may have a small grab handle opposite the main handle. A pan of similar dimensions, but with vertical sides and often with a lid, is called a sauté pan or sauté. While a sauté pan can be used like a frying pan, it is designed for lower heat cooking methods, namely sautéing.

:subsim:

Sailor Steve

06-20-13, 11:24 PM

I just call it a pan.

I don't use special names. It's a pan.

There are pots and there are pans. That's it. :)
That's true of a great many of us. You manage to make it sound like you're bragging about it. :hmmm:

Red October1984

06-20-13, 11:26 PM

That's true of a great many of us. You manage to make it sound like you're bragging about it. :hmmm:

Not meaning to.

It's just how it came out. :oops:

Sailor Steve

06-20-13, 11:28 PM

Not meaning to.

It's just how it came out. :oops:
I know. It was just my impression, or opinion. I didn't think you meant it that way. :sunny:

Wolferz

06-21-13, 04:05 PM

I know. It was just my impression, or opinion. I didn't think you meant it that way. :sunny:

The written word is flat. Without inflection or intonation, it leaves interpretation in the mind of the reader and can be influenced by the reader's emotional state at the time.:hmmm:
Let's cook it in a sawtay pan or a potfor.:03::D

Red October1984

06-21-13, 04:25 PM

Let's cook it in a sawtay pan or a potfor.:03::D

Let's microwave it and be done!

:timeout: :D

Sailor Steve

06-21-13, 04:26 PM

Let's cook it in a sawtay pan or a potfor.:03::D
You cant-a fool-a me. There is-a no sanity clause! :O:

Red October1984

06-21-13, 04:32 PM

You cant-a fool-a me. There is-a no sanity clause! :O:

I'll have you know I'm part Italian... :stare:

I find that offen-

Nope. Couldn't do it with a straight face even though I am part Italian. :har: :har:

u crank

06-21-13, 04:35 PM

That's not a frying pan. I can't find the english word for it. Not even Google translate can translate it for me

In swedish we call it "sautépanna" Panna=pan It's the word Sauté

Markus

In dees heer parts we calls dat a fryin' pan. Ya cooks yer bacon in it.:shucks:

Red October1984

06-21-13, 04:41 PM

In dees heer parts we calls dat a fryin' pan. Ya cooks yer bacon in it.:shucks:

Country Must Be Country Wide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8peBUdlUNmM)

Jimbuna

06-21-13, 04:42 PM

In dees heer parts we calls dat a fryin' pan. Ya cooks yer bacon in it.:shucks:

Makes sense here in the UK

Sailor Steve

06-21-13, 04:42 PM

I'll have you know I'm part Italian... :stare:

I find that offen-

Nope. Couldn't do it with a straight face even though I am part Italian. :har: :har:
It helps if you know the source.

Red October1984

06-21-13, 04:44 PM

It helps if you know the source.

Probably. There's a lot of references that I don't get. :oops:

Sailor Steve

06-21-13, 04:45 PM

D'OH! :damn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Sy6oiJbEk

Sorry about that.

Red October1984

06-21-13, 05:02 PM

WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THAT GUY'S MUSTACHE?!?! :o

Oberon

06-21-13, 05:05 PM

Somebody hasn't heard of the Marx brothers... :doh:

Red October1984

06-21-13, 05:07 PM

Somebody hasn't heard of the Marx brothers... :doh:

Well I have now. :)

TarJak

06-21-13, 05:35 PM

Makes sense here in the UK

Only oop norf.:O:

Sailor Steve

06-21-13, 07:14 PM

WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THAT GUY'S MUSTACHE?!?! :o
The Marx Brothers were a vaudeville stage act. Though all of different ages they looked so much alike they could have been quintuplets. To mark out their different characters they used elaborate getups. Chico (Leonard) wore the funny hat and talked with the mock Italian accent, and was a very fine pianist. Harpo (Adolph, though in 1911 he started going by Arthur) wore a curly red "fright" wig and never spoke. He played the harp very well. Groucho (Julius) used shoe polish for the outrageous mustache and eyebrows. He created the funniest characters (though they were all variations of the same one) and wrote the best lines and songs. Gummo (Milton) was never in any of the movies. Zeppo (Herbert) was only in a few of the movies, always playing the straight man.

Groucho had the longest career after they broke up, with a TV show and guest appearances in other movies. His jokes are infamous. When they made their movie A Night In Casablanca, Warner Brothers Studios threatened to sue them for copyright infringement, claiming to have used the name Casablanca first - which was true. Groucho threatened a countersuit. His reason? "We were using the name 'Brothers' First!"

A little known fact: In the 1940s Chico Marx had a 'big band' orchestra. He gave 17-year-old Mel Torme his start.

Only a tiny part of their legacy - the famous 'mirror' scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5lU52aWTJo

WernherVonTrapp

06-21-13, 08:23 PM

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-merv/groucho.gif

Red October1984

06-21-13, 08:45 PM

The Marx Brothers were a vaudeville stage act. Though all of different ages they looked so much alike they could have been quintuplets. To mark out their different characters they used elaborate getups. Chico (Leonard) wore the funny hat and talked with the mock Italian accent, and was a very fine pianist. Harpo (Adolph, though in 1911 he started going by Arthur) wore a curly red "fright" wig and never spoke. He played the harp very well. Groucho (Julius) used shoe polish for the outrageous mustache and eyebrows. He created the funniest characters (though they were all variations of the same one) and wrote the best lines and songs. Gummo (Milton) was never in any of the movies. Zeppo (Herbert) was only in a few of the movies, always playing the straight man.

Groucho had the longest career after they broke up, with a TV show and guest appearances in other movies. His jokes are infamous. When they made their movie A Night In Casablanca, Warner Brothers Studios threatened to sue them for copyright infringement, claiming to have used the name Casablanca first - which was true. Groucho threatened a countersuit. His reason? "We were using the name 'Brothers' First!"

A little known fact: In the 1940s Chico Marx had a 'big band' orchestra. He gave 17-year-old Mel Torme his start.

Only a tiny part of their legacy - the famous 'mirror' scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5lU52aWTJo

Nice! I learned something today. :arrgh!:

frau kaleun

06-21-13, 09:21 PM

Nice! I learned something today. :arrgh!:

This may be my proudest moment ever in the history of this thread.

Some young'un who didn't know who the Marx Brothers were, now knows who the Marx Brothers were. :woot:

Red, you should add A Night At The Opera, A Day At The Races, and Duck Soup to your "must see" movie list ASAP. :yep:

Red October1984

06-21-13, 09:33 PM

This may be my proudest moment ever in the history of this thread.

You're welcome. You can thank me and Sailor Steve later. :O:

Some young'un who didn't know who the Marx Brothers were, now knows who the Marx Brothers were. :woot:

:o

Yes. It is true that I'm younger than most on here...but not the youngest. You still have Cybermat47, Brycey634, and there are more. There is even one who is within a year of my age.

I wouldn't consider myself a "young'un" but maybe the more common term "Young Adult" that says I'm old enough that I'm not a kid (I have my moments. :smug: ) but I'm not quite old enough to be a full fledged adult.

Red, you should add A Night At The Opera, A Day At The Races, and Duck Soup to your "must see" movie list ASAP. :yep:

Will do. Thanks Frau! :arrgh!:

EDIT: This was better than buying a frickin' house on your own?!?! I think not. :D

frau kaleun

06-21-13, 10:40 PM

EDIT: This was better than buying a frickin' house on your own?!?! I think not. :D

Eventually both my house and I will be gone, and from a "bigger picture" perspective it won't mean much.

The Marx Brothers are part of the cultural heritage of the human race and for any part of that to be lost forever through mere ignorance of its existence is a tragedy.

Sure you could say it's only comedy but one thing I have learned is that laughter is a very good thing. In a world where there are so many things with the potential to divide us from each other, laughter unites. :yep:

HW3

06-21-13, 11:22 PM

Groucho had the longest career after they broke up, with a TV show.

The show was called You Bet Your Life, and ran from 1950 to 1961.:yep:

:subsim:

Red October1984

06-21-13, 11:33 PM

Eventually both my house and I will be gone, and from a "bigger picture" perspective it won't mean much.

Well it means something now. You should embrace it. :salute: (not saying you aren't or anything)

The Marx Brothers are part of the cultural heritage of the human race and for any part of that to be lost forever through mere ignorance of its existence is a tragedy.

Sure you could say it's only comedy but one thing I have learned is that laughter is a very good thing. In a world where there are so many things with the potential to divide us from each other, laughter unites. :yep:

Laughter and Comedy is among my favorite things in this world. I couldn't even begin to imagine life without it. Laughter does more than unite. Laughter fixes even the worst situations....Laughter helps people cope. That's one benefit of comedy. This last year has been one of the most depressing of my life.

Without comedy and my two best friends I think I would be in a loony bin right now or worse.... :o

Now, to teach you all who Mitch Hedberg is... :arrgh!: The Forgotten King Of Comedy... :03:

Very sad though....he died of drug OD in 2005.... :wah:

magic452

06-22-13, 01:36 AM

My favorite from You Bet Your Life.

If you didn't win any money at the end Groucho would ask a very simple question so you could win something.

Q. What do men's pants and a pool table have in common?

A. From a woman, not what Groucho expected, Balls. :rotfl2::rotfl2:

Live TV Gotta love it.

Magic

u1950

06-22-13, 06:38 AM

This may be my proudest moment ever in the history of this thread.

Some young'un who didn't know who the Marx Brothers were, now knows who the Marx Brothers were. :woot:

Red, you should add A Night At The Opera, A Day At The Races, and Duck Soup to your "must see" movie list ASAP. :yep:

I suggest "The Big Store" also. :har:

Wolferz

06-22-13, 07:28 AM

In Red's defense,
There is a lot that he just hasn't been exposed to...yet.
Vaudeville:up:

I still remember busting a gut the first time my kids saw a black and white TV program. They thought our set was broken.:haha:
The look on their faces when I told them that I was older than color television.Whuuuut? :huh:

Steve is probably older than television. Maybe dirt too.:03:

Kids today probably couldn't operate a pulse dial telephone.

Frau Kaleun's first job?http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/lily-tomlin-ernestine.jpg

Sailor Steve

06-22-13, 07:52 AM

Yes. It is true that I'm younger than most on here...but not the youngest. You still have Cybermat47, Brycey634, and there are more. There is even one who is within a year of my age.
She never said you were the youngest. I'm far from being the oldest here, but I get the brunt of the jokes. Why? Because I post constantly and make no bones about my age. You do the same, so you have to expect some ribbing. Don't be so defensive - nobody's out to get you. :sunny:

I wouldn't consider myself a "young'un" but maybe the more common term "Young Adult" that says I'm old enough that I'm not a kid (I have my moments. :smug: ) but I'm not quite old enough to be a full fledged adult.
You remind me of when my older daughter was eight. I picked them up from their mom's house for a weekend outing. She refered to her 5-year-old sister saying "Do you know what that 'little one' said yesterday?" As I've said before, twenty years from now you're going to ask yourself how you could possibly have thought you knew anything at seventeen.

Sailor Steve

06-22-13, 07:54 AM

Eventually both my house and I will be gone, and from a "bigger picture" perspective it won't mean much.

The Marx Brothers are part of the cultural heritage of the human race and for any part of that to be lost forever through mere ignorance of its existence is a tragedy.

Sure you could say it's only comedy but one thing I have learned is that laughter is a very good thing. In a world where there are so many things with the potential to divide us from each other, laughter unites. :yep:
And that's how one handles a total derailment of her thread with style, grace and class. :rock:

Jimbuna

06-22-13, 08:34 AM

Most definitely :rock:

Wolferz

06-22-13, 09:34 AM

Frau is the epitome of style, grace and class.:up:
I would also add brave and adventurous. A true Buckeye.
Much needed attributes to put up with our shenanigans.:woot:

Red October1984

06-22-13, 09:55 AM

She never said you were the youngest. I'm far from being the oldest here, but I get the brunt of the jokes. Why? Because I post constantly and make no bones about my age. You do the same, so you have to expect some ribbing. Don't be so defensive - nobody's out to get you. :sunny:

I can take it. I get it all the time from Vendor who swears that I'm up past my bedtime everytime I talk to him.

Hey Vendor

Red are you supposed to be in bed by now?!

:har:

You remind me of when my older daughter was eight. I picked them up from their mom's house for a weekend outing. She refered to her 5-year-old sister saying "Do you know what that 'little one' said yesterday?" As I've said before, twenty years from now you're going to ask yourself how you could possibly have thought you knew anything at seventeen.

Haha... and tbh, sometimes.....every once in a while you remind me on an older version of myself if that's possible. :03:

And that's how one handles a total derailment of her thread with style, grace and class. :rock:

She handled it well.... Indeed.

Frau be a master poster in these parts. :arrgh!: