What's up with London? (riots, merged)

[BossMark]

Tottenham riots
http://news.sky.com/home/article/16045049

[papa_smurf]

Was watching this last night on the BBC, sad state of affairs for this country after the troubles of the 1980's.

[Snestorm]

Tribesman's pals.
Look how much diversity and multiculturalism are contributing to society.
Close the immigration door, and open the deportation door.
It's sickening to watch a nation being destroyed by tolerence.

[Paul Riley]

I know what I would do if this was my country! ,makes my blood boil! :stare:
Snestorm - I agree 100% !

And all this because ONE black man was shot by police officers recently!.What happens when white people (usually female,but not always) are mugged and raped and killed by black gangs/hoodies?,nothing! ,they simply brush it under the carpet as usual.
My grandmother and her friend (when they were alive) were once mugged by a gang of black thugs outside their local pub,luckily they were not hurt but they had all their money stolen,what was done about it?,nothing!.
It pi##es me off so much,the blatant bias all over the place for ethnic minorities,pushing their OWN communities aside in the process!.

Sorry,but its got to stop,or we are gonna have REAL trouble before long,this is just the start i'm afraid.

Cheers.

[Snestorm]

I know what I would do if this was my country! ,makes my blood boil! :stare:
Snestorm - I agree 100% !

It is your country.
That's England! Or at least what's left of it.

[Paul Riley]

It is your country.
That's England! Or at least what's left of it.

There is no 'England' anymore my friend,just a lost and confused rats nest of traitors and do-gooders.But there ARE still a few left that love their country for what it WAS,and not what it has become.
We should round up all the politicians that have caused this mess and deport THEM,they are making our lives hell! :nope:

[Tribesman]

Tribesman's pals.
:har::har::har::har::har::har:


There is no 'England' anymore my friend,just a lost and confused rats nest of traitors and do-gooders.
Even without you calling a neo nazi "your friend" that just shows how you are talking a crock of crap.

For example...And all this because ONE black man was shot by police officers recently
someone was shot people rioted wow.
someone was arrested for protesting against a new Tesco.... people rioted, some neo nazi scum were allowed to march ...they rioted, some football game was lost ....people rioted, two gangs of schemie scum had a row...they rioted. one group of people didn't like their neighbours...they rioted
In each of those very recent cases this was "decent" white british people rioting over bugger all...where the hell was your outrage then?
Let me guess, you get sudden selective "outrage" over the "decline" of britain because of peoples pigmentation.

[Paul Riley]

I just want to take this opportunity to commend the brave firemen that have been working tirelessly in putting the huge fires out in Tottenham,which to be quite frank currently looks like the 'London Blitz' at the moment.
Cameron,you ought to be proud of them too you scumbag!,you and your cronies have done NOTHING to alleviate or aid this country!.

Well done firemen! :salute:

[BossMark]

I just want to take this opportunity to commend the brave firemen that have been working tirelessly in putting the huge fires out in Tottenham which to be frank currently looks like the 'London Blitz' at the moment.
Cameron,you ought to be proud of them you scumbag!,you and your cronies have done NOTHING to alleviate or aid this country!.

Well done firemen! :salute:
Agreed, and isn't a coincidence that the last riots in Tottenham took place when the Tory gits were in power :hmmm:

[Sammi79]

As usual a minority of ill-mannered ill-educated anti social opportunistic thugs seized their chance to destroy 2 police cars, a double decker bus, a bingo hall, an Aldi's and some smaller shops whilst making off with all the alcohol and mobile phones they could grab! kids today could do with some direction I think, if only their efforts were being put into more constructive projects.

The police can't win, one minute they're labelled as heavy handed and brutal, the next they're not doing enough. Blame multiculturalism all you want the reason it doesn't work is the patchwork quilt model, allowing groups of one ethnic or religious persuassion to occupy one area as opposed to another. Yes I am aware that for many communities this was their choice, I'm just saying it shouldn't have been allowed. This and the fact that 'faith' schools further segregate our children into polarised groups leads directly to this over dramatic confrontational attitude (a bit like the hormonal imbalance that occurs in adolescants) oh wait most of the idiots on these films are teenagers...

I think the police reacted well, if not as quick as they could, but like I said they're a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't. Significant fact that no rioters were reported injured. These events have absolutely zilch to do with events from two decades past, they are more indicative of a failing of education and government - the current one that is. Quite honestly, a bingo hall and Aldis - rebels without a cause or what? :nope:

[Tribesman]

I just want to take this opportunity to commend the brave firemen
Even this one ?

http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/uniforms_SilverHelmetWornByMasseyShaw.asp

:har::har::har::har::har:damn blacks get everywhere don't they...deport them deport them all for the sake of the great nation where local white people don't riot over bugger all.

[Paul Riley]

:har::har::har::har::har::har:



Even without you calling a neo nazi "your friend" that just shows how you are talking a crock of crap.

For example...
someone was shot people rioted wow.
someone was arrested for protesting against a new Tesco.... people rioted, some neo nazi scum were allowed to march ...they rioted, some football game was lost ....people rioted, two gangs of schemie scum had a row...they rioted. one group of people didn't like their neighbours...they rioted
In each of those very recent cases this was "decent" white british people rioting over bugger all...where the hell was your outrage then?
Let me guess, you get sudden selective "outrage" over the "decline" of britain because of peoples pigmentation.

You know,who do you think you are? calling me or others a neo nazi! ,its better than listening to the left wing dribble that you keep regularly spouting in here!.
I have been watching a lot of your posts and you freely insult people for their beliefs and rights to freedom of thought,who gives YOU the right to flame anyone? :down:
We will all see how far the 'left' goes in this world,because its the 'left' that has caused all this mess and we are all paying for it now! *shameful*

By the way,Snestorm seems like a cool (excuse the pun) bloke,I like him,I dont give a damn what motivates him,some of it is probably the same as what motivates me,and thousands of others around the world if they were to be honest for a change instead of walking around with their tail between their legs all the time.

[Paul Riley]

Even this one ?

http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/uniforms_SilverHelmetWornByMasseyShaw.asp

:har::har::har::har::har:damn blacks get everywhere don't they...deport them deport them all for the sake of the great nation where local white people don't riot over bugger all.

You think that was funny?,because I bloody dont :x:down:

[Tribesman]

You know,who do you think you are? calling me or others a neo nazi!
If the boot fits:rotfl2:

By the way,Snestorm is a cool bloke,I like him,I dont give a damn what motivates him,its probably the same as what motivates me and thousands of others if they were to be honest instead of walking around with their tail between their legs all the time.
So are you one of those EDL "patriots" who decided to riot?:har::har::har::har:something really needs to be done about those people who just riot, it really is dragging the nation down.

its better than listening to the left wing dribble that you keep regularly spouting in here!.

It is funny isn't it, my post rips your "complaints" to pieces and you are completely unable to deal with even a single issue raised.
It is rather telling about the validity of your "complaints":yep:

[Paul Riley]

Agreed, and isn't a coincidence that the last riots in Tottenham took place when the Tory gits were in power :hmmm:

All MPs today are the same pal,I f'ing hate the lot of them! disgusting ignorant leeching greedy moronic parasites,that dont give one DAMN about their own people! :down::down:

[Paul Riley]

If the boot fits:rotfl2:


So are you one of those EDL "patriots" who decided to riot?:har::har::har::har:something really needs to be done about those people who just riot, it really is dragging the nation down.


It is funny isn't it, my post rips your "complaints" to pieces and you are completely unable to deal with even a single issue raised.
It is rather telling about the validity of your "complaints":yep:

Listen to me you self righteous idiot,the only reason I am not REALLY reacting in the way I want to to your nonesense is because of the fear of getting an infraction or a possible ban,because believe me,I would tear you limb from limb if I could,verbally at the very least.
So,you ought to get rid of this 'cocky' know-it-all attitude,and smell the god damn coffee! :stare:
Go and grow some potatoes,you should be good at that for starters.

And by the way,the multiple :har::har::har::har::har: all the time just shows how desperate YOU are in defending YOURSELF against ME,because if you had any sort of substance to your comments you wouldnt need to try so hard in getting that point across,and its rather immature to use them all the time.

[Betonov]

All MPs today are the same pal,I f'ing hate the lot of them! disgusting ignorant leeching greedy moronic parasites,that dont give one DAMN about their own people! :down::down:

You just described the LEFT, the RIGHT and anything in between

[Paul Riley]

You just described the LEFT, the RIGHT and anything in between

Yes,they are all the same in the end,self serving and dont have the peoples interests at heart.They are scum (predominantly the 'left'),like the sort of dirt you get around your toilet for instance.
The 'right' for instance would only make problems worse by further alienating people,the problems are too deep and infested now to initiate any sort of deportation program.

[Sammi79]

Hmmm I thought Mr David Lammy MP had his head screwed on right with his statement actually. >

http://www.davidlammy.co.uk/Statement_on_the_events_on_Tottenham_High_Road

After watching the statement read out live for the BBC and seeing the calm conviction and firmness with which he spoke, hearing the well reasoned and intelligent things he had to say during some quite depressing heckling, I am compelled to point out that not all MPs are as bad as you seem to think they are Paul Riley.

[Tribesman]

Listen to me you self righteous idiot,the only reason I am not REALLY reacting in the way I want to to your nonesense is because of the fear of getting an infraction or a possible ban,
Hey Paul why are you mentally unable to deal with any of the issues raised?
They are fairly easy issues to address.

believe me,I would tear you limb from limb if I could
You sound like one of those people who would riot whren you get confused or angry.

Go and grow some potatoes,you should be good at that for starters.
:har::har::har::har::har::har:
wow that is so clever

[Paul Riley]

Hey Paul why are you mentally unable to deal with any of the issues raised?
They are fairly easy issues to address.


You sound like one of those people who would riot whren you get confused or angry.


:har::har::har::har::har::har:
wow that is so clever

Whatever you say :nope:
Remember what I said above,I (and many others) have an arm tied behind my back here...my axe is sharp and ready for action when the time is right :03:

[Tribesman]

Remember what I said above
How could I forget, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
You really showed yourself up in very short order, well done:rotfl2:

[Paul Riley]

How could I forget, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
You really showed yourself up in very short order, well done:rotfl2:

Why doesnt anyone have a go at you for being a bloody twat,winding folk up all the time? you obviously are itching for a fight or something,one that you probably wouldnt win.
Just drop it now,youve made your point,and you bore the hell out of me :down:
You Irish are so smug,i've learned that over the years.

[Snestorm]

As usual a minority of ill-mannered ill-educated anti social opportunistic thugs seized their chance to destroy 2 police cars, a double decker bus, a bingo hall, an Aldi's and some smaller shops whilst making off with all the alcohol and mobile phones they could grab! kids today could do with some direction I think, if only their efforts were being put into more constructive projects.

The police can't win, one minute they're labelled as heavy handed and brutal, the next they're not doing enough. Blame multiculturalism all you want the reason it doesn't work is the patchwork quilt model, allowing groups of one ethnic or religious persuassion to occupy one area as opposed to another. Yes I am aware that for many communities this was their choice, I'm just saying it shouldn't have been allowed. This and the fact that 'faith' schools further segregate our children into polarised groups leads directly to this over dramatic confrontational attitude (a bit like the hormonal imbalance that occurs in adolescants) oh wait most of the idiots on these films are teenagers...

I think the police reacted well, if not as quick as they could, but like I said they're a bit damned if they do, damned if they don't. Significant fact that no rioters were reported injured. These events have absolutely zilch to do with events from two decades past, they are more indicative of a failing of education and government - the current one that is. Quite honestly, a bingo hall and Aldis - rebels without a cause or what? :nope:

What's wrong we're not mixing ourselves into extinction fast enough for you?
It's not happnning, slick!

But you did get one thing right.
The government is at fault,
for letting all these turds in!

How to destroy a nation, and more importantly, it's people!

[Paul Riley]

How could I forget, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
You really showed yourself up in very short order, well done:rotfl2:

Showed myself up?,I dont think so,I still have my pride pal,at least I am not afraid to speak my mind in the face of such adversity.
You should consider yourself lucky,that I even had the interest and gaul (ha,you dirty Gauls! LOL) to engage in this stupid conversation in the first place.

[Paul Riley]

Sorry about all this folks,what started out as a serious discussion about the events in Tottenham turned out into a slugging match between two very immature people,me included! *I ought to learn dammit!*

[Tribesman]

Showed myself up?,
Yes , you showed that you are unable to deal with simple issues and are racist both in terms of skin colour and nationality and display the very traits which you were originally trying to condemn.
In fact you couldn't have shown yourself up more if you were trying to give a lesson in how to show yourself up in 5 easy steps:yeah:

[Paul Riley]

Yes , you showed that you are unable to deal with simple issues and are racist both in terms of skin colour and nationality and display the very traits which you were originally trying to condemn.
In fact you couldn't have shown yourself up more if you were trying to give a lesson in how to show yourself up in 5 easy steps:yeah:

I was trying to condemn what? skin colour? racism? as I said,whatever you say,you're obviously an expert on such things so,good luck to you :up:

[Snestorm]

Yes , you showed that you are unable to deal with simple issues and are racist both in terms of skin colour and nationality and display the very traits which you were originally trying to condemn.
In fact you couldn't have shown yourself up more if you were trying to give a lesson in how to show yourself up in 5 easy steps:yeah:

Why don't you tell people the truth, Tribesman?

You're not anti-racist.
You're anti- white!
Commie scum makes me sick.

[Paul Riley]

Why don't you tell people the truth, Tribesman?

You're not anti-racist.
You're anti- white!
Commie scum makes me sick.

That much is true.Commies...yuk.
I fancy watching Stalingrad today,love the snow tank battle scene...BOOM! :arrgh!:

[Morts]

Tribesman's pals.
Look how much diversity and multiculturalism are contributing to society.
Close the immigration door, and open the deportation door.
It's sickening to watch a nation being destroyed by tolerence.
Wow, you're really delusional.
People are rioting because someone got shot, not because of diversity or multiculturalism.
Fail :damn:

[Oberon]

Christ, this thread is starting to look like Tottenham :haha:

I've been expecting this for some time, and I dare say there'll be more of it. Still, provides jobs in clearing the mess up and rebuilding work I guess.

[BossMark]

Christ, this thread is starting to look like Tottenham :haha:

I've been expecting this for some time, and I dare say there'll be more of it. Still, provides jobs in clearing the mess up and rebuilding work I guess.
There will more to come tonight me thinks

[Paul Riley]

They are expecting more tonight :nope:
The mongrels had better not come up here onto my street or i'm gonna start beating my spade into an axe!,think I could use the dustbin lid as a shield?
It has been on the simmer for ages,looks like we are reaching melting point,and probably for the best in the long run.

[Paul Riley]

Christ, this thread is starting to look like Tottenham :haha:

I've been expecting this for some time, and I dare say there'll be more of it. Still, provides jobs in clearing the mess up and rebuilding work I guess.

You are right,it could provide some new jobs.

[Hottentot]

The mongrels had better not come up here onto my street or i'm gonna start beating my spade into an axe!,think I could use the dustbin lid as a shield?

Who the heck do you think you are? A Knight Templar?

[BossMark]

You are right,it could provide some new jobs.
Yep I bet the builders and company are rubbing their hands at the work that will be coming up :D

[Oberon]

I am getting some flashbacks you know...Tory government in power, strikes, riots... :hmmm:

[Onkel Neal]

Name-calling, trolling, racism, this thread is a casebook study on how not to effectively react to a riot.

[Oberon]

Name-calling, trolling, racism, this thread is a casebook study on how not to effectively react to a riot.

Case study of a riot I'd say... :hmmm:

[Rockstar]

I still like ya Tribesman.

[Tribesman]

People are rioting because someone got shot, not because of diversity or multiculturalism.

No, people are rioting because they had a chance to.
Like with all the ones I mentioned earlier which were "white" british it is just a case of saturday or public holiday, with crowds of people and any pathetic excuse to kick off with violence or do some robbing.

The small peaceful vigil was just a handy excuse for behavior which is as old as Britain and has been regular throughout its history before there was any notion of multiculturalism or any other such nonsense.
People who are using this single instance to push their pet hates can only do so by ignoring all the evidence which shows their idea to be complete nonsense

[Paul Riley]

Who the heck do you think you are? A Knight Templar?

No,they were Christians AND they started off in France,I am not Christian OR French,my beliefs go way further back than the KT.Religion and politics,not my cup of tea sunshine.
Any more clever questions?

[Hottentot]

Any more qestions?

Yes. But out of respect towards Neal and all the others, I won't ask them.

[Paul Riley]

Yes. But out of respect towards Neal and all the others, I won't ask them.

Wise move,me neither.

[Tribesman]

Any more clever questions?
That was a clever question, a rather nasty one too, but you didn't get it:rotfl2:
You naughty boy Hottentot.:03:

[Hottentot]

It was a genuine question. Genuinely worried at least.

[Tribesman]

It was a genuine question. Genuinely worried at least.
Yes, it isn't just polar bears that have made the news recently in Norway. I suppose polar bears are a different sort of white power though.:03:

[Sammi79]

What's wrong we're not mixing ourselves into extinction fast enough for you?
It's not happnning, slick!

Could you elaborate on that statement please, I don't follow the logic that 'mixing' is causing our extinction. Genetically speaking the entire world should be encouraging native Africans to spread their genes the world over since they contain 95% of the genetic variation of the entire species, which is what we're going to need when the big killer bug comes around, or when environmental and climatic changes exceed our capacity to adapt.


But you did get one thing right.
The government is at fault,
for letting all these turds in!

How to destroy a nation, and more importantly, it's people!

I'm pretty sure that the majority of the people causing this violence were born in Britain and speak English as their first language, in actual fact they are as British as you are mate. And yes they could be considered 'turds' along with all the sheltered depressed welfare dependant screw ups that our education system churns out. Nationality has nothing to do with it. Criminals are criminals, scroungers are scroungers. People who work hard, work hard.

[Penguin]

I do not know who I despise more: morons protesting the killing of a wannabe gangster who was dumb enough to shoot a cop, or imbeciles who make a connection between skin color and behavior.

[Jimbuna]

Looks like feelings have simmered down now so can we please keep it that way?

Nothing wrong in debating current affairs and differing opinions without resorting to some of the behaviour displayed on the previous thread pages.

Thanking you all in anticipation of your cooperation :sunny:

[Betonov]

I blame the recession. Too much time and not enough money to spend that time in constructive ways. People start to think. Not think of new ways to cure cancer or re-route the plumbing so you're using rainwater for toilets.

No, that paranoya thinking, you slowly start to realise, the goverment is working against you. That you're taxes are not spent on fixing potholes. Then when you're most vulnerable the media starts to fill your mind with BS. And the mess in your head starts to ferment. A torrent of thoughts starts to clear. Yes, yes, the bumblebees, the damn bumblebees. The soft furry fat versions of bees. It's a ploy, they're after us. Slowly picking us off one by one, blaiming the wasp or a hornet. Leaves us defenceles, unprepared. And it's the goverments fault, showing us the bumblebee as a kind neighbour, a friendly newcommer to the community, while in reality they're plotting against us.

I've got to fight them, expose them... [off to burn down the municipality seat]

[Oberon]

Small bout of trouble in Enfield. Unknown if it's going to progress into anything else.

[Highbury]

Looks like feelings have simmered down now so can we please keep it that way?

Just one peaceful moment in the riot I'll bet.... :nope:

http://cdn02.okcdn.okmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Vancouver_Kissing_Couple_June17newsnea.jpg

:D

[Sailor Steve]

for letting all these turds in!
All of them? No good ones at all?

gaul (ha,you dirty Gauls! LOL)
Unfortunately "gall" and "Gaul" have nothing to do with one another.

a slugging match between two very immature people,me included!
At least you're honest. I like that. :sunny:

Why don't you tell people the truth, Tribesman?

You're not anti-racist.
You're anti- white!
Commie scum makes me sick.
I can think of a lot of things to call Tribesman. "Anti-White" and "Commie" are not among them. I'm becoming curious as to where all this hate comes from. As far as I can see, underneath it all we really are all the same. Nationalism and racial "superiority" are the cause of most of our problems, not "turds", "tolerance" or even "commies".

mongrels
Now you're starting to make me wonder.

Name-calling, trolling, racism,
You left out hating and baiting. It's very grating. :D

[Oberon]

Police in force at Enfield, and the local railway station is either closed or just heavily guarded, info is sketchy.

As always Twitter seems to be the place to follow events, BBC and Sky seem to be lagging behind things a bit, perhaps to try and avoid enflaming tensions with coverage...a bit of a case of shutting the door after the horse has bolted in the age of social media I'm afraid.

However, it's too early to call this event at Enfield a riot, at the moment it's little more than a disturbance. Nevertheless the police will be clamping down heavily on any flare ups after last night, one thing you can say for the force, they learn quickly. :yep:

[Oberon]

In other news...have we been importing riot vans from the states? Someone just posted a pic of this heading out to Enfield:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/scaled.php?tn=0&server=737&filename=jepwf.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Never seen one of those in the UK before... :doh:

[yubba]

I'd athought they would have been blue and white with UN written on them.

[Oberon]

I'd athought they would have been blue and white with UN written on them.

Lord no, there would have been no arrests made if that was the case! :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Police in force at Enfield, and the local railway station is either closed or just heavily guarded, info is sketchy.

As always Twitter seems to be the place to follow events, BBC and Sky seem to be lagging behind things a bit, perhaps to try and avoid enflaming tensions with coverage...a bit of a case of shutting the door after the horse has bolted in the age of social media I'm afraid.

However, it's too early to call this event at Enfield a riot, at the moment it's little more than a disturbance. Nevertheless the police will be clamping down heavily on any flare ups after last night, one thing you can say for the force, they learn quickly. :yep:

Yep, always good to 'learn quickly'.....let us hope it happens here on SubSim too :sunny:

[Oberon]

Yep, always good to 'learn quickly'.....let us hope it happens here on SubSim too :sunny:

No promises Jim, lots of smoke and very little fire around, imports from Finland, OTH you know how it is.

[Jimbuna]

No promises Jim, lots of smoke and very little fire around, imports from Finland, OTH you know how it is.

Rgr that Jamie :yep:

[Tribesman]

Police in force at Enfield, and the local railway station is either closed or just heavily guarded, info is sketchy.

Why are those people who got arrested trying to loot a jewelers and chemist in Enfield not black, I could have sworn someone said it was negros:03:

However, it's too early to call this event at Enfield a riot
Same with the events in brixton so far, turns out it was two groups of yoofs throwing bottles at each other.

one thing you can say for the force, they learn quickly.
Possibly not, looks like bad timing on making the latest announcement on the shooting, you would have thought after menendez got killed they would have learned to try and get the basic things straight before they made statements.

[Oberon]

If the latest reports on the shooting are true then it'll really put the wind up people, and no mistake. Latest reports indicate that it's mainly opportunistic looting across the area now, and some reports are indicating that there is looting in Brixton, Edmonton and Walthamstow. There's also reports of rioters moving from area to area by car which is making them hard to track. There's been at least one stabbing, but not fatal. All in all though it's not as bad as Tottenham, the police have had a better response time in defusing large scale trouble, however that has meant that those responsible have now split into smaller scale looting/raiding parties and spread out across the area, which makes it very hard to get to. One cannot secure every single HMV in London!

[Snestorm]

Genetically speaking the entire world should be encouraging native Africans to spread their genes the world over since they contain 95% of the genetic variation of the entire species, which is what we're going to need when the big killer bug comes around, or when environmental and climatic changes exceed our capacity to adapt.

I'm pretty sure that the majority of the people causing this violence were born in Britain and speak English as their first language, in actual fact they are as British as you are mate.

Nationality has nothing to do with it.

You realy are an anti-white turd, aren't you?
Do I detect a black-supremacist?

If I move to Japan and have a child with my wife, does that make the child japanese?
I hardly think so, and I hardly think the japanese would think so.
Where one lives, is changable. What one is, is not.
I'm not british, and I'm not your mate.

Nationality has everything to do with it.
Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners. Europe for everybody?!
Over my dead body!

[Stealhead]

You know for guys like Snestorm there is a perfect site where you can talk to people like minded all day all night and you can say what you truly feel and not violate that forums rules.

It is Subsim for White Supremacists it is called Stormfront http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_%28website%29. You should take a look at it Snestorm you will cry with tears of joy.Though I strongly suspect that you are already a member and are merely spreading your ideologies though not overly successfully.

By the way just because people do not agree with the idea of white supremacy that does not make them "commies".Any person who follows any "one race is superior" we should all be separated is a fool.I"d actually like to see an experiment where they actually did have a group of a "pure" race and had them all live in one large city.They would have the same problems any other society has.

[Sailor Steve]

You realy are an anti-white turd, aren't you?
Do I detect a black-supremacist?
What you fail to detect in your quest for hatred is someone who sees the truth - that there is only the human race. Your need to blame everything on someone else just to feel adequate (I wouldn't say superior) is beginning to wear thin. To find the real enemy you need to look in the mirror.

[Stealhead]

What you fail to detect in your quest for hatred is someone who sees the truth - that there is only the human race. Your need to blame everything on someone else just to feel adequate (I wouldn't say superior) is beginning to wear thin. To find the real enemy you need to look in the mirror.

Well seeing as mirrors a tools made by the muds to confuse the pure Aryan mind Snesstorm does not own one.

If you ask me the real "powers that be"(who are various humans not one given race) their most effective weapon is divide and conquer.

[Snestorm]

(I wouldn't say superior)

Neither do I. Thank you.

[Hottentot]

Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.

Yes! And Britannia for the Britons! Down with the Jutes! Drive them back to the sea! Who is with me?!

[Sailor Steve]

Yes! And Britannia for the Britons! Down with the Jutes! Drive them back to the sea! Who is with me?!
Let's see. I come from Saxon stock, so I shouldn't have invaded Angle-Land. I have a recorded ancestor who was actually a Norman, so I guess I invaded Anglo-Jute-Saxon-Briton Land a second time. My first recorded American ancestor was actually a Brit who somehow managed to get here right in the middle of The Revolution. My people killed the horrible Red Injuns, except for the two who were of that persuasion. I had ancestors on both sides of the Civil War, including one who owned slaves. I'm English, German and native, and who knows what else.

I guess you could say that I'm the lowly immigrant who shouldn't be there, and the evil oppressor of the masses, all at the same time. I'm as mongrel as they come. The fact that I look the way I do means nothing to me. I'm a musician, which means my heroes are people like Jimi Hendrix and Chuck Berry, Carlos Santana and Eric Clapton, Chet Atkins and Stanley Jordan. Love only my "own kind" and half those names disappear. I would love to play bass for B. B. King just once.

One of my closest friends had a grandfather who came straight from Sicily, joined the army and fought Moros in the Philippines, then turned around and became the big man in the Utah mafia (gasp!) in the 1920s. So he's an evil foreigner too, except he gets no slack from any side, because technically he's white. And even as a Sicilian he's an outsider. His family name indicates that his ancestors emigrated to Sicily from Russia.

Another good friend is black. But he's all American and hates Africans. At least he's intelligent and humble enough to admit his hatred is irrational. We became friends after we found out we're both interested in all different kinds of history. His favorite line: "You can tell me any kind of racist joke, as long as you make me laugh."

So my biggest intolerance is for people who are intolerant. Setting yourself up as different only isolates you from a lot of good people. People who just might be better than anybody you hang out with now.

[Tribesman]

If I move to Japan and have a child with my wife, does that make the child japanese?

It would depend entirely on Japans citizenship laws and your own legal status


Nationality has everything to do with it.

Brilliant, the master race has gone on through the nonsense of pigmentation to an entirely made up category as being definitive.


Latest reports indicate that it's mainly opportunistic looting across the area now
Oberon, that is all it really was in the first place. There are always element that are ready to jump at any opertunity for violence or thieving, there always has been and there always will be.

[jumpy]

If the latest reports on the shooting are true then it'll really put the wind up people, and no mistake.


Are you referring to what I heard on R4 this morning - about the bullet recovered from the injured policeman's radio in the original shooting incident? It was described as 'police issue'. There's zero mention of this on the bbc news website so far and could potentially change the whole situation, freebooters notwithstanding.

[Sammi79]

If I move to Japan and have a child with my wife, does that make the child japanese?
I hardly think so, and I hardly think the japanese would think so.
Where one lives, is changable. What one is, is not.
I'm not british, and I'm not your mate.

Nationality has everything to do with it.
Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.

Hmmm it appears you have been suspended so I reply in the hope that you will lurk and see this anyway. Your post contains some serious contradictions and as insulting as you tried to be, only serves to reveal your own true 'colours' as it were. I will try and answer your question as it is reasonably put. If your child 1) is born in Japan 2) learns Japanese as the first language 3) goes to Japanese school 4) grows to the age of adulthood in Japan, I would have to ask him/her what nationality they felt they belonged to and I'd put money on them saying they thought of themselves as 'Japanese' even missing out 2) i.e you enforced English as the first language. If they then stayed in Japan and had children of their own, would you still think of your grandchildren as not Japanese?

Now to your contradiction sir. You state 'Where one lives is changeable' well not if you have your way huh, Mr 'Africa for africans. Asia for asians. Middle East for middle easteners.' so where YOU live is changeable, but where someone who came from a different country is concerned they should all stay where they are? That is a really grotesque hypocrisy you're carrying with you there.

I must say that I am sorry for my incorrect assumption of your nationality being British, It's just you seem so passionate about the subject it was an easy mistake. Do you live in Britain then perhaps? I think I should also explain that in English the word 'mate' though normally used as a term of affection, can like in the case of my previous post, be used as an overtly polite term to include someone whom one finds offensive, mate.

Back on topic, again nationality has nothing to do with the continuing disturbances in central London, its basically a bunch of unruly kids vandalising whatever happens to be nearby, mixed with a few probably older criminal types taking the opportunity to loot whatever they can, I am being depressed at the amount of people trying to justify these criminal actions by blaming the 'strained relationship' between the police and the community, this is simply not true, these kids are out of control because we as a society we are too light on them. Kids are smart - thay are genetically pre-disposed, even designed to manipulate the adults around them. Teachers can no longer discipline children in schools. Kids under 18 can't be convicted like adults. The kids learn this and then abuse it to their own ends, quite naturally as they were in effect born to do. This anti-social behaviour then carries on into young adulthood having never been properly checked. Our education system and government is worthy of most of the blame, and to the parents the rest.

[Oberon]

Are you referring to what I heard on R4 this morning - about the bullet recovered from the injured policeman's radio in the original shooting incident? It was described as 'police issue'. There's zero mention of this on the bbc news website so far and could potentially change the whole situation, freebooters notwithstanding.

Indeed it is what I refer to. It seems there is the possibility that Mr Duggan did not fire at police at all, alternatively, there is also the possibility, which cannot be ruled out, that Mr Duggans weapon was police issue and stolen from them in the past. It's too early to say yet...however I'd wager that most people will latch onto the former possibility to disregard the latter...and that means there's going to be even more anger amongst protestors in Tottenham, and the freebooters are going to feel even more justified at attacking a society that in their minds does little more than shoot at them periodically.

[Paul Riley]

As predicted it looks like trouble is flaring up again this evening with riots spreading throughout various areas of the capital and a number of vehicles also reportedly burnt.Its also becoming more apparent as the scenes unfold that a lot of the officers sent in to deal with the disgusting anarchists have not been given adequate training for such events.
In my opinion soldiers (or possibly the TA) should be sent in now to assist the police,but how the hell can they when this evil moronic government is getting them killed in the middle East?.
I think this is going to spread eventually throughout the entire country,then we'll be in deep trouble!.

[STEED]

Everything the police dose gets slammed by the PC lobby that has caused our nation problems, round them all up and place them in the middle of the scum who are out to break the law. Just watch them shout out for help from the police.


I say its time to send in the scoops!

(Soylent Green)

[Paul Riley]

Everything the police dose gets slammed by the PC lobby that has caused our nation problems, round them all up and place them in the middle of the scum who are out to break the law. Just watch them shout out for help from the police.


I say its time to send in the scoops!

(Soylent Green)

To be honest i'm gutted mate at whats happening to our country :cry:
The enemy within,has been for years.They have basically waited (and it makes sense from a criminal's/terrorist's perspective) until the country is at its lowest ebb both militarily and financially to then engage in all out guerilla style attacks.

[Tribesman]

the disgusting anarchists

So its anarchists now,I bet that is a relief to them nasty immigrants and londoners with dark skin.

In my opinion soldiers.....

So in your opinion the police don't have enough training in law enforcement when it comes to public order offences so you want to send in the army who errrr..... have even less:rotfl2:

the hell can they when this evil moronic government is getting them killed in the middle East?.

Interesting, where exactly in the middle east is your evil moronic government getting its soldiers killed?
Did some squaddie get squashed under a crate of duty free cigs in Cyprus or something?

They have basically waited until the country is at its lowest ebb both militarily and financially to then engage in all out guerilla style attacks.
Yes its an evil plan to get teenagers to bring down Sainsburys and Halfords so they can take over the world of groceries and car accesories

[Paul Riley]

So its anarchists now,I bet that is a relief to them nasty immigrants and londoners with dark skin.



So in your opinion the police don't have enough training in law enforcement when it comes to public order offences so you want to send in the army who errrr..... have even less:rotfl2:


Interesting, where exactly in the middle east is your evil moronic government getting its soldiers killed?
Did some squaddie get squashed under a crate of duty free cigs in Cyprus or something?

God not you again,get lost! You arent drawing me in for a second time :stare:
You know,there would have been a time when you would have been shot for what you have said about Britain.You support the IRA do you?

Sorry folks,and moderators.

[Tribesman]

You arent drawing me in for a second time
There is no need to draw you in at all, I simply comment on what you have chosen to write yourself and it speaks for itself

Like for example.....
You know,there would have been a time when you would have been shot for what you have said about Britain.
...which is definately away with the fairies material

[Betonov]

Oh for crying out loud, an attack within ???

It's a mob of vandals, idiots and drunks, not a coordinated assault bent on taking over the country. If that was the case every British town or city would have been in flames by now.
My hometown is like this after every hockey game

[Todaro]

Ciao, mi chiamo Todaro e faccio molte congratulazioni per questo forum! :-)

[Paul Riley]

There is no need to draw you in at all, I simply comment on what you have chosen to write yourself and it speaks for itself

Fine,now go away.Youv'e already made it clear that you are both anti-white (if not then you could have surprised me) and anti-British,and i've made it clear that you wont draw me into another round of frustration like last night.If you have nothing to say that would support London during this crisis then I suggest you take your inflamatory talk elsewhere,not everyone thinks like you,thank god.

[Paul Riley]

Oh for crying out loud, an attack within ???

It's a mob of vandals, idiots and drunks, not a coordinated assault bent on taking over the country. If that was the case every British town or city would have been in flames by now.
My hometown is like this after every hockey game

Look,just think what you want,ok? :x

[Tribesman]

Oh for crying out loud, an attack within ???

Yes its an evil conspiracy.

If that was the case every British town or city would have been in flames by now.
I was surprised it took so long for Peckham to get in on the act, I thought the chance of some thieving and violence would be just the ticket, after all it goes on in a small scale most weekends

[Paul Riley]

You know,ive really enjoyed my stay here at Subsim,met some pretty decent folks,yet i'm starting to have doubts about my place here :nope:
I hope things revert to how they WERE in here pretty soon.
Disgusting how some people get some sort of sexual arousal from upsetting and baiting people just because of their opinions,which may be totally alien to theirs,it isnt a crime to be bloody different,in fact its a strength.

Thanks Tribesman,real proud of you.

[Betonov]

Yes its an evil conspiracy.

By the bumblebees no doubt, damn furry fat versions of bees, they're evil I tells you

[Sailor Steve]

Fine,now go away.
Now that's really gonna work.
:rotfl2:

Telling someone to go away is an invitation for him to stay.

anti-white (if not then you could have surprised me) and anti-British,
Are your true colors starting to show? I don't particularly care for Tribesman's tactics, but this time he more and more seems to be correct.

and i've made it clear that you wont draw me into another round of frustration like last night.
And he's already succeeded.

If you have nothing to say that would support London during this crisis then I suggest you take your inflamatory talk elsewhere,not everyone thinks like you,thank god.
He's not being inflammatory, he's specifically baiting you. It's working, and I'm wondering if that isn't a good thing in this case.

[Paul Riley]

Now that's really gonna work.
:rotfl2:

Telling someone to go away is an invitation for him to stay.


Are your true colors starting to show? I don't particularly care for Tribesman's tactics, but this time he more and more seems to be correct.


And he's already succeeded.


He's not being inflammatory, he's specifically baiting you. It's working, and I'm wondering if that isn't a good thing in this case.

Whatever,more useless information for me again,thanks for kindly educating me o' great one. (bows in submission to Steve's grandeur)

[Tribesman]

Thanks Tribesman,real proud of you.
Thats OK , could you perhaps explain what exactly I have said about Britain and why I should have been shot for saying it?

After all it must be a pretty striking comment about Britain I made

[Sailor Steve]

You know,ive really enjoyed my stay here at Subsim,met some pretty decent folks,yet i'm starting to have doubts about my place here :nope:
Or you could just stay out of General Topics. Or not respond to baiting.

I hope things revert to how they WERE in here pretty soon.
Disgusting how some people get some sort of sexual arousal from upsetting and baiting people just because of their opinions,which may be totally alien to theirs.
This is how GT has always been. Not all of it, and not all the time. But sometime, somewhere, something like this is going on most of the time. As for opinions, thre is different, there is alien, and there is downright scary. Snestorms opinions have turned out to be the latter sort. Are yours?

Thanks Tribesman,real proud of you.
He's always been this way. Have you?

[Paul Riley]

Moderators:

Is it possible to block people,I mean to filter out posts made by specific people?,as I have a small list quite rapidly growing.It would certainly help to prevent this continued 'flaming' :nope:

Thankyou.

[Tribesman]

By the bumblebees no doubt, damn furry fat versions of bees, they're evil I tells you
You may have a point there, if you look carefully you can see the bees are half black, its them sort of mongrels which are the cause of it all:03:

[Betonov]

You may have a point there, if you look carefully you can see the bees are half black, its them sort of mongrels which are the cause of it all:03:

Black AND yellow, african-asians, the worst kind

[Paul Riley]

Are yours?




Thats my business,my secrets are certainly not something i'm going to share with people on an internet forum,look how Tribesman has already tried to 'pry' me open to expose the 'apparent' demon inside me,its not going to work.

[STEED]

Forum baiting?

There is a answer, ignore list, sorted.

[Tribesman]

Black AND yellow, african-asians, the worst kind
This conspiracy is bigger than we expected.

[Paul Riley]

*walks out of 'general topics' room while frustratingly slamming the door!*

:damn:

Where is my UBoat?

"...torpedo LOS!"

[Paul Riley]

Forum baiting?

There is a answer, ignore list, sorted.

Does it render the posts invisible by that person?
Thanks for the tip.

[Schroeder]

Moderators:

Is it possible to block people,I mean to filter out posts made by specific people?,as I have a small list quite rapidly growing.It would certainly help to prevent this continued 'flaming' :nope:

Thankyou.
That would be the infamous ignore list.;)
Click on the user name of a member. Select user lists and then add to ignore list. I would recommend to keep the list short though as simply ignoring other opinions is no way of dealing with them (though I'll admit that I have a few names on my list as well).
*Edit*
It will show you that the member has posted when you read through a thread but the content of the post won't be shown unless you click on the "show post" button.

[Paul Riley]

That would be the infamous ignore list.;)
Click on the user name of a member. Select user lists and then add to ignore list. I would recommend to keep the list short though as simply ignoring other opinions is no way of dealing with them (though I'll admit that I have a few names on my list as well).

A friendly German...oh the irony,I get attacked by the Irish instead LOL
Hope i'm not on your ignore list :yep:

Thanks a lot mate :salute:

[STEED]

Does it render the posts invisible by that person?
Thanks for the tip.

The post will be collapsed so you can not see it.

[Paul Riley]

The post will be collapsed so you can not see it.

Thanks :yep:

[Paul Riley]

That would be the infamous ignore list.;)
Click on the user name of a member. Select user lists and then add to ignore list. I would recommend to keep the list short though as simply ignoring other opinions is no way of dealing with them (though I'll admit that I have a few names on my list as well).
*Edit*
It will show you that the member has posted when you read through a thread but the content of the post won't be shown unless you click on the "show post" button.

Sorry,where is the 'user lists'? ,cant seem to find it :-?
Thanks again.

[Tribesman]

So now that conspiracy is sorted, back to the real issue which was hijacked by some thieving youngsters.

Proceedures..... given the seemingly conflicting accounts of events why was there such a big gap between the incident and meeting the family.
In such a situation where the police cannot answer the questions as the IPCC have been called in should they still make the press statements(which often turn out to be highly flawed) or should the IPCC get more directly involved a lot quicker

[STEED]

Sorry,where is the 'user lists'? ,cant seem to find it :-?
Thanks again.



Quick Links tab, scowl down to user control panel click that then under Settings & Options click Edit Ignore List.

[Oberon]

At least the BBC are actually reporting on it tonight, for once.

Well, here is how it is going to be. The gap between the rich and poor widens and this is what happens. It's not pretty, and it's got nothing to do with race, nothing at all. What it is to do with is the Haves and the Have nots, and the lack of regard for society, which in their eyes, has continually defecated on them.

So, Dave, here's your Big Society. Hope you like it. :rock:

[Schroeder]

Sorry,where is the 'user lists'? ,cant seem to find it :-?
Thanks again.
Ah, sorry, forgot one step. You click on the user name and then on view public profile. There you'll find the user lists.

[Oberon]

http://a.yfrog.com/img612/6379/7mxcyz.jpg

:doh:

Latest police advice is for people to stay off the streets unless they have business to...so...basically...a self-imposed curfew.

[STEED]

So, Dave, here's your Big Society. Hope you like it. :rock:

He's on holiday.

[Sailor Steve]

Thats my business,my secrets are certainly not something i'm going to share with people on an internet forum,look how Tribesman has already tried to 'pry' me open to expose the 'apparent' demon inside me,its not going to work.
So sharing small bits of your actual opinions is a good thing? I have no secrets, and will tell you any sordid thing you care to ask. If you're going to hint at how you really feel but don't want people to know, then you should expect them to guess wrongly. If you don't want people to know what you really think, why hint at it?

Quick Links tab, scowl down to user control panel click that then under Settings & Options click Edit Ignore List.
Or just click 'UserCP' in the upper left of your this page and go from there. :sunny:

[Oberon]

He's on holiday.

Now there's a shocker. Now if only the Tea Boy had some balls he could show some leadership whilst his master is away...but no... :damn: I should have voted for the Monster Raving Loony Party...

[Oberon]

Quick Links tab, scowl down to user control panel click that then under Settings & Options click Edit Ignore List. 08-08-2011 01:15 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Sigmund_Freud_LIFE.jpg/200px-Sigmund_Freud_LIFE.jpg

[Sailor Steve]

Fixed, thanks, but only so it would make sense. Please don't change yours - I'm comfortable with my mistakes.

[Jimbuna]

This is starting to develop into another 'interesting' evening.

[STEED]

Now there's a shocker. Now if only the Tea Boy had some balls he could show some leadership whilst his master is away...but no... :damn: I should have voted for the Monster Raving Loony Party...

The tea boy stepped in and gave his speech. :zzz::zzz::zzz:

As for that dipstick Cameron he is in bed with the EU, result no action.

[Sailor Steve]

This is starting to develop into another 'interesting' evening.
That's just your inner cop talking. :O:

[Oberon]

Actually, it was Steeds mistake to begin with, which is nowhere near as much fun...although yours is now scoll, but it's closer than before so I'll let it pass. :haha:

Getting back to the topic at hand. I must admit I've not seen riots and looting like this in the UK for some time, and the fact that it's going on for longer than a day or two...and now has apparently spread to Birmingham as well.

There's going to need to be a lot of questions asked when the dust from this settles, and it shouldn't be a case of "How do we stamp down on this?" or we'll drift along into a Gestapo state before we know it...it should be a question of "Why? Why is this happening after some twenty years of relative quiet?" The answers, providing they come from the people in the city and not from Middle Class folk in Buckinghamshire, should set some light on the gulf between classes in the cities.

[Oberon]

This is starting to develop into another 'interesting' evening.

This keeps up Jim you might get a phone call. Hope you've kept your uniform ironed... :doh:;)

[STEED]

This is starting to develop into another 'interesting' evening.

Evening jim, nice day at the pub? :DL

[Sailor Steve]

After looking at it again, I removed it altogether. I don't know how that second one got down into my part of the text. The "Or just click..." part was all I wrote.

Truly fixed now, so there! :O:

[STEED]

Actually, it was Steeds mistake to begin with, which is nowhere near as much fun...although yours is now scoll, but it's closer than before so I'll let it pass. :haha:

Getting back to the topic at hand. I must admit I've not seen riots and looting like this in the UK for some time, and the fact that it's going on for longer than a day or two...and now has apparently spread to Birmingham as well.



Bernie Grant...The police received a bloody nose. 1982

Cameron seats back sunning himself while scum are having a field day.

[Egan]

I can't help feeling that Boris Johnstone should have been on a flight back from his holidays on Sunday morning instead of waiting until today.

However, Here is the response of Lee Jasper, Ken Livingstone's Director for Policing and Equalities when Red Ken was Mayor:

Last night during the uprising in Tottenham, we dispatched a legal team offering legal advice and representation to all those who were arrested.

There will be community meetings this week to discuss the events of last night and how best to respond, in which we will be involved: details will be announced as soon as possible.

Thursday evening there will be a meeting called 'Recession, Riot and Resistance' - venue and time to be announced, but in the meantime please put the date in your diaries and keep Thursday evening free.

Please continue to promote the March 4 Justice 4 Demetre Fraser to be held next Saturday 13th August. Thanks to all those raising awareness at carnivals and events this weekend.

(Posted by admin)

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So, one of the main guys in Livingstone's Mayoral team, a man who will probably be back on Ken's ticket at the next London elections, thinks that the correct response to all this is to help the rioters deal with the police. Hmmm.......Nevermind those who have lost their homes and livelihoods. Also note the use of the word 'Uprising'.

I actually don't know what I expected from someone connected with Ken Livingstone.

[Jimbuna]

That's just your inner cop talking. :O:

This keeps up Jim you might get a phone call. Hope you've kept your uniform ironed... :doh:;)

It's kinda funny in a way because I can remember standing in Parliament Street in the early eighties during the Toxteth riots and this twunt of a Superintendant ordered the line to 'stand fast' whilst we were being showered with petrol bombs.

He was of course 20 yards or so back issuing orders through a megaphone and the guy next to me said "Just watch what happens next" and sure enough a snatch squad appeared, broke through the ranks and grabbed a few of the lead elements on the opposite side of the street.

We knew there were army folk on the rooftops with night vision and image capture equipment.

The strange thing at the time was the fact that these 'snatchers' had no identifying clothing on....wonder who they were or where they were from?

[Jimbuna]

Evening jim, nice day at the pub? :DL

Enjoying a few home brews courtesy of Kratos...bless his Scottish cotton socks :DL

[Paul Riley]

He's on holiday.

I wish somebody would kill that b#####d and his treacherous cronies :damn:
Fancy taking bloody holidays while they should be here sorting this mess out!.
Its getting worse by the minute,riots now spreading into Birmingham,then it will be Lincoln,then Nottingham,then Sheffield :o ...you get the picture,a nice tidemark of scum moving up the island.

[Paul Riley]

Quick Links tab, scowl down to user control panel click that then under Settings & Options click Edit Ignore List.

I dont seem to have an Edit Ignore List option after browsing through the above.
Sorry :oops:

[Betonov]

He was of course 20 yards or so back issuing orders through a megaphone and the guy next to me said "Just watch what happens next" and sure enough a snatch squad appeared, broke through the ranks and grabbed a few of the lead elements on the opposite side of the street.

We knew there were army folk on the rooftops with night vision and image capture equipment.

The strange thing at the time was the fact that these 'snatchers' had no identifying clothing on....wonder who they were or where they were from?

Now thats cohones, running into an angry mob and arresting some hotheads.

[Sailor Steve]

I dont seem to have an Edit Ignore List option after browsing through the above.
Sorry :oops:
Left side of the links bar, right next to Downloads. UserCP. Scroll down to Settings and Options. Last option is Edit Ignore List.

[Paul Riley]

I dont seem to have an Edit Ignore List option after browsing through the above.
Sorry :oops:

In fact I dont think it matters now,I probably wont need it,I can always ignore the persons myself,just dont bite back *yap yap yap!* :sunny:

[STEED]

I dont seem to have an Edit Ignore List option after browsing through the above.
Sorry :oops:

Odd.

Did you try the quicker way as Steve said? Click User CP...

Settings & Options
Edit Signature
Edit Email & Password
Edit Options
Edit Ignore List

[Paul Riley]

Left side of the links bar, right next to Downloads. UserCP. Scroll down to Settings and Options. Last option is Edit Ignore List.

Got in now,thanks for that.

[Paul Riley]

Odd.

Did you try the quicker way as Steve said? Click User CP...

Settings & Options
Edit Signature
Edit Email & Password
Edit Options
Edit Ignore List

Cheers mate,I got it now.

[Oberon]

It's kinda funny in a way because I can remember standing in Parliament Street in the early eighties during the Toxteth riots and this twunt of a Superintendant ordered the line to 'stand fast' whilst we were being showered with petrol bombs.

He was of course 20 yards or so back issuing orders through a megaphone and the guy next to me said "Just watch what happens next" and sure enough a snatch squad appeared, broke through the ranks and grabbed a few of the lead elements on the opposite side of the street.

We knew there were army folk on the rooftops with night vision and image capture equipment.

The strange thing at the time was the fact that these 'snatchers' had no identifying clothing on....wonder who they were or where they were from?

Apparently Big Society Dave is coming back to chair a Cobra meeting, so you might get the heavies coming out if this carries on. :yep:

The fire in Croydon is...wow...looks like something out of the Blitz! The bloody tram tracks are on fire! How does that work? :doh:

[Betonov]

The fire in Croydon is...wow...looks like something out of the Blitz! The bloody tram tracks are on fire! How does that work? :doh:

Wooden sleepers :hmmm:

[STEED]

Apparently Big Society Dave is coming back to chair a Cobra meeting

I'm back and the first thing is do not panic I'm in control...Cameron.

We're boned.

[Oberon]

Wooden sleepers :hmmm:

It's quite a recent development though, it shouldn't have wooden sleepers...the only thing I can think of is rubber and wiring underneath the track.

[Oberon]

You know, I was just saying to the guys on Teamspeak whilst watching that furniture store fire in Croydon, watching the smoke on the street being drawn into the fire as the firemen struggle to stand upright in the fierce draft...it makes you wonder just what it must have been like for the firemen during the Blitz when it was entire city blocks on fire, not just a street corner, and with bombs still falling.
Blitz firemen - Unsung heroes.

[STEED]

Blitz firemen - Unsung heroes.

My late Grandfather was one of them in both Blitz's 40-41 44-45.

[Oberon]

My late Grandfather was one of them in both Blitz's 40-41 44-45.

Massive salute to him Steed, a true hero. :salute:


Just a small aside, spotted this on the twitter feeds. CNN reporter in full warzone gear reporting in Peckham, I don't know whether to laugh or cry:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/368007444.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1312836834&Signature=MPhLQMyfAlRO0LNXiKyYcM86n%2Bw%3D

[STEED]

Massive salute to him Steed, a true hero. :salute:


Thank you. :up:

[Betonov]

It's quite a recent development though, it shouldn't have wooden sleepers...the only thing I can think of is rubber and wiring underneath the track.

Asphalt also burns under high temperature. If the sleepers are covered by asphalt that is. Rubber sounds like it, at least here, railway crossings have rubber covers over sleepers.

[STEED]

BREAKING NEWS:Prime Minister David Cameron is boarding a plane to return to the UK after a further night of violence in London

Too late. :nope:

[Paul Riley]

My late Grandfather was one of them in both Blitz's 40-41 44-45.

Hey my grandad was a fireman during the war :yep:,helped to fight fires during the Sheffield blitz,which was even worse than the firestorms that ravaged London during the war.
I think Coventry got hit the worst during the war,I think.

RIP Grandad,and all the other heroes that lost their lives during the blitz.

[Paul Riley]

Too late. :nope:

What the hell is Cameron's vile presence going to do as far as these cowardly wretches marauding and looting the country are concerned?
Cameron is about as useful as having holes in your lungs! :damn:
He wants stringing up,quartering and his head set on London bridge to serve as a warning,just like they did with that other nuisance William Wallace.

[Jimbuna]

Problems are starting to erupt in Birmingham now....what city next?

A plea to you all....debate and voice your thoughts and opinions by all means but please be respectful of your peer groups opinions as well.

[Paul Riley]

Problems are starting to erupt in Birmingham now....what city next?

A plea to you all....debate and voice your thoughts and opinions by all means but please be respectful of your peer groups opinions as well.

I for one hope it doesnt spread further north,or we may all be in dire peril,and that may not be such a far-fetched assumption before long.I mean,who could stop these rampaging hordes doing as they please and at will?,the police are seriously stretched as it is,Cameron doesnt give a s##t and most British people dont have the stomach for these sort of things like they did during WWII.
If it continues to worsen even more Jim we could be screwed for real this time. :cry:
I saw earlier footage of an officer lying out cold on the floor while some of his comrades tried desperately to protect his body and fend of straggling attacks by ravenous hyenas.
What a bloody nightmare this is developing into.

[STEED]

Get the Tanks out!

[Jimbuna]

Cameron is returning back to the UK :yep:

[Paul Riley]

Get the Tanks out!

Damn right! I said the same thing earlier.They could even bolster the wavering police lines with poison gas howitzers and SAS counter terrorist units.I'll never forget the Iranian embassy siege during the 80s.I'd like to see them wipe the grins from their filthy faces by those guys then.
SAS kick ROYAL bottom! :rock:

A tribute to the SAS! by far the most professional badass group of guys on planet Earth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSmy4AnM7TI

[STEED]

I wonder what the Olympics committee makes of this. :hmmm:

[Paul Riley]

Cameron is returning back to the UK :yep:

We dont want him mate,he can take his phoney arse back to where he was on bloody holiday.

[STEED]

BREAKING NEWS
Labour leader Ed Miliband cutting short holiday and says he is "shocked by the scenes we are seeing in parts of London"

Too late. :nope:

[Tribesman]

Get the Tanks out!
Are you in Beijing??

They could even bolster the wavering police lines with poison gas howitzers and SAS counter terrorist units.
Better and better.

[Jimbuna]

We dont want him mate,he can take his phoney arse back to where he was on bloody holiday.

I'm not wanting to be drawn into anything of a controversial nature on this thread because it does need moderating but whatever your opinions of him are...he is currently the elected leader (Queens First Minister) of this country and as such he will make the initial decisions as to how the situation will be dealt with.

[jumpy]

Well, if all this topic has done is show me two potentials for my ignore list :doh: that's a good thing er..?

Disaffected poor, freebooters... all part of the recession package, nothing to see here.

Meanwhile what may have been important as regards this story developing, is lost in the general furore, bit like parts of this thread really :arrgh!:

[Tribesman]

I'm not wanting to be drawn into anything of a controversial nature on this thread because it does need moderating but whatever your opinions of him are..
Opinions seem to be confused, in very short order its gone from ....why is he on holiday, cut his head off, why has he come back from holiday:doh:

[Paul Riley]

I'm not wanting to be drawn into anything of a controversial nature on this thread because it does need moderating but whatever your opinions of him are...he is currently the elected leader (Queens First Minister) of this country and as such he will make the initial decisions as to how the situation will be dealt with.

Sorry Jim.

[Paul Riley]

God the ignore function is a godsend :sunny:
Going back to the events tonight,does anyone live near the affected areas?
Also,I think one way the government could solve Britain's crime levels is to employ vigilantes,seriously,they could take the extra strain from the police and help to maintain order.Think about it,some of these guys love to fight as it is,and paying them a handsome reward would be even more incentive to smash the faces in on these revolting criminals.
I heard one bloke on the TV describing how he had lost his furniture shop which was generations old,I almost wept myself for him.

[Paul Riley]

Well, if all this topic has done is show me two potentials for my ignore list :doh: that's a good thing er..?

Disaffected poor, freebooters... all part of the recession package, nothing to see here.

Meanwhile what may have been important as regards this story developing, is lost in the general furore, bit like parts of this thread really :arrgh!:

I would hope you werent referring to me above,? if not,then I apologize.

[Paul Riley]

I wonder what the Olympics committee makes of this. :hmmm:

There will be fireworks alright,guarantee it.And good luck to em,Britain are useless in the olympics,they couldnt win an egg and spoon race! :rotfl2:
Shame...but true i'm afraid.

[Paul Riley]

Opinions seem to be confused, in very short order its gone from ....why is he on holiday, cut his head off, why has he come back from holiday:doh:

Sure glad I found the ignore button,tis great dont you agree? :sunny:

[Oberon]

It's completely out of control now, the police are outnumbered and overstretched. Incredible...absolutely incredible...this must dwarf any previous London riot in terms of scope. If this continues into a fourth night the Met riot squad are going to be a desperate need of reinforcements, this is just too widespread for them to respond to every single flare up...and even when they do respond the rioters just melt away before they can be arrested.

I can scant believe it.

[Paul Riley]

It's completely out of control now, the police are outnumbered and overstretched. Incredible...absolutely incredible...this must dwarf any previous London riot in terms of scope. If this continues into a fourth night the Met riot squad are going to be a desperate need of reinforcements, this is just too widespread for them to respond to every single flare up...and even when they do respond the rioters just melt away before they can be arrested.

I can scant believe it.

I personally think there should be at the very least a military presence now,the country is practically under siege!,and it needs lifting,by force of arms.
Whats your take on this idea?

[Paul Riley]

A chief inspector for the Met commented a while ago saying that CCTV footage they had of offenders would aid them in making arrests.Tell me,how do you go about making arrests against idiots wearing hoods and ski masks?,their identities are concealed.
I fully support the police in their almost impossible role here but I thought that statement was a bit odd.

[Oberon]

I personally think there should be at the very least a military presence now,the country is practically under siege!,and it needs lifting,by force of arms.
Whats your take on this idea?

A step on a very slippery slope, that's my take, the road to hell is paved with good intentions mate, and if you bring in martial law, that's going to only inflame the situation further. Plus, most of our military is overseas at the moment anyway, so the only real forces we could muster are the TA.

I would wager that tomorrow during the daytime there is going to be a massive influx of police forces from across Britain into London, as there was during the G-20 protests, and then there's the possibility of a curfew being put in place officially tomorrow. There's also the possibility of water cannons being brought in from Ireland. I'd wager that the government will not bring in the armed forces, but they will go all they can up to before that point.
Besides, there's not a great deal the army could do anyway, even if they opened fire on looters, they would melt away into the side streets and go somewhere else. You ask any soldier what it's like trying to fight in a city environment, particularly when you'll have your hands tied up in red tape because it's the capital city of the UK, it would be a nightmare and would do very little to actually stop it unless you take a Syrian approach to matters and open fire on anything that moves and when we get to that point, well we're no longer worthy of being a modern nation.

Hopefully this will burn itself out tonight and tomorrow will be peaceful...but I'll be interested what conclusions this COBRA meeting comes to...I just hope that they don't use this situation for political gain and just make things worse...although I suspect, given this political party...they probably will. :damn:

[Oberon]

A chief inspector for the Met commented a while ago saying that CCTV footage they had of offenders would aid them in making arrests.Tell me,how do you go about making arrests against idiots wearing hoods and ski masks?,their identities are concealed.
I fully support the police in their almost impossible role here but I thought that statement was a bit odd.

Not all of them are wearing masks, this one isn't:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/368046249.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1312845652&Signature=fN6vBgrdKL2MLtGcuPDa4Mtntbg%3D

[Oberon]

Some images from the Boston Big Picture:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/08/london_riots.html

[Paul Riley]

A poor elderly woman has just been on Sky News crying and audibly very shaken,she awoke to noises in her home and one of these scumbags was stood in her bedroom.The police were later called,there was no response.I wasnt surprised,it is physically impossible to be in two places at once.

Poor old woman.

[Paul Riley]

Some images from the Boston Big Picture:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/08/london_riots.html

Good god,its like the blitz all over again! :o
Some of the scenes on the news are very disturbing now,the speed and severity of the violence.I dont like how this is unfolding.

[Paul Riley]

Not all of them are wearing masks, this one isn't:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/368046249.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1312845652&Signature=fN6vBgrdKL2MLtGcuPDa4Mtntbg%3D

He wants doing away with,and no,not because he's black,but because he is a heartless criminal with no respect for people's lives or property.I mean come on,we all have our gripes with this government etc but we dont all go around like this neanderthal ripping everything to pieces just because they get a bee in their bonnet,as usual!.
And this annoying 'gun' thing they do with their bloody hands all the time really gets me mad (a###holes)
And man is he fugly.

[Tribesman]

Sure glad I found the ignore button,tis great dont you agree?
Does it magicly stop you writing nonsense:har::har::har::har::har:
Obviously not....."Good god,its like the blitz all over again!". .......a few burned buildings and vehicles, no sign of nazi bombers destroying whole swathes of the city and no big piles of dead bodies being pulled from the rubble

[Paul Riley]

Does it magicly stop you writing nonsense:har::har::har::har::har:

Maybe its nonesense to you,but not to the poor buggers getting their homes and businesses looted and burned down.I'd like to see you call it nonesense to their faces.

:har::har::har::har::har: <--- I dont think anything i've EVER wrote was that funny :06:

[Tribesman]

So much for that ignore function eh:rotfl2:

[Paul Riley]

Does it magicly stop you writing nonsense:har::har::har::har::har:
Obviously not....."Good god,its like the blitz all over again!". .......a few burned buildings and vehicles, no sign of nazi bombers destroying whole swathes of the city and no big piles of dead bodies being pulled from the rubble

One or two others have made references to these events and the blitz today,did you ridicule their posts too?.Or is it because I have a great viking longship on my sig and you dont :smug:
NOTE - the blitz reference was related to the amount and scale of these fires which would infact remind a lot of war survivors of the blitz,not a reference to the Luftwaffe or swathes of corpses piled in the streets.God you love to twist things around and undermine serious stuff.This is a VERY serious situation now and ridicule on ANY level no matter how indirect is not appropriate.I am actually surprised that someone hasnt pulled you to one side about some of your comments and for baiting me earlier,trolling do they call it?.
But I guess i'm trolling right now so i'd better stop with this tone.

[Paul Riley]

By the way,check the news right about now,the amount of burning vehicles and buildings would number more than "a few".
Outrageous.

[Tribesman]

NOTE - the blitz reference was related to the amount and scale of these fires
Amount and scale.
A couple of fires in a couple of buildings in a few different locations:hmmm:


Oberon what you said earlier about the firearm, it appears now it was a converted replica and the only shots fired in the "shootout" were by the police, CO19 are apparently saying an officer fired two shots and one of those hit his colleague.

[Paul Riley]

And no sooner do I speak and it has now spread to Liverpool,many miles away from London.
So,who still thinks this is nothing and just me exagerating?,because to be honest i'm getting a bit scared now,and no doubt many others are.It is clear the police are unable to do anything here,they are being routed every time the rioters attack :cry:
I fear the outcome to all this,really I do.

Jim (if you're there mate) do you work for the Newscastle constabulary?.Has there been any word about all this at your end?,and do they have any advice for people in case it should flare up there?.

[Paul Riley]

Amount and scale.
A couple of fires in a couple of buildings in a few different locations:hmmm:


Oberon what you said earlier about the firearm, it appears now it was a converted replica and the only shots fired in the "shootout" were by the police, CO19 are apparently saying an officer fired two shots and one of those hit his colleague.

Just pray Ireland isnt next,you never know with these animals now,we are all at risk.

[Paul Riley]

Amount and scale.
A couple of fires in a couple of buildings in a few different locations:hmmm:


Oberon what you said earlier about the firearm, it appears now it was a converted replica and the only shots fired in the "shootout" were by the police, CO19 are apparently saying an officer fired two shots and one of those hit his colleague.

Look Tribesman,I want to end this petty feud,its obvious we have VERY different views here and they should really be kept private,well the ones that seem to inflame people the most,religion,race,politics etc.
Whats more important are these shocking events tonight.
Deal?

[Tribesman]

So,who still thinks this is nothing and just me exagerating?,because to be honest i'm getting a bit scared now,and no doubt many others are.It is clear the police are unable to do anything here,they are being routed every time the rioters attack
At a guess I would say there is a fair chance that it is just your age telling, to me these occurances are nothing new, nothing shocking and nothing surprising.
They are sad, but that is about it.

[Paul Riley]

At a guess I would say there is a fair chance that it is just your age telling, to me these occurances are nothing new, nothing shocking and nothing surprising.
They are sad, but that is about it.

My age?! what on earth do you mean? :o
Well I can tell you now,that I have NEVER witnessed events like these in my entire life,and my mother said she hasnt either.The scale is staggering.No,I would think these riots are now unprecedented in Britain.

*dreads turning on the TV at 8:00am*

[Paul Riley]

Night folks.

See you all in hell tomorrow :nope:
Hope they manage to stem the flow.

Wait a minute,it IS tomorrow! *sigh*

[Tribesman]

My age?! what on earth do you mean?
It means exactly what it says.
Well I can tell you now,that I have NEVER witnessed events like these in my entire life
Exactly.

No,I would think these riots are now unprecedented in Britain.

Not in the slightest, you don't have to go back far at all to find bigger more widespread and more destructive ones. But if you want to go back before very recent times you can find hundreds of examples where property damage was immense and hundreds of people were killed.

[Armistead]

Seems they want to burn it down. Just read a small article, sounds bad, but don't see it making much news. Report said it started over police shootings, but the larger masses are joining in over the economy, cut to social programs, etc...

Just how bad is it....

[AJ94CAP]

It's making news here on the east coast. I'm not sure but the pictures and video is looking pretty ugly over there across the pond.

[Torplexed]

Looks like there is already a thread on this subject.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186467

[Paul Riley]

I see,i'm not old enough to remember.

Could you give me a list of events in British history where they were comparable to what we are witnessing this very moment?,as far as the speed and scale of it all is concerned.I am not interested in facts concerning casualty figures as there hasnt been any deaths in these riots yet other than the loser that got shot with the police.I am mainly focusing here on the general levels of anarchy and damage around the country.I may decide to look them up and 'educate' myself.I know there was the so called 'winter of discontent' but I dont know enough about that in order to make a valid comment.

[Paul Riley]

Its becoming very serious now,multiple flare ups around the country,with the latest in Liverpool,however police report only minor disturbances here,much smaller than the chaos erupting all around London.Scores of buildings,shops and vehicles have been completely gutted,shops and residences looted,with around 20 officers already hospitalised over the last 48 hours IIRC.On many occasions the police have been completely overwhelmed resulting in a rout.They desperately need reinforcements!.We need troops on the streets now,if only to bolster the at times wavering police lines.

:nope:

[Paul Riley]

Looks like there is already a thread on this subject.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186467

There is,and it can get pretty explosive in there i'll tell you.Not for the faint of heart thats for sure :o

[Platapus]

Man the entire world just needs to sit down, have a little coffee and some cake and relax for a while. Sheesh. :doh:

[Paul Riley]

Man the entire world just needs to sit down, have a little coffee and some cake and relax for a while. Sheesh. :doh:

There is no coffee or cake,the rioters looted it all.

[Rockstar]

Google is mapping this mess.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8689355/London-riots-all-incidents-mapped-in-London-and-around-the-UK.html



.

[Lord_magerius]

Yeah the riots in Liverpool are on my friend's front door, literally.
Latest update from him.
"Mint i'm bloody wide awake and in work at 9 and my bins are on fire in the middle on the road. Yay thank you angry mob your destruction of my bins will surely get you every thing you are rioting for. Stupid immature a bastards."

[Highbury]

These are just London

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots_in_London

[Reece]

I think times like this police need to break out the machine guns with rubber bullets!:hmmm:

[Sailor Steve]

Wow! Who knew there were that many black folks in london in 1189?

[gimpy117]

England has a seriously pissed off youth. Seeing what our future is projected to be for my generation....I can't say I am surprised to see this happen.

[Flaxpants]

England has a seriously pissed off youth. Seeing what our future is projected to be for my generation....I can't say I am surprised to see this happen.

With you on that 100%:salute:- not surprised here either. I left the UK 11 years ago, and to me at least it was patently obvious then that things were going awry. The level of anger and number of incidents of random violence and vandalism is far beyond anything I have witnessed in any other country I have ever visited (and I've been about).

Something is seriously wrong in old blighty, and with the future outlook I can only conclude that it will get worse. The only solution I see would surely need to involve a sea-change in the way people think, as right now many of the UK's youth simply don't give a toss- about anything.

[Betonov]

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/london_riots/bp8.jpg

This hooligan looks, how do you say, white, caucasian ???
I thought this was an imigrant uprising :hmmm:

[Feuer Frei!]

This hooligan looks, how do you say, white, caucasian ???
I thought this was an imigrant uprising :hmmm:
Well, immigrants can be white. Or Caucasian.

[Betonov]

Well, immigrants can be white. Or Caucasian.

I know. I was sarcastic :03:

[Castout]

The stupid on the streets, without a cause without thinking and it's all for nothing. The worms.

The stupid in the office, egoistical insecure bastards who believe he was the almighty on earth. The wolves ganging up on the defenseless.

I'd say the stupid on the streets are the lesser evil of the two.
That said mankind are now broken. A sick society. Functional chaos at best but chaos never achieves anything sustainable. The only thing sustainable in chaos is a sustainable descend to destruction.

People need spirituality, a real one.

[Feuer Frei!]

Hopefully once the Premier League kicks off, things will calm down.

[Onkel Neal]

I think times like this police need to break out the machine guns!:hmmm:

Fixed!

[papa_smurf]

Riots are now spreading like wildfire (no pun intended).

0816: Robin Brant Political correspondent, Downing Street
What this boils down to for the prime minister and the government is who is in charge? There is a perception when you look at the pictures is it isn't the police or the politicians who are in charge, it's the looters.

[Reece]

Fixed!
:har::har:

[Tribesman]

I know there was the so called 'winter of discontent' but I dont know enough about that in order to make a valid comment.
That was a big industrial dispute.....
There are many many dozens of industrial disputes in Britain that have been very violent with quite a bit of rioting and burning and looting, but that isn't one of them.

This hooligan looks, how do you say, white, caucasian ???
I thought this was an imigrant uprising
Maybe he is Irish, you know they are smug, support terrorists and hate white british people :03:

[danlisa]

I think times like this police need to break out the machine guns.

Fixed!

Yeah, not really.:-?

This situation was always going happen. There's only so much that can be taken away from people before they start to rise up in protest. Saw this coming years ago.

Unfortunately, there's no recourse for anyone to follow to appease this.

The most I see happening is a curfew in major cities.

While I don't agree with the violence, burning and general terror being brought down by the participants, I do agree and support their reasons. This countries government will do well to remember where the true 'power' resides in this country.

Some yank once said "..that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing..."

[BossMark]

I blame Cameron and his goons

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/82741,news-comment,news-politics,tottenham-riots-a-result-of-tory-spending-cuts-london-enfield-brixton-conservative

[Betonov]

This was no race riot. The riot in Tottenham has destroyed 26 years' of work in building trust between the police and the community, says David Lammy, the MP for Tottenham, in the Times (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article3117863.ece). He was there in 1985, when young black men rioted on the Broadwater Farm estate over the death of a woman during a police raid.
"The 1985 riots were race riots: black youth fighting the police. The weekend's violence was not a race riot, it was an attack on the whole of the Tottenham community, organised on Twitter. That's why so many of the people arrested weren't from Tottenham. The grief of one family must never be hijacked to inflict grief on others."


This part of the article is interesting.

[kiwi_2005]

Bring back Citizen Smith! Power to the people.

http://i53.tinypic.com/1087prs.jpg

[Penguin]

That was a big industrial dispute.....
There are many many dozens of industrial disputes in Britain that have been very violent with quite a bit of rioting and burning and looting, but that isn't one of them.


To me it looks like the burning of buildings are on a much bigger scale than in previous riots, maybe I have this perception just because we live in the video age and a burning building is always an eye-catcher. However there seem to awful lot apartment buildings (flats) which are set on fire.


Maybe he is Irish, you know they are smug, support terrorists and hate white british people :03:

Hey, I thought you hate all Whites! :timeout::D


I blame Cameron and his goons

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/82741,news-comment,news-politics,tottenham-riots-a-result-of-tory-spending-cuts-london-enfield-brixton-conservative

Looks like a good article, BM, will read it all when I'm at work ;). I've read in another article that you cannot compare Tottenham '85 with todays Tottenham, as much money went into this quarter. What do you think about that? Did something change there or are the situations comparable? Not talking about the budget cuts of your current government, they look similar to Maggie's.



Note to all you British: Us non-Limeys are extremely thankful if you post some good news sources. As you already stated: the usual suspects we are used to read to get informed about Britain (BBC, guardian, etc.), don't do a great job atm...

[HunterICX]

Maybe he is Irish, you know they are smug, support terrorists and hate white british people :03:

He doesn't look like a Leprechaun to me :O:

HunterICX

[Paul Riley]

I think times like this police need to break out the machine guns with rubber bullets!:hmmm:

I said the same thing but got ridiculed for my opinion.The army needs to be sent in to help the police and bring back confidence in decent law abiding citizens around the UK,me included.

[Paul Riley]

Absolutely outrageous :down:

[TarJak]

Send Jimbuna down there with his nightstick and give those soft soothern gobshytes a taste of Northern hospitality!

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/8/6/1249556372094/Riot-police-clash-with-G2-001.jpg

[Paul Riley]

Send Jimbuna down there with his nightstick and give those soft soothern gobshytes a taste of Northern hospitality!

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/8/6/1249556372094/Riot-police-clash-with-G2-001.jpg

Stinking bloody anarchists,they MUST be severely punished for their crimes,it has gone from a few sporadic attacks to practically outright war wih running battles between them and the police,and the scary thing is its not just shops and businesses being targeted,elderly people in their own homes are being terrorized.Our army is stretched in the middle East,and we need them here NOW!.
I really fear these are clear signs of the final collapse of Britain and its way of life.

Its in the hands of the gods now :nope:

[Morts]

Just because someone has white skin they may not 'think' like a white/caucasian person,they may even HATE being a white person and feel more comfortable with non-whites,they are just as bad as these black hooligans,if not worse :down::down:
I am very disappointed at whats happening.
Think like a white person ? Are you seriously claiming that people act and think differently based on skin color ?

[Betonov]

Think like a white person ? Are you seriously claiming that people act and think differently based on skin color ?

It's true you know.
When my skin is red from the sun I'm cranky, but when it's black from shufelling coal I'm even more irritated.

[Penguin]

Why not use tactical nukes on the protestors? :-?
I know some of you mean it as a joke. Well, it ain't.

You know that there are some measurements the police can take between standing around and doing nothing and firing at your own people? Historical speaking it has been a great success for the British to use this method in Boston, eh?

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Has been, is and will always be true.




This situation was always going happen. There's only so much that can be taken away from people before they start to rise up in protest. Saw this coming years ago.

Unfortunately, there's no recourse for anyone to follow to appease this.

The most I see happening is a curfew in major cities.

While I don't agree with the violence, burning and general terror being brought down by the participants, I do agree and support their reasons. This countries government will do well to remember where the true 'power' resides in this country.

Some yank once said "..that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing..."

I agree when we would talk about social protests. I see it only indirect as ones. Yes, many people who riot atm get the short end of the stick. However, looters are just plain thieves, nothing cool about stealing from people who try to make a little living. Burning down your own houses, homes of others, little shops is no protest, just plain idiocy.

Now if they would riot in the bank district and light some banks... :smug: But in this case, you would "surpisingly" suddenly see massive police intervention...

[Paul Riley]

Why not use tactical nukes on the protestors? :-?
I know some of you mean it as a joke. Well, it ain't.

You know that there are some measurements the police can take between standing around and doing nothing and firing at your own people? Historical speaking it has been a great success for the British to use this method in Boston, eh?

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Has been, is and will always be true.




I agree when we would talk about social protests. I see it only indirect as ones. Yes, many people who riot atm get the short end of the stick. However, looters are just plain thieves, nothing cool about stealing from people who try to make a little living. Burning down your own houses, homes of others, little shops is no protest, just plain idiocy.

Now if they would riot in the bank district and light some banks... :smug: But in this case, you would "surpisingly" suddenly see massive police intervention...

Thankyou :up:
At least not everyone in here is slagging Britain off.
And you are right,this is NOT a joke,it is gravely serious now.

[Hottentot]

It's true you know.
When my skin is red from the sun I'm cranky, but when it's black from shufelling coal I'm even more irritated.

Yeah, red is the worst. I always get an urge to start a collective farm after being burned by the sun.

[Paul Riley]

I am surprised they havent torched the government areas in London (houses of parliament,Downing Street for starters!),after all,if they have a problem with how this country is being run (and most of us do,but dont resort to violence or arson) why not vent their anger on the 'root' of the problem?.Fancy burning shops and innocent people's homes down,its disgraceful! :x
The army really should be recalled from the middle East and be used instead for their 'primary' role,home defence.Dont forget some of our troops may have families in the affected areas and they would not hesitate to defend these areas with their lives.
Please bring our lads back home Cameron!.

[Penguin]

Thankyou :up:
At least not everyone in here is slagging Britain off.
And you are right,this is NOT a joke,it is gravely serious now.

well... thanks, but I don't think you got my whole point.

I was referring to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Boston_Massacre_high-res.jpg/510px-Boston_Massacre_high-res.jpg

I spoke out against using lethal force against unarmed protestors. Believe me: a billy club can be enough to cool you down - I've been on the receiving end.:shifty:

I find it strange when people point their fingers at arsehole states like Syria or China on the one hand, but demand the same measurements when a bunch of chavs are out of control.

The same measurements you demand against people you despise can be used against yourself the next time you protest.

btw: can you explain what "slagging off" means? Something like letting somebody down? I'm not too familiar with British slang - I only know what a slag is ;)

[Penguin]

When I am red, I get the urge to perform a rain dance to cool me off.

[Tribesman]

Yeah, red is the worst. I always get an urge to start a collective farm after being burned by the sun.
Thats a winner for post of the year:yeah:

[TarJak]

Slagging off is basically the act of speaking about someone in a derogatory manner.

I agree that we need to be very cautious about what we wish for. When there are some oiks running down your street causing bother, then you need a way of sorting them out without killing them.

[Paul Riley]

Slagging off is basically the act of speaking about someone in a derogatory manner.

I agree that we need to be very cautious about what we wish for. When there are some oiks running down your street causing bother, then you need a way of sorting them out without killing them.

What do we do though against armed thugs prepared to kill innocent people in their own homes? because if the government doesnt start toughening up then this could escalate into a calamity that could affect all of us.They are obviously not scared of the police so,what do you do?,let them carry on until they have had their fill?.
The military road is the only option available now,there needs to be a visible deterrant in place that is prepared to use lethal force...IF necessary.

[Tribesman]

Our army is stretched in the middle East,and we need them here NOW!.

As was pointed out before, your army is not in the middle east apart from its regular postings on Cyprus.

At least not everyone in here is slagging Britain off.

No one is slagging off Britain, apart from those who are blaming Britain for the riots...like yourself.

The military road is the only option available now,there needs to be a visible deterrant in place that is prepared to use lethal force...IF necessary.
Wow. Talk about lack of perspective


well... thanks, but I don't think you got my whole point.

Exactly, calling out the troops over rioters has generally been a disaster throughout British history and has had negative repurcusions which last long after the regular bouts of violent sillyness are over.

[Paul Riley]

As was pointed out before, your army is not in the middle east apart from its regular postings on Cyprus.


No one is slagging off Britain, apart from those who are blaming Britain for the riots...like yourself.


Wow. Talk about lack of perspective



Exactly, calling out the troops over rioters has generally been a disaster throughout British history and has had negative repurcusions which last long after the regular bouts of violent sillyness are over.

Our troops are in Cyprus?! are you off your head? :o
They are fighting and getting maimed DAILY in Afghanistan,Iraq and various other areas.
I cant believe you actually made that statement.

[Tribesman]

Our troops are in Cyprus?! are you off your head? :o
They are fighting and getting maimed DAILY in Afghanistan,Iraq and various other areas.
I cant believe you actually made that statement.
Whereas I can believe you made that statement:har::har::har::har::har:
Check the date, check an atlas then check your countries current military deployments. :know:

[Penguin]

Slagging off is basically the act of speaking about someone in a derogatory manner.

I agree that we need to be very cautious about what we wish for. When there are some oiks running down your street causing bother, then you need a way of sorting them out without killing them.

thanks, learned a new expression today:up:

I do not quite get the police tactics to be honest, I have read some statements. Does not all sound bad - in theory. Practical speaking, some people are open to sensible arguments and measurements, some people have an authoritarian character and understand only an autoritharian answer. This is why for example so much social work is a failure, for certain people being reasonable and letting things slip is seen as a weakness.

I am not only speaking for myself, but for most of us, when I say that we were not always open to rational arguments when we were adolescents. Sometimes we just had to be shown the ropes - or something to cool off a little...

I am not saying that the police should not keep on walking the way to work with, not against the community, but they should also draw a line in the sand. I think it is somehow even more a FU sign to the community to stand and do nothing when the houses in the neighborhood are set on fire or the little corner shop is being looted. It can boost the feeling that nobody gives a damn about them.

[max-peck]

As was pointed out before, your army is not in the middle east apart from its regular postings on Cyprus.

As far as I know, the last of the British troops were withdrawn from Iraq earlier this year.

British troops (along with those from many other nations) are still engaged in Afganistan

Is Afganistan part of the Greater Middle East, or is it Asia?

Can it be both maybe?

This is just an argument of semantics (or possibly geography, I'm not sure which :oops:)

EDIT: I originally typed this wrong and said that we were still in Iraq. I have corrected this for clarity. Sorry.

[Betonov]

The army could be used to augment the police. Which means NO guns, grenades or bayonets. Just night-sticks, shields and tear gas. The military police should have some sort of riot squad, for all the drunken sailors

As far as I know, the last of the British troops were withdrawn from Iraq earlier this year.

British troops (along with those from many other nations) are still engaged in Iraq.

you may want to re-chek that, I think that you meant Cyprus as one of them Iraqs

[Paul Riley]

I just dont understand why some of you are allowed to make sarcastic remarks to some of my posts all the time,and whenever I mention something controversial or defend myself I am instantly targeted by hordes of 'apparent' communists/socialists and virtually silenced.Reminds me of the Thought Police from 1984 :damn:
I have rights to speak and voice my opinions too,this is after all that ridiculous notion of democracy we are supposed to live in you know :yawn:
I am clearly law abiding and respect disciplined society with zero tolerance towards crime,some of you clearly are not and will be enjoying these scenes around England at the moment,and thats why I am readily attacked,and thats why the country is in the state that its in.

England,for the love of god wake up!

[Betonov]

I just dont understand why some of you are allowed to make sarcastic remarks to some of my posts all the time,and whenever I mention something controversial or defend myself I am...

and then

I have rights to speak and voice my opinions too...

soooooo, you would deny me my right to ridicule you while whine about your right to make absurd comments about races (human races, not horse races) I am so seeing Tribesman now writing a novel epic in response.

[Paul Riley]

Whereas I can believe you made that statement:har::har::har::har::har:
Check the date, check an atlas then check your countries current military deployments. :know:

You've lost the plot you have,so you are trying to tell us that British troops are nowhere to be found in the middle east?! :o
I dont know what 'kicks' you get from all this,but its nothing short of sadism.
:har::har::har::har::har: <--- still like these little guys I see? kids do this sort of thing all the time.

[Paul Riley]

for certain people being reasonable and letting things slip is seen as a weakness.



I think you just hit the nail clean on the head there.
Not everyone thinks the same and people need to grasp that fact,FAST!
Keep turning a blind eye all the time,then expect things like this to happen daily and with increasing severity.

[Paul Riley]

and then



soooooo, you would deny me my right to ridicule you while whine about your right to make absurd comments about races (human races, not horse races) I am so seeing Tribesman now writing a novel epic in response.

Its all bait,and some of you enjoy fishing,its such a boring hobby.Well this fish is no regular fish :03:

[Paul Riley]

Whereas I can believe you made that statement:har::har::har::har::har:
Check the date, check an atlas then check your countries current military deployments. :know:

You ever heard of Basra?,you ever heard of Helmand Province?,you heard of British troops getting blown to bits by Taliban land mines almost daily?,now you go and tell their families that they were really just posted in Cyprus somewhere and everything was all a lie and your son is really alive and well eating olives and sipping wine in the sun.

[Betonov]

Fishing for Irishmen, now that's new

[Paul Riley]

Fishing for Irishmen, now that's new

What? :06:
You people are plain weird!

[Hottentot]

hordes of 'apparent' communists/socialists

Show me just one.

[Paul Riley]

Show me just one.

I could,but I wont be allowed to do that,that would be labelled as 'trolling' ,satisfied?.
And I will NOT jeapordize my membership here just to prove how annoying some of you truly are.

How is the private socialist utopia of Finland going anyway?

[Tribesman]

You've lost the plot you have,so you are trying to tell us that British troops are nowhere to be found in the middle east?!
No, they are found in Cyprus.

You ever heard of Basra?,you ever heard of Helmand Province?,
They pulled out of Basra over two years ago and Helmand is in central asia

[Hottentot]

satisfied?

No. I have a nagging feeling that you are one of those people who like magic words. I was hoping you would prove you are not. I don't see how it would be trolling that you'd say who do you think here is a communist/socialist and then explain why do you think so.

How is the private socialist utopia of Finland going anyway

Fine, thank you. We live in harmony, no riots here.

[Betonov]

What? :06:
You people are plain weird!

weird ?? no insane ?? yes :DL

you said it was bait, the talk about your right to speak and us not allowed to riducule you blablabla... I'm guessing it was bait for Tribesman, who is Irish (at least it says so in his location)

[Morts]

I just dont understand why some of you are allowed to make sarcastic remarks to some of my posts all the time,and whenever I mention something controversial or defend myself I am instantly targeted by hordes of 'apparent' communists/socialists and virtually silenced.Reminds me of the Thought Police from 1984 :damn:
I have rights to speak and voice my opinions too,this is after all that ridiculous notion of democracy we are supposed to live in you know :yawn:
I am clearly law abiding and respect disciplined society with zero tolerance towards crime,some of you clearly are not and will be enjoying these scenes around England at the moment,and thats why I am readily attacked,and thats why the country is in the state that its in.

England,for the love of god wake up!
You're "attacked" because of the hate and stupidity you've been spewing, that doesnt make people communists or socialists.
Plenty of people here have disagreements, left and right, and they dont resort to mocking.
But when someone like you or Snestorm comes along and spew your hate and stupidty, its called out and in many cases mocked