Carrier playable?

[iowa101]

is it me or does no one want to try doing a playable aircraft carrier. i find my self bored because i have to play with is three surface ships.
uss iowa
uss montana
uss north carolina

it seems to me that eveyone has forgotten. hms hood, uss missouri. uss enterprise, uss arizona, and more. i would like to see these ships sail once again as a tribute to the brave sailors who never made it that day.

i would like to try doing my own ship but i have no experience what so ever.

if anyone has the experience please let me know, as i will do anything i can to help

[Karle94]

I could make the HMS Hood.

[Marka Ragnos]

Well playing with a carrier may sound good but you said you get bored with the iowa...You can't control the aircrafts so besides that what more value has it to offer then a destroyer?

Don't get me wrong i would love to play with the nimitz just for the look and feel of it. But it would be a huge bummer that the aircrafts sit on the deck and do nothing while i'm attacked..

[JREX53]

Why don't you try reading this thread to find out why.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166456

[iambecomelife]

It would be possible to create Kamikaze planes for a Japanese carrier mod, using an invisible weapons node with aircraft as the object sprite. However, I don't think normal flight operations would be possible (unless the player unit can spawn airgroups - I am not sure about this).

[tater]

Even with airgroups the planes will only work withing render ranges.

If the silly "airgroup" paradigm worked in MP such that you'd have random air encounters within the airgroup range, that would also be silly and broken since the attacks would be continuous instead of discrete attacks by strike groups.

CVs in SH are plain old silly, sadly.

[iambecomelife]

Even with airgroups the planes will only work withing render ranges.

If the silly "airgroup" paradigm worked in MP such that you'd have random air encounters within the airgroup range, that would also be silly and broken since the attacks would be continuous instead of discrete attacks by strike groups.

CVs in SH are plain old silly, sadly.


It's very unfortunate. Even "US Navy Fighters" from the mid-1990's had actual aircraft taking off and landing from carriers, but more than a decade later they seem to act like it's too much effort to include.

[iowa101]

thanks for the insight. and the hood would be a great addition to the game if you would actually like to begin work on it. i cant do much but maybe i can find some info for weapons and armour values. speed and what not.....i'm good at stuff like that atleast

[Karle94]

thanks for the insight. and the hood would be a great addition to the game if you would actually like to begin work on it. i cant do much but maybe i can find some info for weapons and armour values. speed and what not.....i'm good at stuff like that atleast

Don`t worry, I also know where and how to get information. I will begin the work tomorrow.

[iowa101]

maybe you could send me your msn, so i can keep in contact.

also here is some stuff i found for you.

http://www.hmshood.com/photos/hoodphotos3.htm

and the basic ships stats -

H.M.S HOOD

Period of service - 1920- 1941 ( i suggest making it 1941- 1948)
so that it's playable throughout the campain.

Displacement - 42, 462 tons

Length - 262.3m/ 860.7ft (overall)

Beam - 32m/ 105.2ft

Complement - 1418 (of which only three men survived)
- Ted Briggs
- William Dundas
- Bob Tilburn

Speed - 31 knts

Armament - 8 x 15 inch guns, 14 x 4 inch guns, 6 x 21 inch torpedo tubes

Armour - 5- 12 inch belt, 2- 3 inch deck, 12 inch barbettes, 5- 15 inch turrets

if there is anything at all i can do please let me know and i will do what ever i can to help

[iowa101]

i must point out that this mod will be in memory of ted briggs, and the other two survivors of the hms hood sinking.
we need someone experienced with campaign missions so that we can recreate the life and service of the hms hood up untill the date of her sinking

[Karle94]

i must point out that this mod will be in memory of ted briggs, and the other two survivors of the hms hood sinking.
we need someone experienced with campaign missions so that we can recreate the life and service of the hms hood up untill the date of her sinking

Making new missions for the campaign is not my field of expertese. I`ll ask Lurker to include the Hood in his Subron 50.

[iowa101]

thank you.

i have a service record and an all refit info if you need them, being a british citizen helps lol. also i was wondering about possibly doing this texture.

i'll send it to you via pm due to not being able to post for some reason.

[Karle94]

The refit info would be nice. Have thought of a hypothetical refit of the Hood, kinda like the refit for the Renown.

[iowa101]

heres the refit info from 1920 - 1939, i'll add in two links

first - http://www.hmshood.com/history/construct/repair42.htm

that is the refit that was cancelled due to the declorartion of war on germany and some other countries.

second - http://www.hmshood.com/ship/index.htm

this gives you the statistics for the armorment and related systems such as radar
anti- aircraft
torpedoes
deck guns and more

[Karle94]

heres the refit info from 1920 - 1939, i'll add in two links

first - http://www.hmshood.com/history/construct/repair42.htm

that is the refit that was cancelled due to the declorartion of war on germany and some other countries.

second - http://www.hmshood.com/ship/index.htm

this gives you the statistics for the armorment and related systems such as radar
anti- aircraft
torpedoes
deck guns and more

Thanks these will really help me to make a refit for the Hood.

I got permission by Lurker to make the Hood compatible with Subron 50.

[Karle94]

Thought I`d post a update on the Hood:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/HMSHood.jpg

[iowa101]

looking good mate, you really nailed it. make sure to ask if you need help
with anything

[Karle94]

looking good mate, you really nailed it. make sure to ask if you need help
with anything

Just wait until you see the refit.

[iambecomelife]

Thought I`d post a update on the Hood:

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/HMSHood.jpg

I like it!

What modeling program do you use?

[Karle94]

I like it!

What modeling program do you use?

I use Misfit Model 3D. Good modeling program, easy to use.

[Karle94]

Do anyone recognise this ship?

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/yy51/Karle94/HMSHood_Refit.jpg

It`s a refit of the Hood based on the KGV.

[iowa101]

it appears to me like the sister ship of the hms hood. the hms renown, but thats me lol.

might also be an early verson of the king george or maybe the prince of wales

[Karle94]

it appears to me like the sister ship of the hms hood. the hms renown, but thats me lol.

might also be an early verson of the king george or maybe the prince of wales

The HMS Renown and HMS Repulse are one class of battlecruiser. The HMS Hood is an Admiral class battlecruiser. Only the Hood was built. The superstructure is pretty much the same on the Queen Elizabeth, HMS Renown and the KGV.

[iowa101]

well im hitting the sack, so ill see you tomorrow morning, about 5 mins ago i emailed a friend of mine, he's going to send me a few things about hoods cruise around the world. maybe we could implement this a none hostile war patrol or quick mission.

also i have found this. maybe we could try using some of the colours around the guns as these areas are always quite plane and also some of the more minor details. colours etc.

http://www.hmshood.com/images/hood41.gif

[iambecomelife]

The HMS Renown and HMS Repulse are one class of battlecruiser. The HMS Hood is an Admiral class battlecruiser. Only the Hood was built. The superstructure is pretty much the same on the Queen Elizabeth, HMS Renown and the KGV.

I once saw a model "what-if" version of "Hood" showing her after a refit circa 1943-1944; it was very convincing. The model did in fact look like other heavily modified WWI ships, like "Renown" & "Warspite", with a very big forward superstructure. It's really incredible how certain old warships changed over the years, like the "USS California", "Warspite", and "Furious".

[iowa101]

is it possible to concert google sketchup's to sh4 at all, because i have uss hornet an aircraft carrier. i have been working on putting color on it for at least and hour or two.

i have sent an email to ask permission to use the model and have recieved an email, saying 'not my model, but if you add, or change something then it becomes your work'

but i dont know how to convert or how to add weapons or torpedo tubes, also it needs propellers. i do not know how to make it playable either.

[iowa101]

these are the statistics for the uss hornet. the torpedoes are main weapon due to it being a carrier it has no deck guns

Length:
809 ft. 6 in.

Beam:
83 ft. 3 in.

Flightdeck Width:
127 ft.

Draft:
21 ft. 8 in.

Displacement:
20,000 tons

Propulsion:
Geared Turbines, 4 shafts,
120,000 shaft horsepower

Speed:
34 kts.

Armament:
81 planes, 8 x 5"/38,
16 x 1.1", 24 x 20mm

Armor:
4" belt, 1.5" deck

Complement:
2072

Class:
HORNET

if anyone could help get this ship into game with the option to play it througout the whole campaign. that would be brilliant
if anyone will help do this i can send the model to you for you to convert and get started on. also if it is possilbe add forward and aft torpedoe tubes
each.

forward: 2 tubes, with 30 reservers
aft: 2 tubes, with 30 reservers