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W_clear
03-21-09, 06:51 PM
Which one better PeriscopeWake?

One------> Rather narrow
http://i43.tinypic.com/16irvyf.gif

Two------->Comparison of wide
http://i44.tinypic.com/5fknee.gif

three---------->Have foam
http://i42.tinypic.com/kbrv44.gif
keltos01
03-21-09, 06:54 PM
three definitely !

I looked at a bunch of RL photos of periscopes lately for my ijn one ;)

keltos
Vikinger
03-21-09, 06:58 PM
I would say narrow whit foam :)
Task Force
03-21-09, 07:05 PM
3:DL

looks great.
Lagger123987
03-21-09, 08:23 PM
All of them, unless there's a muti periscope wake pack.
Task Force
03-21-09, 08:24 PM
Yea. a pack with all 3 would be cool.:DL (See which we like best.:yeah:
rcjonessnp175
03-21-09, 08:47 PM
I agree have a triple cheeseburger combo with this on, i like 3 as it has a little bit of foam never been in a sub nor seen one at periscope depth so have no idea how it would look but i think 3 would go great with the your uber enviroment mod.

Jonesy:salute::salute:
W_clear
03-21-09, 09:05 PM
OKOK.
I see.Thanks all.:woot:
Task Force
03-21-09, 09:06 PM
so... When should this nice pack of scope wakes be released.:D
rcjonessnp175
03-21-09, 09:07 PM
U the man Wclear again awesome work dude:yeah::yeah:
W_clear
03-21-09, 09:14 PM
so... When should this nice pack of scope wakes be released.:D
Very quick.There is a lot of adjustments required in the SH4, I have only one one resolved. Finish one , release one.:O:
gdc3man
03-21-09, 09:15 PM
Three is a definate YES>>>>>:D Great work !
Task Force
03-21-09, 09:17 PM
ok. better to wait for a fully finished one than a a buggy release.:yeah:
rcjonessnp175
03-21-09, 09:25 PM
Im in no hurry still patrolling around the bloody aleutian islands jeese were r these guys, spend most time ooogling the new waves and environment sweeeeet:salute::salute:

Jonesy
thyro
03-21-09, 09:27 PM
Hi W_clear

for old subs number 1 with a bit more stronger "white" wake

u-boat pic with periscope+snorkel for example:
http://www.uboataces.com/images/uboat_snorkel.jpg

But for more modern subs then number 3... again with "stronger" wake

http://www.ss346.com/images/NeatStuff/PeriscopeClose.jpg

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/photonic-mast-a.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Periscope_Depth.jpg/800px-Periscope_Depth.jpg

Cheers
W_clear
03-21-09, 10:04 PM
Hi W_clear

for old subs number 1 with a bit more stronger "white" wake

u-boat pic with periscope+snorkel for example:
http://www.uboataces.com/images/uboat_snorkel.jpg

But for more modern subs then number 3... again with "stronger" wake

http://www.ss346.com/images/NeatStuff/PeriscopeClose.jpg

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/photonic-mast-a.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Periscope_Depth.jpg/800px-Periscope_Depth.jpg

Cheers
I see.Thanks.
Task Force
03-21-09, 10:05 PM
wonder if I can find a pic of a american sub at Periscope Debth.:hmmm:
LukeFF
03-21-09, 11:24 PM
wonder if I can find a pic of a american sub at Periscope Debth.:hmmm:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/0817520.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/0818411.jpg

Pampanito:

http://www.maritime.org/img/dived.gif
Task Force
03-21-09, 11:27 PM
Veary good lukeff (w clear you might want to make the wake particles alittle bit smaller. {3 pic})
Yattky
03-21-09, 11:45 PM
Three, absolutely.
Incidentally, I hope you make longer wakes mod (both from vessels and torpedoes) too.:cool:
W_clear
03-22-09, 12:06 AM
Veary good lukeff (w clear you might want to make the wake particles alittle bit smaller. {3 pic})

I will try do it
kriller2
03-22-09, 03:44 AM
Hi W_clear.

You made this work !!! nice work :03:
W_clear
03-22-09, 04:17 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/axzdj6.gif

More white.

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when the submarine dive across 15 meters . There is no foam.:damn:
http://i44.tinypic.com/11b818i.gif
W_clear
03-22-09, 04:19 AM
Hi W_clear.

You made this work !!! nice work :03:
Hi.K2.

You can come here is not easy, you too busy.:salute:
keltos01
03-22-09, 04:21 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/axzdj6.gif

More white.

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when the submarine dive across 15 meters . There is no foam.:damn:
http://i44.tinypic.com/11b818i.gif

beautiful work there though ! :up:

Btw can you help Yattky ? he 's asked for a long time for longer torpedo wakes, and this is clearly your department :yep:.

thanks

keltos
rcjonessnp175
03-22-09, 04:22 AM
Looks awesome bro awesome :rock::rock::rock::rock:

Jonesy
W_clear
03-22-09, 04:32 AM
beautiful work there though ! :up:

Btw can you help Yattky ? he 's asked for a long time for longer torpedo wakes, and this is clearly your department :yep:.

thanks

keltos

I will do it soon.
el cheguevara
03-22-09, 04:40 AM
Great work man :yeah:, will this be available for stock or just for real environment? I use stock since my system loses fps with real environment (get about 17 at pearl with it on).
Vikinger
03-22-09, 07:02 AM
Longer wake is possible to do. I played around a bit for some days ago and changed the sub wake from 27 meters to over 200 meters length.

The lenght was there but the wake looked horrible :D. So there is a lot of tweaking to do if we are gona se longer wake mod.

However i got a about 60 meters wake on my sub that looked ok. Twice as much as stock. And that whitout changing to many values.
Yattky
03-22-09, 07:49 AM
I will do it soon.

I'm really waiting for the mod and looking forward to seeing the realistic wakes on SH4 just as I see on SH3.:salute:
Webster
03-22-09, 11:18 AM
when the submarine dive across 15 meters . There is no foam.:damn:
http://i44.tinypic.com/11b818i.gif


well that is how it is supposed to be. they werent made to plow water they narrowed the shafts at the top to avoid making a large signature on the water.
Munchausen
03-22-09, 01:03 PM
The size of the rooster tail depends on the speed of the sub. If it must be "one speed fits all" I'd suggest at least a bit of rooster tail. (You might want to test how your view is affected when looking aft through the periscope.)
GOZO
03-23-09, 07:24 AM
No. 3 please!

:salute:

7OB
Regio Sommergibile
03-23-09, 10:40 AM
I would say n°3 but is there a possibility to see it more dense ?

I hate the spray look...btw looks really better than vanilla :up:
edjcox
03-23-09, 11:09 PM
No 3 seems realistic but foam is to large should form behind and be flat then wake up and then down and up and disappear....

All depends on boat's velocity, wave actions.. Perhaps cycle the foam randomly with higher appearance at greater velocity? Don't know if you can tie it to that.


Periscopes wakes are very narrow and fine with the upper element of the attack scope, further down the shaft the scopes circumference increases and if the scope sticks out enough that thicker element portends a thicker wake and more foam. The observation scopes optics where larger so that overall these scopes would show more of a wake and foam. Same for the extension impact.

Many subs carried a HF antennae aft of the periscopes shears so that often when at shallow depth the antennae broke the surface along with the scope at about 1/3 of extension. Running true periscope depth kept the HF whip down. Also the lifelines about the sides were in fact antennae elements for a long wire.

This mod is really gonna impove realism if you can tie in the various systems, ie observation scope full extension, observation scope shallow depth with larger element protruding, attack full extension periscope depth, attack scope shallow depth with larger element extension above water line... Dual scopes dragging, rooster tail at 9 knots. HF Whip protrusion.. Radar mast head protrusion and turbulent wakes...

Thank you for the mod as it is.

:salute: