SH3 Commander and S class subs

[Contact]

Hi everyone.

Today I sank HMS Stygian (S class), 767 tons, but my SH3Commander listed it in merchant section instead of warships in summary table.
I think it's not right. It should go to warships :)

AND

When I opened my Personnel File I can't see the tonnage for S-class sub (767 tons) counted in. Only when I hit on patrol number to see details I can see tonnage summary with S class sub. So for instance Personnel File gives me total tonage like this:
18 (file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/My%20Documents/Personnel%20Files/SH3/Paulius_Kleinas/Log_17.html)19MAR41 - 31MAR41 (13 days)2 (2/0)4429 (4429/0)

While Captains log shows:

Patrol results
Crew losses: 0
Ships sunk: 3
Aircraft destroyed: 0
Patrol tonnage: 5196 tons

U need to focus on 18 patrol :)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3718/clipboard1zh9.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard1zh9.jpg)

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/4593/clipboard2il9.th.jpg (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard2il9.jpg)

Hope it helps to see what I mean :)

Pardon for low quality :(

[Contact]

Offtopic issue but related to SH3 Commander:

When I received German cross in gold it is not showned in the Personnel file medals section. But I see it in the game though..

[Contact]

:damn: 113 reviews and no one gives a s*** to reply something, am I alone here ?!

[Sailor Steve]

I have no idea.

Does that help?:sunny:

[Contact]

I have no idea.

Does that help?:sunny:

:rotfl:

[Reise]

Hmmm
You report say U flotilla Wegener in March 41 :hmm:

I sank S class and show on commander report

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q434/Reise_Reise2008/ScreenHunter_841.jpg

What version commander you use ?

[Contact]

I'm using the latest version 3.1.3.185

I see u not quite understood what I wanted to say :nope:
Ok here we go again:

When I sank S-class sub and opened my Personnel_File.html it's sunken tonnage was not included in the quantity of that patrol, copy that ? :) Look at my both screenshots and analyze my 18-th patrol. I can't find an explanasion to myself so far how come Personnel_File.html (4429 tons) results are different from my Log_17.html (5196 tons)which is my 18-th patrol details (where ship names are)

[Reise]

I see what you mean - I sunk 15 in pic above but ingame only show 14
1 warship and 13 merchant
No sub

I guess as sub AI was never in game

Look SH3\data\cfg\Careers and you career

Look Log_* of patrol - S class is there yes

Look Patrols_* and no submarine in there to choose

ShipsSunkNb=0
WarShipsSunkNb=0
PatrolCraftSunkNb=0
CorvetteSunkNb=0
FrigateSunkNb=0
DestroyerEscortSunkNb=0
DestroyerSunkNb=0
MineSweeperSunkNb=0
LightCruiserSunkNb=0
HeavyCruiserSunkNb=0
EscortCarrierSunkNb=0
AircraftCarrierSunkNb=0
BattleCruiserSunkNb=0
BattleShipSunkNb=0
MineLayingShipSunkNb=0
AuxiliaryCruiserSunkNb=0
MerchantShipsSunkNb=0
SupplyShipNb=0
FuelTankerNb=0
CargoShipNb=0
TroopTransportNb=0
PlanesDownNb=0
FighterAircraftNb=0
BomberAircraftNb=0
DiveBomberAircraftNb=0
TorpedoBomberAircraftNb=0
ScoutAircraftNb=0
HelicopterNb=0

Look also Careers_* and no sub also

MerchantTotalTonnage=0.000000
WarshipsTotalTonnage=0.000000
ShipsSunkNb=0
MerchantTotalShipsSunk=0
WarshipsTotalShipsSunk=0
PatrolCraftSunk=0
CorvetteSunk=0
FrigateSunk=0
DestroyerEscortSunk=0
DestroyerSunk=0
MineSweeperSunk=0
LightCruiserSunk=0
HeavyCruiserSunk=0
EscortCarrierSunk=0
AircraftCarrierSunk=0
BattleCruiserSunk=0
BattleShipSunk=0
MineLayingShipSunk=0
AuxiliaryCruiserSunk=0
PlanesDownNb=0

Maybe game need entry in those two for sub to show

SubmarineNb=0 before line PlanesDownNb=0

[Contact]

..I really have no idea how to fix it.. :doh:

Do u think I should try to add this entry myself or wait for an update ?

[Reise]

You can alter tonnage but look like order and names in menu_en file
No space to add submarine to list as no empty numbers :nope:

[Sailor Steve]

Edit your patrol logs with JScones' handy-dandy Patrol Log Editor!

Thread here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133102&highlight=patrol+editor

Note in post #36 I used it to make some rather extravagant claims...


Download here:
http://files.filefront.com/SH3PatLogEd2zip/;11458675;/fileinfo.html

[JScones]

Hi everyone.

Today I sank HMS Stygian (S class), 767 tons, but my SH3Commander listed it in merchant section instead of warships in summary table.
I think it's not right. It should go to warships :)

AND

When I opened my Personnel File I can't see the tonnage for S-class sub (767 tons) counted in. Only when I hit on patrol number to see details I can see tonnage summary with S class sub. So for instance Personnel File gives me total tonage like this:
18 (file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/My%20Documents/Personnel%20Files/SH3/Paulius_Kleinas/Log_17.html)19MAR41 - 31MAR41 (13 days)2 (2/0)4429 (4429/0)

While Captains log shows:

Patrol results
Crew losses: 0
Ships sunk: 3
Aircraft destroyed: 0
Patrol tonnage: 5196 tons

U need to focus on 18 patrol :)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3718/clipboard1zh9.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard1zh9.jpg)

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/4593/clipboard2il9.th.jpg (http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard2il9.jpg)

Hope it helps to see what I mean :)

Pardon for low quality :(

A Subsim colleague alerted me to this thread (and a few others it seems) and as the answer is painfully simple for me, I will answer it now.

Simply, SH3 (ie not GWX OR SH3Cmdr) does not record the details of submarines sunk in career files. In patrol logs, yes; but career files no. And IIRC this extends to the associated renown as well.

I alerted the GWX team to this problem a loooong time ago (I think I may have even still been on the team), but either they couldn't figure out a work-around (I naively suggested classing enemy submarines as a kind of warship, but dunno if that was feasible), or they simply ignored me.

Either way, this is a problem that ALL GWX users will encounter and one that the GWX team has to address. All SH3Cmdr does is report what it finds; whether it is right or not is left up to each mod to work out. The only "error correction" that SH3Cmdr applies relates to known stock issues.

I wouldn't expect a fix for the problem now.

Offtopic issue but related to SH3 Commander:

When I received German cross in gold it is not showned in the Personnel file medals section. But I see it in the game though..
Erm, your Personnel File image shows you as receiving the German Cross on 26 Dec 1939?! :hmm:

[Reise]

I think end patrol take information here

en_menu

1600=Patrol Number:
1601=Start Date:
1602=Start Location:
1603=End Date:
1604=End Location:
1605=Submarine:
1606=Current Flotilla:
1607=Current Emblem:

1608=Merchant Sunk:
1609=Merchant Tonnage:
1610=Warship Sunk:
1611=Warship Tonnage:
1612=Warship Types Sunk

1613=Battleships:
1614=Battle Cruisers:
1615=Fleet Carriers:
1616=Escort Carriers:
1617=Heavy Cruisers:
1618=Light Cruisers:
1619=Auxiliary Cruisers:
1620=Destroyers:
1621=Destroyer Escorts:
1622=Frigates:
1623=Mine Layers:
1624=Mine Sweepers:
1625=Corvettes:
1626=Patrol Craft:
1627=Aircraft Downed:

1628=Officers Dead:
1629=Petty-Officers Dead:
1630=Seamen Dead:
1631=Crew Experience:
1632=Hull Integrity:
1633=Renown (per patrol):

No spare number to add submarine too
Have look at other way but not found it yet :nope:

Not bother as only use SH3commander patrol file anyway :up:

Nice to see you Mr Jones
Thank you for JSGME and commander

:lol:

[Contact]

Hi JScones, nice to hear from you,

Acctually I was waiting for your attention to this thread :yep:


The German Cross I received prety early. when I sunk Auxilary Cruiser.

Later in my career I got German cross in gold, which is seen in the game (the box where all the medals goes ). But I am missing a line in SH3Cmd reporting this event :)

I will make a screenshot probably tomorrow, since I got back from holiday resort at seaside couple of hours ago, so feeling kind of lazy to do anything :lol:

BTW. Water temperature at Baltic Sea today was 19C, so after hunting for biggest waves I'm kind of washed-out and now heading to check my bunk space :up:

Later..

[Contact]

ok.. here is my screenshot from awards box :)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2609/germancrossdt7.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=germancrossdt7.jpg)

I believe German cross and German cross in gold are two different medals ? Couldn't find (in game patrol history) on what patrol I exactly got it but here it is :-?