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keltos01
07-14-08, 11:14 AM
i got the sailors in place but how do you get anyone to man the AA gun ?

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Mush Martin
07-14-08, 11:17 AM
ingame hit battlestations:hmm: I think thats what you mean but
I am not really certain. crewslots appear when the gun is
purchased each gun has a number of available crew slots
keltos01
07-14-08, 11:44 AM
when I do they don't show up...:nope:
d5j55
07-14-08, 11:54 AM
do you have people assigned to it?
keltos01
07-14-08, 11:57 AM
I don't honestly know.... where should they be ? upcge ? cfg ?
Mush Martin
07-14-08, 02:33 PM
Im still not sure its what you want

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData then then the weapons file.
Digital_Trucker
07-14-08, 02:49 PM
keltos, in the upc or upcge files you have to have crew slots for the guns. If you took the files from an existing conning tower, then they should already be there. If not, use one of the conning tower .upc files as a guide to make slots for the crewmen to fill. When you go to the crew management page, are there any slots for crewmembers for the guns?
keltos01
07-14-08, 02:58 PM
there is this, and I don't see the difference with other conning tower's upcge..


ID= CrewFlak
NameDisplayable= Flak Guns
FunctionalType= CrewMembersGrouping
IDLinkFunctionalSubsystemSlots= CrewMemberSlot_FlakL1, 0,CrewMemberSlot_FlakL2, 0

here in game at action stations :

[U]http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8605/crewms9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
peabody
07-14-08, 04:15 PM
keltos, in the upc or upcge files you have to have crew slots for the guns. If you took the files from an existing conning tower, then they should already be there. If not, use one of the conning tower .upc files as a guide to make slots for the crewmen to fill. When you go to the crew management page, are there any slots for crewmembers for the guns?
I quickly looked over the German upc and they don't have slots that I can find for A01 and A02 which is where his guns are. So they must do it a different way on the UBoats. There are a lot of listings for Deck Guns with the slot set to NULL. Could they be considering the flak as Deckguns and you need to change the NULL??

Peabody
Digital_Trucker
07-14-08, 04:17 PM
Sorry, Keltos, the section you need is in the blahblahblah\Data\UPCDataGE\UPCUnitsData\UnitParts #SubName.upc file. There is a file like this for each German sub. They are numbered in order, so the # should be replaced with the number 3 if you don't have any other playable subs in your installation. The SubName should be replaced by your sub class/type.

The section I'm referring to (from the IXD2) looks like this:




; ******** FLAK *********


[UnitPart 1.Compartment 2.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL1
NameDisplayable= Port AA Gunner
Type= Crewman
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Guns
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 3.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL2
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Crew
Type= Crewman
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Seaman-Rank-1
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A02
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A02
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 4.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL3
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Leader
Type= Leader
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Guns
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_S01
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_S01
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 4.CrewMemberSlot 2]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakC31
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Crew
Type= Crewman
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Seaman-Rank-1
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM2@slot_S01
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM2@slot_S01
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

The yellow lines are the ones that put 3D crewmembers on the guns.
Digital_Trucker
07-14-08, 04:21 PM
I quickly looked over the German upc and they don't have slots that I can find for A01 and A02 which is where his guns are. So they must do it a different way on the UBoats. There are a lot of listings for Deck Guns with the slot set to NULL. Could they be considering the flak as Deckguns and you need to change the NULL??

Peabody

I still need to learn to type faster:rotfl:

My bad on what file to look in, I've gotten used to working without a conning tower. It works the same way on the American subs.
peabody
07-14-08, 04:27 PM
I quickly looked over the German upc and they don't have slots that I can find for A01 and A02 which is where his guns are. So they must do it a different way on the UBoats. There are a lot of listings for Deck Guns with the slot set to NULL. Could they be considering the flak as Deckguns and you need to change the NULL??

Peabody
I still need to learn to type faster:rotfl:

My bad on what file to look in, I've gotten used to working without a conning tower. It works the same way on the American subs.
:damn: Same here, forgot there was a .upc in the Unitparts.

@Keltos That is where your WCS men are too.
And not 100% sure but I think you need to put a "slot_A01" in, there is one on A02 but A01 is just the cfg#. (That's in the .dat file I talking about)

Peabody
keltos01
07-15-08, 04:32 AM
here's what I got in the Jyunsen B parts :

; ******** FLAK *********
[UnitPart 1.Compartment 2.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL1
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Leader
Type= Leader
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Guns
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= NULL
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 3.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL2
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Leader
Type= Leader
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Guns
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= NULL
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
;************************************************* ***********
;
; COMPARTMENT EQUIPMENT & WEAPS

what Mikhayl had in his typ II :

; ******** FLAK *********

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 2.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL1
NameDisplayable= AA Gunner
Type= Crewman
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= NULL;Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Guns
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
;

thanks Digital Trucker and Peabody, I'll change the 2 null and we'll see if they appear :)
keltos01
07-15-08, 04:51 AM
JSGME ready, this file replaces the original UnitParts3Jyunsen_B.upc, just install on top of any version of Jyunsen B mod



please feedback with pic, can't see it here...

don't work :damn: :damn:
keltos01
07-16-08, 03:48 AM
ok here it is : the kaidai tower has two AA guns, but at action stations only one is manned, the Jyunsen B has none, I looked at the normal IX tower and changed the .upc accordingly, is there another file to change?
keltos01
07-16-08, 09:06 AM
changed it, untested as of now :

; ******** FLAK *********

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 2.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL1
NameDisplayable= Port AA Gunner
Type= Crewman
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Guns
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 3.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL2
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Crew
Type= Crewman
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Seaman-Rank-1
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A01
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 4.CrewMemberSlot 1]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakL3
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Leader
Type= Leader
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Guns
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM1@slot_A02
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM2@slot_A02
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL

[UnitPart 1.Compartment 4.CrewMemberSlot 2]
ID=CrewMemberSlot_FlakC31
NameDisplayable= AA Gun Crew
Type= Crewman
WatchIndex= 0
IDLinkCrewMember= Crew-Seaman-Rank-1
WatchCrewMemberSlot3D= WM2@slot_A02
BattleStationsCrewMemberSlot3D= WM2@slot_A02
WatchAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
WatchAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForAdding3DObjects= NULL
BattleAccessoriesForSubtracting3DObjects= NULL