[HELP] Aircraft STILL attacking at night

[Quagmire]

I posted a little tounge-in-cheek thread over on the general forum but here I am serious. Here is the proof:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9607/shiv153tm5.jpg

Here is my mod list:

SILENT SERVICE 1.2c GRAPHICS MOD
1_TMaru_Trigger_Maru_1.7.6
2_TMaru_Sound
3_TMaru_GFX-ROW_Version_5
TMARU_Stock_Gramaphone
ROW NEW SeaFoam from Jaketoox
ROW Sound Effects vs_8
NSM4 classic
RSRDC_P3_TM_v320
Skin Pack
warships_retextured_v1_3

At first I thought it was RSRD that was causing this phenomenon but I just upgraded to RSRD Phase III and it is still happening. Its gotta be something in the new TM 1.7.6 since I never had this problem in 1.7.5.

Here is my AIRSTRIKE.CFG

Maximum Aircraft Range=1500 ;[>0] in kilometers
Poor Airbase Modifier=0.5 ;[>0] Modifier for poor airbase (carrier) rating
Novice Airbase Modifier=0.7 ;[>0] Modifier for novice airbase (carrier) rating
Competent Airbase Modifier=0.8 ;[>0] Modifier for competent airbase (carrier) rating
Veteran Airbase Modifier=0.9 ;[>0] Modifier for veteran airbase (carrier) rating
Elite Airbase Modifier=1 ;[>0] Modifier for elite airbase (carrier) rating
Night Modifier=0.0 ;[>0] Modifier on strike probability at night
Default Air Strike Probability=20 ;[>0] Default probability to send an airstrike from a airbase (carrier)
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Radio Messages Sent=20 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on a radio message sent
Friendly Air Strike Probability Increase on Contact Report Sent=70 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on a contact message sent
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Player Detection=90 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on player detection
Atenuation Factor=10 ;[>0] decrease from an increased probability to default one on each air session
Logic Steps Between Air Sessions=25 ;[>0] steps between air fighting sessions, 10*Logic Interval(90sec)

As you can see I changed the Night Modifier to 0.0 but still aircraft haunt me at night. From what I have read this is completely Ahistorical in the Pac theater.

Please help! Thanks!
.

[Digital_Trucker]

Just a wild guess here, but I'm thinking that Strike Modifier only changes the probablility of a strike being launched specifically at you from an airbase or a carrier, not whether a plane that just happens to be flying nearby at night sees you and attacks.

Does the aircraft (if it is properly armed) attack you? If it does, then I believe that we would have to blind the aircraft at night in order to avoid night air attacks. The only other option would be to figure out how to make the engine not allow aircraft flight at night, IMO.

[FAdmiral]

Do any of the super mods give Japanese aircraft radar in later years?
If they do, it might explain why that is happening. I do not run any of
the super mods so I have never seen night attacks. I only remember
playing SH3 that a bright light in the sky lite up my U-Boat like daylight.
I was then attacked by a British aircraft....

JIM

[FC Raptor]

Dload ParasB`s airstrike cfg.

or use this, it`s his cfg . it fixed it for me/.

Maximum Aircraft Range=2500 ;[>0] in kilometers
Poor Airbase Modifier=0.5 ;[>0] Modifier for poor airbase (carrier) rating
Novice Airbase Modifier=0.7 ;[>0] Modifier for novice airbase (carrier) rating
Competent Airbase Modifier=0.8 ;[>0] Modifier for competent airbase (carrier) rating
Veteran Airbase Modifier=0.9 ;[>0] Modifier for veteran airbase (carrier) rating
Elite Airbase Modifier=1 ;[>0] Modifier for elite airbase (carrier) rating
Night Modifier=0.2 ;[>0] Modifier on strike probability at night
Default Air Strike Probability=5 ;[>0] Default probability to send an airstrike from a airbase (carrier)
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Radio Messages Sent=20 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on a radio message sent
Friendly Air Strike Probability Increase on Contact Report Sent=70 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on a contact message sent
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Player Detection=30 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on player detection
Atenuation Factor=10 ;[>0] decrease from an increased probability to default one on each air session
Logic Steps Between Air Sessions=20

[Digital_Trucker]

Looks like TM did add radar to at least the H6K, if I'm reading the files correctly.


[Sensor 5]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=ASVMarkI
StartDate=19430601
EndDate=19440601

[Sensor 6]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=ASVMarkVII
StartDate=19440601
EndDate=19451231

[lurker_hlb3]

Looks like TM did add radar to at least the H6K, if I'm reading the files correctly.


[Sensor 5]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=ASVMarkI
StartDate=19430601
EndDate=19440601

[Sensor 6]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=ASVMarkVII
StartDate=19440601
EndDate=19451231



Those values are "stock"

[Quagmire]

Dload ParasB`s airstrike cfg.

or use this, it`s his cfg . it fixed it for me/.

Maximum Aircraft Range=2500 ;[>0] in kilometers
Poor Airbase Modifier=0.5 ;[>0] Modifier for poor airbase (carrier) rating
Novice Airbase Modifier=0.7 ;[>0] Modifier for novice airbase (carrier) rating
Competent Airbase Modifier=0.8 ;[>0] Modifier for competent airbase (carrier) rating
Veteran Airbase Modifier=0.9 ;[>0] Modifier for veteran airbase (carrier) rating
Elite Airbase Modifier=1 ;[>0] Modifier for elite airbase (carrier) rating
Night Modifier=0.2 ;[>0] Modifier on strike probability at night
Default Air Strike Probability=5 ;[>0] Default probability to send an airstrike from a airbase (carrier)
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Radio Messages Sent=20 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on a radio message sent
Friendly Air Strike Probability Increase on Contact Report Sent=70 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on a contact message sent
Enemy Air Strike Probability Increase on Player Detection=30 ;[>0] Increase over the default probability on player detection
Atenuation Factor=10 ;[>0] decrease from an increased probability to default one on each air session
Logic Steps Between Air Sessions=20

THANKS! :up:

I'll try this out and let you know.
.

[Digital_Trucker]

Looks like TM did add radar to at least the H6K, if I'm reading the files correctly.


[Sensor 5]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=ASVMarkI
StartDate=19430601
EndDate=19440601

[Sensor 6]
NodeName=R01
LinkName=ASVMarkVII
StartDate=19440601
EndDate=19451231



Those values are "stock"

My bad. Must have gotten cross-eyed as to which file I was looking at. Think I'm gonna quit looking at things:rotfl:

[fred8615]

I've been detecting aircraft at night in my current career since early 1943.

EDIT: Forgot to say I'm running stock 1.4.

[kriller2]

Yes me to :roll: zeros at night all the time, so i have to submerge...
My installations are SH4 + ROW + RSWD III.

[WernerSobe]

Night Modifier=0.0 ;[>0] Modifier on strike probability at night

means it must be more then 0. Try 0.01

[jbt308]

I just started a new campaign in late 1942, and I'm getting constant night fighters. I've got ROW + TM176 + RSRD(pre-III) and a few graphic updates. I can't remember the versions of TM and ROW I had previously, but this has never happened before, only after I installed the newer versions of TM and ROW, and actually using RSRD

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
Don't mind manual modding with information given so i followed WernerSobes suggestion

The line that reads "Night Modifier=0.0" i changed to Night Modifier=0.01

So far no night attacks, But maybe just me but a few days later i have a hellofatime with 3 groups of planes coming in around miday lol (was fun though) prolly coincidence and me admiring the scenery :D

But werners suggestion of a 0.01 value seems to of sorted my pretty constant night attacks

Have fun

Ciao

Def

[Doolittle81]

I am also suddenly getting night attacks...My latest additions have been RSRDC part III and just today i added "ROW Improved Night Visibility"...

I never had night attacks before....but then again, I haven't sailed as much as many/most people here.

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
Seems i spoke or typed too soon :(

Had a few attacks lastnight, Didn't get to see what types of plane as i dove deep asap

Will try differing values raising the 0.01 upwards

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

[DrBeast]

RSRDC Phase III has not made any changes to Airstrike.cfg.

[AkbarGulag]

What is the game time in that pic? I can't make it out.

Also, the airstike.cfg (don't quote me on this) only decides on the response the game gives when a sub is 'Detected'. It doesn't decide what time to put the planes in the air and it doesn't have any bearing on air patrol paths. It merely decides if it has a base in range to strike you with upon detection.

If you are currently not engaged or have not been seen by enemies, then the 'airstrike' file will not do anything.

If I a'm wrong on this then someone feel free to interject here. But thats my understanding of it.

[DrBeast]

I wonder...all you people who made changes to aircraft.cfg and said it didn't work, were you in port when you made those changes? The game might not register the changes if you're in mid-patrol. :hmm:

[jbt308]

Just thinking outside the box, but could this be something to do with the 1.4 patch? If not, then it obviously has to have something to do with one of the mods, not casting stones, but it's a logical conclusion. It's as if the temporal matrix is disregarded.

I also noticed zero warships. I steamed from Fremantle all the way to the South China Sea and sank about 9 ships, and saw no escorts, nor any warship for that matter, only planes at night.

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
I think you may have somert MrBeast

I was out at sea when i modded the cfg

Might make sense that i thought it had worked but later on night attacks started again

Will try and finish patrol now and change while in port ;)

Cheers :up:

Ciao

Have Fun

Def

[Archie]

Has anyone had any luck with this? I am in the Marshalls in December 1942 and I am getting attacked by aircraft every few hours, around the clock, I have yet to see more than 1 Maru (I have been patrolling the Marshalls now for a week+) and my Petty Officer seconded to the AA gun has taken down 10 (yes, TEN) Zero's and 2 seaplanes so far, and his trigger finger is getting mighty sore.....

I am running TM 1.7.6 + RSRDC v320 + the RSRDC patch for TM.

:arrgh!:

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

The gameplay took a steep dive in enjoyment because of this. It's frustrating having to dive every few hours. For that I'm gonna lock Ducimus in his own house!:yep: Going back to RFB until this is solved.

[WernerSobe]

hm well ive set night attack modifier to 0.01 and never been attacked at night since then.

[aanker]

I'm not sure what's going on at Midway (months/years after the battle). Never been attacked by them. As an experiment I put the crew on "Attack incoming aircraft attacking the boat" or whatever that command is - just to see what they would do and those pairs of planes just fly around (I know they see me) so I think they are just Allied planes on patrol. They haven't attacked.

As for the night modifier maybe try another 10x ... mine is:
Night Modifier=0.005 ... I think stock is: Night Modifier=0.5
I changed this while out on patrol and it made an immediate difference in night attacks. Now I have none.

Hope this helps.

Art

[Karbo]

I started a new career after setting night attack modifier to 0.01 so far so good, no night attacks.

[ecfchamps]

I have set the night attack modifier to 0.01 and ran into a few planes at night. It is a lot less than it was before I changed it to 0.01. The times I would run into them would be between 2 and 4 in the morning. Twice it was a lone plane and once it was two planes. I personally don't have any problems with it as I dive to 250 ft for an hour before coming back up and continue on my way. :up:

[399nkov]

I used ParaB's tweaked air strikes mod. Installed in mid patrol with no problems that I can see. Haven't seen any night patrols yet, just the normal daytime patrols. Prior to installing the mod I ran out of ammo in just one night. Good practice. Mid to late '43, Solomons, Truk, Guam, and now at Palau. :up:

I have TM 1.7.6, ROW, RSRDC_P3_TM_v320 and NSM4 Classic with a few others installed.

Sink'Um

[Dutchman 51]

Night Modifier=0.0 ;[>0] Modifier on strike probability at night

means it must be more then 0. Try 0.01

For those who have modified the airstrike.cfg file, are you making the changes through wordpad, and then saving it. I found the airstrike.cfg file, but was just not sure if this was the best way to ammend it.

I also did a search for ParasB's mod mentioned earlier, using airstrike.cfg as my search term. I got a number of hits, but could not locate this mod to possibly use it here as well. Does anyone have the link for this mod. Thanks

[WernerSobe]

never use wordpad it is not a clean text editor. It saves invisible text formatting sighns.

Always use notepad for editing something.

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
If you do a lot of editing with notepad either in XP or Vista (x86 versions anyways) i saved a reg file that adds open with notepad to your right mouse click options

http://hosted.filefront.com/Defianceco/

Also i use a copyto and moveto reg add-on also saves time etc and also goes on right mouse click option (again it works in xp or vista x86 versions)

May help some of you as it certainly helps me ;)

credits to whoever did it :)

Have fun

Ciao

ps: They are clean ;)

[Dutchman 51]

Hiya's,
If you do a lot of editing with notepad either in XP or Vista (x86 versions anyways) i saved a reg file that adds open with notepad to your right mouse click options

http://hosted.filefront.com/Defianceco/

Also i use a copyto and moveto reg add-on also saves time etc and also goes on right mouse click option (again it works in xp or vista x86 versions)

May help some of you as it certainly helps me ;)

credits to whoever did it :)

Have fun

Ciao

ps: They are clean ;)

Werner, I did not know Wordpad left invisible text. I will use notepad from now on. Do you edit the airstrike.cfg file in the main SH4 file, or under the TM1.7.6 airstrike.cfg file. There are two of them. Thanks for the insight.

Defiance, how do you load or install the above file in Win XP Pro. I opened it up, and it looks pretty simple, but was not sure how to install it. Thanks

[DrBeast]

Do you edit the airstrike.cfg file in the main SH4 file, or under the TM1.7.6 airstrike.cfg file. There are two of them. Thanks for the insight.


I will assume you have no other mod besides TM that changes airstrike.cfg. In this case, if you have activated TM with JSGME, the file in main SH4 directory will be the same as the one from TM.
Unless you know what you're doing, you ALWAYS disable the mod that makes changes to the file you want to work on, make your own changes, and then re-enable the mod. It's common sense to make a backup of the file you want to make changes on, just in case something goes bad.

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
Dutchman 51, If it's showing the reg icon like a rubiks cube with three chunks coming off it you just double click it wherever you saved it too and it will prompt to install into the reg, You will get a warning (as with any registry entries) then on accepting 2nd prompt it will install

I have used this since xp first came out and last year i found it works fine in x86 version of vista maybe x64 version too but i'm not sure but don't see why not

The copyto/moveto is also a time saver

These 2 reg files i couldn't do without and are always the first things i install whenever i format and freshly install windows

To see the icon i mean if your using xp goto start then run and type in regedit, When regedit opens the icon shows on it in the top left corner

If using vista you have to enable the run command option in the start menu options then do the same start/run n type regedit

There are loads of clever reg tweaks, I just threw these two up as they are my most used ones

Hope that helps

Have fun

Ciao

Def

[FC Raptor]

Link for ParaB`s airstrike cfg

http://freenet-homepage.de/parabellum/ParaB_tweaked_air_strikes.zip

[tjlegault]

I have change the cfg while in port and still the night attacks persist.
They seem to taper off at first but when I end the game (not the career) after I changed the cfg file and then come back later to resume the campaign, the night attacks get crazy fast.
TJL

[ReallyDedPoet]

I have change the cfg while in port and still the night attacks persist.
They seem to taper off at first but when I end the game (not the career) after I changed the cfg file and then come back later to resume the campaign, the night attacks get crazy fast.
TJL
Did you try this, from a few posts up :roll::
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=770706&postcount=24

May have a go at it myself :D


RDP

[Archie]

aarrgghhh :arrgh!: this is really detracting from my enjoyment of the game, I have tried both ParaB's aircraft.cfg fix and created my own (copied Duci's air.cfg from TM 1.7.6 and altered the night modifier down to 0.01 as suggested and enabled as a seperate mod in JSGME) and yes, did it while in port and it makes no difference, not one ship sighting just constant around the clock airstrikes. If I wanted to shoot down aircraft all the time i would reinstall IL2 Pacific Fighters :o. I hope someone with a little more experience in the guts of the game can come up with a fix for this or I will have to go back and start playing COD4 again....God forbid :down:

[Fish40]

I've been haveing the same prob. recently to some extent. It's June'43, and I'm patroling the Bismark Sea near Rabaul. I 'm useing ROW, RFB, and RSRD p3. I have been attacked several times now in the black of night. What I did that seemed to to stop it, was to turn my radar off, only makeing one single sweep per hour. I'm not sure if Japanese AC were equipped with radar, or radar detecting equipment at this point in the war, but this seemed to solve my continuous attacks at night.:yep:






Edit: Was just attacked again despite haveing radar off. So much for that theory.

[donut]

Hiya's,
If you do a lot of editing with notepad either in XP or Vista (x86 versions anyways) i saved a reg file that adds open with notepad to your right mouse click options

http://hosted.filefront.com/Defianceco/

Also i use a copyto and moveto reg add-on also saves time etc and also goes on right mouse click option (again it works in xp or vista x86 versions)

May help some of you as it certainly helps me ;)

credits to whoever did it :)

Have fun

Ciao

ps: They are clean ;)http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5067/thanks31kg0.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)

[Tim D]

I have tried everything from changing the config file, shutting down the radar, I even left it off the whole night, still alot of planes. It didnt start until I uploaded the last version of TM 1.7.6 I think after this current patrol I am going back to TM 1.7.5:down: or use another mod. I hate to do this with such a GREAT MOD, but it's really a PAIN to get attacked all night long.

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
Well after a long think i did this

Deleted My docs sh4 folder (yes lost saves etc but what the heck)

With jsgme i disabled all mods and then deleted tm part 1

I then notepadded this into the air cfg Night Modifier=0.00 within tm part 1 and reloaded it into jsgme then re-enabled all mods

Started a new career fast and furious to test settings

Now on my 2nd patrol just cruising off japan anyways no attacks at night :)

Had one as dusk was setting in but not a thing once darkness falls

Hope this helps

Ciao

Def

ps: If any night attacks occur i will post back ;)

[Archie]

Hiya's,
Well after a long think i did this

Deleted My docs sh4 folder (yes lost saves etc but what the heck)

With jsgme i disabled all mods and then deleted tm part 1

I then notepadded this into the air cfg Night Modifier=0.00 within tm part 1 and reloaded it into jsgme then re-enabled all mods

Started a new career fast and furious to test settings

Now on my 2nd patrol just cruising off japan anyways no attacks at night :)

Had one as dusk was setting in but not a thing once darkness falls

Hope this helps

Ciao

Def

ps: If any night attacks occur i will post back ;)

I was dreading this, I hoped that that would not work either, im a bit fond of my current career, oh well, back to the start of the war (again!) :arrgh!:

[Archie]

OK, bit the bullet, cleared the saves, uninstalled mods, fixed Duci's airstrike cfg to 0.0, reenabled all mods in correct order, started a new career Dec 7th 1941 outta Manila in USS Searaven....... NO MORE NIGHT ATTACKS! I had one solitary attack at 20:00 hours just off Formosa on December 14th but after that, no night attacks at all, patrol ended 27th December at Suribaya with 2 x 10,000 ton Large Tankers under my belt, very happy camper now! :arrgh!:

Guess I'll have to change my Sig again now......

[Powerthighs]

Important Note:

If you are running Vista and you SH4 is installed under C:\Program Files, make sure to right-click notepad.exe and select "run as administrator...". Just like JSGME, running a non-elevated program that attempts to write a file under C:\Program Files won't work as expected.

[Fish40]

I'm not so sure the answer lies in altering the TM config., although mabey for those useing it , it's a fix. I get the same thing, and I'm not using TM, I use RFB. Did RFB alter these files as well? I also use RSRD. Is everyone using this too? That may be the common denominator.

[DrBeast]

I use RSRDC Phase III for stock. No night attacks whatsoever in two patrols (date of last save: late January 1942).

ETA: I also use a slightly modified Parab's Fewer Air Contacts, have been using it ever since I reinstalled the game and patched to v1.4.

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
Well to be honest i have not completed a career since i got addicted to sh4 lol

What with all the glorious mods about i have been like a kid in a sweetshop he he

The career i just deleted was the furthest i had got (4th run out of pearl) but still so far so good no night attacks and all other tm air cfg settings are left untouched so hopefully nothing's been dumbed-down

Again any night attacks i'll ammend post (touches dado (wood ;))

Have Fun

Ciao

Def

[Doolittle81]

I use RSRDC Phase III for stock. No night attacks whatsoever in two patrols (date of last save: late January 1942).

ETA: I also use a slightly modified Parab's Fewer Air Contacts, have been using it ever since I reinstalled the game and patched to v1.4.

I use RSRDC III and I have been attacked at night.

[DrBeast]

Maybe it's a stock issue then, because, as I mentioned, I also use ParaB's airstrike.cfg, and RSRDC for stock does NOT alter that file :hmm:

[kylesplanet]

Well the problem is not in TM. I have two installs and I have night attacks on the stock version.

[momo55]

Just stopt playing and need to let go ...i'll do it my way if you guy's don't mind :lol:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7633/cheaterssz3.png

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8601/boemrw7.png

TM 1.7.6 + RSRDC II + ROW + NSM4 (play sh4 sinds day 1 and never had problems)
First patrol from Pearl in a Purpoise and in the Luzon strait area at the moment .
MMmmm...i need a few Rambo's in my crew ..i'll check the list in pearl :rotfl:

[Dutchman 51]

Do you edit the airstrike.cfg file in the main SH4 file, or under the TM1.7.6 airstrike.cfg file. There are two of them. Thanks for the insight.


I will assume you have no other mod besides TM that changes airstrike.cfg. In this case, if you have activated TM with JSGME, the file in main SH4 directory will be the same as the one from TM.
Unless you know what you're doing, you ALWAYS disable the mod that makes changes to the file you want to work on, make your own changes, and then re-enable the mod. It's common sense to make a backup of the file you want to make changes on, just in case something goes bad.

Dr. Beast, it make sense to disable TM (which I think is the only mod which should modify the airstrike.cg file), make the corrention, then re-enable TM mod. I will make a backup file as well. Always a good thing to do. Thanks

[Dutchman 51]

Hiya's,
Dutchman 51, If it's showing the reg icon like a rubiks cube with three chunks coming off it you just double click it wherever you saved it too and it will prompt to install into the reg, You will get a warning (as with any registry entries) then on accepting 2nd prompt it will install

I have used this since xp first came out and last year i found it works fine in x86 version of vista maybe x64 version too but i'm not sure but don't see why not

The copyto/moveto is also a time saver

These 2 reg files i couldn't do without and are always the first things i install whenever i format and freshly install windows

To see the icon i mean if your using xp goto start then run and type in regedit, When regedit opens the icon shows on it in the top left corner

If using vista you have to enable the run command option in the start menu options then do the same start/run n type regedit

There are loads of clever reg tweaks, I just threw these two up as they are my most used ones

Hope that helps

Have fun

Ciao

Def

Thanks Def. I have copied your instructions, and will try it out.

[Dutchman 51]

Link for ParaB`s airstrike cfg

http://freenet-homepage.de/parabellum/ParaB_tweaked_air_strikes.zip

Thank you Rator. I already have d/l and will try to install.

[Florida Sailor]

I have it on good authority that Ducimus is hard at work on the problem.
I am sure he would appreciate our patience in the matter. I have no ETA.

[Archie]

I have it on good authority that Ducimus is hard at work on the problem.
I am sure he would appreciate our patience in the matter. I have no ETA.

hehehee...you have been over at the Ubi forums haven't you Florida? Duci did say he has been keeping a weather eye on this air strike thread over here, and from all the 'Quote "B & M" Unquote' he was looking at the issue IIRC. :up:

[DrBeast]

I have it on good authority that Ducimus is hard at work on the problem.
I am sure he would appreciate our patience in the matter. I have no ETA.

No Rest For The Wicked! :D

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

I used the contents of the notepad in the Airstrike Mod and pasted it into TM airstrike notepad. It seemed to solve it for me so far in two patrols only one aircraft was spotted.

[letterboy1]

I'm running NSM 4 and ROW and have had night air attacks since sometime in 1943. I'm in the summer of 1944 now and still have them. I just thought that it was something that happened later in the war and didn't give it much thought. I guess that I forgot about Japanese radar not being as advanced as what we had at the time.