View Full Version : [WIP] Better Scopes 1.4
As has been mentioned i'm about to release the new Version of my Better Scopes Mod, hopefully improving upon a few things.
it's been rebuild from scratch, has a new background, more pronounced darkening of the attack scope, and a new bearing indicator.
both scopes at daylight:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7463/betterscopes14attackdayws8.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14attackdayws8.jpg)http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8315/betterscopes14obsdayac1.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14obsdayac1.jpg)
the new heading scale has been changed to replace part of the static lines that were there before. i have also tweaked it to the best of my abilities so that is actually showing each degree accurately so one can better estimate ones spread angle.
now to the downsides and why this thread has been named [WIP] and not [REL]:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/510/betterscopes14obsnightxd8.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14obsnightxd8.jpg)
this is the obs scope at night. as you can see it could become quite difficult to make out the markings if the lighting conditions become much worse... unfortunately i was not able to find a way to have every line the same color at all times. I could light up the heading scale at night wile leaving the other lines untouched or permanently lighting them up.
However *imho* it looks awful having two differently colored lines in there at once and i prefer having to look a bit harder. I'd like to know how many of you prefer it this way and how many would like the lines to be more visible at the cost of having them colored differently than the heading scale.
Is there a way to make the lines red to simulate red nightvision lamps? Or even yellow and have that night and day. Might not be real but it could work for the time being and until you find a better solution.
Great to see the showing of each degree accurately. That was something they should have taken more time to get right. Glad you've done it. :up:
the only color the bearing lines can have besides black is some shade of green. for some reason that seems to be hardcoded or i just can't find the place to change that...
the other lines i can make any color i want including green but as i've said - they would stay that way even in daylight while the bearing lines become black then. :(
i should also say that i would need to make the bearing lines relatively bright green as i've tried it with a darker shade and it was just as hard to see as it is now.
sneekyzeke
08-20-07, 05:04 PM
I have used your 1.3 scopes since they were released because I liked the readibility of the bearing tape. I don't use manual targeting so the most important thing to me is finding relative bearing so I can keep up with targets' relative position to me. From your night screenie I don't think I'd be happy with it, but the day version looks sharp! Do whatever you and others prefer; I will certainly give them a try but I'm perfectly happy with 1.3 so no biggie! I respect and appreciate your work. Zeke
Bright green sounds good for visability. I could live with that. :D
PULSEOX
08-20-07, 05:20 PM
For all of us "Old F*rts"- Bright Green will be SO much better!
Misfit138
08-20-07, 05:50 PM
For all of us "Old F*rts"- Bright Green will be SO much better!
And also for us younger farts who have some sort of night blindness!
Digital_Trucker
08-20-07, 06:04 PM
For all of us "Old F*rts"- Bright Green will be SO much better!
Yeah, what he said:cool:
Kapt.Klaus
08-20-07, 07:18 PM
I like the scope you created and the easy read. would you mind if I used the MASK portion of your scope... the "viewable area" in my scopes. I will give you credit but some out there you can't see at night thru mine would find it easier to use.
Please let me know...
Thanks
Kapt.Klaus.
castorp345
08-20-07, 07:49 PM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/510/betterscopes14obsnightxd8.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14obsnightxd8.jpg)
this is the obs scope at night. as you can see it could become quite difficult to make out the markings if the lighting conditions become much worse...I'd like to know how many of you prefer it this way [...]
i like it this way very much!!
would it be too much work to release two different versions of the obs? one for those of us who eat our carrots, and one for those who have difficulty with their nightvision?
CaptainCox
08-21-07, 12:59 AM
the only color the bearing lines can have besides black is some shade of green. for some reason that seems to be hardcoded or i just can't find the place to change that...
the other lines i can make any color i want including green but as i've said - they would stay that way even in daylight while the bearing lines become black then. :(
i should also say that i would need to make the bearing lines relatively bright green as i've tried it with a darker shade and it was just as hard to see as it is now.Hi man! the new stuff looks great. I just had a small request to make the bearing a different color etc
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=626129#post626129
I actually think you might be the best to answer this, but as I write in that thread, check out how the new clock needles/hands are done. It might be a lead. Have not checked this myself (off to work here) but it might be worth a try.
cheers! unfortunately changing the "color=" value doesn't do anything for that itemID... Originally i had planned to do it this way but it seems there is some other place where this is defined - possibly hardcoded :(
i will try and release two versions, although i would have liked to avoid that... i'm also working on both UZO and Binocs atm and will try and take some screens during the day :)
CaptainCox
08-21-07, 01:33 AM
Ahhhh. ok :( bummer. Looking foward to the new stuff man! :up:
would you mind if I used the MASK portion of your scope... the "viewable area" in my scopes.
sorry, must have missed this a moment ago - of course i won't mind :) mod away :D
however - i'd recommend waiting for the new version as it's been resized to match the default again which would be more in line with yours. once i'm done i can send you the psd of the mask if you want, too.
looks ok with green lines during the night:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9344/betterscopes14attacknigip5.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14attacknigip5.jpg)
but as the bearing strip changes color and i have no way to stop this it looks weird during the day imo:
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1358/betterscopes14attackdayyr8.th.jpg (http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14attackdayyr8.jpg)
CaptainCox
08-21-07, 02:11 AM
I would go for what you did in the previous Better Scopes Mod. Where the lines where sort a grayish day/night.
and leave the bearing lines like that?
then they would mismatch both day and night...
edit:
here's a gray version:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5435/betterscopes14attackdaypb9.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14attackdaypb9.jpg)http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3806/betterscopes14attacknigcs5.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14attacknigcs5.jpg)
binocs WIP:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3919/binocswipwb2.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=binocswipwb2.jpg)
sneekyzeke
08-21-07, 06:54 AM
binocs WIP:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3919/binocswipwb2.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=binocswipwb2.jpg)
*drool* :|\\ :rock: :up:
Sailor Steve
08-21-07, 10:47 AM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/510/betterscopes14obsnightxd8.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes14obsnightxd8.jpg)
this is the obs scope at night. as you can see it could become quite difficult to make out the markings if the lighting conditions become much worse...I'd like to know how many of you prefer it this way [...]
i like it this way very much!!
would it be too much work to release two different versions of the obs? one for those of us who eat our carrots, and one for those who have difficulty with their nightvision?
I'm with him. I like the idea that night surface attacks are necessary because it's so hard to see anything with the scopes. I also recognize that most GAMERS want their EASY CHEATS :p :rotfl: (just kidding-I know everybody has different ideas on what should be and what shouldn't), and I agree that both options would be nice.
I may be able to have just one version. I just found out how i can adjust the color of the bearing strip more accurately (cheers jaketoox :up:) which made it possible for me to have the lines *all* gray again and i think this looks better than any color before :)
day and night screen of the attack scope:
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1630/betterscopes1jw6.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes1jw6.jpg)http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4177/betterscopes2ud8.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes2ud8.jpg)
binocs day & night:
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5453/betterscopes3uv7.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes3uv7.jpg)http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1552/betterscopes4gp3.th.jpg (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betterscopes4gp3.jpg)
suggestions?
i'm now starting with the uzo and the deckgun sight.
sneekyzeke
08-21-07, 01:47 PM
Looks like the best compromise to me! :yep: ( I knew you'd fix it) I also like the new bearing at the top of the binocs. Mod on baby brotha! :rock:
CaptainCox
08-21-07, 02:30 PM
No suggestions here. Looks bloody brilliant :sunny:
jaketoox
08-21-07, 04:27 PM
..way to go,man:up:....excellent job so far.....
...just made me think, why i have to wrestle with these things:/\\!!, when there is much more talented people to do it...:hmm:
jake
Kapt.Klaus
08-21-07, 08:13 PM
however - i'd recommend waiting for the new version as it's been resized to match the default again which would be more in line with yours. once i'm done i can send you the psd of the mask if you want, too.
Sure when you have it ready let me know... IM me and then I will give you my addie. Great to work togeather as shipmates!!
If there is anything I may be able to help you out with let me know. I am great with SKIN/ART work and can conver to DDS format, from my MODS I am sure you can tell that.
Happy sailing.....
Kapt.Klaus
TBT Day and night:
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6440/tbtdaymd6.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbtdaymd6.jpg)http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3379/tbtnightyt3.th.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tbtnightyt3.jpg)
I think i'll redo the binocs again to bring them more in line with how the TBT looks. Pretty satisfied with that one :)
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