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Gizzmoe
03-18-07, 12:56 AM
If you have technical questions or issues or gameplay questions this is the right place.

Subsim's SH4 Tactics & Tips: Guides and Trainings: TDC, Radar, Sonar and More (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108931)





Here you´ll get help if your system crashes, or if there are installation or sound/video card problems, or if you wanna upgrade your PC and are looking for advice.

Silent Hunter 4 System Requirements 4/5/07

Supported OS

: Windows® XP/Vista Only
Game comes on 1 DVD
Processor: 2GHz Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon (3GHz Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon recommended)
RAM: 1 GB (2 GB recommended)
Video Card: 128 MB RAM, DirectX 9–compliant, video card capable of rendering Pixel Shader 2.0 (256 MB RAM recommended) (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9 –compliant sound card
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c or later (included on game disk)
DVD ROM drive 4x or faster speed
Hard Drive Space: 6 GB
Multiplayer: Broadband connection with 128Kbps upstream or faster, (512Kbps upstream or faster needed to host online games)*Supported Video Cards:
ATI® RADEON® 9600/9700/9800, X300 to X850, X1300 to X1800
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6200/6600/6800/7800

Laptop models of these card are not supported.

Additional chipsets may be supported. For an up-to-date list please visit http://support.ubi.com (http://support.ubi.com/)

Check the Subsim Radio Room Forums for examples of other players who have successfully run the game on other cards, such as the Nvidia 8800 and other cards.

Can your computer run Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific?

Find out now and click the button below !

http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/rnt/rnw/img/enduser/srl_blue_nohead.jpg (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/ubi_srl?registration_option_id=4368)
Or surf to: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com...option_id=4368 (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/ubi_srl?registration_option_id=4368)

Common Tips
* Radar, Sonar explained (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/../sh4/sh4_66.htm)

* Be sure to install the DirectX that comes with the game.

* Some people have reported crashes after patching to v1.1. They say if you resintall the game and then patch, it fixes this.

* Currently Antialiasing doesn´t work and higher resolutions aren´t really hi-res. More informations here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=106588

Environmental Effects FPS Killer BUG aka. the killer Polygon aka the Borg cube (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108938)

Paajtor
03-18-07, 10:46 AM
Ok, 1st tip! :D

Reboot your PC after installing SH4.

After installing a PC-game, many players are tempted by the last setup-menu, asking them if they want to start the game straight away.
And then wonder why the game runs with bugs and glitches.

The reason why you need to reboot is, to make sure that the Windows-registry gets updated properly...new files & folders need a registry-entry, user-accounts need an update in the registry, dll's that came with the game need to be registered etc.
Only a reboot can make sure about that.

It's no garantee, that the game will run flawlessly...but it's always better to exclude as much error-sources as possible on 1st hand.

Drebbel
03-18-07, 11:12 AM
Ok, 1st tip! :D

Reboot your PC after installing SH4.


Ok, 1st question! :D

Why ?

Paajtor
03-18-07, 11:22 AM
Right...1st answer, lol.:lol:

After installing a PC-game, many players are tempted by the last setup-menu, asking them if they want to start the game straight away.
And then wonder why the game runs with bugs and glitches.

The reason why you need to reboot is, to make sure that the Windows-registry gets updated properly...new files & folders need a registry-entry, user-accounts need an update in the registry, dll's that came with the game need to be registered etc.
Only a reboot can make sure about that.

It's no garantee, that the game will run flawlessly...but it's always better to exclude as much error-sources as possible on 1st hand.

2nd tip :D:

defrag your HD after installing and rebooting

...to decrease loading-times.

Drebbel
03-18-07, 11:35 AM
Defrag my HD, man, I do that constantly, as soon as my pc goes in screensaver mode is does that automatically. And as soon as I reboot it will defrag files that are normally loaded as well.

Of course I realize rebooting never hurts but I also know that if there is even the smalles change this is neccesary the install software will tell you too. But lets not take this further. I was just being a smart ass :know:

Gizzmoe
03-19-07, 03:11 PM
FYI, I did some house cleaning and deleted some posts. We would like this thread to be as tidy as possible, to make it easier for everyone to find relevant informations.

highkoo
03-19-07, 03:36 PM
Hi all, just picked up SH4 and im having an issue with the zoom function not working.....any ideas?

I am assuming i can zoom with the mouse wheel like in SH3 yes/no ?

gonzlor
03-20-07, 07:38 AM
Zoom function is working perfectly for me so far.

highkoo
03-20-07, 08:07 AM
gonzlor: are you able to use mouse zoom while in external camera mode ??

gonzlor
03-20-07, 10:38 PM
gonzlor: are you able to use mouse zoom while in external camera mode ??

I'm not able to do that, but with the gun/deck view I can bring up binoculars by mouse wheel.

Lt. Staumeier
03-21-07, 03:23 AM
Hi there!

I'm having abysmal performance on my rig, in spite of it being par or above the recommended settings. I have choppy gameplay (periodic skips with about 1-1½ seconds apart) and very low framerate.

Machine:
P4 3,2 GHz Dual Core
2048 Mb RAM DDR2 4200
GeForce 6800 GTS 256 Mb
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS

I've tried running on max setting where it's completely unplayable and minimum where it's just not amusing at all. The skips never go away, regardless of resolution or graphic settings, but the framerates improve marginally when changing them. Any ideas? I'm at work right now, but I have one final thing to test and that's a clean reboot. Didn't do that.

highkoo
03-21-07, 03:40 AM
Hi there!

I'm having abysmal performance on my rig, in spite of it being par or above the recommended settings. I have choppy gameplay (periodic skips with about 1-1½ seconds apart) and very low framerate.

Machine:
P4 3,2 GHz Dual Core
2048 Mb RAM DDR2 4200
GeForce 6800 GTS 256 Mb
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS

I've tried running on max setting where it's completely unplayable and minimum where it's just not amusing at all. The skips never go away, regardless of resolution or graphic settings, but the framerates improve marginally when changing them. Any ideas? I'm at work right now, but I have one final thing to test and that's a clean reboot. Didn't do that.
Ok sounds like you may need to check your Nvidia Drivers settings first off then we can go from there. Check your task bar on the lower right hand of the screen for an Nvidia icon, click on it and ensure that both AA/AF (Antialiasing/Anisotropic) are set to App controll.
Did you install to the default loc?
Have you done a Virus/spyware check lately?
What Rezolution are you trying to run?
Have you installed the latest drivers for your 6800 GTS?
Do you have the latest version of Direct X?
Do you have the latest viersion drivers for your sound card?
Do you need to Defrag your hard-drive?
Also what kind of hard-drive do you have?

There are many other things we can go over depending on the results from the above, let me know if theres anything you dont understand ;)

Also so you know, we should be able to get you running pretty well with your current system so no worries:D ill do my best to walk you through it.

Lt. Staumeier
03-21-07, 05:37 AM
Hi there!

First thing I did was to reset the Nvidia settings to standard (ie app controlled), I also then checked to see if I had the latest drivers for my GFX card (93.71) and I had them. I updated my sound card drivers about a month ago, and Creative aren't THAT new on drivers all the time. But I'll check, just to be sure.

The hard drive shouldn't be fragmented since it's a near fresh reinstall of Windows XP on it, but I'll defragment it just in case. I'm running dualboot configuration on two harddrives.

1 SATA 200 Gb drive, splitted into 2 NTFS partitions. 40 Gb system 160 Gb storage.
1 IDE 160 Gb drive, splitted into 3 ext3 partitions. 35 Gb Root, 2 Gb swap, and 123 Gb home folder. Linux operating system.

I do boot on WXP, since I doubt SHIV will run under Linux ^^ I'm having Zone Alarm Security Suite as my protection in form of anti-virus/spyware, internet/OS firewall. I've tried running the game both with ZA on and off. No difference. Zone Alarm was set to "internet lock engaged" (meaning nothing goes out or in), and that should lock out any internet bog down of the system.

I've even downloaded a crack to remove the copy protection in case that was interfering with the system, but no difference. So I'm back to non-cracked, original .exe now.

Silent hunter is installed in NTFS partition C:, the system drive at c:\games\SH4.
DirectX version 9.0c.

Tried running the game in both 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Both run equally bad.

I'm at a loss here really :( Runs GREAT on my daddy's computer. (He loves SH :D:D) It's about the same spec as mine, but with a GeForce 7900 GT and some more juice in the processor.

highkoo
03-21-07, 05:52 AM
Hi there!

First thing I did was to reset the Nvidia settings to standard (ie app controlled), I also then checked to see if I had the latest drivers for my GFX card (93.71) and I had them. I updated my sound card drivers about a month ago, and Creative aren't THAT new on drivers all the time. But I'll check, just to be sure.

The hard drive shouldn't be fragmented since it's a near fresh reinstall of Windows XP on it, but I'll defragment it just in case. I'm running dualboot configuration on two harddrives.

1 SATA 200 Gb drive, splitted into 2 NTFS partitions. 40 Gb system 160 Gb storage.
1 IDE 160 Gb drive, splitted into 3 ext3 partitions. 35 Gb Root, 2 Gb swap, and 123 Gb home folder. Linux operating system.

I do boot on WXP, since I doubt SHIV will run under Linux ^^ I'm having Zone Alarm Security Suite as my protection in form of anti-virus/spyware, internet/OS firewall. I've tried running the game both with ZA on and off. No difference. Zone Alarm was set to "internet lock engaged" (meaning nothing goes out or in), and that should lock out any internet bog down of the system.

I've even downloaded a crack to remove the copy protection in case that was interfering with the system, but no difference. So I'm back to non-cracked, original .exe now.

Silent hunter is installed in NTFS partition C:, the system drive at c:\games\SH4.
DirectX version 9.0c.

Tried running the game in both 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Both run equally bad.

I'm at a loss here really :( Runs GREAT on my daddy's computer. (He loves SH :D:D) It's about the same spec as mine, but with a GeForce 7900 GT and some more juice in the processor.
Ok lets try something out real quick, start up SH4 and then ALT-Tab out to your desktop, then open up your Windows task manager Ctrl-Alt-Delet, go to the Processes tab and find the running silent hunter program, right click and select affinity to set it to use just one of your processor cores, then go back into SH4 and see if it helps at all.
Have you instaled the windows fix for dual core processors since your last reinstall of windows??
try the affinity thing and if that changes anything ill help get you all patched up

Lt. Staumeier
03-21-07, 06:23 AM
For the moment I'm sitting at work, so I can't test that out, but I'll do when I get home. I'm not aware of any dual-core fix for windows though O.o

Where do I find that? And what does it fix?

EDIT:
I DID check the taskmanager yesterday and SHIV was using about 1.1 Gb of RAM and about 53-60% CPU power constantly.

highkoo
03-21-07, 06:28 AM
For the moment I'm sitting at work, so I can't test that out, but I'll do when I get home. I'm not aware of any dual-core fix for windows though O.o

Where do I find that? And what does it fix?

EDIT:
I DID check the taskmanager yesterday and SHIV was using about 1.1 Gb of RAM and about 53-60% CPU power constantly.

It changes the way windows handles threading protocols with duel core Cpus, let me know what happens with changing the affinty when you get home.

Lt. Staumeier
03-21-07, 09:16 AM
Allright. I'll check it up ASAP when I'm back home. Only one more hour left until work's out. *taps foot*

Lt. Staumeier
03-21-07, 12:19 PM
Came home, rebooted my computer, started SHIV and it ran! O.o Ran "smoothly" enough to be playable. No skips and no abysmal framerate. Dunno what changed, but it runs now. Still gonna get a new GFX card though. I NEED this game to run at max rez :D

geetrue
03-21-07, 12:28 PM
Came home, rebooted my computer, started SHIV and it ran! O.o Ran "smoothly" enough to be playable. No skips and no abysmal framerate. Dunno what changed, but it runs now. Still gonna get a new GFX card though. I NEED this game to run at max rez :D

I hope this helps you and others with skips and studdering ... this man has a problem too and when he reboots the problem goes away. Something to do with:


my cache is normal sized until i play a game for a while...then it shoots way up past 2500MB. screens ... i'm trying to figure out why my x1900xt is studdering and a friend pointed out my cache gets huge. above pic's are after maybe 10 minutes of play, after a couple hours it gets well over 2500000.


anyway a lot of nice people are trying to help him too ... here's the link:

http://www.maximumpc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57821

Dane
03-21-07, 02:41 PM
Strange. My CD rom is working as I can view other cd's , but it will not install the game. I dont think I have auto run disabled, but not sure how to find out. Now here is the puzzle. I installed it on my laptop with out any problems, though I have not actually played game yet. I tried following the directions in the manual about looking for the setup.exe (I have found this before) but it keeps telling me that I need to insert the disk into the drive. I have no idea why it asks me this when the disk is inserted. The cd lights flash as if it is trying to read it but it doesn't. Now if there is a strange thing, I have an HP computer. My cd drive is the "F" drive which is under the area called "Device with removable storage" and the hard disk is the c drive and the hard disk "D" drive is where the HP recovery drive is located . Can yuo believe with waiting with anticipation and then this happens??!! I am at a loss as what to do. How come I can't find the game in a folder area and it keeps asking me to insert the disk? Thank you so much

Dane
03-21-07, 02:55 PM
I have no idea, but no the game is installing. It was like my computer took a vacation for 45 minutes. Probably knew that it was going to get tested with SH 4 for many days to come. Thank you. All fixed, I think.

Psyon
03-21-07, 03:32 PM
I have no idea, but no the game is installing. It was like my computer took a vacation for 45 minutes. Probably knew that it was going to get tested with SH 4 for many days to come. Thank you. All fixed, I think.

i am glad you got it working.

the story below is for those rare times when you just cannot find the problem when your cd is not reading and your computer says "please insert disk" when you know damm well there is a cd in there:huh:

......

this used to happen to me all the time, i would just buy another cd-rom since they are a dime a dozen now-a-days.

untill my boys' playstation stop reading any disks one day and they both started searching for a fix. they found out that there is an adjustment inside the cd reader that raises and/or lowers the laser doohickey:hmm: the kids took the most scratched up game cd they could find and kept adjusting it till it read it. from then on, that playstaion reads everything short of a all the way through cracked disk :yep:

i had them go at my two old cd drives that could not read the broad side of a barn. sure enough both work fine now...

Jeffg
03-21-07, 09:11 PM
I just installed SH4 no problems with install but when I tried to run the sim I got the following message Error:Can Not Initialize 3D Engine.I than click ok and CTD here are my systems specs
P4 3,2 GHz
2048 Mb RAM DDR2 4200
ATI 1600 with 512 ram on card
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS
I rebooted the computer after I installed the sim also.

JeffG

akdavis
03-21-07, 09:15 PM
I've run into a wall with this game I've never hit before. I keep getting dumped from the game with errors. They are a variation on this:

AppName: sh4.exe AppVer: 1.0.0.0 ModName: sh4.exe
ModVer: 1.0.0.0 Offset: 0000fe18

Everything is fine for 5 or 10 minutes, then the error pops up and the sim closes. Happens regardless of what I do, even if I just let the game sit there (although I haven't figured out if it happens if leave it sitting in the main menu screen).

I got the game as a download from Ubi.com. I installed the latest directx on the CD, then downloaded the latest and installed to make sure. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the game twice now.

waste gate
03-21-07, 09:17 PM
I just installed SH4 no problems with install but when I tried to run the sim I got the following message Error:Can Not Initialize 3D Engine.I than click ok and CTD here are my systems specs
P4 3,2 GHz
2048 Mb RAM DDR2 4200
ATI 1600 with 512 ram on card
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS
I rebooted the computer after I installed the sim also.

JeffG

I'm not a big tech guy, but I have received the same message with SH3.
Uninstall everything, including the files in 'My Documents' and reinstall. I know it takes some time but it has been the only means of cleaning the problem in SH3.

Jeffg
03-21-07, 09:21 PM
Thanks I will try that and see what happens.
Jeff

minsc_tdp
03-21-07, 11:02 PM
Well I'm only 5 minutes into trying this after install and already have the following problems:

1. GameShadow crashes trying to add the game EDIT: Fixed, my system was unstable
2. SH4.EXE starts OK but crashes upon exit EDIT: Fixed, my system was unstable
3. 1280x720 is not in the list. This is fatal for me. The guy in one of the interview videos said, "If your computer supports a resolution it will work with SH4." Well that's BS. This is fatal since the 8800 XP drivers are complete trash right now and only work well at 1024x768 or 1280x720 on my 720p 56" DLP TV. Higher resolutions (1080i and variants) all overscan and the underscan feature on the drivers is completely broken. The only way I could make 1024x768 work properly was to create custom timings.

I guess I have to play at 1024x768 for now, but I couldn't be more pissed about it.

EDIT: Update after a few hours of play. The visuals are truly stunning. Even at this resolution, they're so good I hardly mind it. The complaints about the crew are unfounded I believe - semi transparent yes, not a big deal unless you stare at a crew member for more than a second or two, and you should be looking for boats not watching these guys.

I'm running on an overclocked E6600 at 3.3 GHz and a Geforce 8800 GTS, and I have all the settings cranked to the max, and the framerate is great. I'm glad I built a new system just for this game. :) The initial instabilities were due to aggressive overclocking - I was stable for days and for some reason it picked today to go bad. I fired up Serious Sam which I played for hours last night and it crashed 10 seconds in, so I pulled back the CPU clocks from 3.6 to 3.3 GHz, and increased the CPU voltage a bit, and all is good.

Other problems:
1. The radar simply didn't work at all on the convoy training mission, even though it says to use it. Maybe I'm using it wrong.

2. The convoy mission recommends that you "continue submerged" at the start, but you start surfaced and are immediately spotted. Unless you move fast you get sunk, and then you're past the convoy. I don't think this was intended since it's supposed to teach you how to shoot at the convoy.

3. I can barely, barely hear depth charges that sink my boat. This is really nasty since I'm really not sure if I'm being attacked or not.

4. Realistic Battery seems to drain it awfully quick. Way quicker than I expected but I might have simply multiplied the time too much. This was on the convoy training, and my battery failed before the convoy even crossed my path.

5. The deck gun, when zoomed in at either magnification, suddenly refused to shoot short distances - the shot would either land 15 feet from the boat, or ~2500 meters, but nowhere in between. This also affected when I asked the crew to shoot for me - they would unload shot after shot into the water 15 feet from the boat.

6. I enabled the option for Realistic Sound Travel Time but I notice in Main.cfg that SoundTravel=false, so I'm wondering if this is even working.

7. I'm wondering why DynamicShadows=No in Main.cfg when all options have been cranked to the max in the game. Seems like they just didn't put this on the UI for some reason. Anyone know if it does anything on =Yes?

8. The lack of FSAA really does hurt the quality and should be fixed, if at all possible, even if it requires that we turn off some of the higher end graphic features.

9. The lack of interactivity with the 3D view of various controls really does suck as well. It was terrible in SH3 but at least it was there, to some degree.

Overall I'm very happy with the game, though I haven't done much beyond the Training yet. Even with the problems it's a huge advancement over SH3 visually. The show stopper I had with SH3 was corrupted savegames during heavy activity so I hope the same doesn't happen here.

highkoo
03-22-07, 02:35 AM
Came home, rebooted my computer, started SHIV and it ran! O.o Ran "smoothly" enough to be playable. No skips and no abysmal framerate. Dunno what changed, but it runs now. Still gonna get a new GFX card though. I NEED this game to run at max rez :D

Hey im glad to hear you got your issues sorted out :up:

Good hunting :D

Ragtag
03-22-07, 05:58 AM
Has anyone gotten Multiplayer on internet to work?
I have opened up all ports but there are no games coming up and refresh seems porked (not sure though). I tried setting up games but no one joins...help, i'm scared:o :lol:

akdavis
03-22-07, 04:15 PM
I really need some help here. I always get dumped out of the game with an error after playing for a random amount of time (not connected to any particular action in game). I have no idea how to copy the full report text, as I can't select it with the cursor, but the first file mentioned is usally sh4.exe and then a series of different .dll files.

I downloaded the game from Ubi.

I've installed latest video and sound drivers. I've uninstalled and reinstalled game.

This is making the game completely unplayable for me. If someone knows a way to contact someone for technical support, please let me know. Ubi support won't even let me post a question.

Thanks.

Iron Budokan
03-22-07, 05:26 PM
I installed the game and got these error messages when I tried to play:

ps_1_x not supported in this version of the compiler

Data/Shaders/Interior Illumination/InteriorIlluminationP5.fx

Data/Shaders/Radar/PPIRadarP5.fx

Can anyone tell me what this means and how I might go about correcting it? I have a clean install with patch 1.1. Thank you!

Iron Budokan
03-22-07, 05:50 PM
I have an ATI Radeon 9250, so is that too old for this game? If so, what card can I get since all I have are PCI ports? Again, any help would be gratefully accepted....

Iron Budokan
03-22-07, 06:09 PM
Here are my specs from my Dell sheet:

P4, 2.8 GHz, 533, 1 MB

and last year I put in 2 G of Ram.

What I have worked fine with SH3. I've looked for gfx cards for my PCI slots, any ideas? Thanks!

Tieg
03-22-07, 06:12 PM
I have a problem...more of the gameplay more than anything. I started my career in the Tambor class boat...I also added radar...the twin 20mm AA...and the 4 50's bow mounted. Now my problem is when I go to PD first I sink out of site and the first time was in shallow water and I bounced off the bottom...once I got back up to pd...I run with my bow down so much deeper then my stern that I have about a 20 to 30 degree down angle and my periscope doesn't even reach out of the water...is it because I mounted the guns forward vice aft of the conning tower? I doubt seriously that this game is so much that you have to adjust trim. Cause if that is the case I'm going to disqualify my chief of the watch as well as my diving officer for not keeping a good trim. DISREGARD...JUST DON'T PUT A GUN FORWARD OF THE CONNING TOWER ON A BOAT THAT IS NOT SUPPOSE TO HAVE ONE.

Iron Budokan
03-22-07, 06:39 PM
Would a Radeon X1300 be an acceptable game for this card? Thank you!

Barkhorn1x
03-22-07, 07:08 PM
Anyone see a screenshot like this - notice the unwanted "striations" on the boat:

I am running a 7600GT 256MG card. Anyone know how to fix this?http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6880/sh4imghj3.jpg

akdavis
03-22-07, 09:11 PM
Although not visible in that screenshot, I also get the "banding" on the deck texture with my 6800 Ultras (or one of them in single GPU mode).

El-Fish
03-22-07, 09:26 PM
I have an ATI Radeon 9250, so is that too old for this game? If so, what card can I get since all I have are PCI ports? Again, any help would be gratefully accepted....

Hi, I just saw a NVIDIA 6200 OC at Best Buy that was PCI. The reason I remember it is that it seemed to support up to pixel shador 3.0......but I'll leave it to the experts as to if it would work with SHIV.

Iron Budokan
03-22-07, 09:51 PM
Thanks everyone. I just installed a Radeon X1300 and it seems to be working fine now....

El-Fish
03-22-07, 10:55 PM
Thanks everyone. I just installed a Radeon X1300 and it seems to be working fine now....

That's great news! :up:

Doomgiver
03-22-07, 11:05 PM
i have a nividia gf5700 and when i started the game it worked fine until it finished loading then i got a error message, i never got to the main menu:nope:

i then tryed it with a altra raddon 1600x and i start the game the colors for the starting are all messed up and when it finishes loading i get an error message

Doomgiver
03-22-07, 11:27 PM
i have a nividia gf5700 and when i started the game it worked fine until it finished loading then i got a error message, i never got to the main menu

i then tryed it with a altra raddon 1600x and i start the game the colors for the starting are all messed up and when it finishes loading i get an error message

Gizzmoe
03-23-07, 12:33 AM
What´s the error message? Maybe it helps to update the video card driver.

Kumando
03-23-07, 05:08 AM
P4 3.0
1,5 DDR 400
Gforce 6600 GT AGP

The game drops the framerate drastically in the control room when i turn to see the navigator and the naigation map, if i face to the bow planes guy the fps turns to normal. Any ideas?

rigidkitchen
03-23-07, 05:37 AM
:damn:
Hi, I just did a fresh install of both the game and the patch on a defragged hard drive. Sometimes the securom thing pops up, sometimes it doesn't.


I am running sh4 on:

athlon 64 3500+
2 gigs of dual channel RAM
6800 GT

It's above the minimum specs. It shows up in the task manager at like 95-100% of CPU usage! It doesn't start up though...

What could this be

Zatoichi
03-23-07, 07:24 AM
Here's a trick I do to help performance when I play a game that's a little intense for my system:
Windows XP:
Start>Run> MSCONFIG
Pick Selective Startup and uncheck:
Process SYSTEM.INI File
Process WIN.INI File
Load Startup Items
(LEAVE load System Services checked please.)
Switch to the Services Tab and mark the box that says:
Hide All Microsoft Services
Click Disable All
(Note: this will attempt to stop all running services, I disconnect my network cable so no Internet access. Not a good solution for MultiPlayer, but OK for Single.)
Click OK and the system will ask you to restart, Yes do restart. The computer will restart without all the other "Stuff" just what is needed to make your computer function, and the game should smooth out a bit for you.
After the reboot you'll see a message that you're running in Maintenance mode or something to that effect; OK it and close the MSCONFIG menu without changing anything: enjoy SH4/SH3 etc.

Undo: Run MSCONFIG again as above, and select Normal Startup - load all device drivers and services. Reboot and you're back to "normal".

Hope this eases some of the pain, Works great for my setup, was a MUST for Oblivion with all the mods.

Ichi...

Doomgiver
03-23-07, 07:39 AM
the error message is that the computer needs to close the game

it has send error message and don't send at the bottom

fastfed
03-23-07, 08:36 AM
I cannot remember what it is, but when I tried to install it, it just comes up with an error and gives me 3 options, details,report and ok..

I tried rebooting and stuff, but its still not working, I even installed it on a Cd, and put the file in the actual folder.. It is saying something about a .dll file, and on the bottom of details something about service pack 2..

Anyone have and idea??

OneTinSoldier
03-23-07, 08:54 AM
Well, I can't help much partly because I don't have the game yet... or, who knows, maybe I will be able to help.

First, are you running WinXP and do you have SP2 installed for WinXP? If so, have you installed any mods at all?

Are you against completely uninstalling the game, deleting the SH4 Programs folder and the one for it in 'My Documents'(in case they don't get deleted for some reason when uninstalling, check and make sure!), reinstalling the game from scratch, and then trying to patch it?

fastfed
03-23-07, 08:56 AM
Well, I can't help much partly because I don't have the game yet... or, who knows, maybe I will be able to help.

First, are you running WinXP and do you have SP2 installed for WinXP? If so, have you installed any mods at all?

Are you against completely uninstalling the game, deleting the SH4 Programs folder and the one for it in 'My Documents'(in case they don't get deleted for some reason when uninstalling, check and make sure!), reinstalling the game from scratch, and then trying to patch it?

I rather not reinstall the entire game UNLESS I HAVE TO, It took along time to install..

mountainmanUK
03-23-07, 09:01 AM
I'm still awaiting my copy dropping through the letterbox (Amazon say either today or tomorrow!)...but just a thought.....

Maybe your Antivirus prog is somehow interrupting the Patch installation?
Have you tried closing down all your running "background" progs before attempting to patch?

Hope this helps!

rigidkitchen
03-23-07, 09:05 AM
well i reformatted my windows partition and i'll go from there.

things were acting funny to begin with! any suggestions though?

rigidkitchen
03-23-07, 09:10 AM
When I click on the shortcut the game acts like it's loading and then stops acting like it's loading... I checked in the task manager and it says that it's still running!!! sh4.exe @ 99% cpu load but no window or indication that it's running otherwise

I tried the .exe but again, same thing (although the securom thing came and went)

Really weird! Someone have any suggestions?

Seeadler
03-23-07, 09:48 AM
Did you installed tools from this side?
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Processesandthreadsutilities.mspx

particularly ProcessExplorer, a handy tool for sys admins produce with SecuROM copyprotection this error. At game start with original disk in drive the SecuRom error (5024) dialog popped up

see also
http://forum.sysinternals.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10337&PN=1

OneTinSoldier
03-23-07, 09:52 AM
I rather not reinstall the entire game UNLESS I HAVE TO, It took along time to install..

Yep, I can understand that. It might be your best bet though. Maybe someone can come up with a way to solve this for you without you having to uninstall and reinstall. But for right now it's all I can think of, especially since I have VERY little details about the error message.

fastfed
03-23-07, 09:53 AM
I'm still awaiting my copy dropping through the letterbox (Amazon say either today or tomorrow!)...but just a thought.....

Maybe your Antivirus prog is somehow interrupting the Patch installation?
Have you tried closing down all your running "background" progs before attempting to patch?

Hope this helps!

EVERYTHING! is turned off.

leeclose
03-23-07, 10:10 AM
Heres a question how wellwil the following GFX card run SH4:

Geforce 7600 GS
Memory 512MB GDDR2
Core Frequency 400MHz
Memory Frequency 667MHz
RAMDAC 400MHz
Interface PCI-Express
Pixel Per Clock 12
Memory Bus 128-bit
Max. Resolution 2560 x 1600
SLI Ready Yes

Zatoichi
03-23-07, 10:21 AM
When I click on the shortcut the game acts like it's loading and then stops acting like it's loading... I checked in the task manager and it says that it's still running!!! sh4.exe @ 99% cpu load but no window or indication that it's running otherwise

I tried the .exe but again, same thing (although the securom thing came and went)

Really weird! Someone have any suggestions?

Could you post your system hardware/software config?
Processor speed, Memory, HDD Space (free), Video Adaptor MAke/Model Memory?
These things can help diagnose the issue you might be having.
Thanks,
Ichi..

Kumando
03-23-07, 10:52 AM
P4 3.0
1,5 DDR 400
Gforce 6600 GT AGP

The game drops the framerate drastically in the control room when i turn to see the navigator and the naigation map, if i face to the bow planes guy the fps turns to normal. Any ideas?

Can someone help?

fastfed
03-23-07, 11:14 AM
anything else guys?

Javelin
03-23-07, 11:29 AM
Lately when playing sh3 the CD spins forever, and will not load. after many attempts of in and out, it finally will load. Thought there was a problem and bought another copy of sh3 with the same results. Now today I buy sh4 and behold the same problem. other ubi disc play with no problem. Guess it maybe the underwater that does something. Any help will be appreciated.

rigidkitchen
03-23-07, 11:33 AM
Could you post your system hardware/software config?
Processor speed, Memory, HDD Space (free), Video Adaptor MAke/Model Memory?
These things can help diagnose the issue you might be having.
Thanks,
Ichi..

hardware:
AMD Athlon x64 3500+ 2.2 Ghz
2 GB DDR RAM
nvidia 6800GT 256mb agp8x
Maxtor 7200RPM HDD 45 GB partition ~ 30 GB Free

Software:
Windows XP SP2 up-to-date

I'm above the required specs so I know that's not the issue...


---------------------------

I just did a reformat so maybe I had some weird leftover drivers or something. I'll try reinstalling tonight or this weekend and report back if no one else has any suggestions

rigidkitchen
03-23-07, 11:37 AM
Lately when playing sh3 the CD spins forever, and will not load. after many attempts of in and out, it finally will load. Thought there was a problem and bought another copy of sh3 with the same results. Now today I buy sh4 and behold the same problem. other ubi disc play with no problem. Guess it maybe the underwater that does something. Any help will be appreciated.

That, my friend, is SecuROM working it's magic and asserting it's dominance over your puny DVD drive

or you need to spend 25 - 35 bucks on a new DVD (R/RW) drive

fastfed
03-23-07, 11:39 AM
Ok well my post was moved but its all messed up in here..

I CANNOT INSTALL THE PATCH GUYS!! Please someone help..

I double click the icon and it gives me an error with three options..

Detail,report and ok

I forget the error code but in the details page it give a .dll issue..

I rebooted the computer and all, nothing!!

WTF!!?!?! :(

MRV
03-23-07, 12:09 PM
Just got a copy of SH4 and installed it....and, as if it was too beautiful otherwise....IT DOESN'T WORK! :damn:

Instead of starting the game, SH4.exe gives me an error-message "d3dx9_32.dll not found"

DirectX 9.0c is already on my system and even IF I try to install it from SH4.exe it tells me that there is not enough space available, which is complete b*llsh*t because I have around 30 GB free on the target drive.

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 12:10 PM
Ok well my post was moved but its all messed up in here..

I CANNOT INSTALL THE PATCH GUYS!! Please someone help..

I double click the icon and it gives me an error with three options..

Detail,report and ok

I forget the error code but in the details page it give a .dll issue..

I rebooted the computer and all, nothing!!

WTF!!?!?! :(

Delete the original download of the patch. Make sure you have the correct patch. I see one that says German and another that just says patch. The English version was I believe 116MB. Perhaps you have the wrong patch.

Spaxspore
03-23-07, 12:16 PM
Just got a copy of SH4 and installed it....and, as if it was too beautiful otherwise....IT DOESN'T WORK! :damn:

Instead of starting the game, SH4.exe gives me an error-message "d3dx9_32.dll not found"

DirectX 9.0c is already on my system and even IF I try to install it from SH4.exe it tells me that there is not enough space available, which is complete b*llsh*t because I have around 30 GB free on the target drive.

google for d3dx9_32.dll, once found place it in c:\windows\system directory

wolfast
03-23-07, 12:26 PM
Heres a question how wellwil the following GFX card run SH4:

Geforce 7600 GS
Memory 512MB GDDR2
Core Frequency 400MHz
Memory Frequency 667MHz
RAMDAC 400MHz
Interface PCI-Express
Pixel Per Clock 12
Memory Bus 128-bit
Max. Resolution 2560 x 1600
SLI Ready Yes
some people are going to say no with the 512MB memory....
BUT..... I have a "old" Vaio running
Duel 2.8Ghz Pent. 4
512 GB Memory
ATI X1300 GPU
and I can run it fine..... ON LOW SETTINGS!!!!:D
Im going to 1 GB mem today... in harbor there is a small slow down...
But for those who say it CANT run with 512 mem :arrgh!: .... sorry It does with my setup....

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 12:30 PM
I have an ATI Radeon 9250, so is that too old for this game? If so, what card can I get since all I have are PCI ports? Again, any help would be gratefully accepted....
Hi, I just saw a NVIDIA 6200 OC at Best Buy that was PCI. The reason I remember it is that it seemed to support up to pixel shador 3.0......but I'll leave it to the experts as to if it would work with SHIV.

I have the 6200 OC. Not fast enough. It is hooked to AMD 3200+ and 1 gig. I can play with everything on low. Get a better card bro.

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 12:32 PM
Thanks everyone. I just installed a Radeon X1300 and it seems to be working fine now....

I'm getting one today. The old 6200 just ain't got it:nope:

Skorak
03-23-07, 01:39 PM
Hi all, just picked up SH4 and im having an issue with the zoom function not working.....any ideas?

I am assuming i can zoom with the mouse wheel like in SH3 yes/no ?
Me Too, Any Ideas? Also, some times the view own ship "." gives a wonky sideways view. The whole creen is tillted sideways and not centered on any ship.

MRV
03-23-07, 01:49 PM
Ok, that Startup-Problem has self-solved somehow.

Now I notice another funny thing ingame: the performance.

My System is:
3500 Athlon 64
2 Gigs of RAM
Radeon X1950 Pro


One should think that this system is capable of something. And on graphics preset "high" (with that filter turned off) it normally works fine......for about 5 Minutes....

Then the game has short lags every half second or something like this.....my mouse and vision moves slow and the game is playable but not really enjoyable. Any suggestions?

cmdrk
03-23-07, 01:53 PM
P4 3.0
1,5 DDR 400
Gforce 6600 GT AGP

The game drops the framerate drastically in the control room when i turn to see the navigator and the naigation map, if i face to the bow planes guy the fps turns to normal. Any ideas?
Can someone help?

I have the same problem. I have a:
P4 2.4ghz
1.5 G ram
GeForce 6600 GT AGP card with 128m DDR2 memory.

I have the card settings to optimize perfomance and the game settings to low, low rez, no high textures checked. I get sporadic frame rates from 14 to 40 in most views, but the trying to look at the map table and the navigator brings it to 2 fps. It even slows keyboard response.

I have notice that the fps drop doesn't occur in an S boat and the Gato is about 20 fps, but others boats just about stop it. I found the game graphics settings to medium doesn't hurt the fps much.

I also see the game stutter at times.

I didn't install gameshadow.

I've updated the drivers and the usual tips were done.

Sorry I can't help, but it's not just you.

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 01:59 PM
Ok, that Startup-Problem has self-solved somehow.

Now I notice another funny thing ingame: the performance.

My System is:
3500 Athlon 64
2 Gigs of RAM
Radeon X1950 Pro


One should think that this system is capable of something. And on graphics preset "high" (with that filter turned off) it normally works fine......for about 5 Minutes....

Then the game has short lags every half second or something like this.....my mouse and vision moves slow and the game is playable but not really enjoyable. Any suggestions?


Look for the thread on ATI and overclock issues. It is current.

fastfed
03-23-07, 02:07 PM
Ok well my post was moved but its all messed up in here..

I CANNOT INSTALL THE PATCH GUYS!! Please someone help..

I double click the icon and it gives me an error with three options..

Detail,report and ok

I forget the error code but in the details page it give a .dll issue..

I rebooted the computer and all, nothing!!

WTF!!?!?! :(

Delete the original download of the patch. Make sure you have the correct patch. I see one that says German and another that just says patch. The English version was I believe 116MB. Perhaps you have the wrong patch.

No, I have the 116mb patch. It just gives me the same error..

I reinstalled the game at lunch and its still not installing the damn patch!

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 02:09 PM
Ok well my post was moved but its all messed up in here..

I CANNOT INSTALL THE PATCH GUYS!! Please someone help..

I double click the icon and it gives me an error with three options..

Detail,report and ok

I forget the error code but in the details page it give a .dll issue..

I rebooted the computer and all, nothing!!

WTF!!?!?! :(
Delete the original download of the patch. Make sure you have the correct patch. I see one that says German and another that just says patch. The English version was I believe 116MB. Perhaps you have the wrong patch.
No, I have the 116mb patch. It just gives me the same error..

I reinstalled the game at lunch and its still not installing the damn patch!

You might have to contact UBI:shifty:

poncho
03-23-07, 03:24 PM
I have the following system specs:

AMD Athlon 2GHZ~2.4
2GHZ of memory RAM
G Force 6800 128MB DDR AGP 8X

Will I have problems running SH 4 ? Will this run too slow to bother until I upgrade in the future ?:arrgh!:

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 03:34 PM
I have the following system specs:

AMD Athlon 2GHZ~2.4
2GHZ of memory RAM
G Force 6800 128MB DDR AGP 8X

Will I have problems running SH 4 ? Will this run too slow to bother until I upgrade in the future ?:arrgh!:

From all the things I have been reading on the others systems and how it runs. The 6800 might be slow but the 2 gig RAM might compensate.

My set up is 3200+ AMD, 6200OC vid card and 1 gig RAM. It runs but everything on low. I would say you are darn close to running it fairly well. Today I'm grabbing a better card.

tener
03-23-07, 03:43 PM
hi all,just a quick one.....got the game today,loaded it and patched it up and i must say............WOW THIS GAME IS SOOOOOO SWEET.it runs well at very nearly hight GFX settings.1 thing tho,i have 2 hard drives,80 and a 120gb.xp is on the 80gb and SHIV is on the 120gb.....my ? is,would the game run better if it was on the same drive as windows xp??
cheers all.

Gizzmoe
03-23-07, 03:46 PM
would the game run better if it was on the same drive as windows xp??

No.

tener
03-23-07, 03:54 PM
would the game run better if it was on the same drive as windows xp??

No.
cheers,short and sweet.:cool:

stabiz
03-23-07, 04:39 PM
Well, this game runs terribly on my computer, specs in signature. Tried unchecking all settings except enviromental effects (need that transparent water), and still mad stutters in the light fog, and around 40fps. One would think my system is enough. There is something wrong with that fog, since I get instant 70-80fps below the surface. (nothing in view, not even land)

clayp
03-23-07, 06:15 PM
Just installed SH4 and get this error message when I try to start it..(d3dx9_32.dll not found) How do I fix this please....

DUH read a little farther in the forum and found the answer....:)

Arkon
03-23-07, 06:16 PM
Have Downloaded SH4 Restarted Did the patch restarted set up the settings it is abit jerky but tolarible, Now I have found that when you press the (A) button to maintaiin depth it CTD & I have one of those messages -send error report - & I have done the AA/Af Plus the V-sycn


My Specs are AMD 4200-64x2
2gb of ram
300gb memory
Nivida 6600le
500gb external memory

rascal101
03-23-07, 07:06 PM
I have a differnet PC configuration, but just discovered the same ctd when pressing A to level off a dive.

Does any one know if the dev team are working on a second patch?

Have Downloaded SH4 Restarted Did the patch restarted set up the settings it is abit jerky but tolarible, Now I have found that when you press the (A) button to maintaiin depth it CTD & I have one of those messages -send error report - & I have done the AA/Af Plus the V-sycn


My Specs are AMD 4200-64x2
2gb of ram
300gb memory
Nivida 6600le
500gb external memory

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 07:26 PM
Ok, she runs great with these specs:

AMD64 3200+
1 gig RAM
ATI X1300 512mb card

It runs better with post processing on:up: Everything else mid line and water glare on.

stabiz
03-23-07, 07:44 PM
Is that with or without enviromental effects, avg? That is the killer for me. The sad thing is that I would gladly pass on the fog and stuff, but the translucent water is part of that effect.

Marko_Ramius
03-23-07, 08:24 PM
Please, what the hell call you " post-process" ?? I don't see it :-? ( French game with patch 1.1)

Thanks.

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 08:41 PM
Is that with or without enviromental effects, avg? That is the killer for me. The sad thing is that I would gladly pass on the fog and stuff, but the translucent water is part of that effect.

Yes, environment is on. Translucent water in effect. The night time glare with the moon and the sun coming up is absolutely stunning.

It truly is a beautiful game with post processing on:yep:. I do not believe this game was ment to have AA. I believe AA would ruin the effect of the post processing. Just my thoughts on it.

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 08:42 PM
Please, what the hell call you " post-process" ?? I don't see it :-? ( French game with patch 1.1)

Thanks.


It is in the options page when the game is open to play.

Kumando
03-23-07, 09:29 PM
P4 3.0
1,5 DDR 400
Gforce 6600 GT AGP

The game drops the framerate drastically in the control room when i turn to see the navigator and the naigation map, if i face to the bow planes guy the fps turns to normal. Any ideas?
Can someone help?

I have the same problem. I have a:
P4 2.4ghz
1.5 G ram
GeForce 6600 GT AGP card with 128m DDR2 memory.

I have the card settings to optimize perfomance and the game settings to low, low rez, no high textures checked. I get sporadic frame rates from 14 to 40 in most views, but the trying to look at the map table and the navigator brings it to 2 fps. It even slows keyboard response.

I have notice that the fps drop doesn't occur in an S boat and the Gato is about 20 fps, but others boats just about stop it. I found the game graphics settings to medium doesn't hurt the fps much.

I also see the game stutter at times.

I didn't install gameshadow.

I've updated the drivers and the usual tips were done.

Sorry I can't help, but it's not just you.

I dont think the problem is related to poor graphics card or other spec performance it should be game related, because it shouldnt drop the fps so bad with all settings in low specially in an indoor environement like the control room. I hope future patches will fix this:-?.

badaboom
03-23-07, 09:52 PM
Hello there Skippers!!!....Is there anything I can do to improve my FPS?
I love how it looks but FPS are a bit low.here's a pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/SH4Img23-3-2007_17.jpg

cmdrk
03-23-07, 10:29 PM
P4 3.0
1,5 DDR 400
Gforce 6600 GT AGP

The game drops the framerate drastically in the control room when i turn to see the navigator and the naigation map, if i face to the bow planes guy the fps turns to normal. Any ideas?
Can someone help?
I have the same problem. I have a:
P4 2.4ghz
1.5 G ram
GeForce 6600 GT AGP card with 128m DDR2 memory.

I have the card settings to optimize perfomance and the game settings to low, low rez, no high textures checked. I get sporadic frame rates from 14 to 40 in most views, but the trying to look at the map table and the navigator brings it to 2 fps. It even slows keyboard response.

I have notice that the fps drop doesn't occur in an S boat and the Gato is about 20 fps, but others boats just about stop it. I found the game graphics settings to medium doesn't hurt the fps much.

I also see the game stutter at times.

I didn't install gameshadow.

I've updated the drivers and the usual tips were done.

Sorry I can't help, but it's not just you.
I dont think the problem is related to poor graphics card or other spec performance it should be game related, because it shouldnt drop the fps so bad with all settings in low specially in an indoor environement like the control room. I hope future patches will fix this:-?.

I'm thinking that also, because of the difference in the different boat interiors. Do you experience the FPS improvement in the Gato? Like the other control rooms are trying to render a hell of a lot more polygons.

I'm going to play with my settings some more. I drop a line if I discover anything.

AVGWarhawk
03-23-07, 10:47 PM
Hello there Skippers!!!....Is there anything I can do to improve my FPS?
I love how it looks but FPS are a bit low.here's a pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v27/badaboom/SH4Img23-3-2007_17.jpg

I find the post processing filter increase frames.

Mad_Mark
03-23-07, 10:49 PM
I cant get rid of skips in my set up without turning off envoiroment effects and even then the skips are still slightly noticable.
With all set to max with everything on apart from windowed setting I get on average 60 fps but terrible stuttering about every 2 seconds.
Leave all to max but envoiroment effects off I get about 110 fps with very slight stuttering.
I have done the cfg file v,sync and 1 core only changes but that did nothing for me.
I can pause the game and move about with camara and still get stuttering.
I have latest drivers on all hardware installed including chip set and bios sound and DX and graphics .
Dont know what it is.
Also spent a lot of time in riva tuner going over many option but nothing made the slightest differance including just default settings.
Stuttering with over 100+ fps is a puzzle and apart from driver issue I cannot think of what it could be.
Cannot play like it is.
One thing though for a while the stuttering did stop on its own then as soon as night time came they returned and have stayed ever since.

badaboom
03-23-07, 11:24 PM
AVGWARHAWK....Thank You Sir!!!!I'll try this out:up:

Jackson
03-24-07, 12:03 AM
Hello everyone new to the subsim forums but have always loved playing submarine games. I remember watching my dad play silent service on his Commodore 64 and having a blast as so did I when I would play it on the NES. Love all the SH games but after buying this one and installing it and trying to get it to work for 2 hours I would always get the securerom 7000 error. Read that it might be becuase of Dameon Tools which I used for a couple games just because I hate the fact of putting CD or DVD in the computer constantly to play a game. So I uninstalled Dameon Tools and cleared it from the windows registry but with no avail. Ended up getting a no dvd crack and now experience the same 2d crew man bugs, crew always calling out numbers. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this and if they know how to fix it. Would love to play the game in its full glory.

Seadogs
03-24-07, 03:06 AM
Hey guys.

After installing SHIV I noticed intense corruption in the intro movie, massive green and red splotches on bright areas. No biggie I thought since this is not the first time I have had a UBI game with a jacked up intro. Turns out anything I play with WMP 11 is jacked up now too. So i'm guessing its a codec problem or a problem with the Direct X update. I did disable Direct X acceleration in the media player with zero results.

Refresh my memory, was there a codec update with the SHIV install? If thats it how would I go about fixing that?

System specs:

C2D e6700 @stock speed
Vista home premium
Nvidia 8800GTX @stock speed (I always have updated drivers. i'm a technophile:oops: )
2 Gig RAM
Windows media player 11

EDIT:
This is going to take some investigating (but i dont wanna I want to play :damn: ).

Well, I guess I'll start by posting at some speciality tech spots and Ubi.

I am very interested in anyone having this problem w/ specs. As soon as I find something I promise to report back.

Zero Niner
03-24-07, 03:11 AM
yes, there is an install option for media 9 codecs (or some such). I installed those, but I've no probles with Windows Media Player (ver 11)

pccitgo99
03-24-07, 03:19 AM
I have installed SH4, rebooted, loaded the 1.1 patch and went to run the game.

Instead of being able to play I get an erroneous message stating that I have got the wrong CD/DVD in the drive. Well it is the one that came in the box and the DVD drive is the same one that installed the game.

What are my options? Demand another disk from Ubisoft, Uninstall and re install. I am not keen to go for any cracks as I see that causes problems with speech and 2D characters. I paid honest money for the game and I think I should be able to install and play without this sort of hassle. :cry:

Darkbluesky
03-24-07, 04:32 AM
Hello,

I hope you could help me. My current rig is:

Asus mobo P5P800
Intel Pentium 4 560 (Prescott) @ 3.6 GHz
1 GB DDR-SDRAM 2 x 512 Mb Corsair CMX512-4400C25
Nvidia MSI 5900XT AGP

I assume that the video card is the bottleneck :hmm:

My system is AGP, and I plan to do a major upgrade end of this year for a PCI-e rig.

For the moment nothing is OC'ed, but if I change the graph card, I'll OC as much as possible if needed.

Until then, I would like to enjoy some nice games, specially SH4. So I would like to get an AGP card that allows me to play it as nice as possible. On the other hand I think it has not too much sense to spend too much now in a card to be changed later this year.

What do you recommend? 7600GT, 7800GS, 7800GS GLH? Another?

Thanks a lot!

Gizzmoe
03-24-07, 04:40 AM
Currently the best card for AGP is the ATI X1950 Pro, but you would need a new power supply with at least 25 amps on the +12v line. The 7600GT is a decent card and costs less, it needs a PSU that has 20 ampere on the +12v line.

Darkbluesky
03-24-07, 04:45 AM
Tx for answer. Sorry I forgot to say that I can buy only NVIDIA cards becuase, unhappily, they are the only ones that allow to play PC games in true 3D, i.e. stereoscopic mode (kind of Virtual Reality).

Do you think that a 7600GT will allow to play SH4 maxed, or almost?

Gizzmoe
03-24-07, 05:04 AM
Do you think that a 7600GT will allow to play SH4 maxed, or almost?

Almost. That depends on how much additional GPU power the stereoscopic mode needs.

Darkbluesky
03-24-07, 05:08 AM
Almost. That depends on how much additional GPU power the stereoscopic mode needs.

Well, stereocopic mode can drop fps by a 25-35% according to my experience. But I would be happy if currently I could play SH4 in normal mode (not stereocopic) maxed.

LW_Vector
03-24-07, 05:12 AM
hey guys
i have a major problem installed sh4 click exe/shortcut/dvd autorun get the 'egg timer' for a couple of seconds then nothing.... re-installed patched dx ati drivers nothing....

task manager open click sh4 exe .. shows up in processes for a couple of seconds then disapears.... i don't know what to do, any help would be great ...



system
3.2 intel
2gig ram
x850 ati

Gizzmoe
03-24-07, 05:16 AM
Well, stereocopic mode can drop fps by a 25-35% according to my experience. But I would be happy if currently I could play SH4 in normal mode (not stereocopic) maxed.

It all depends on your financial situation and on when you wanna have the next major system upgrade. You probably need a new PSU anyhow, no matter if you upgrade to the 7600GT or X1950 Pro. The X1950 is much better than the 7600GT, if you have the money get a good PSU and the X1950, then you can play at hi-res with max details, the 7600GT won´t be able to handle max details at hi-res.

Gizzmoe
03-24-07, 05:24 AM
i have a major problem installed sh4 click exe/shortcut/dvd autorun get the 'egg timer' for a couple of seconds then nothing.... re-installed patched dx ati drivers nothing....

Install patch 1.1, perhaps that helps.

http://www.ubi.com/US/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2172

LW_Vector
03-24-07, 05:35 AM
i have a major problem installed sh4 click exe/shortcut/dvd autorun get the 'egg timer' for a couple of seconds then nothing.... re-installed patched dx ati drivers nothing....
Install patch 1.1, perhaps that helps.

http://www.ubi.com/US/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2172

tried that

Kapitan_Phillips
03-24-07, 07:17 AM
I have a tip for you folks :)

Dont install the DirectX 9.0c found on the disc. Its outdated. There is a February 2007 version availiable here (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en)

AVGWarhawk
03-24-07, 08:28 AM
Cool! Got it:up:

DaMaGe007
03-24-07, 08:34 AM
I just installed SH4 no problems with install but when I tried to run the sim I got the following message Error:Can Not Initialize 3D Engine.I than click ok and CTD here are my systems specs
P4 3,2 GHz
2048 Mb RAM DDR2 4200
ATI 1600 with 512 ram on card
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS
I rebooted the computer after I installed the sim also.

JeffG

I had a similar problem after installing my new graphics card, turns out it was a media player error, and by deleting the ubi.avi and into.avi the game is able to run fine. Worth a try...

I havent reinstalled windows yet to see if media player gets repaired.

uniquemind
03-24-07, 08:47 AM
Hi,

I have a slight problem in that every now and then I see a white band across the bottom of the screen quickly flash and then it goes, its rather difficult to explain and its not possible to take a screenshot as it is too rapid and I can't get it in time, so my question is which ATI drivers are best for the X800 Pro? I have a feeling its driver related as I am using old drivers, not through choice but having to for other games to be better, I heard that the 7.2 's are terrible and they are I believe the latest as of now, so if anyone knows what drivers are best I'd appreciate the advice :D

Many thanks

Uniquemind :up:

DaMaGe007
03-24-07, 10:19 AM
I get a flash of graphics across the bottom half of the screen too (at bridge mostly), I think we are talking about the same thing. I use an Nvidia card.

Im not sure if it is still happening, I havent seen it since installing the patch, but I havent been playing much...

Guido
03-24-07, 10:55 AM
hello !

I just wandered if some of the more professional submariners around, or just more seasoned shall we say.................could explain what the eck is going on with my sonar station?

On Sh3, I used to move the dial around to various degrees and pick up contacts on them. In sh4 Its all rather different, I have a tool to ping, ok I understand that will be used to find the range of a target, but how the heck does one find a target at all? I only have the normal edition game, and not much is really mentioned in the manual. The radar apears to work mind, although i havent as yet seen any contacts on it.

Anyone ?:know:

Hollyfeld
03-24-07, 11:47 AM
Game is very fuzzy/blurry. I've tried all different variations of settings and it's still blurry.

System Specs:

P4 2.8
2gigs RAM
ATI Radeon X800 GTO

I have the correct settings that everyone talks about in the ATI control panel regarding AA and such.

I can run Battlefield 2 with really good settings and it runs fine. SH3 looks and plays great as well.

I noticed that when the SH4 is running I'm only using about 45% of my available RAM. Would this have anything to do with it?

Kapitan_Phillips
03-24-07, 11:49 AM
Have you turned Post Processing OFF in the game options? Thats the photo filter that gives it an old movie feel.

Hollyfeld
03-24-07, 11:54 AM
Yes it's off. I noticed a difference when switching it on/off.

For the most part everything is still blurzzy

macky
03-24-07, 12:34 PM
When I start SH4 I get an error box stating:

"Please insert the original disc instead of backup (1000)"

Then it provides a link to securom.

Now before you say it, my copy is legal and not a backup, nocd cracked version. Its brand new and recieved it from amazon this morning.

A second go and the game loads ok.

Not a game busting bug, just an inconvenient one. Anyone else had this? Or could it be my dvd drive playing up

Zus
03-24-07, 12:36 PM
Just got a copy of SH4 and installed it....and, as if it was too beautiful otherwise....IT DOESN'T WORK! :damn:

Instead of starting the game, SH4.exe gives me an error-message "d3dx9_32.dll not found"

DirectX 9.0c is already on my system and even IF I try to install it from SH4.exe it tells me that there is not enough space available, which is complete b*llsh*t because I have around 30 GB free on the target drive.

google for d3dx9_32.dll, once found place it in c:\windows\system directory

Well, the true problem here is that you were unable to install DirectX from the game dvd. It is true you have DirectX9c, but you have an older version of it. The one found in the game is DirectX9c december 2006. You have an older one installed.

Also, you must have space on the system drive for DirectX to install (like, if your windows folder is in C:\Windows, then you must have enough space on drive C). You should try to install DirectX correctly (maybe just adding that dll is not enough) and then the game should work.

GoldenRivet
03-24-07, 12:38 PM
happened to me the first time i loaded the game... i was erked and tried again, worked fine and hasnt done it since.

bobbedybob
03-24-07, 03:31 PM
Could someone please help me. My game loads up fine but then when a mission is loaded the buttons come up at the bottom with the speed dial etc but above that it's just a black screen. I move the mouse around and writing comes up saying helmsman and navigator so i assume that's the command room but I can't see anything.

Help much appreciated.

AMD athlon dual core 5000+
Nvidia Gforce 7950Gx2
1GB RAM
250GB hard drive
and thats all I know.

seawolf34
03-24-07, 04:09 PM
When I start SH4 I get an error box stating:

"Please insert the original disc instead of backup (1000)"

Then it provides a link to securom.

Now before you say it, my copy is legal and not a backup, nocd cracked version. Its brand new and recieved it from amazon this morning.

A second go and the game loads ok.

Not a game busting bug, just an inconvenient one. Anyone else had this? Or could it be my dvd drive playing up

There's nothing wrong with your dvd drive m8, I got the same problem, sometimes takes 3 or 4 attempts to get the game loading :damn: & yes it's the original disc i'm using

uniquemind
03-24-07, 04:51 PM
Yes it's off. I noticed a difference when switching it on/off.

For the most part everything is still blurzzy

I had this after going into my graphics cards control panel and reducing Mipmap detail to best performance, so to get rid of the blurry image, set your Mipmap detail to high quality, fixed it for me

I still however am getting this white band that flashes across the screen when on the bridge, seeing as no-one has replied I guess this is a bug, hopefully not my system which is:

Let me ammend this, its now a black flicker,flash call it what you will

Athlon AMD 3000+ XP 2.2 Gig
Radeon X800 Pro 256MB
2.5 Gig DDR Ram
Socket A Gigabyte Motherboard
Realtek AC97 Onboard Sound

Uniquemind :D

clamps
03-24-07, 09:09 PM
if any one could help me with my sound looping problem would be great

i seem to a get sound looping banging noise (kind of sounds like some ones banging very loudly on the side of my sub :( ) only when i ever come out of tc i have tried both old and new drivers for my Audigy 2 card and turned down hardware acceleration to all possible settings and still happens and new est dx 9 update installed.

the 3d sounds slider in game have tried on all levels as well and the travel sound tick box thing is off.

Hollyfeld
03-24-07, 10:06 PM
Yes it's off. I noticed a difference when switching it on/off.

For the most part everything is still blurzzy

I had this after going into my graphics cards control panel and reducing Mipmap detail to best performance, so to get rid of the blurry image, set your Mipmap detail to high quality, fixed it for me

I still however am getting this white band that flashes across the screen when on the bridge, seeing as no-one has replied I guess this is a bug, hopefully not my system which is:

Athlon AMD 3000+ XP 2.2 Gig
Radeon X800 Pro 256MB
2.5 Gig DDR Ram
Socket A Gigabyte Motherboard
Realtek AC97 Onboard Sound

Uniquemind :D

FIXED!

You deserve an award, a dinner held in your honor and if you're old enough, a bottle of the finest Single Malt Scotch.

I cannot tell you how happy I am.

Thank you

kylania
03-24-07, 11:05 PM
Vista problems here... I'm getting the DX9 file missing error, but well I'm not using DX9 with Vista. Any ideas? Can I just put that file in the system32 folder to trick it?

Seadogs
03-25-07, 04:59 AM
You still need to install the DX9c update. However go to windows update and use that one, it's newer than the one on the disk.

Don't get confused about Vista's DX10 as nothing uses it as of yet. Trust me, I use Vista as well.:smug:

Darkbluesky
03-25-07, 05:10 AM
It all depends on your financial situation and on when you wanna have the next major system upgrade. You probably need a new PSU anyhow, no matter if you upgrade to the 7600GT or X1950 Pro. The X1950 is much better than the 7600GT, if you have the money get a good PSU and the X1950, then you can play at hi-res with max details, the 7600GT won´t be able to handle max details at hi-res.

Ok, after looking more I have more defined choices, I'm between

1-Gainward 7600GT GS 256 MB, mem bandwidth 128 bit, 12 pipelines (1.2 ns mem access time, 575 Mhz core, 1500 Mhz memory, GDDR3) at 180 euros. For spec reference http://www.alternate.eu/html/product/details.html?artno=JAGWNL&showTechData=true#tecData

2-Gainward 7800GS GLH 512 MB, mem bandwidth 256 bit, 20 pipelines (1.4 ns mem access time, 500 Mhz core, 1400 Mhz memory, GDDR3) at 225 euros. I remember that the Gainward 7800GS+ was a 7900GT core with 24 pipelines, but I have not found any info on this about the 7800G GLH. Anybody can enlight this? For spec reference http://www.alternate.eu/html/product/details.html?artno=JBGWA9&showTechData=true#tecData

I would love to find a review of the 7800GS GLH compared with the 7600GT, but I can't find any review on the 7800gs GLH AGP (only one on the 7800GT GLH PCIe, which is useless for me)

On the other hand I found that the 7600GT could be almost fine with a 350W PSU (which is my current one), but the 7800GS GLH could need a 400W one.

I would like to know which one of both you would chose, which is faster, more OCable, and if it is worth the difference on price.

Thank you!

TonyD
03-25-07, 10:18 AM
Greetings -

SH4 freezes after the first main menu when loading any option with the error I have seen others report - error x3539: ps_1_x is not supported in this version of compiler.
Data/Shader/InteriorIllumination/HighlightPS.fx

I have added the patch to the clean install and re-booted etc etc.
I've been running all previous versions of SH

I realise my graphic card is not up to scratch but before I unlock the vaults, what would anyone suggest for upgrade.

Time Computer AMD 3500+ 1.3Gz 1.024GB RAM
8GB free space on C plus more disks with space.
All-in-wonder 9200 series
Radeon 9200 secondary.

What would be the simplest and cheapest ubgrade solution? SH4 only cost £24.99!

Thank you

humesdog
03-25-07, 10:23 AM
Now that you've all been running SH4 for a couple days, can anyone recommend a graphics card for me that'll make this simulation run nice? Here are the specs on my computer.

Running XP on a Dell Optiplex GX520
Pentium 4 3.00GHz
.99 GB RAM

Money is not too important, I want the game to look nice. Also, do I need other upgrades besides the video card? I have no card yet and the system doesn't list a sound card (or maybe I don't know how to look for it).

On a side note, I was running SH3 on my laptop which has only 512MB RAM and an ATI radeon 9700 and I installed SH4 and ran it at the lower settings, and it actually didn't run that bad. I could also upgrade my laptop and give it more RAM.

Thanks for your help. Looking forward to getting back out in the Pacific!

OneTinSoldier
03-25-07, 11:10 AM
Greetings -

SH4 freezes after the first main menu when loading any option with the error I have seen others report - error x3539: ps_1_x is not supported in this version of compiler.
Data/Shader/InteriorIllumination/HighlightPS.fx

I have added the patch to the clean install and re-booted etc etc.
I've been running all previous versions of SH

I realise my graphic card is not up to scratch but before I unlock the vaults, what would anyone suggest for upgrade.

Time Computer AMD 3500+ 1.3Gz 1.024GB RAM
8GB free space on C plus more disks with space.
All-in-wonder 9200 series
Radeon 9200 secondary.

What would be the simplest and cheapest ubgrade solution? SH4 only cost £24.99!

Thank you
Hi TonyD,

I think that error message is the game telling you that 'Pixel Shader 1 Extension' is not supported, which is all your graphics card supports. SHIV needs a graphics card that supports Pixel Shader 2.

Are you sure you CPU is an...

AMD 3500+ ...?

An AMD 3500+ only runs at 1.3GHz? Perhaps you meant AMD 2500+?

If you meant 2500+ then I recommend trying to get an ATI X850 or Nvidia 6800 type of card. Because what you have there is getting pretty darned old, and the PSU(Power Supply Unit) in it is not likely to support the power requirements cards newer than that. Not only that, even if you could get a higher powered card than those, it's likey they wouldn't be doing you any more good than an X850 or 6800 because the CPU would be a serious bottleneck to anything higher then one of those two.

If it's a 2500+ running at 1.3 GHz then you might want to think about opening up the vault IF you are wanting to run SHIV in fairly hi-res with high detail.

Hope that helps

Egan
03-25-07, 12:07 PM
Ok guys, I'm hoping someone can give me some useful advice here.

First up: my current system:

3.8 gig p4
2 gig DDr2 ram
6800 ultra
+ an audigy card.

Although the game looks nice i've had frames drop into single figures at times which is no good. I've got a bit of spare money just now and although I cannot afford a whole new rig I want to get a new graphics card and a shiny new monitor. So here are some questions.

I've seen some 8800s at a good price but is there any point in getting one of these just now? I'm unlikely to upgrade to a new motherboard and duelcore system for a while yet and I don't know whether I would get the best out of it.

One card that has caught my eye is this one:

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=4B26&InMerch=1

Is it good enough to last do me as a stop gap for while until I get around to upgrading everything? I'm not that bothered for the latest shooters so DX10 really isn't that big an issue for me. As long as I can boost the frames on Sh4 and OFF that is good enough for me. would it be enough just now? I've only ever used nividia before but if someone can convince me that ATI are better I'm quite willing to follow their adivce...:D

I'm thrown about monitors too. I'm just using a crappy 17'' crt just now but want something in the 20'' at least. Space is limited so I'm after a flatty instead of a crt. under 8ms etc. What I really want to know is this: I've seen a couple that have a native res of 16 x 12. All fine but if I played something at another, lower, res would there be a noticable problem with blurriness etc?

Basically, would I be just as well off getting one with a lower native res, using that and saving a few quid?

A lot of questions I know but I'm quite out of touch. My machine has done me for two and a half years without the slightest problem. it is only recently it has begun to gasp at games....

Mods if this would be better of in General topics or somewhere please move.

AVGWarhawk
03-25-07, 06:33 PM
Ok guys, I'm hoping someone can give me some useful advice here.

First up: my current system:

3.8 gig p4
2 gig DDr2 ram
6800 ultra
+ an audigy card.

Although the game looks nice i've had frames drop into single figures at times which is no good. I've got a bit of spare money just now and although I cannot afford a whole new rig I want to get a new graphics card and a shiny new monitor. So here are some questions.

I've seen some 8800s at a good price but is there any point in getting one of these just now? I'm unlikely to upgrade to a new motherboard and duelcore system for a while yet and I don't know whether I would get the best out of it.

One card that has caught my eye is this one:

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=4B26&InMerch=1

Is it good enough to last do me as a stop gap for while until I get around to upgrading everything? I'm not that bothered for the latest shooters so DX10 really isn't that big an issue for me. As long as I can boost the frames on Sh4 and OFF that is good enough for me. would it be enough just now? I've only ever used nividia before but if someone can convince me that ATI are better I'm quite willing to follow their adivce...:D

I'm thrown about monitors too. I'm just using a crappy 17'' crt just now but want something in the 20'' at least. Space is limited so I'm after a flatty instead of a crt. under 8ms etc. What I really want to know is this: I've seen a couple that have a native res of 16 x 12. All fine but if I played something at another, lower, res would there be a noticable problem with blurriness etc?

Basically, would I be just as well off getting one with a lower native res, using that and saving a few quid?

A lot of questions I know but I'm quite out of touch. My machine has done me for two and a half years without the slightest problem. it is only recently it has begun to gasp at games....

Mods if this would be better of in General topics or somewhere please move.


Yes, it looks like your card is the bottle neck. Find a site where you can compare you current card and this one. This will tell the story if you are getting more juice than your current card compared to this one. This is what I did. I had a Nvidia 6200 oc and the game was just playable, no more. I compared it to several cards and decided on the Radeon X1300 XGE 512mg card. HUGE difference. I'm very pleased with it.

cpre5
03-25-07, 08:30 PM
I run about 30fps while in game, however I run 2 fps in the office. Anyone else have this issue, cause its hard to click on things with only 2 fps.
I have all my stuff turned to low.

AMD 64 3200 2.g
1g ram
Nvidia 6800GT

Tigrone
03-26-07, 12:35 AM
What is Terrain Objects LOD Size? What impact does it have on frames? There is not an explanation in the manual or game. Neither mentions Terrain Objects Density (I can figure that out) or Terrain Objects LOD Size.

OakGroove
03-26-07, 02:50 PM
^
My first guess was the higher the LOD size, the further out high poly models would be displayed before switching to a lower LOD. However, according to GFX presets, it's actually the other way around !?

[Minimum]
DepthBufferEffects=0
Filters=0
Glare=0
UnderwaterDispMap=0
LightShafts=0
3DShipWakes=0
DetailedWaveRipples=0
UnitNormalMaps=0
ShipCausticsEffects=0
Ship3DDamage=0
CharacterDetail=0
ParticlesDetail=5
TerrainObjectsDensity=2
TerrainObjectsLODSize=10
GammaCorrection=50

[Medium]
DepthBufferEffects=0
Filters=0
Glare=0
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=0
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=1
Ship3DDamage=1
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=8
TerrainObjectsDensity=5
TerrainObjectsLODSize=8
GammaCorrection=50

[Full]
DepthBufferEffects=1
Filters=1
Glare=1
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=1
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=1
Ship3DDamage=2
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=10
TerrainObjectsDensity=8
TerrainObjectsLODSize=5
GammaCorrection=50

Egan
03-26-07, 03:43 PM
Yes, it looks like your card is the bottle neck. Find a site where you can compare you current card and this one. This will tell the story if you are getting more juice than your current card compared to this one. This is what I did. I had a Nvidia 6200 oc and the game was just playable, no more. I compared it to several cards and decided on the Radeon X1300 XGE 512mg card. HUGE difference. I'm very pleased with it.

Well, I looked at a couple of sites and the 7950 GT looks like being the best bang for buck within my price range. I'm curious about the ATi cards, though, and I wonder whether this would be an ideal time to try one out seeing as how I probably would have to plan on keeping it for the next two years.

Cheers for the advice. Now I just have work monitors out....

Tigrone
03-26-07, 03:51 PM
Thank you OakGroove,
But, what is Terrain Objects LOD? What does it do? What does LOD stand for?

^
My first guess was the higher the LOD size, the further out high poly models would be displayed before switching to a lower LOD. However, according to GFX presets, it's actually the other way around !

OakGroove
03-26-07, 04:42 PM
NP 08x15, LOD stands for Level Of Detail, this entry [/URL][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_detail_(programming (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_detail_%28programming%29)) explains it thoroughly. In case of SH4 i guess the terrain LOD slider affects Scenary LOD, i.e. Buildings, trees, rocks, seaweed etc.

Tigrone
03-26-07, 05:01 PM
Thank you OakGrove. I got it.

Javelin
03-26-07, 05:01 PM
Gateway Intel Pentium 4 2.8MHz
Radeon X1300 256 MB DDR2 PCI graphics card Supports shader model 3.0
1 gig mem.

Can I play SH4 with the above.

Iron Budokan
03-26-07, 06:06 PM
Gateway Intel Pentium 4 2.8MHz
Radeon X1300 256 MB DDR2 PCI graphics card Supports shader model 3.0
1 gig mem.

Can I play SH4 with the above.

You should be able to. I have the same specs, same GFX card, except I have 2 G ram. It's still a little jerky at times for me, but at least you should be able to play.

Dustyboats
03-26-07, 06:12 PM
Hi There Gizzmoe,
Putting crew through paces went softly to P/Depth using icon. Surfaced: Then did "Crash Dive" with icon. On depth gauge set 8oft....no problem. Used icon to go P/Depth.......voices cleared the bridge, yelled Dive Dive Dive...they must have bee pretty peeved off with me dragging them along on the bridge at 80ft....any ideas kind sir ? Regards....Dusty

GoldenEagle8
03-26-07, 08:44 PM
most of the time I get around 6-10 FPS, When I turn on the enviornmental effects, I get 2-3 FPS on the Bridge and out side the boat.

I have an AMD 1.8GHz Prossessor
an ATI 200m graphics card
and 1 Gig of RAM.

If I add a second Gig of RAM, will I get up to 6-10 FPS out side my boat with Enviornmental effects on?
Will a second Gig of RAM improve my frame rate outside my boat? Or should I look into overclocking my current prossessor, or a new one all together?

Miika
03-27-07, 03:12 AM
I have been playing the game for a few days now, and I must say I like it a lot. I like the way the periscope and TCD are set up, as well as the new crew management etc.

I would like the radar to be more user-friendly, though, and I hope the bugs will be corrected. Nevertheless, my thanks to the developers for a great game, with the following disclaimer, though;).

What really troubles me is a problem I suppose has something to do with copy protection. Once I insert the DVD, in only works (if at all) after a few (1-15 times) of inserting and re-inserting the DVD to the drive (Samsung SH-S162L lightscribe). Even then, it might take quite a long time until the splash screen appears. I'm writing this after 25min of trying, still the DVD won't work. I have the Collector's edition.

I'v had the same problem with games such as FEAR and Company of Heroes (which both I took back to the retailer). I just like SH4 so much I wouldn't like to do that.

I've had no problems with other games, music CDs or other DVDs. Hence I believe the problem is in the DVD.

My drivers are all up to date, and the game itself (once it works) works fine.

Does anyone have any (legal) solution to this, or at least can anyone suggest a DVD drive that can cope (read) with most of the copy protection? It is pretty frustrating I can't play something I've paid for. Any help from the developers?

It has now been around 35min and still not working..:nope:

Miika

Gizzmoe
03-27-07, 03:17 AM
Some standard advice:
Reboot your PC, then try again.
Make sure the DVD is clean.
Update the firmware of your DVD drive
Buy a cleaning CD to clean the laser lens.

P_Funk
03-27-07, 03:53 AM
Looks like even though Starforce is history, copy protection won't stop harassing the Silent Hunter seies.

Miika
03-27-07, 05:33 AM
Some standard advice:
Reboot your PC, then try again.
Make sure the DVD is clean.
Update the firmware of your DVD drive
Buy a cleaning CD to clean the laser lens.

Tried all the above, to no avail.

As everything else works fine, all I can think of is DVD drive - SH4 mismatch. Appears I have to try buying a new DVD drive. Bummer...

Nevertheless, thanks for the tips:up:.

Miika

MLF
03-27-07, 06:58 AM
Have loaded SH4 Ok. Also patch. Go into menu and select a quick mission. Loads up and there I am in the control room. :smug: Problem:cry: :- FPS flicks constantly between 50 down to 1 ie: 50-1-38-1-49-1 etc. Mouse Pointing to anything is almost impossible - extremely sluggish. Water doesn't render except in wake. Any ideas plz?

MLF

Dustyboats
03-27-07, 09:38 AM
Hi There Gizzmoe,
On one or two occassions there is resort to opening the files in folders, I get a window up when I endeavour to do so that tells me "unknown or corrupted". Do I need to install a programme/software to do use with these types of files? If so can you lead me please......Dusty

unruhly
03-27-07, 11:17 AM
Some standard advice:
Reboot your PC, then try again.
Make sure the DVD is clean.
Update the firmware of your DVD drive
Buy a cleaning CD to clean the laser lens.

Tried all the above, to no avail.

As everything else works fine, all I can think of is DVD drive - SH4 mismatch. Appears I have to try buying a new DVD drive. Bummer...

Nevertheless, thanks for the tips:up:.

Miika

Miika,
Before replacing the drive, you can try cleaning the lens.
Remove the drive and open the top panel. You'll see the lens on a carrier. Dip a q-tip into some alcohol and whip off the excess alcohol by flinging the q-tip through the air. Very gently apply the tip onto the lens and rotate it a couple of times. Do the same thing with the dry end of the q-tip. Using the dry end, swab along the runners for the carrier to remove the dust that collects on the lubricant. Don't over swab it or you'll remove all the grease.
Reassemble and you'll hopefully you'll have no more trouble.

Volum
03-27-07, 01:47 PM
Im wondering about Agent insertion missions. I can do them allright, but i've gotten 3 repeated insert Agent missions in a row, all at the exact same spot:-?

And now im really annoyed cause after the last one i got info about the attack in the Coral Sea, and how submarines are gonna be used to scout ahead, might see some carriers. And i get sent to freaking Maron or whatever the place on the Northers Island is called again! Screw that im going to the Coral sea!

Am i supposed to get so many agent insertions in a row? I'm based at Pearl btw.

Iron Budokan
03-27-07, 01:59 PM
Missions are random. You just hit an "agent insertion" streak. :cry:

Schnee
03-28-07, 12:02 AM
Lots of stupid questions in this post - BUT, here goes.

Systen is a Windows XP on a Sony Pentium 4 3GHZ processor so i should be fast enough.

But I suspect I may need to update my vidoe card drivers - what happens is the game loads ALL the way to the Mission (be it Career/Single Mission) , red bar completes its crawl across the screen, then I get a "Please Wait" box on a blank screen - then system crashes back to the desktop. I have the patch installed by the way.

I presume I have enough RAM - but how can I check on that and what make the video cards are to upgrade the drivers?

Or does anyone think the problem is something different? Its kinda frustrating getting all the way loaded and thenbefore the mission begins (as in SHIII) you get bounced back to your desktop

Gizzmoe
03-28-07, 01:21 AM
Hi There Gizzmoe,
On one or two occassions there is resort to opening the files in folders, I get a window up when I endeavour to do so that tells me "unknown or corrupted". Do I need to install a programme/software to do use with these types of files? If so can you lead me please......Dusty

Which files are you trying to open?

Miika
03-28-07, 02:01 AM
Some standard advice:
Reboot your PC, then try again.
Make sure the DVD is clean.
Update the firmware of your DVD drive
Buy a cleaning CD to clean the laser lens.
Tried all the above, to no avail.

As everything else works fine, all I can think of is DVD drive - SH4 mismatch. Appears I have to try buying a new DVD drive. Bummer...

Nevertheless, thanks for the tips:up:.

Miika
Miika,
Before replacing the drive, you can try cleaning the lens.
Remove the drive and open the top panel. You'll see the lens on a carrier. Dip a q-tip into some alcohol and whip off the excess alcohol by flinging the q-tip through the air. Very gently apply the tip onto the lens and rotate it a couple of times. Do the same thing with the dry end of the q-tip. Using the dry end, swab along the runners for the carrier to remove the dust that collects on the lubricant. Don't over swab it or you'll remove all the grease.
Reassemble and you'll hopefully you'll have no more trouble.

:o

Thanks, I'll try that:up:. Sounds a bit scary though.

Now where did I put my screwdriver...

Miika

MLF
03-28-07, 06:42 AM
Have loaded SH4 Ok. Also patch. Go into menu and select a quick mission. Loads up and there I am in the control room. :smug: Problem:cry: :- FPS flicks constantly between 50 down to 1 ie: 50-1-38-1-49-1 etc. Mouse Pointing to anything is almost impossible - extremely sluggish. Water doesn't render except in wake. Any ideas plz?

MLF

Has anyone any idea what causes the constant 1 second decrease to 1 fps and the sluggishness. I looked at task manager and the only things taking CPU time was SH4 and Task manager. Interesting to note that the CPU time of SH4 goes up and down with the frame rate. I now have the sea rendering correctly, and even on low the graphics look great, but the sim is totally unplayable with this constant up and down of the frame rate. It happens even when the game is paused!

MLF

Iron Budokan
03-28-07, 07:45 AM
Lots of stupid questions in this post - BUT, here goes.

Systen is a Windows XP on a Sony Pentium 4 3GHZ processor so i should be fast enough.

But I suspect I may need to update my vidoe card drivers - what happens is the game loads ALL the way to the Mission (be it Career/Single Mission) , red bar completes its crawl across the screen, then I get a "Please Wait" box on a blank screen - then system crashes back to the desktop. I have the patch installed by the way.

I presume I have enough RAM - but how can I check on that and what make the video cards are to upgrade the drivers?

Or does anyone think the problem is something different? Its kinda frustrating getting all the way loaded and thenbefore the mission begins (as in SHIII) you get bounced back to your desktop

Yes, you're fast enough. How much RAM do you have? Are you getting any error messages before CTD? What kind of GFX card do you have? Try uninstallling and re-installing the game again, with patch.

walsh2509
03-28-07, 10:43 AM
We get points for tonnage sunk, does the sim give you points for damaging ships either with deck gun or torps even though they don't sinking. I know I badly damaged a few large Feighters and Tankers some with 5 hits, I know that would not be enough to sink some of these ships, but they are really badly damaged.

If I knew that I was getting points for damage, then I would feel that my 30 to 40mins travel to be on station and the same again back to PH was not in vain.

or do we get points for hits?

Penelope_Grey
03-28-07, 11:32 AM
I don't know if any others have come accross this, but now I can't even start the game on my PC anymore! It keeps crashing to desktop even before the main menu! God alive, I tried reinstalling, no joy, same thing happens.

It used to work before, now it doesn't. Odd indeed. Am trying to patch it to 1.1, see what happens then, I'm beginning to wish my brother had not wasted his money on this game. Note I say the word "wasted" how can something go from working perfectly to crashing to desktop before the main menu is ready!?

Schnee
03-28-07, 01:42 PM
Ok I'll try re-installing the game with the patch. Not sure about the GFX card. Legacy? I'm pretty sure I have enough RAM, but I'll check that out as well.




Yes, you're fast enough. How much RAM do you have? Are you getting any error messages before CTD? What kind of GFX card do you have? Try uninstallling and re-installing the game again, with patch.[/quote]

fair_weather
03-28-07, 02:38 PM
Alright, got SH4 a couple days ago, first time ever trying a game this indepth (oh the wit! :lol: ) and I love every second of it!

I have everything on max, or close to it, and it looks fantastic, only had a few CTDs but they were fixed.

Only a few things that are making me scratch my head...one is the recognition book...I can only see american ships...how do I switch to looking at other nations? Is there something I'm overseeing or what?

Regardless of that small point, the game is very much fun, most fun I've had in a long long while.

Nice forum you guys have too btw! (First post too!)

Gizzmoe
03-28-07, 02:52 PM
Note I say the word "wasted" how can something go from working perfectly to crashing to desktop before the main menu is ready!?

Delete mydocuments\sh4, then try it again.

Egan
03-28-07, 04:19 PM
I don't seem to be able to see any smoke from ships at all. I've been running with enviromental effects switched off but I don't remember seeing any with it switched on either. Is it a bug or am i missing something here?

johnnydrake
03-28-07, 05:19 PM
Has anyone got a cure or tonic for my game crashing everytime "A" is pressed? Everything else functions great

S.T.A.R.S™
03-28-07, 06:46 PM
Hello Guys,

it's me back again after being so long away from the SH world...

but actually even after being back, I'm kinda disappointed...!

in short... and without going into long talking I would just say that for some reason I feel like I'm a BETA Tester or that it's not just me... so you guys can start raise up your hands.... wow .... you're alot already...

I guess many of us already have the same feeling about being BETA testers...

anways, I'm not here to talk about my feeling, it actually would just be me alone who would care for such thing...

I have a very serious and wierd problem...

I installed the game, I started it normally, I went to the Submarin school and started it..

of course you see the loading bar down there.....

the game would just stops loading at about 45%

I mean that the loading bar would just reach about half the way and it'll stop for ever..

same thing goes for the career or the quick mission, or just anything that means to get me into the game by anyhow... :)

it just always stops while loading the mission... no matter what mission.. as I said above.

anyways, I hit Ctrl+Alt+del, to end task as it takes forever... and there I saw an error message related to Silent hunter..

I have some images to clear the way a little... :

1- the loading bar..

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5426/00000001kn7.th.png (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00000001kn7.png)

* as you can see, it doesnt go past the middle of it.

2- the task manager..

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1466/00000003iu0.th.png (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00000003iu0.png)

* as you can see it doesn't say NOT RESPONDING....

3- the task bar..

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1525/00000002nl6.th.png (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=00000002nl6.png)

* as you can see, the error is related to SH4 as it takes its Icon..

4- The Error Messages..

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/9823/000000000000rq8.th.png (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000000000000rq8.png)

* I dont know what is this error for...

* those are the 4 error messages that would keep poping up when I click on OK.

Finally the game would just exit when I click the END TASK from the Task manager :(

* Some useful Information:

my SH4 is at Version 1.1

and even when I rolled back to the version 1.0 it doesnt help... same thing... same error..!

my graphic card is ATI 9250, and the game worked for another 9250 one already...

of course it's leaking in quality but it's at least running, so I dont think it's a card issue as I installed the card itself on my PC and the same error came up again..

I tried my card on that other PC with the game installed on it and it worked just fine...

so whats wrong in my specifications or configurations or what?

I have a P4 3.2 GHz, 2 GB DDR on dual channel, and alot of storage space.. "5 H.D.Ds"

so it'ld be just very kind if anyone help me finding out whats really going on here..

please accept my best regards and I'm ready to answer any questions that would help out solving the problem I have..


* P.S. : is it OK to post another copy of the same post at the SH4 Patch 1.1 Bug Thread (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107766) ?


thanks in advance.. :)

Iron Budokan
03-28-07, 07:53 PM
It's your video card. The ATI Radeon 9250 is not supported by this game. I should know because it's the card I had. I also had the load halfway thingie, too, and the same error messages. You'll have to get a new card. :cry:

oldgoatsboats
03-28-07, 08:15 PM
How close is the use of the SH4 chart to SH3? I'm a many year veteren of SH1 (always used manual TDC and target plotting and tracking on home made charts from radar read outs) and never played SH2 or 3. So I'm having a little difficulity figuring out how to use an electronic chart.

I figured SH4 was basically a repackaged SH3 so I went looking and found "Wazoo's Plotting and Tracking Tutorial" for SH3.

Is this something I can use to come up to speed in SH4?

S.T.A.R.S™
03-28-07, 09:42 PM
It's your video card. The ATI Radeon 9250 is not supported by this game. I should know because it's the card I had. I also had the load halfway thingie, too, and the same error messages. You'll have to get a new card. :cry:

Hello Iron, well I know about the old card, but I said above that it already worked for another ATI 9250 Card...!


my graphic card is ATI 9250, and the game worked for another 9250 one already...


I'm sure of what I'm saying, the other card is the same brand as mine, and the PC is almost the same Spec.

I switched Cards between the 2 PCs, and the game is still working on the other one but not on mine, it just never gets to pass the loading page...!

no it's not a graphic card issue, the card I have already support smart shading "SMARTSHADING™"

and I tried my card on the other PC and the game ran just fine... so I was wondering whats for God's sake is going on...

please some help here guys... thanks

Gizzmoe
03-29-07, 01:21 AM
It's your video card. The ATI Radeon 9250 is not supported by this game. I should know because it's the card I had. I also had the load halfway thingie, too, and the same error messages. You'll have to get a new card. :cry:
Hello Iron, well I know about the old card, but I said above that it already worked for another ATI 9250 Card...!
Well, the 9250 doesn´t support PS 2.0, so it´s impossible to run SH4 on it. Perhaps the other card is a 9550?!?

S.T.A.R.S™
03-29-07, 02:20 AM
Hi Gizzmoe, thanks for the reply..

well buddy I tried my Card on the other PC "my card is 9250" and the game worked just fine.

but on my PC it doesnt... it keep giving that error..

and here is the card I have:


GV-R925128DE-RH

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2301

:damn: :damn:

Gizzmoe
03-29-07, 02:31 AM
well buddy I tried my Card on the other PC "my card is 9250" and the game worked just fine.:damn:

Dunno what to say, it´s a DX 8.1 card and doesn´t support PS 2.0, that´s a fact, and SH4 needs PS 2.0. It´s a horribly slow card anyway, so just get a new one.

S.T.A.R.S™
03-29-07, 02:46 AM
I also dont know what to say, as I have a Radeon X1800 XT, but I need to have it also at work... :arrgh!: , and I have that 9250 at work on 3 PCs already...

I read the minimum requirments for the game indeed, and I can understand how you say that you dont know what to say about this issue as the fact which points at the impossibility of having this Card to run the game, but it just did for some reason that I dont really know, while on the other PC it just didn't...!

I tried the No-CD, and again to the legit but still the same....

:damn: :damn:

whats going on??!!!!! :hmm:

Gizzmoe
03-29-07, 02:54 AM
whats going on??!!!!! :hmm:

Why is that so important? SH4 is even literally unplayable on vastly superior cards like the ATI 9600, so even if the 9250 would support PS 2.0 you couldn´t actually play SH4.

Tigrone
03-29-07, 12:40 PM
System:
1.83 Ghz Intel Centrino Core Duo T2400 667 MHz
2 Gig Ram
Nvidia GO 7600, 256 Mb
17 inch flat panel at 1280x800

I would like to ask, which options are the biggest resource hogs, and what is the priority or order that might be best to start backing off the sliders or unchecking some options? At the same option's settings, I've seen swings from 14fps to 160fps depending on the screen. My system usually runs the game at a steady 30fps in the exterior environment. My low so far is 14fps, but I've not seen any major fleet displays yet. I would like to find a settings model that will keep my rig from falling below 24fps.

Could someone please suggest, which things might be the biggest hitters on fps and the best order of shutting them off. I found that Environmental Effects is a major hog. Do Light Shafts or Full Scene Glare cause significant fps hits? What about Particle Density? Will removing the big weed & rock seafloor graphic improve fps significantly?

I would like to keep the highest quality on things closest to me (my boat & crew), then target ships, then my water world, then shore objects. Any guidence?

Dustyboats
03-29-07, 01:36 PM
Dear Gizzmoe, thanks for coming back. The file I refer to is white in clour: Right-hand edge partially turned down and six pretty colours inside another square with blue edging.....There... I bet youve never had such a technical explanation in your life !. Thanks again .....Dusty

Seapup
03-29-07, 02:01 PM
Some standard advice:
Reboot your PC, then try again.
Make sure the DVD is clean.
Update the firmware of your DVD drive
Buy a cleaning CD to clean the laser lens.

Tried all the above, to no avail.

As everything else works fine, all I can think of is DVD drive - SH4 mismatch. Appears I have to try buying a new DVD drive. Bummer...

Nevertheless, thanks for the tips:up:.

Miika


I played the game for a few hours without any problems. It was beautiful! My system seemed to handle it maxed out ... Vista, Nvidia Geforce 7900 GS card, etc. System is one month old, including DVD drive. The update was installed. Display is 1920 X 1200 later set at 1680 X 1050. No problems. Went through Gunnery School. The next day nothing. Reloaded everything four times ... clean installs, removed My Documents SH4 data file as suggested earlier .... nothing! The disk just spins for several minutes. A couple of times I got message, "cannot authenticate disk within time limit". This really sucks. I'm ready to send the program back to Amazon with an email on their website warning others about this product. Reminds me of my experiences with SH3. !@#$%^!!!! Enough said. Except to thank everyone on this site for their help and perseverence.

-Pv-
03-29-07, 02:17 PM
fair_weather (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=230600):

"...Only a few things that are making me scratch my head...one is the recognition book...I can only see american ships...how do I switch to looking at other nations? Is there something I'm overseeing or what?..."

Click on the grey area around the menu box and you will get the nationality and other sort menus.

Schnee:

You can right-click on My Computer and select properties to see how much User RAM you have.

If you have fast boot (or something similar) turned off in your bios, your computer will report how much video memory you have during bootup "VRAM"

You can right-click MY COMUTER, select MANAGE and DEVICE MANAGER to see what kind of video you have. If you look at the back of your computer and see where your monitor is plugged in, if the connector is very near all the other connectors with sound USB, mouse, keyboard, etc all closely packed together at the top you may be using onboard video. None of those have the power this game needs.
Video "cards" are usually located further down in the "slots" section where slot covers have to be removed to install them.

In your ACCESSORIES portion of the ALL PROGRAMS there is a System Info tool that provides a comprehensive text listing of all your components RAM and VRAM.

"Has anyone got a cure or tonic for my game crashing everytime "A" is pressed? Everything else functions great"


There is no user solution except to remove the A key from your command list or don't use it. See the mods section for help with that.

STARS:
You insist the card should work because it kinda works on onother box even though it's not supported by the devs (there is a reason they exclude certain models- maybe they kinda work but are not 100% stable in all cases.) Just try another supported card to see what happens.
Also...
" I have a P4 3.2 GHz, 2 GB DDR on dual channel, and alot of storage space.. "5 H.D.Ds""
Does this mean you have one or two drives partitioned into small spaces? Is your C partition large enough? By default that's where your virtual memory is written and SH4 uses an extraordinary amount of Virtual Memory. What is the free space on C?

For those running the Download version, I noticed every time the game starts and closes it tries to save browser cookies and connect to ubi servers. This may be part of the copy protection or to set up the program for multiplayer. Not sure. Make sure you have browser cookies enabled for ubi addresses and that your firewall is not blocking the game.

Generous RAM and free disk space guys. Gotta have it for this game.
Hard drives that are aging, might be on the edge of going out might fail to have the performance necesssary for the virtual memory to work well, thus the game may crash because it cannot read/write enough data space quick enough. Sector errors in the pagefile space might be a problem. The less user RAM you have, the more disk writes you will have (to a point- but that's another book.)

-Pv-

RaisinCain
03-29-07, 03:57 PM
More than once I have hit the "A" button on my keyboard to maintain my current depth and have found that the game suddenly crashes. Anyone else have this issue?

Javelin
03-29-07, 05:45 PM
gateway P4 2.8 Radeon X1300 256mb DDR 1 gig

Installed sh4 , patch and rebooted.
game loads fine, I set the settings to low, start a quick mission and after playing for a few minutes blue screen and CTD. Reboot, this time load the artillery training mission and behold the same results. Any ideas

Valiant
03-29-07, 06:36 PM
Installed, patched and played four times in four days. 1 to 3 hr into game it crashes. I did notice it was after hitting the "A" key. Tech support informs me the game is not supported on laptops. Game test pased all test above recomended. I have noted the NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 display adapter is not supported. Uninstalled and re-installed III.

unruhly
03-29-07, 06:58 PM
Javellin,
How old is your system? First thing I would suspect is overheated CPU from the symptoms you are describing. When your processor starts getting exercised from the game it builds up heat until "crash". The heat can dissipate real quick so it looks to be running fine when you reboot.

Find a source of compressed air and let loose on it. Just canned air won't cut it.

Javelin
03-29-07, 08:37 PM
Javellin,
How old is your system? First thing I would suspect is overheated CPU from the symptoms you are describing. When your processor starts getting exercised from the game it builds up heat until "crash". The heat can dissipate real quick so it looks to be running fine when you reboot.

Find a source of compressed air and let loose on it. Just canned air won't cut it.

Funny, but the only problems i have is with UBI SH3 and SH4.

Javelin
03-30-07, 06:14 AM
Last night installed the latest version of Direct X 9 from Microsoft. This seemed to fix the CTD for the moment. Ran SH4 for 1/2 hour with no problems. Hope this is the fix.

johnnydrake
03-30-07, 11:08 AM
Has anyone got any advice for a certain Liutenent Commander Morton of the USS Stingray who has still yet to receive RADIO WASHINGTON. Is there a News Broadcast? All I get is the background musical score ad nauseum which I turn off after about one hour of repitition. 3 tankers sunk off Rabaul in one day has quelled the potential mutiny. However the crew still misses news from home. Also,their gramaphone just plays the same musical score. In effect, I am led to believe that the gramaphone is really just the background shell music? Otherwise, everything is working grand on my monster rig.

fair_weather
03-30-07, 03:34 PM
Got the recognition book working! didn't see the arrows on the cover of it to switch to different nations...silly me..


Another thing, I'm running on two monitors for every game I own (some manually setting it to widescreen) is there anyway for me to change the aspect ratio or the resolution from anything other than 1024x768, cause I think I can handle 2048x768 (1024 on both monitors essentially)

I tried going through the config files, found one for resolution, set it to custom, saved and ran SH4, but it reverted back to 1024...the intro movies run in the dual screen mode...just wondering if anyone has figured out how to do it...I'll fiddle with the config files and try to come up with a solution. If I do I'll post it.

Capt Wilhelm Von Dorchmar
03-30-07, 08:00 PM
Anyone else having a problem playing the bonus CD that came with SH4?

I have tried exploring the cd, and all I get is a bunch of strange files in a folder called Video_TS, The audio folder is emty.

Any Ideas?:damn:

fair_weather
03-31-07, 12:37 AM
Sounds like a DVD.

Try playing the files with a DVD movie player on your PC.

-Pv-
03-31-07, 01:34 AM
The 3D portion of the game is fixed at 1024x768. Nothing anyone can do about it right now.

Yes, the A key crashes the game for everyone. This is a well known issue by now.
-Pv-

Capt. D
03-31-07, 09:48 AM
Sounds like a DVD.

Try playing the files with a DVD movie player on your PC.

Play it on your regular movie DVD player hooked up on your TV. Works fine.

Happy Hunting :ping:

fair_weather
03-31-07, 04:48 PM
The 3D portion of the game is fixed at 1024x768. Nothing anyone can do about it right now.

Not really. You can force the game to play in whatever resolution you want. However in dual monitor playing, you can't get past the menu, seeing as how the resolution crops out the begin, back and apply changes buttons on the various submenus. Still looking for a work around on it...

Darkbluesky
04-01-07, 02:25 AM
Need advice before investment. Do you think this rig could play SH4 maxed without problems?

Pentium 4 3.6 GHz Prescott
1 Gb DDR Corsair PC4400
7950GT 512Mb AGP

I'm going to buy the grafic card listed, cheaper than wait for a 8600GT PCIe + PCIe (mobo), and in addition all PCIe mobo that support DDR are VIA chipsets, which I don't like. I plan upgrade to PCIe end this year.

Do you think it is enough? Is worth 512 or 256 Mb is enough?

Tx

Paukenschlag
04-01-07, 11:48 AM
Are the Graphics problems due to be fixed with the next patch? The strangest thing is that at times it seems better. A few adjustments of the gamma, but then it loses it when you continue a campaign. It messed up my desktop on one occaison and I had to reset everything including my LCD monitor.

But on the positive side, when I could get it right, the graphics looked great.

I have an ATI RaedonX 1600XT graphics card and a FLATRON L1960TQ monitor.

Do the Nvidia cards also have the Graphics problems?

dlpayer
04-01-07, 01:06 PM
I have the same video card and the same thing happened to me. My frame rates were up in the 40's so I started tweaking the sliders up a little. Now I'm down to 10 fps and nothing I do can increase them.

Tigrone
04-01-07, 02:30 PM
Need advice before investment. Do you think this rig could play SH4 maxed without problems?

Pentium 4 3.6 GHz Prescott
1 Gb DDR Corsair PC4400
7950GT 512Mb AGP

I'm going to buy the grafic card listed, cheaper than wait for a 8600GT PCIe + PCIe (mobo), and in addition all PCIe mobo that support DDR are VIA chipsets, which I don't like. I plan upgrade to PCIe end this year. Do you think it is enough? Is worth 512 or 256 Mb is enough?Tx

You will have not problems with that at maxed graphics. I'd suggest going for 2 Gb of RAM, though. RAM is inexpensive, and it makes a big difference. You could get away with a 256 Mb card for SH4, but for the cost difference do get the 512. You'll have a rig that will last a long time without needing an upgrade.

DirtyHarry3033
04-02-07, 06:59 PM
Title says it all, when I click on the Radio or Gramophone icons, I don't get the interface to listen. When I originally installed SH4 (installed the DVD, rebooted, installed the patch before starting game for 1st time) they both worked. Now they are MIA.

I've done very little in way of mods, all I've done is:

1) jimimadrid's SH4 Toolbar "Lamp" mod (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/../subsim_files/sh4_mods/greenlamp.rar)
2) IMPERIAL 360 DEGREE BEARING PLOTTER (http://files.filefront.com/360_Bearing_Plotter_IMPERWrar/;7026220;/fileinfo.html)
3) A few tweaks to the Commands.cfg using SetKeys 1.11 to assign keys to some commands for Shoot! Voice Recognition

I can't picture any of those being responsible, but I've removed all of 'em anyway and there's no change, interfaces still MIA.

I also thought maybe it was because I had "Music" off when I started my career, but I started another with "Music" on and also tried a couple of individual missions and still no radio or gramophone.

Has anybody else experienced this? Anybody know how to fix? Any help would be much appreciated, with the radio and music mods coming out I really want 'em back :damn:

If it comes down to a reinstall to fix this, is it possible to save and restore my current career to the new install?

TIA!

DH

DirtyHarry3033
04-02-07, 07:16 PM
Need advice before investment. Do you think this rig could play SH4 maxed without problems?

Pentium 4 3.6 GHz Prescott
1 Gb DDR Corsair PC4400
7950GT 512Mb AGP

I'm going to buy the grafic card listed, cheaper than wait for a 8600GT PCIe + PCIe (mobo), and in addition all PCIe mobo that support DDR are VIA chipsets, which I don't like. I plan upgrade to PCIe end this year.

Do you think it is enough? Is worth 512 or 256 Mb is enough?

Tx
Regarding Tigrone's comments I'd definately agree with going for 2gb ram. I'm running Athlon FX-60 @ 2.81, 2gb Corsair PC4000, 2x 7900GTX. Runs fine for the most part on my system (except for the bugs, er I mean "features") but according to MemStatus 2.50 the peak system memory usage is 1975 MB or 96%. Peak video memory usage is 259 MB or 52%. That's after ending all unnecesary stuff with EndItAll. The game appears to eat system memory for breakfast, not even FSX chews it up that bad!

clayp
04-03-07, 07:34 AM
Strange problem with SH4..Game seems to run ok,a little slow maybe but when I leave the game and go to the desktop it looks washed out and I have to reboot to get it normal..Any ideas?
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HEMISENT
04-03-07, 08:24 AM
I'm still stuck with a disc that will not be recognized. After a few tries I got the dvd to load and was able to install the game, after defragging and rebooting the game came up ready to play. I then installed the patch. That was the first and only time my computer was able to recognize the dvd.

Ever since I cannot get the dvd drive to recognize my disc. Auto run is enabled, every other cd/dvd I have works just fine. I followed the dumb instructions on the securom site but that doesn't help. I'm now off to pick up a disc that cleans the lens hoping its just dirty(never been cleaned-2 years old) Since it's already worked once I know it's capable. I've also heard of adjusting the lens(dont know how) and optimizing the dvd drive(no clue what that means)

I know that this has happened to others and I've read through this entire topic a couple times. I do not want to try the no cd download as I hear there are problems. Anyone have any fresh ideas short of calling UBI tech support which we all know will blame it on my system and not on their horse sh/t security application.

Ayari
04-03-07, 11:44 AM
I have no idea, but no the game is installing. It was like my computer took a vacation for 45 minutes. Probably knew that it was going to get tested with SH 4 for many days to come. Thank you. All fixed, I think.

i am glad you got it working.

the story below is for those rare times when you just cannot find the problem when your cd is not reading and your computer says "please insert disk" when you know damm well there is a cd in there:huh:

......

this used to happen to me all the time, i would just buy another cd-rom since they are a dime a dozen now-a-days.

untill my boys' playstation stop reading any disks one day and they both started searching for a fix. they found out that there is an adjustment inside the cd reader that raises and/or lowers the laser doohickey:hmm: the kids took the most scratched up game cd they could find and kept adjusting it till it read it. from then on, that playstaion reads everything short of a all the way through cracked disk :yep:

i had them go at my two old cd drives that could not read the broad side of a barn. sure enough both work fine now...


I have/had the exact same problem. My dvd-rom drive read/s every other game but this one ( it even read the bonus dvd-movie). I updated my firmware, adjust the eye a little, and even cleaned it ( as advised in this thread), and nothing.:damn: I have tried for 2 whole days to get it to just read the disk, hoping it will install but to no avail.

I have since ordered a new one, and am hoping for the best. I just hope I can at the very least get it installed cause I am dying to play this game:arrgh!:

Tetsuo Shima
04-03-07, 12:19 PM
Strange problem with SH4..Game seems to run ok,a little slow maybe but when I leave the game and go to the desktop it looks washed out and I have to reboot to get it normal..Any ideas?
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Sounds to me like the gamma reset is shot. Try looking in the SH4 folder for a gamma reset 'program'; if you have any Halflife games installed, you'll be able to find a gamma reset utility in their relevant directories which should also work (sorry, I can't remember what the utility is called anymore :()

I hope that helps a bit, maybe someone with more experience than I can offer you a bit more assistance. Apparently, there's a lot that can be done by fiddling around with config files and the like ...

Happy hunting and all that jazz.

EDIT: Sorry, sorry. I think it might be only the Natural Selection mod for halflife that has the gamma reset utility :( damn! You could always try just loading up any other game on your PC and exit and it should reset the gamma automatically, I think.

tener
04-03-07, 01:16 PM
anyone had there pc crash after pressin the "log" button??
does it on mine after playin for more then 30 mins :cry:

Seapup
04-03-07, 02:02 PM
I have no idea, but no the game is installing. It was like my computer took a vacation for 45 minutes. Probably knew that it was going to get tested with SH 4 for many days to come. Thank you. All fixed, I think.

i am glad you got it working.

the story below is for those rare times when you just cannot find the problem when your cd is not reading and your computer says "please insert disk" when you know damm well there is a cd in there:huh:

......

this used to happen to me all the time, i would just buy another cd-rom since they are a dime a dozen now-a-days.

untill my boys' playstation stop reading any disks one day and they both started searching for a fix. they found out that there is an adjustment inside the cd reader that raises and/or lowers the laser doohickey:hmm: the kids took the most scratched up game cd they could find and kept adjusting it till it read it. from then on, that playstaion reads everything short of a all the way through cracked disk :yep:

i had them go at my two old cd drives that could not read the broad side of a barn. sure enough both work fine now...


I have/had the exact same problem. My dvd-rom drive read/s every other game but this one ( it even read the bonus dvd-movie). I updated my firmware, adjust the eye a little, and even cleaned it ( as advised in this thread), and nothing.:damn: I have tried for 2 whole days to get it to just read the disk, hoping it will install but to no avail.

I have since ordered a new one, and am hoping for the best. I just hope I can at the very least get it installed cause I am dying to play this game:arrgh!:
You can check my earlier posts on this problem .... it's been dogging me since I received the program. It works once and then I can't get the program to load again. Brand new system, Vista, Nvidia Geforce 7900GS, etc. Reloaded program and then after closing it fails to work again. Just a spinning disk. got it to work twice in 3 days! Finally I added a three year old external DVD drive and it works every time! Am afraid to see if it will work on the drive that came with my new system until I play the game for a while. Knock on wood. I love this game ... beautiful graphics and exciting simulation. Haven't played enough to experience other bugs mentioned elsewhere. One last thought ... the only other variable I haven't tracked yet was that I think the program failed to load after I changed the computer's display from 1920 X 1200 to a lower setting. I had loaded the game @ 1920 X 1200 and then changed the setting to a lower lever (but not within the game!) and after I closed the game wouldn't play again. I did this after the two times it worked with the same result thinking it would improve the game's graphics. It has worked every time for two days on the external DVD with the settings it was installed under. Good luck.

mrbassbone
04-03-07, 03:08 PM
This is probably the wrong forum but here goes. I started a career but I cannot get underway from port in Pearl Harbor. The manual does not reflect on how to unmoor and get going. In the quick missions mode and single patrol mode you start at sea...so how do you start?

Thanks

Ayari
04-03-07, 03:12 PM
I have no idea, but no the game is installing. It was like my computer took a vacation for 45 minutes. Probably knew that it was going to get tested with SH 4 for many days to come. Thank you. All fixed, I think.

i am glad you got it working.

the story below is for those rare times when you just cannot find the problem when your cd is not reading and your computer says "please insert disk" when you know damm well there is a cd in there:huh:

......

this used to happen to me all the time, i would just buy another cd-rom since they are a dime a dozen now-a-days.

untill my boys' playstation stop reading any disks one day and they both started searching for a fix. they found out that there is an adjustment inside the cd reader that raises and/or lowers the laser doohickey:hmm: the kids took the most scratched up game cd they could find and kept adjusting it till it read it. from then on, that playstaion reads everything short of a all the way through cracked disk :yep:

i had them go at my two old cd drives that could not read the broad side of a barn. sure enough both work fine now...


I have/had the exact same problem. My dvd-rom drive read/s every other game but this one ( it even read the bonus dvd-movie). I updated my firmware, adjust the eye a little, and even cleaned it ( as advised in this thread), and nothing.:damn: I have tried for 2 whole days to get it to just read the disk, hoping it will install but to no avail.

I have since ordered a new one, and am hoping for the best. I just hope I can at the very least get it installed cause I am dying to play this game:arrgh!:
You can check my earlier posts on this problem .... it's been dogging me since I received the program. It works once and then I can't get the program to load again. Brand new system, Vista, Nvidia Geforce 7900GS, etc. Reloaded program and then after closing it fails to work again. Just a spinning disk. got it to work twice in 3 days! Finally I added a three year old external DVD drive and it works every time! Am afraid to see if it will work on the drive that came with my new system until I play the game for a while. Knock on wood. I love this game ... beautiful graphics and exciting simulation. Haven't played enough to experience other bugs mentioned elsewhere. One last thought ... the only other variable I haven't tracked yet was that I think the program failed to load after I changed the computer's display from 1920 X 1200 to a lower setting. I had loaded the game @ 1920 X 1200 and then changed the setting to a lower lever (but not within the game!) and after I closed the game wouldn't play again. I did this after the two times it worked with the same result thinking it would improve the game's graphics. It has worked every time for two days on the external DVD with the settings it was installed under. Good luck.

Thanks for the well wishes. My new DVD-ROM should be here in a few days: I will be stoked if it just installs, as I am really wanting to play this bugs galore or not. It was time to upgrade anyways I guess: not that mine did not work or anything (except for SH4), just getting a bit old and the new one will at least match comp. case. Although you said you put a 3 year old external drive in and it worked. Weird.:dead:

A buddy of mine is getting the game soon also, hopefully he does not run into trubs. If he does I will direct him to this site cause it blows UBI's forums outta the water ( pun intended)

Edit: i will post the good or bad news when it arrives < crosses fingers>

Tetsuo Shima
04-03-07, 03:50 PM
Strange problem with SH4..Game seems to run ok,a little slow maybe but when I leave the game and go to the desktop it looks washed out and I have to reboot to get it normal..Any ideas?
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It's me again, I've got a new idea this time. Go into your PC's control panel and see if you have something called 'Adobe Gamma'. You might be able to fiddle around with some settings in there to make the gamma automatically reset when you exit the game (as it should by default). You could also try going to the MS Config settings (type 'msconfig' in the Run box, accessible via the Start menu) and make sure that the adobe gamma thingbob is enabled on startup.

Well, theres a couple ideas to get you started.

clayp
04-03-07, 03:53 PM
Strange problem with SH4..Game seems to run ok,a little slow maybe but when I leave the game and go to the desktop it looks washed out and I have to reboot to get it normal..Any ideas?
__________________

It's me again, I've got a new idea this time. Go into your PC's control panel and see if you have something called 'Adobe Gamma'. You might be able to fiddle around with some settings in there to make the gamma automatically reset when you exit the game (as it should by default). You could also try going to the MS Config settings (type 'msconfig' in the Run box, accessible via the Start menu) and make sure that the adobe gamma thingbob is enabled on startup.

Well, theres a couple ideas to get you started.

Thank you....:D

Seapup
04-03-07, 06:58 PM
I have no idea, but no the game is installing. It was like my computer took a vacation for 45 minutes. Probably knew that it was going to get tested with SH 4 for many days to come. Thank you. All fixed, I think.

i am glad you got it working.

the story below is for those rare times when you just cannot find the problem when your cd is not reading and your computer says "please insert disk" when you know damm well there is a cd in there:huh:

......

this used to happen to me all the time, i would just buy another cd-rom since they are a dime a dozen now-a-days.

untill my boys' playstation stop reading any disks one day and they both started searching for a fix. they found out that there is an adjustment inside the cd reader that raises and/or lowers the laser doohickey:hmm: the kids took the most scratched up game cd they could find and kept adjusting it till it read it. from then on, that playstaion reads everything short of a all the way through cracked disk :yep:

i had them go at my two old cd drives that could not read the broad side of a barn. sure enough both work fine now...


I have/had the exact same problem. My dvd-rom drive read/s every other game but this one ( it even read the bonus dvd-movie). I updated my firmware, adjust the eye a little, and even cleaned it ( as advised in this thread), and nothing.:damn: I have tried for 2 whole days to get it to just read the disk, hoping it will install but to no avail.

I have since ordered a new one, and am hoping for the best. I just hope I can at the very least get it installed cause I am dying to play this game:arrgh!:
You can check my earlier posts on this problem .... it's been dogging me since I received the program. It works once and then I can't get the program to load again. Brand new system, Vista, Nvidia Geforce 7900GS, etc. Reloaded program and then after closing it fails to work again. Just a spinning disk. got it to work twice in 3 days! Finally I added a three year old external DVD drive and it works every time! Am afraid to see if it will work on the drive that came with my new system until I play the game for a while. Knock on wood. I love this game ... beautiful graphics and exciting simulation. Haven't played enough to experience other bugs mentioned elsewhere. One last thought ... the only other variable I haven't tracked yet was that I think the program failed to load after I changed the computer's display from 1920 X 1200 to a lower setting. I had loaded the game @ 1920 X 1200 and then changed the setting to a lower lever (but not within the game!) and after I closed the game wouldn't play again. I did this after the two times it worked with the same result thinking it would improve the game's graphics. It has worked every time for two days on the external DVD with the settings it was installed under. Good luck.

Thanks for the well wishes. My new DVD-ROM should be here in a few days: I will be stoked if it just installs, as I am really wanting to play this bugs galore or not. It was time to upgrade anyways I guess: not that mine did not work or anything (except for SH4), just getting a bit old and the new one will at least match comp. case. Although you said you put a 3 year old external drive in and it worked. Weird.:dead:

A buddy of mine is getting the game soon also, hopefully he does not run into trubs. If he does I will direct him to this site cause it blows UBI's forums outta the water ( pun intended)

Edit: i will post the good or bad news when it arrives < crosses fingers>
Here's what I found out on my system. The game now works in either my new or my old drive. No problems. I installed the game at my computer's display setting of 1920 X 1200. I found out that if I later change the computer setting to something else it will not display at all. The disk spins until it stops. If you hit Control Alt Delete and look at your task manager you will see that the game is listed under processes. It's there but not displaying. If you change the settings on your computer back to the what the game was installed under it will not display until you go back to Control Alt Delete and end the "SH4.exe" file that is still running. After that it will still run. I don't know if this is a bug but apparently you can't change the display on the computer (not the setting in the game) or it won't work ... at least not on my machine. Anyway, it's running great every time now on either DVD drive.

Tetsuo Shima
04-04-07, 07:14 AM
I've made a couple posts already, but I'd just like to take this opportunity to say hello! I haven't played a sub sim since Silent Service on my NES (still have the original cart and a working NES console - sometimes flick it on for a quick blast :D) and things have really come along since then!

But anyway, the reason I'm posting is that I am experiencing a graphical glitch (sort of). Basically, in about 75% of the patrols I've started, I see a dull rectangle floating on the surface of the sea. I've noticed that the rectangle usually appears where a ship is supposed to be; for example, sometimes the dull rectangle appears where a sampan is supposed to appear, and sometimes it appears floating over ships that I've sunk.

Now, on the whole it doesnt bother me - it doesn't stand out much, and doesn't crash my game or anything. The only annoying thing it does is that when I zoom in and look at it, my game goes really slow and laggy, almost as if the PC is trying to load the ship's model, but it can't find it on the HDD or RAM or whatever so it places a rectangle there instead.

My system specs are:

Athlon X2 4800+
2Gb OCZ Platinum EL DDR RAM
Sapphire Radeon X1950XT 256mb
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS

One thing I'd mention is that I've had a couple of RAM problems recently, which might be an influence somewhere. Also, I have all the latest catalyst drivers, soundcard drivers etc. and I defragged my harddrive and all that.

Any help would be appreciated!

Dustyboats
04-04-07, 07:49 AM
Dear Gizzmoe....old chum...oppo..friend! Being a "greeny" at computing, is it possible that you or some other of our "subsimmers" could teach me how to use the "note pad". Or perhaps there is a blurb I could be pointed to? I ask as it has been sent to me to open things with "note pad"....I do not know how. P.S. Thank you for all your time in keeping us up to date with mods etc. Though you are miles away, it really is appreciated.....Dusty.

Iron Budokan
04-04-07, 08:34 AM
I've made a couple posts already, but I'd just like to take this opportunity to say hello! I haven't played a sub sim since Silent Service on my NES (still have the original cart and a working NES console - sometimes flick it on for a quick blast :D) and things have really come along since then!

But anyway, the reason I'm posting is that I am experiencing a graphical glitch (sort of). Basically, in about 75% of the patrols I've started, I see a dull rectangle floating on the surface of the sea. I've noticed that the rectangle usually appears where a ship is supposed to be; for example, sometimes the dull rectangle appears where a sampan is supposed to appear, and sometimes it appears floating over ships that I've sunk.

Now, on the whole it doesnt bother me - it doesn't stand out much, and doesn't crash my game or anything. The only annoying thing it does is that when I zoom in and look at it, my game goes really slow and laggy, almost as if the PC is trying to load the ship's model, but it can't find it on the HDD or RAM or whatever so it places a rectangle there instead.

My system specs are:

Athlon X2 4800+
2Gb OCZ Platinum EL DDR RAM
Sapphire Radeon X1950XT 256mb
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS

One thing I'd mention is that I've had a couple of RAM problems recently, which might be an influence somewhere. Also, I have all the latest catalyst drivers, soundcard drivers etc. and I defragged my harddrive and all that.

Any help would be appreciated!

Yes, this is a well known bug collectively known around here as the "Monolith". Hopefully it will be fixed with the next patch.

Gizzmoe
04-04-07, 10:16 AM
Dear Gizzmoe....old chum...oppo..friend! Being a "greeny" at computing, is it possible that you or some other of our "subsimmers" could teach me how to use the "note pad". Or perhaps there is a blurb I could be pointed to? I ask as it has been sent to me to open things with "note pad"....I do not know how.

Go to Start/Programs/Accessories/Notepad or Start/Run, then type notepad and click Ok. Then File/Open and select the file you wanna open.

P.S. Thank you for all your time in keeping us up to date with mods etc. Though you are miles away, it really is appreciated.....Dusty.
Thanks! :up:

Tetsuo Shima
04-04-07, 10:53 AM
Yes, this is a well known bug collectively known around here as the "Monolith". Hopefully it will be fixed with the next patch.

Ah, thanks buddy.

longdog499
04-04-07, 02:10 PM
Gentlemen. I would be grateful for any advice concerning installing a newer Sound Driver.Running the DirectX Diagnostic Tool, I find my Device name is Realtek HD Audio,product ID 100,type WDM.
The driver is listed as RtkHDAud.sys version5.10.0000.5202(English) and is dated 19/12/2005.
I have been on the Realtek Semiconductor Corp website but I haven't found anything I would be confident in installing.

Thanks in advance.
LD499

virtualpender
04-04-07, 10:13 PM
Help! Can anyone tell me how to resolve a "CRC error" when trying to install the game? My system exceeds the minimum requirements and I've tried two different discs in two different drives. I've searched the Ubi site and this forum and didn't see anyone else with this exact problem. Thanks in advance for any replies!

OS3 Slickvic
04-05-07, 05:55 AM
Help! Can anyone tell me how to resolve a "CRC error" when trying to install the game? My system exceeds the minimum requirements and I've tried two different discs in two different drives. I've searched the Ubi site and this forum and didn't see anyone else with this exact problem. Thanks in advance for any replies!

You bought 2 copies of the game and they neither one works? :-?

virtualpender
04-05-07, 08:19 AM
I bought one copy and tried to install on two different machines. I thought perhaps the DVD was corrupt and exchanged it for another. Nothing shady...

unruhly
04-05-07, 09:32 AM
I bought one copy and tried to install on two different machines. I thought perhaps the DVD was corrupt and exchanged it for another. Nothing shady...

Were these machines identical? Please provide brand and major specs of the two systems. Without that, there's nothing to go on.

Darkbluesky
04-05-07, 05:03 PM
Hello,

Sorry to bother you still with this subject, after thinking about and looking to more options, I am between these now. Maybe this is not the best topic to ask this but I have not found any other on subsim community, and I would like your advice as SH3/SH4 players, if possible. I hope you can help me:


My current rig:Asus mobo P5P800 AGP.
CPU Intel Prescott Pentium 4 3.6 GHZ (not OC'ed)
1 GB RAM (2 x 512 MB Corsair CMX512PC4400-C25)
MSI GeForce 5900XT AGP


A.- 1 x XFX 7950GT AGP 512 Mb DDR3 269 euros and to add another 2 x 512 Mb Corsair PC4400-DDR550 just like the ones I have, so I will have 4 x 512 Mb = 2 Gb for 80 euros and stay with same mobo and CPU. TOTAL = 350 euros

B.- 1 x Xpertvision/Palit 8800GTS PCIe 320 Mb DDR3 for 249-269 euros and a new mobo ASROCK 4CoreDual-VSTA PCIe for 60 euros and stay with 1 Gb DDR550 RAM (because the ASROCK mobo only allow to have 2 sticks, and I can only get 512 sticks of this memory DDR, I want to keep the DDR550 thinking in OC it). Of course stay with same CPU. TOTAL = 310-330 euros

No matter what I decide now I will upgrade to a serious PCIe rig when Storm of War: Battle of Britain will be released (end of this year-spring 2008?), in the meantime I want to upgrade the gfx card to OC the rest of the rig.

I think the option A is more balanced with the rest of the rig (CPU, etc), but it's more expensive. I don't see the point of having a 8800GTS in a Prescott CPU, DDR1 based rig and 1 Gb RAM, as these components will bottleneck the 8800GTS down to the levels of a 7950GT (Am I wrong?), and considering that when SOW:BoB is released I'll upgrade another time mobo, DDR-->DDR2 (DDR3?), and at that time I could get a NVIDIA 9xxxGT. Of course I could change the 8800GTS in the same way I would change the 7950GT AGP when serious upgrade arrives. I only mean with that, I see pointless buying a 8800GTS based on thinking on keep it when I'll do the "serious" upgrade...

The VIA chipset of the ASROCK does not make me happy. I have heard of some problems with them. I'm afraid of having trouble with stereoscopic gaming (which I am going to do) and this chipset. Stereo gaming is a bit tricky and sensible...

You see the level of price I want to spend on this "prolongation of life" for my current rig. If you are not still tired of my thinking and questions, could you give me your advice about the smarter option? As you can see, it is not only about a comparison 7950GT vs 8800GTS, which I think it is clear, it is about the whole scenario/PC.

Tx a lot! Any advice is very appreciated.

Albrecht Von Hesse
04-05-07, 10:09 PM
What I know about video cards could be engraved on the head of a pin.

A small pin.

A very small pin.

I've gotten some help already but I'm in need of more. So far it seems my choices are narrowed down to 2 cards (I'm kind of stuck in choice selections, as I'm limited to only PCI--my system won't accept PCIe or AGP). They are the VisionTek’s Radeon® X1300 Dual Display DMS59 PCI graphics card and the VisionTek’s Radeon® X1300 SFF PCI graphics card.

I can't tell what the differences are, or the pros/cons of them. I also can't tell if they'll pull more power than my system can support, or if there'll be any other problems using them (like overheating). As they aren't exactly giving these things away, I'd like to have a better understanding as to what's up with the cards first before I buy.

Thanking you all in advance!

canimodo
04-05-07, 10:19 PM
My opinion, not a hardware geek but....

Dont waste your money in old PCI cards. If your systems runs SH4, keep playing it and saving money (i can send you a ´SAVE TROPICAL WHITE BUTTED PARROTS´campaing that gave me my last upgrade - it´s just print and collect)....

do some upgrade later this year, go for PCIe if money lets you, but AGP is good too (i use it) !!!

:yep:

Teh_Diplomat
04-05-07, 10:23 PM
What I know about video cards could be engraved on the head of a pin.

A small pin.

A very small pin.

I've gotten some help already but I'm in need of more. So far it seems my choices are narrowed down to 2 cards (I'm kind of stuck in choice selections, as I'm limited to only PCI--my system won't accept PCIe or AGP). They are the VisionTek’s Radeon® X1300 Dual Display DMS59 PCI graphics card and the VisionTek’s Radeon® X1300 SFF PCI graphics card.

I can't tell what the differences are, or the pros/cons of them. I also can't tell if they'll pull more power than my system can support, or if there'll be any other problems using them (like overheating). As they aren't exactly giving these things away, I'd like to have a better understanding as to what's up with the cards first before I buy.

Thanking you all in advance!

After looking at both cards from the manufacturers Website they have indentical specs. The former(Radeon® X1300 Dual Display DMS59 PCI) has the ability to display on Dual monitors; The only variance noted.

Grothesj2
04-05-07, 11:16 PM
What ever you decide, make sure your power supply is up to snuff. Lot of standard computers have whimpy power supplies and you'll need to replace it for a new card.

Rose
04-06-07, 05:32 AM
I have a problem installing the 1.1 patch. It begins initializes installation, but then a message pops up saying "Could not detect a previous version of SH4. Can not proceed with installation." Even though I DO have the vanilla version... Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rose
04-06-07, 05:43 AM
I have a problem installing the 1.1 patch. It begins initializes installation, but then a message pops up saying "Could not detect a previous version of SH4. Can not proceed with installation." Even though I DO have the vanilla version... Any help would be greatly appreciated.

basilio
04-06-07, 09:28 AM
First of all my Pc configuration:
Pentium 4 with 3 Ghz
2 Ghz of RAM
ATI Radeon X 1950 PRO 512 RAM
I just purchased the above card, as with my previous Radeon 9800 XT the game was unplayable (too low FPS).
ALL the in-game graphics option are maxed out and I'm playing at 1280x1024 resolution.
First screenshot:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7384/70286566ab0.jpg
Apart from the lack of the AA, shouldn't the image quality be a little bit better?
Honestly I don't see so much difference from my previous 9800 XT apart from 25-30 FPS now instead of 8-9 and, in my opinion, the SH3 graphics is still much better!
Second screenshot:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5797/97589174km4.jpg

It seems that my card has some problems in rendering the sub deck.
I edited this second picture only to make it brighter.
Again, is it normal?
Last note: everything is maxed out in the Catalyst Control Center.
Please, should you had my same video card tell me if there is something wrong....
Many thanks in advance and apologize for my english!

TDK1044
04-06-07, 09:38 AM
If you loaded the Drivers from the CD that came with the card, go to the Ati website and download the latest Drivers. The Drivers on the CD are probably six months old.

basilio
04-06-07, 09:39 AM
Hello,
many thanks for your answer!
The drivers are the Catalyst 7.3, so they are the last.

Iron Budokan
04-06-07, 10:06 AM
What I know about video cards could be engraved on the head of a pin.

A small pin.

A very small pin.

I've gotten some help already but I'm in need of more. So far it seems my choices are narrowed down to 2 cards (I'm kind of stuck in choice selections, as I'm limited to only PCI--my system won't accept PCIe or AGP). They are the VisionTek’s Radeon® X1300 Dual Display DMS59 PCI graphics card and the VisionTek’s Radeon® X1300 SFF PCI graphics card.

I can't tell what the differences are, or the pros/cons of them. I also can't tell if they'll pull more power than my system can support, or if there'll be any other problems using them (like overheating). As they aren't exactly giving these things away, I'd like to have a better understanding as to what's up with the cards first before I buy.

Thanking you all in advance!

I use the PCI X1300 and it works fine.

Iron Budokan
04-06-07, 10:07 AM
I have a problem installing the 1.1 patch. It begins initializes installation, but then a message pops up saying "Could not detect a previous version of SH4. Can not proceed with installation." Even though I DO have the vanilla version... Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Uninstall your game, reinstall it, then add the patch.

flintlock
04-06-07, 10:10 AM
This is a normal, albeit somewhat distracting moire like effect caused by the closely spaced lines on some sub decks. I too experience the phenomenon, whether using an X1950 Pro or an 8800 GTX. This is not a graphics driver related issue.

Gizzmoe
04-06-07, 10:10 AM
Basilio, make sure that in the ATI control panel "Texture Preference" and "MipMap Detail Level" are set to "High Quality".

SKurj
04-06-07, 10:18 AM
Looks same for me Basilio, using a 1950pro 256 with cat 7.3s

Nothing you can do about it, as far as I know.

You aren't really playin 1280 x 1024, you are actually playing at 1024x768 stretched to fit. Supposedly they are working on giving us true higher resolutions with the next patch..

Dustyboats
04-06-07, 10:55 AM
I may be old (well compared to the many in SubSim) but I can still absorb knowledge. Is there a kind person out there who would help me to improve my computing skills and knowledge. Half the time I do not understand the "Computer Speak" you use; whats an ini, how do you use Note Pad to open files...etc. etc. etc!!!!!?????
Such a project will not go un-rewarded. Anyone who takes me on as a pupil will either receive £100 Sterling personally or I will donate the same amount to SubSim so that the many may benefit.
I have looked at courses on the net but find them limited, expensive and really nothing to do with all the projects you are involved in, that I follow sheep like....I would like to know more please.
I hope the Moderator's do not mind me advertising in this way or that this against SubSim rules. I can assure you its a genuine plea......Thanks for reading so far anyway......Dusty. (Submarine Vet.)

unruhly
04-06-07, 11:58 AM
PM sent to DustyBoats

humesdog
04-06-07, 12:56 PM
I'm upgrading my computer. Currently have dell optiplex gx520 p4 3GHz, 1GB RAM(adding another GB)
1) How important is the sound card? I looked at my sytem info and the only info I could glean about my sound is that I have SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio. I'm assuming this is onboard? Will it work ok?
2) How do I determine what sort of video card I can install as far as PCI, PCIe and AGP? Once I open the CPU what will tell me this?

Thanks in advance.

unruhly
04-06-07, 02:12 PM
I'm upgrading my computer. Currently have dell optiplex gx520 p4 3GHz, 1GB RAM(adding another GB)
1) How important is the sound card? I looked at my sytem info and the only info I could glean about my sound is that I have SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio. I'm assuming this is onboard? Will it work ok?
2) How do I determine what sort of video card I can install as far as PCI, PCIe and AGP? Once I open the CPU what will tell me this?

Thanks in advance.

Depending on the form factor of your computer (mini-tower, baby case, etc.) you might be able to install an aftermarket card. The minitower can accept a PCIexpress 1.0 card, but to be quite frank, the Optiplex system is designed for business applications and is not going to be beefy enough for SHIV.
This is from the Dell site on the Small Tower box:
Expansion Bus
Bus type
PCI 2.3
SATA 1.0a and 2.0
USB 2.0
PCI Express 1.0a
Bus speed
PCI: 33 MHz
SATA: 1.5 Gbps and 3.0 Gbps
USB: 480 Mbps
PCI Express x1: 5 Gbps
Cards:
full-height cards supported

Hartmann
04-06-07, 02:42 PM
I have a 6600 gt video card and can run sh4 at low framerates, 10 to 25 depending of the situation.

i have now the 77.72 drivers and runs ok with every game in my disk but i was thinking in upgrade the nvidia drivers to the last released but i don´t know if it could be ok or not with my old card.

could work the new drivers in my card or i can loose framerates ?? :hmm:

JDHartman
04-06-07, 05:36 PM
Hello guys!
I just got the game, installed it and patched it up to version 1.1. Now i ran the game for the first time with everything set to highest and it looks like something is not right. First of all, antialiasing is not working.The crew members look like ghosts, i can see through them.Sometimes the ships around me show up as a square piece of texture, not an actual model.
My sys specs are:
Windows XP Home, 3.00Ghz Pentium 4, ATI Radeon x800xl 256mb catalyst 7.2, 1024RAM. I am going out right now to get an extra Gig of ram but i doubt thats gonna help.
When i tried to intall Directx that came with the game i got some error message saying it could not be installed for some weird reason.Also, just remembered, when i started the game the first time it gave me an error about missing d3dx9_32.dll file.So i downloaded and put it to my System folder.So i guess that means my latest version of DirectX went corrupted somehow and version 8.0 is running the game.Anyway, thats what i think. Can anyone give me a suggestion please?

This is what i found in DXError.log
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[04/06/07 18:48:01] module: dsetup32(Mar 30 2007), file: setup.cpp, line: 1701, function: CSetup::SetupForDirectX

InstallPlugIn() failed.

Dustyboats
04-06-07, 06:53 PM
I may be old (well compared to the many in SubSim) but I can still absorb knowledge. Is there a kind person out there who would help me to improve my computing skills and knowledge. Half the time I do not understand the "Computer Speak" you use; whats an ini, how do you use Note Pad to open files...etc. etc. etc!!!!!?????
Such a project will not go un-rewarded. Anyone who takes me on as a pupil will either receive £100 Sterling personally or I will donate the same amount to SubSim so that the many may benefit.
I have looked at courses on the net but find them limited, expensive and really nothing to do with all the projects you are involved in, that I follow sheep like....I would like to know more please.
I hope the Moderator's do not mind me advertising in this way or that this against SubSim rules. I can assure you its a genuine plea......Thanks for reading so far anyway......Dusty. (Submarine Vet.)
Thanks everyone....All fixed up now......Dusty

Ayari
04-07-07, 02:17 AM
I have no idea, but no the game is installing. It was like my computer took a vacation for 45 minutes. Probably knew that it was going to get tested with SH 4 for many days to come. Thank you. All fixed, I think.

i am glad you got it working.

the story below is for those rare times when you just cannot find the problem when your cd is not reading and your computer says "please insert disk" when you know damm well there is a cd in there:huh:

......

this used to happen to me all the time, i would just buy another cd-rom since they are a dime a dozen now-a-days.

untill my boys' playstation stop reading any disks one day and they both started searching for a fix. they found out that there is an adjustment inside the cd reader that raises and/or lowers the laser doohickey:hmm: the kids took the most scratched up game cd they could find and kept adjusting it till it read it. from then on, that playstaion reads everything short of a all the way through cracked disk :yep:

i had them go at my two old cd drives that could not read the broad side of a barn. sure enough both work fine now...


I have/had the exact same problem. My dvd-rom drive read/s every other game but this one ( it even read the bonus dvd-movie). I updated my firmware, adjust the eye a little, and even cleaned it ( as advised in this thread), and nothing.:damn: I have tried for 2 whole days to get it to just read the disk, hoping it will install but to no avail.

I have since ordered a new one, and am hoping for the best. I just hope I can at the very least get it installed cause I am dying to play this game:arrgh!:
You can check my earlier posts on this problem .... it's been dogging me since I received the program. It works once and then I can't get the program to load again. Brand new system, Vista, Nvidia Geforce 7900GS, etc. Reloaded program and then after closing it fails to work again. Just a spinning disk. got it to work twice in 3 days! Finally I added a three year old external DVD drive and it works every time! Am afraid to see if it will work on the drive that came with my new system until I play the game for a while. Knock on wood. I love this game ... beautiful graphics and exciting simulation. Haven't played enough to experience other bugs mentioned elsewhere. One last thought ... the only other variable I haven't tracked yet was that I think the program failed to load after I changed the computer's display from 1920 X 1200 to a lower setting. I had loaded the game @ 1920 X 1200 and then changed the setting to a lower lever (but not within the game!) and after I closed the game wouldn't play again. I did this after the two times it worked with the same result thinking it would improve the game's graphics. It has worked every time for two days on the external DVD with the settings it was installed under. Good luck.

Thanks for the well wishes. My new DVD-ROM should be here in a few days: I will be stoked if it just installs, as I am really wanting to play this bugs galore or not. It was time to upgrade anyways I guess: not that mine did not work or anything (except for SH4), just getting a bit old and the new one will at least match comp. case. Although you said you put a 3 year old external drive in and it worked. Weird.:dead:

A buddy of mine is getting the game soon also, hopefully he does not run into trubs. If he does I will direct him to this site cause it blows UBI's forums outta the water ( pun intended)

Edit: i will post the good or bad news when it arrives < crosses fingers>
Here's what I found out on my system. The game now works in either my new or my old drive. No problems. I installed the game at my computer's display setting of 1920 X 1200. I found out that if I later change the computer setting to something else it will not display at all. The disk spins until it stops. If you hit Control Alt Delete and look at your task manager you will see that the game is listed under processes. It's there but not displaying. If you change the settings on your computer back to the what the game was installed under it will not display until you go back to Control Alt Delete and end the "SH4.exe" file that is still running. After that it will still run. I don't know if this is a bug but apparently you can't change the display on the computer (not the setting in the game) or it won't work ... at least not on my machine. Anyway, it's running great every time now on either DVD drive.

I got my new sony DVD-ROM the other day, game installed and is running great so far. I am still at a loss as to why it would not even recognize on my old one. Wish I could give better information as to why it did not work before: other than buying a new one fixed my problem:huh:

Siegfried von Funk
04-07-07, 03:41 AM
Does anybody run this card with SH4? I know it's not on the "Supprted" list, but since it's in between the Nvidia 6200 to 7800, was it just left out of the list inadvertantly or is there something about it that won't run the game?
I need to know pretty quick...THX in advance...

marka
04-07-07, 07:02 AM
Silent Hunter 4 can not initialize 3D engine gf8800gts 320mb help.

Drebbel
04-07-07, 07:29 AM
Silent Hunter 4 can not initialize 3D engine gf8800gts 320mb help.

Do you have the DirectX that came with the game and the latest video drivers for you card ?

How about closing down all other applications, also in the system tray, before running SH4

And of course run Windows update.

Above are a few steps I would start out with

marka
04-07-07, 07:44 AM
driver nvidia 97.94. dx9(apr.),win xp sp2,audigy 2zs,core 2duo2.4g,1gb ddr,monitor 19 res.(1280*1024)-lcd 1080i (1368*760).Run SH4 error can not initialize 3D engine. gf8800gts 320mb help.

Redwine
04-07-07, 07:54 AM
driver nvidia 97.94. dx9(apr.),win xp sp2,audigy 2zs,core 2duo2.4g,1gb ddr,monitor 19 res.(1280*1024)-lcd 1080i (1368*760).Run SH4 error can not initialize 3D engine. gf8800gts 320mb help.

A small change into a smple line of text can crash the game...

Did you renaming the initial videos, create a folder calle back -up where they are, and put they inside. May be you have not some video codec.

They are into

C:\...\Data\Movies\Intro\

Put both videos into....

C:\...\Data\Movies\Intro\Back-up

May be can help.

Drebbel
04-07-07, 07:55 AM
I guess you tried the stuff I already listed.

I assume you rebooted, have 1.1 installed ?

How about runnnig DXdiag (start>run>dxdiag) and do all tests, maybe that will show some errors.

Some people also reported you definately have to install the DirectX from the dvd and not keep the ones that are already on your system.

Do you have any other 3D games installed on your system ?

Rose
04-07-07, 08:05 AM
Does installing a patch erase your save games? I should defenitely know the answer but alas, I don't :oops:.

Drebbel
04-07-07, 08:08 AM
Does installing a patch erase your save games? I should defenitely know the answer but alas, I don't :oops:.

From the readme

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3. Installation
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Please make sure that you are installing the right patch for your game version.
1. Before installing Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific Patch 1.1 please close all other programs.
2. Run patch installation file.
3. Follow the instructions.
Upon installation you can run the game either from windows start menu ('Start' -> 'All Programs' -> 'Ubisoft' -> 'Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific' -> or use 'Silent HUnter4.exe' file from the game installation directory (By default, the game will be installed into
"C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 4").

Note 1: The save games and replays that were made with the original version of Silent Hunter 4 will be incompatible with the new patch version.
Note 2: In Base autosaving are compatible between original version and Patch
Note 3: Multiplayer (LAN or Online) connection between the original version of Silent Hunter 4 and the new patch version is not possible.