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[Packerton]

I know my system is not hot


5500 FX
2.4 GHZ celeron
768 RAM


But alot of people told me it would be very playable on lowest settings...


Well here I am running it on lowest settings...AND IT HAS LOW FPS IN THE PRE PATROL ROOM....and in the game its not playable at all unless I stay on the sub management screen...

Anything I can force to make it run better?

[Platapus]

The first thing I would recommend is bump up that RAM. I honestly do not think you can expect to run SH4 with less than one gig of ram.


Ram is cheap these days. Give that a try.

Good luck

[NefariousKoel]

Graphics Card... the 5 series was horrible and quite outdated now.

Secondly, RAM. I'm pretty sure even with 1GB of RAM, you'll still be using some virutal memory but not near as much as you are now. At least 1.5GB would be good, 2GB the best.

Of course, that 2.4Ghz Celeron .. well, you probably know already.:-?

[Packerton]

How come my friend who has a 5700 has not many problems at all?

[Drebbel]

How come my friend who has a 5700 has not many problems at all?

What are his system specs ?

I have a P4 3 Ghz, 1GB RAM, and a FX5600 and came to the conclusion my system is not ready for SH4. As is of course to be expected with a vid-crad like mine.

[Packerton]

Cmon...theirs gotta be a way to force DX 8.0 or 7.0 on SH 4...I mean I can run Silent hunter 3 no problem with this computer right?

[panthercules]

Sorry if this is in here somewhere already - tried reading through all pages of this thread but my eyes may have glazed over a bit in parts.

Anyway - my game (and everything else on my PC) seems to be working fine, EXCEPT that I can't play the intro movie in SH4 - the video looks fine but the sound skips badly for some reason. I've uninstalled and re-installed SH4 and patched to 1.1 - currently running no mods (it happened before and after the re-install), and I've installed and re-installed the latest Sound drivers I could find on the SB site (SB Audigy 2 ZS, driver version 5.12.4.1196). I installed the DirectX version on the SH4 DVD.

System specs (from DXDIAG, which showed no problems) are:

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Page File: 270MB used, 3669MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Video Card = GeForce 7950 GT, with latest official drivers I could find on the nVidia website (Forceware 93.71)

Any idea what the problem might be or how to fix it?

[edit] I had a flash and thought I was going to be able to fix this - I tried just playing the movie outside the game by double-clicking the intro.wmv file, and it fired up in something called Ashampoo Player (something I'd downloaded a long time ago to deal with some .ogg files in SH3, I think), and it stuttered when it played in that too. I switched over to playing it in Windows Media Player, and it played fine. So, I changed the .wmv file association to open with Windows Media player, and even uninstalled Ashampoo and rebooted, but although it will play fine outside the game now it still skips (audio) very badly in the game. Now that I've watched it, it's so weird I probably will never want to watch it again anyway, but I'd still like to figure out what's screwing it up in case it might also be screwing up something else in the game I'm not aware of yet.

Any ideas?

[Hazelwood]

I know my system is not hot


5500 FX
2.4 GHZ celeron
768 RAM


But alot of people told me it would be very playable on lowest settings...




Hi Packerton,

Unfortunately, this sim is very demanding. My gaming machine is a good deal better than yours but someone in here called it "crap" when I first reported problems with choppy frame-rate. Tough love. The Celeron suggests your motherboard my have a lower-tier chipset, compromising memory access but this is unlikely to be the real problem. You really need 2 GB RAM and a much better video card. I was using a Radeon 9800 Pro and it could not cut the mustard. I upgraded to an X1650 and the sim is now smooth under all circumstances. It's like watching the movies. My system has P4 2.8 GHz and 2 GB of fast dual-port RAM with a fast chipset on the motherboard. The question for you is whether it is worth it to upgrade a Celeron-based machine or go for a new system. I would definitely do the latter but, of course, it means $$.

I know this is bad news if your budget is tight but it is the truth. If you have to disable most of the visual options to get smooth game play you are missing half the fun of this great sim.

best wishes,

Cpt. J. Hazelwood

[aanker]

I bought and installed the download version of SH4 and during the install I installed the GameShadow not knowing what it was. After reading some posts by others I see they didn't install GameShadow. Is it OK to uninstall it without damaging the game?

Edit:
I guess I'll leave GameShadow alone. My biggest 'problem' with the installation was when GameShadow decided to update my ATI drivers. Then the error messages began:


".NET Framework Initialization Error"
"To run this application, you must install one of the following versions of the .Net Framework:"
v2.0.50727
--------


Doing Google searches I found that I needed Version 2 of .NET for the ATI drivers (which is strange by itself) so I downloaded and installed .NET. Then a reboot and another error message:


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation, Version=2.0.2635.38969, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=90ba9c70f846762e' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."
--------


I found this one was related to the improper installation of the ATI Drivers. I looked up my card and saw that in order to install new drivers the old ones need to be uninstalled in a particular order. I followed the procedure, then installed the new drivers and everything was fine after that.


If this info is helpful to someone in a similar situation there it is.

Art

PS: Looks like SH4 will be a great game ... even more so after the patches I am patiently waiting for get released.

[Camaero]

Hey guys, I am thinking about making an upgrade for my system here and I wanted some advice.

I can really only afford one and they are both roughly the same price.

Right now I have a
AMD 3000+ processor
Radeon 9800XT 256mb graphics card
1 gig kingston ram

Now, what would make the biggest improvement for me, a Radeon X1600 Pro, or 2 gigs of duel channel ram?

Thanks for your comments.

[Snapdragon]

What would be the best settings for an ATI 9600XT video card using a AMD Athlon 64 at 3.2GHz (stock) and 2 gig RAM onboard. What game settings would be optimal..... I'm tweeking but can't seem to get anywhere. Help needed :hmm:

[Gizzmoe]

Now, what would make the biggest improvement for me, a Radeon X1600 Pro, or 2 gigs of duel channel ram?

The X1600 Pro is only slightly faster than your 9800XT, it would be a waste of money to upgrade to that card. Get a X1650 Pro with GDDR3 memory instead, it´s much faster than the X1600 Pro and costs only about 15% more. I would wait with the memory upgrade.

[Camaero]

Thanks Gizzmoe, I really appreciate the advice.

One last question, which one would you recommend?
This one:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2571839&CatId=318

Or this one:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2855873&CatId=318

Do you know if the "his" is worth the extra money? I would have to buy a new power supply if I got that one, so I probably can't afford it anyway. If it is worth the extra amount though, I could always wait and save up a little more.

Thanks again.:rock:

[Gizzmoe]

Do you know if the "his" is worth the extra money?
Theoretically, yes, but it´s way too expensive. For the same price you can get the much faster X1950 Pro:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2855869&CatId=935

I would have to buy a new power supply if I got that one
Yes, most likely.

[Camaero]

Do you know if the "his" is worth the extra money?
Theoretically, yes, but it´s way too expensive. For the same price you can get the much faster X1950 Pro:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2855869&CatId=935

I would have to buy a new power supply if I got that one
Yes, most likely.

I see...

Thanks for your help bud!:up:

[karmouz]

Hello,
I send this message because I have a strange behavior with my 7900 GTX.
Sometimes I have pixels on my desktop (like a Christmas tree) and when I start some games (Silent hunter 4; Oblivion), it’s the same during the game (pixels on maps, ….)
Las week I have installed Silent Hunter 4 and everything was fine the first day. The day after, a lot of problems (pixel, flash during the game, problems with the mouse & low performance). When I quit the game, my desktop is like a “mess” and the only solution I have is to reboot my computer.
My configuration is : AMD X2 3800+ ; Mb ASUS A8I SLI premium; Ram 2 GB Corsair; Asus 7900 GTX with driver 97.73; Screen Samsung 226 bw in 1600 x 1050.
Can you help me?
Thanks in advance
Karmouz

[cdrsubron7]

Try updating your video drivers, karmouz.




cdrsubron7 :up:

[karmouz]

I used Drive cleaner pro and set the most recent driver for nvidia Detonatro 97.73.
The result is the same ?

Karmouz

[seawolf34]

Quick & easy reply would be to say your video card sounds like it's developing a hardware fault. Could also be that your power supply is failing & not able to supply the video card with enough power & that could be causing the problems you describe.

It could also be one of heat & a good program for testing video cards is rthdribl (Real-Time High-Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting), this software will stress your card to the max & your know fairly quickly if it's a heat issue. Bring up the temperature monitor in the forceware control panel then start up rthdribl & watch the temp climb.

Am not sure about the 7900GTX but my old 7900GT used to idle around 44c & hit the high 50's, or low 60's in the summer when gaming

[Chrall]

Has anyone tried ATI Catalyst 7.3 and got it to work? I get a "Cannot initialize 3D engine" all the time.

Edit: Nevermind, found the problem. Game doesn't like triple buffering.

[JDHartman]

I downloaded ATI Catalyst 7.3 for my x800xl.But i dont see any differences and i dont have that error. But my computer has got a problem with this game in general.It won't listen to my cards settings.I don't see antialiasing,adaptive antialising working in the game at all.All the other ingame highest settings work though. But without the two mentioned above the game looks like its being run on lowest possible!
i run Win XP pro, 3.00ghz pentium 4,2 gig ram, ati radeon x800xl with directx from the cd that comes with the game.All other games run nice and smooth like STALKER, for example.

[Gizzmoe]

But my computer has got a problem with this game in general.It won't listen to my cards settings.I don't see antialiasing,adaptive antialising working in the game at all.

SH4´s graphics engine doesn´t support AA, the devs said they hope they can include it in patch 1.2.

[JDHartman]

But my computer has got a problem with this game in general.It won't listen to my cards settings.I don't see antialiasing,adaptive antialising working in the game at all.

SH4´s graphics engine doesn´t support AA, the devs said they hope they can include it in patch 1.2.

Thanks for clarifying that! And i hope they include AA in that patch.For me, the game looks too ugly to play at the moment.But on screenshots it looks pretty good even without AA.How can you explain that? Photoshop?

[Gizzmoe]

Thanks for clarifying that! And i hope they include AA in that patch.For me, the game looks too ugly to play at the moment.But on screenshots it looks pretty good even without AA.How can you explain that? Photoshop?

Make sure that "Texture Preference" and "MipMap Detail Level" are set to "High Quality" in the ATI control panel. Some had it set Performance or High Performance and that makes some games look ugly.

[Camaero]

I have been shopping around a bit and I wonder what you think the best bang for your buck video card is? The two I am considering most is the ATI 1650 Pro and the HIS Radeon 1950Pro. Both are roughly in my price range, but the 1950 is pushing it at $200 from tigerdirect.

Also, are the HIS or Saphire cards worth it compared to the standard ATI cards? I start to get confused when I see all that stuff with the same card.

Vielen dank!:up: (I hope thats right...):damn:

[Gizzmoe]

The two I am considering most is the ATI 1650 Pro and the HIS Radeon 1950Pro. Both are roughly in my price range, but the 1950 is pushing it at $200 from tigerdirect.
The X1950 Pro costs $15 more than the 1650 Pro and is at least twice as fast. Do I need to say more? ;)

[Camaero]

The two I am considering most is the ATI 1650 Pro and the HIS Radeon 1950Pro. Both are roughly in my price range, but the 1950 is pushing it at $200 from tigerdirect.
The X1950 Pro costs $15 more than the 1650 Pro and is at least twice as fast. Do I need to say more? ;)

Hell no!
Heh, Thank you sir.:up: :rock:

[clayp]

The two I am considering most is the ATI 1650 Pro and the HIS Radeon 1950Pro. Both are roughly in my price range, but the 1950 is pushing it at $200 from tigerdirect.
The X1950 Pro costs $15 more than the 1650 Pro and is at least twice as fast. Do I need to say more? ;)

Are these AGP cards??

[Gizzmoe]

Are these AGP cards??

Yes.

[Fearless]

Ok, just two questions if I may.

1. Sailing along, the ocean waves decided to litterally shake left to right as if I was sitting on top of an earth quake (maybe I did :D) but after a while the wave movement went back to normal hence no more shaking. I have a nVidia GForce 6200 256mb GCard with the latest drivers.

2. I was entering Wake Island and all of a sudden CTD giving me a message saying something like memory error has occurred at code 0x1x0..... (something like that) referring to SH4.exe.

Any ideas on these.

Thanks in advance.

[rman214]

Have a p4 3.0 with 80 gig hard drive,1.5 gig memory and a radeon x1650 video card. Have SH3 already installed all my other games and programs work fine. Installed SH4 and the 1.1 patch and got it to work having a random crash every now and then, downloaded and installed the radio mod and the real diesel sounds....worked great and had good frames (15-19) in Pearl with high detail, even did a dynamic patrol over 2 days without any problems. Yesterday, went to used cd store and bought some '40's music cd's in near new condition, switched them to MP3 format and put them in my gramaphone file. Ever since then my computer crashes usually after I select a mission, even sub school. Since then I have removed the MP3 files,all other non stock files, dumped and reloaded the game and the patch, re-scanned for viruses,cleaned out my cookies and nothing seems to work!! the computer crashes and switches off all the time now when I try SH4. So I tried SH3 and now I am having problems with it when I never had any. Can anyone help?:damn: :damn: :damn: :damn: :damn: :damn:

[MobyGrape]

Game gives Must close Right after UBI intro..
Sometimes if I left click mouse ..as UBI screen ends I can get to Intro Movie screen and Load..Seeing . ac3.da error in the message box..when it doesn't load...Thanks

[EinsteinEP]

My apologies if this quesiton or topic is answered elsewhere: I tried searching and scoured the forums and was unable to find the specific answer I'm looking for, although I know *someone* out there knows it.

What are *all* the control commands for the external camera in SH3 and SH4? Click and move your mouse to point the camera, up-arrow and down-arrow to move forward and backward along the line-of-sight, hold shift to make faster movements, control to make slower, but what about slewing up and down?

Any other controls?

It'd be nice for someone a lot smarter than me to put all the controls in a neat little table in a forum post so lazy swine like me can cut and paste them and add them to their cheat sheets.

EP

[Tigrone]

They're on page 99 of the manual and on both the front and back of your quick reference card.

[_alphaBeta_]

Anyone successfully running this game with a 7900 card? I notice the list of supported chipsets stops at 7800. Specifically I have a BFG GeForce 7900 GT.

I also noticed that Windows 2000 is no longer on most of the supported lists I've come across for SH4. Does it not work on Windows 2000, or is Ubisoft simply not supporting Windows 2000?

[Prof]

Anyone successfully running this game with a 7900 card? I notice the list of supported chipsets stops at 7800. Specifically I have a BFG GeForce 7900 GT.I'm running it on a 7900GTO (which is a down-clocked 7900GTX) with no more than the usual problems :)

[_alphaBeta_]

I'm running it on a 7900GTO (which is a down-clocked 7900GTX) with no more than the usual problems :)
Usual problems? :hmm:

Any word on Windows 2000? I'd rather not spend $300 on XP pro unless I really have to...

[Prof]

I'm running it on a 7900GTO (which is a down-clocked 7900GTX) with no more than the usual problems :) Usual problems? :hmm:

Any word on Windows 2000? I'd rather not spend $300 on XP pro unless I really have to...Hehe, I was referring to the lack of AA, fixed resolution, transparent crew and occasional 'monolith FPS death' bug. Otherwise it all works fine :)

Can't help you with your Win2k question, sorry.

[Seapup]

Anyone successfully running this game with a 7900 card? I notice the list of supported chipsets stops at 7800. Specifically I have a BFG GeForce 7900 GT.

I also noticed that Windows 2000 is no longer on most of the supported lists I've come across for SH4. Does it not work on Windows 2000, or is Ubisoft simply not supporting Windows 2000?

I'm running it with an Nvidia Geforce 7900GS without any problems except what has generally been reported by others in terms of game play. All options are at maximum. Looks great. FYI ... Vista, Dual Core @ 1.86GHz, 1.98 memory, 527 available graphics memory (RAM), Driver version 7.14.10.9686, 24 inch HD monitor @ 1920 x 1200. Replaced CPU power supply from minimum rec. 350 Watts to 650 watts to prevent possible overheating from card, etc. Would be nice if Ubi fixed anti-aliasing and upped resolution settings on software .... etc. etc. For now I'm having fun playing missions to improve skills. Won't play in career mode until bugs are fixed in update. It sounds too frustrating to bother.

[rman214]

Yeah after much head scatching and trying different things I figured out why my system crashes so often (no thanks to anyone in this forum, I might add:down: )....All I can say is: I don't care if you bought your video card yesterday, there probably is a supeceded driver for it. I downloaded the very latest driver for mine and it works as it should. It says to check in the notepad for the 1.1 patch so I suggest anyone having problems read the fine print first. Hope it helps somebody.

[Periscope]

Well, my PC is now older than three years and in SH4-all settings at lowest- I get max. 30FPS. I cannot even go into the commanders room because I get lamely 3FPS there in average.
-> AMD Athlon 2800+ CPU
512MB Ram :dead:
128 MB Graphics Card ATi Radeon 9800 Atlantis Pro
1 WD4000KS HDD (sATA-II, 400GB)
ePox Mainboard 8RDA3+

So I will have (and want) to buy a new system…
Here it is:
Case: Aerocool ExtremEngine 3T with 2 additional 80mm fans
Power Supply: be quiet!Titan BQT E5-700W Straight Power 700Watt
Mainboard: Asus Striker Extreme S775 NF680I-SL
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6600 2400MHz S775 4MB Box – or I’ll wait until the second quarter of the year where Intel wants to lower the prices. Then I’ll buy an E6700 for the price of “my” E6600.
Graphics: 768MB Point of View 8800GTX PCIe Retail or comparable – see at bottom
RAM: Kingston ValueRAM DDR2 2048MB (2X1GB) PC800 CL5
HDD: 2x 400GB Western Digital WD4000KS Caviar 7200rpm sATA II 16MB (Raid 0)
Optical Devices: Samsung DVD sATA device
Sound Card: Trust 5.1 SURROUND SOUND CARD SC-525
Altogether this system makes me cost approx. 1714€ but I think I will have fun with it some longer time as with my old one.

I’m not quite sure when I will buy it, but I have enough time to change something, so: What do you think of the board? It's quite expensive. Do you have another choice for me which supports SLi? It should have the ability to upgrade sth.. E.g. faster RAM.
What do you think of the graphics card? It is officially not supported by SH4 and it is quite expensive, too - is there an comparable alternative? What about the 8800GTS which officialy either is not supported by UBI? I heard that some people have problems with 8800' cards...
Or is the ATi 1950XTX an alternative? Then I anyway had to take another Mainboard which supports Crossfire..
In overall, what do you think of the system? Has someone a comparable system and can tell me his SH4 in-game experience and settings?

Oh and btw... are the be quiet! Power supplys as silent as their name restricts them to be? ;)
Aaaaaand... What does Dual Channel RAM mean? Is it an option which I e.g. can activate in BIOS or is it a feature of some RAM modules? What does this option influence?

Sooo many questions...

Greetings,
Periscope - At every time some feet above the surface. :arrgh!:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Bump:yep:

[MONOLITH]

I'm in the process of building my own rig right now, and the Asus Extreme 680i board is an excellent choice. About the best you can buy right now. Good choice.

[flintlock]

the Asus Extreme 680i board is an excellent choice. About the best you can buy right now. It's one of the best if you're specifically after a Nvidia nForce 680i SLI chipset based board.

[MONOLITH]

Yes. Sorry, I thought that was self evident (SLI).

It's also Intel only, so not for the AMD inclined.

[Sagan]

Upgrade the RAM first!!! Thats the biggest and cheapest noticeable difference you'll see in the game. Add 512mb to sum up 1GB.

If you have spare change go for a 7600GS agp 8x, they aren't expensive. The processor is a bit lame but its still an AMD so you might have to change that last.

[Quillan]

Me, I don't recommend SLI. I feel it's a waste of money, unless you just have money to burn for insane performance. A single card of that type should give you all the performance you could ask for. You don't really NEED to run games at 2048x1536 resolution. Personally, I feel 1600x1200 is more than enough; you may disagree. You chose a nice processor; it's what I would get if I were building a new computer right now. I don't see anything wrong with the other components, though I'm not familiar with the brand of the power supply or sound card.

The concept of "upgrading to an SLI configuration later" is a fallacy in most cases. If you don't have the money to afford two of those 8800GTX cards, right now, then you have to worry about "will they be available when I can?". Running SLI requires two identical video cards, so unless you put a second one in pretty quickly you may not be able to do it at all. I recommend going with just one video card, saving money by purchasing a non-SLI board, and putting that savings into improving some other component of the system.

[wingtip]

if ya wanna build a good rig, here are my specs on my rig i just built two months ago.. mainly for the upcoming game crysis. this thing rocks and i dont even have the logbook lag everyone is crying about... and i run everything maxed.
and, ignore what the guy said bout buying cheap ram... especially in the ram dept you get what you pay for.. perfect example if your familiar with the vista scoring system one guy was foaming at the mouth mad cause my 2 gigs ram out scored his 3 gigs ... mine had lower latency and more operations per second than his "cheap" ram.


Vista Enterprise 64bit
AMD athelon dual core X2 64 5200Windsor AM2 cpu
asus crosshair AM2 motherboard
evga Gforce8800GTS 640meg vid card
680 watt power supply
corsair dominator ddr2 800 44412 2x1gig ram (2 gigs total)
western digital raptor 10,000 rpm 150 gig hard drive

[Hans-Ulrich Rudel]

Gosh, I am sooo hooked on this game that I too lashed out $3.5 k on a new computer system!

[ironkross]

Me, I don't recommend SLI. I feel it's a waste of money, unless you just have money to burn for insane performance. A single card of that type should give you all the performance you could ask for. You don't really NEED to run games at 2048x1536 resolution. Personally, I feel 1600x1200 is more than enough; you may disagree. You chose a nice processor; it's what I would get if I were building a new computer right now. I don't see anything wrong with the other components, though I'm not familiar with the brand of the power supply or sound card.

The concept of "upgrading to an SLI configuration later" is a fallacy in most cases. If you don't have the money to afford two of those 8800GTX cards, right now, then you have to worry about "will they be available when I can?". Running SLI requires two identical video cards, so unless you put a second one in pretty quickly you may not be able to do it at all. I recommend going with just one video card, saving money by purchasing a non-SLI board, and putting that savings into improving some other component of the system.
I built my system last summer with a SLI board and one card (a 6800 with intentions of buying another later) but in 6-7 months I'm going to upgrade again and I know I won't be buying another 6800 card, as 2 6800's won't be better than one 8800. So for me buying an SLI board isn't worth the extra money. BTW SHIV runs pretty ok for me right now on one 6800.

[SteamWake]

Why is this in the SH4 forum ?

[Periscope]

Hi guys!
Thanks for your answers.
I think I will buy the system exactly as I posted above but instead of the additional sound card I will use the onboard sound at first. I know someone who has the same mainboard and he is happy with it.
According the SLi discussion I realised that I do not want to buy two 8800GTX. I'll buy just one.
According to news I read some days ago (at the moment I seriously ask myself WHERE I read it, I can't find it any longer...) I will wait until the second quarter of the year where Intel wants to lower the price of the E6700 to the current price of the E6600. I'll buy an E6700 then. Quad core CPU's are nothing for me.

Although I have a upgrade coupon for Vista Buisness I'll keep using XP Pro for some weeks/months/years..;)

Thanks for your opinions and
Greetings from Germany,
Periscope.:)

[sqk7744]

This XP Clean-up checklist is also helpful:
http://www.compuglobalhypermeganet.t...pChecklist.doc (http://www.compuglobalhypermeganet.tv/images/sh4/SH4WinXPCleanupChecklist.doc)

* Credit for SH4 virtual memory to 6000/6000 -posted on the SH4 Tweak thread.

Enjoy!

[EinsteinEP]

They're on page 99 of the manual and on both the front and back of your quick reference card.

Ah. Apparently my use of asterisks around the world "all" and specificly worded question of "but what about slewing up and down?" wasn't stated nearly clearly enough.

My bad. I'll try again.

In several video clips of SH3 and SH4 out there (some by Ubisoft, some apparently by others) you can clearly see the external camera slewing (or moving or panning) UP and DOWN. However, there is no reference to commands that slew (or move or pan) the camera UP and DOWN in either page 99 of the manual nor on either side of the reference card, per the helpful poster's feedback, hence my question:

Does anyone know the keyboard commands used to slew (e.g., move, or pan) the external camera UP or DOWN? These commands are not listed in the manual or on the reference card.

I've also searched the boards using various keywords (external, free, camera, view, control, pan, move, slew, command, key, etc.) and was unable to find the list.

I've been punching buttons while in external camera mode, but have only managed to surface, crash dive, open and close torpedo doors, and, occasionally, CTD. I can keep punching away at every combination and permutation of keys possible, but was hoping someone out there actually knew those commands, and, possibly, others that may be interesting/helpful.

Any help on the topic of the slew/move/pan commands for the external camera in SH3 and/or SH4 would be appreciated.

Hopefully that's clearly stated now.

[unruhly]

I'm pretty sure it's the 'Home' and 'End' keys. If not, try PgUp, PgDn.

[sqk7744]

Ctrl and either Left - Right arrow key slews lateral

Shift and fwrd - Back Arrow (highspeed) slews fwrd/bck

[EinsteinEP]

I'm pretty sure it's the 'Home' and 'End' keys. If not, try PgUp, PgDn.

Unruhly,

Thanks! Home and End are exactly the keys I was looking for! I feel sheepish for not trying them earlier, as it seems pretty obvious.

(BTW, I tried PgUp, PgDn, but they still control the attack periscope)

If anyone else finds any other keys or commands that aren't already posted for the camera controls, please feel free to PM me with them.

Happy Hunting!

EP

[Andrea-Jayne]

That's the gfx card I am using. I get the introduction "ubi soft" screen playing through then on the next introduction screen it stays black and locks up. Is this because of my gfx card or am I missing something else? Am patched up to 1.1

Thanks

Andrea-Jayne x

[shawnyp420]

Nope.

I have a X800 GTO and mine runs killah!

[Andrea-Jayne]

Thank you for the quick reply, perhaps I should have been more specific. It's an ATI Radeon x800 Synchmaster. The readme file with the game says that the game does not suport anything below 9000 for the ATI. So I am guessing my card is not up to it but then become confused when you say you have yours working fine! What may I be doing wrong?

Andrea-Jayne x

[TDK1044]

What drivers are you running, Andrea- Jayne? Go to the Ati website and download and install the latest drivers for your card.

[flyingdane]

Thank you for the quick reply, perhaps I should have been more specific. It's an ATI Radeon x800 Synchmaster. The readme file with the game says that the game does not suport anything below 9000 for the ATI. So I am guessing my card is not up to it but then become confused when you say you have yours working fine! What may I be doing wrong?

Andrea-Jayne x

No your card is supported" from the x300 through x850 in the x-series. ;)

[goldorak]

Thank you for the quick reply, perhaps I should have been more specific. It's an ATI Radeon x800 Synchmaster. The readme file with the game says that the game does not suport anything below 9000 for the ATI. So I am guessing my card is not up to it but then become confused when you say you have yours working fine! What may I be doing wrong?

Andrea-Jayne x

Don't base yourself on numbers mate, the 9000 is one of the oldest cards (and performance wise is vastly inferior to the x800/x800gto) whereas the x800 is one of the newer.
So be assured that the x800/x800gto is fully compatible with silent hunter 4.
The problem most probably lies in the driver, have you installed the latest version ?

[Andrea-Jayne]

Hi

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I have been to the ATI site and downloaded what I believe to be the latest drivers (release date March 2008) but still no joy with the game. The ubisoft logo flashes through ok on start up but then when I presume what is the proper intro screen about to play it just freezes at a black screen. Happens every time. Is there a way to skip the introduction on launch?

Andrea-Jayne x

[Gizzmoe]

Is there a way to skip the introduction on launch?

Delete the intro videos, they are in data\movies\intro.

[Andrea-Jayne]

Thank you Gizzmoe and thank you all. I am now at sea!! Just need to chose what colour panties, garter belt and stockings to wear for my first encounter with the enemy!!

Andrea-Jayne x

[jam]

It can take up to 10 minutes on my computer for the "message log" to appear during a mission. The longer the mission, the longer the time. Is there a way around this?

[Gizzmoe]

It can take up to 10 minutes on my computer for the "message log" to appear during a mission. The longer the mission, the longer the time. Is there a way around this? It´s a known bug, the "Less radio messages" mod works around the bug a bit:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108959

[wonderstoat]

Hi

I've been happily playing SH4 on my Asus gaming laptop (Vista, Core Duo 2Ghz, 512 MB Graphics, 2GB RAM etc). This machine is more than enough to play the game so far at native resolution and all the graphics settings up full.

However, when I installed the official patch, and launch the game I get a black screen ... eventually when I lose patience and ALT-TAB out I get a SH4 'not responding'.

Note: I've seen other users on this forum with a smilar problem, but a significant difference is that they can hear the game menu music/sound during the black screen, which has led people to tell them to delete the intro movies (because of some WM codec problem, which makes it work. I have no sound at all, it's almost as if the disc isn't spinning. Could this be a copy protection issue?

I bought the UK retail version, is there a difference in the patches for different regions?

It just seems strange that the game runs so smoothly and perfectly on 1.0 but won't even launch when patched to 1.1.

I've been a SH3 player since it came out, applied every mod going, and really enjoyed GWX. I'd hate to think that I was stuck with a SH4 that will only play stock version.

Any help would be really appreciated. I was just getting the hang of the TDC and learning to 'guess' target speed LOL!

I could play stock, and hope that patch 1.2 is better, but to be honest the quiet voices and other bugs are putting me off.

Any suggestions?

Stoatie

[unruhly]

Did you install any mods between 1.0 and loading the 1.1 patch?

I would first try to uninstall the game completely including My Docs\SHIV folder, reboot, install fresh from the DVD, reboot, install 1.1 patch, reboot.
Test it.

That's a long process I know, but it's worth a try.

[jam]

Thanks for the help.

[Droc]

I apologize for not reading through all the pages, but after years of playing SH3, I found SH4 to be a huge letdown. I hardly call it a sim anymore, as it has been arcaded, but the visuals are far worse then SH3.
It looks terrible, even with all options cranked to the max and resolution at max widescreen resolution.
Its not my system

Asus 680i mobo
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
2GB OCZ 6400 ram
BFG 8800GTS

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the visuals to be extremely poor? or am I missing something here? Seriously, it looks worse then SH3. Sailors are 2D? WTF? Even in the command room, they are 2D. No wake trail from the periscope? eh?

[BlackSpot]

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the visuals to be extremely poor? or am I missing something here? Seriously, it looks worse then SH3. Sailors are 2D? WTF? Even in the command room, they are 2D. No wake trail from the periscope? eh?

2D crew? Poor visuals? I think not. Check to screen shot threads :D

[Droc]

for some reason, after I restarted the game after a crash, it all went to the way it should.

though, game crashes everytime I hit 60m

[Miimike]

I have only been able to finish one mission without CTDing.

At random points, my screen fills with various colored rectangles and then goes blank. Pushing RESET on the computer does nothing - I have to cut the power to the computer and then I can reboot.

I have 'recorded' temps and voltages on MB/CPU and temps on video card - all are fine up to the CTD.

Pent 4 3.0g
1 G RAM
BFG 6800OC

[AVGWarhawk]

for some reason, after I restarted the game after a crash, it all went to the way it should.

though, game crashes everytime I hit 60m

Droc,

I see that the game crew is 2D for you, try a reinstall. 2D I believe relates to pirated games and the protection device on them. Sometimes happens on legit copies. Try the reinstall and see what happens.

[Akinesis]

When I dive the boat there is no stressed-hull whines or creaks, and when I approach crush-depth and the dials shatter, there is no sound of breaking glass or electrics fizzing. All other sound (crew voice, engines, etc) work fine. Any ideas?

[flintlock]

Any ideas? This has more to do with the current sound bugs within SH4 then challenges with your system. Many sounds don't work, some sound snippets longer than 15 secs will play once then not again, etc. The upcoming 1.2 patch will hopefully address many of the sound issues.

[Kataki]

Well, my PC is now older than three years and in SH4-all settings at lowest- I get max. 30FPS. I cannot even go into the commanders room because I get lamely 3FPS there in average.
-> AMD Athlon 2800+ CPU
512MB Ram :dead:
128 MB Graphics Card ATi Radeon 9800 Atlantis Pro
1 WD4000KS HDD (sATA-II, 400GB)
ePox Mainboard 8RDA3+

So I will have (and want) to buy a new system…
Here it is:
Case: Aerocool ExtremEngine 3T with 2 additional 80mm fans
Power Supply: be quiet!Titan BQT E5-700W Straight Power 700Watt
Mainboard: Asus Striker Extreme S775 NF680I-SL
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6600 2400MHz S775 4MB Box – or I’ll wait until the second quarter of the year where Intel wants to lower the prices. Then I’ll buy an E6700 for the price of “my” E6600.
Graphics: 768MB Point of View 8800GTX PCIe Retail or comparable – see at bottom
RAM: Kingston ValueRAM DDR2 2048MB (2X1GB) PC800 CL5
HDD: 2x 400GB Western Digital WD4000KS Caviar 7200rpm sATA II 16MB (Raid 0)
Optical Devices: Samsung DVD sATA device
Sound Card: Trust 5.1 SURROUND SOUND CARD SC-525
Altogether this system makes me cost approx. 1714€ but I think I will have fun with it some longer time as with my old one.

I’m not quite sure when I will buy it, but I have enough time to change something, so: What do you think of the board? It's quite expensive. Do you have another choice for me which supports SLi? It should have the ability to upgrade sth.. E.g. faster RAM.
What do you think of the graphics card? It is officially not supported by SH4 and it is quite expensive, too - is there an comparable alternative? What about the 8800GTS which officialy either is not supported by UBI? I heard that some people have problems with 8800' cards...
Or is the ATi 1950XTX an alternative? Then I anyway had to take another Mainboard which supports Crossfire..
In overall, what do you think of the system? Has someone a comparable system and can tell me his SH4 in-game experience and settings?

Oh and btw... are the be quiet! Power supplys as silent as their name restricts them to be? ;)
Aaaaaand... What does Dual Channel RAM mean? Is it an option which I e.g. can activate in BIOS or is it a feature of some RAM modules? What does this option influence?

Sooo many questions...

Greetings,
Periscope - At every time some feet above the surface. :arrgh!:
I wouldnt be so quick to upgrade your computer for just this game, it seems you and I have the same problem but I have had my game run well (30fps in the command room). Unfortunetly my game has decided to revert to running poorly again after only a day =/ It really makes me mad after enjoying myself last night when it was running perfectly, or at least within what I consider playable.

My computer specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
1.5GB system ram
Nvida geforce 6600GT
DirectX 9.0C
Realtek AC'97 audio

Normally I would think it was my memory/generally crappy computer causing these problems but the fact I did get it to run well last night kinda throws that off.

[What A?]

Got the game today and it looks like this (check pic). I guess I need a new graphic card... No?

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5729/sh4of7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Kant Schwimm]

just checked my dxdiag and found my vista pc is running dx10, should I be using the dx build shipped with sh4 or is dx10 good to go?

I'm getting alot of stuttering in game even though im getting 60fps running maxed.

dual core 6600
GF7950 Gx2
2 Gig ram
Have tried changing the the diff options check boxes to no avail - still stutters.

Was running at x16 AA and have dropped it down to x4 AA but still stutters.
I had no stutters before 1.2 - but i'm sure its my settings and not the new patch, any help would be appreciated - thanks..

[Spaxspore]

just checked my dxdiag and found my vista pc is running dx10, should I be using the dx build shipped with sh4 or is dx10 good to go?

I'm getting alot of stuttering in game even though im getting 60fps running maxed.

dual core 6600
GF7950 Gx2
2 Gig ram
Have tried changing the the diff options check boxes to no avail - still stutters.

Was running at x16 AA and have dropped it down to x4 AA but still stutters.
I had no stutters before 1.2 - but i'm sure its my settings and not the new patch, any help would be appreciated - thanks..

how old is your vid drivers also u can dl the latest direct x 9 off of microsoft

[Kant Schwimm]

just checked my dxdiag and found my vista pc is running dx10, should I be using the dx build shipped with sh4 or is dx10 good to go?

I'm getting alot of stuttering in game even though im getting 60fps running maxed.

dual core 6600
GF7950 Gx2
2 Gig ram
Have tried changing the the diff options check boxes to no avail - still stutters.

Was running at x16 AA and have dropped it down to x4 AA but still stutters.
I had no stutters before 1.2 - but i'm sure its my settings and not the new patch, any help would be appreciated - thanks..

Vid drivers are brand new updated 2 days ago - new vista drivers from nvidia

how old is your vid drivers also u can dl the latest direct x 9 off of microsoft


I'll try the DL of 9, but didnt sh4 have a diff build dx?

[Spaxspore]

doesnt matter, just get the latest off of m$

[TDK1044]

With this feature added with patch 1.2, should I leave my AA and AF settings as 'Application Controlled' in my Nvidia control panel, or force a specific AA and AF setting?

[fausterwwii]

With this feature added with patch 1.2, should I leave my AA and AF settings as 'Application Controlled' in my Nvidia control panel, or force a specific AA and AF setting?
I forced both. 2x AA and 2x (IIRC). Looks absolutely fantastic and I ran oveer 30 FPS in the battle fo Midway. Also forced SLI. Stable as arock.
1680x1050
Specs:
QX6700 Quad-Core
2x 9700 GS in SLI
2Gb OCZ Ram
3.2 proc oc to 3.3
10,000 RPM HD for cache

[Kant Schwimm]

doesnt matter, just get the latest off of m$

Thanks mate will try it now:up:

[mainexpress]

now that the 1.2 patch is released,im starting a new career.My question is when i pick the difficulty settings,i pick normal,i wish in this option you could pick custom setting,because i want to be able to have limited diesel fuel and still be able to have assited targeting with the weapons officer.The settings in the game when you pick a career are[1.easy,[2.normal,[3.hard,and[4.very hard.When you pick HARD mode you get limited fuel but then you have manual targeting,im not ready for manual yet,im pretty much still a noob at it LOL...I want to have limited fuel and still get assisted targeting is there a way to change something?

[mainexpress]

nevermind just figured it out in the gameplay settings.cfg

[jdkbph]

This is kind of bizarre... I've never seen anything like it before. My in game frame rates are fluctuating wildly between 40-something fps and a single digit fps, so fast I can't even read the frame rate counter. The only reason I know it's dropping to single digits is because I can see the "FPS" text moving left and right as the number changes from a 2 place to 1 place digit.

Now understand it's not the "slowness" of a low frame rate that's bothering me here... I can compensate for that with graphics settings or just live with it as the case may be. But the zooming up and down, cycling from fast to slow maybe 10 or 20 times per second, is causing the image to flicker, the mouse to lag horribly, and missed mouse clicks even in the options interface.

I've experimented with the graphics options and no specific setting seems to cause or affect it. It jumps up and down even on the lowest graphics settings, but of course the "range" is such that I don't notice any ill effects. It's only when I load it up to the point where you would expect the frame rate to dip significantly that the trouble starts.

Played many games, but like I said up there, I've never seen this before.

Any ideas or suggestions appreciated.

XP Pro SP2
P4 3.0
4GB RAM
nV 6800 GT
Latest drivers for everything
Yadda yadda yadda...

PS: I'm playing with the 1.2 patch, but it was happening with the earlier versions as well.


JD

[Dustyboats]

I have installed and uninstalled three times tonight, after having put patch 1.2 on. Kept all previous mods...... well away! However am getting this error dialog :-

Silent Hunter 4.exe-Application Error.
The instruction at "0x015303bc" referenced memory at "0x00000268". The memory could not be "read"
Click OK to cancel
Click CANCEL to debug.

Memory 3.0 MB
Graphics Card. Sapphire x1950 Pro 512Mb
Running a Dell 19" Monitor at 1024x768 Colour 16Bit.
HD Free Space 86% of 377GB
Processor. Intel(R) Core (TM) 2CPU. 6400@2.13GHz Current Speed 2130MHz
Sound Card...Realtek...No problems
All Drivers and Softwares are up to date. HP Desktop Media Center m7630 uk.

Would some shine an informative light my way please as to how to cure the problem....Thanks in anticipation....Dusty.

[Vorkapitan]

Hi All,

I'm getting oval gauges insted of round using different resolutions.

Any ideas? Fairly current Nvidia drivers. :damn:

[Go4It]

I have a ASUS A8V w/939 3700+ AMD w/6800GT NO/OC with 2 segate 80 gig HD in raid an I play @ 1280x1024 w/4x AA 8x anisotropic filtering an I only get a little lag on explotions. I've had similar lag/shutter when my vid card fan was pluged with hair balls :) Check ur video temps, if high +70* C ,mine runs 64* C under load, clean it up. The fan covers is only held on by several screws.


Also, try reseating ur video card, take it out an put it back in making sure it's seated good. Make sure ur 12v power connectors pluged it tight. OR Is ur power supply good enough? A Good brand name power supply @ 450w should do it!

Are you running the game at the same resolution ur desk top is set at? Some system don't let it if u run ur desktop @ 1024x768 an you run game @ 1280X1024 or other variations!

[Prof]

I had the same problem with v1.2 when I first enabled FSAA (8xS). Reducing the FSAA to 4x solved the problem.

System specs:
Intel C2D E6600
2GB DDR2 RAM @ 800MHz
512MB GeForce 7900GTO
Creative Audigy4

I've not done much testing since v1.2 so there may be a combination of in-game/driver settings which allows higher FSAA without the weird FPS fluctuations. I'm quite happy with 4x FSAA :)
If you say it was happening in v1.1 I have no idea :(

[Gizzmoe]

Latest drivers for everything

Try an older video card driver and install the latest DirectX9 version (April 2007):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=D2E2CAE1-6AEF-4A40-BD00-F0FB2A71E99F&displaylang=en

[THE_MASK]

This may help some people with XP and dual cores or maybe not . Heres the link

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

[Dustyboats]

I have installed and uninstalled three times tonight, after having put patch 1.2 on. Kept all previous mods...... well away! However am getting this error dialog :-

Silent Hunter 4.exe-Application Error.
The instruction at "0x015303bc" referenced memory at "0x00000268". The memory could not be "read"
Click OK to cancel
Click CANCEL to debug.

Memory 3.0 MB
Graphics Card. Sapphire x1950 Pro 512Mb
Running a Dell 19" Monitor at 1024x768 Colour 16Bit.
HD Free Space 86% of 377GB
Processor. Intel(R) Core (TM) 2CPU. 6400@2.13GHz Current Speed 2130MHz
Sound Card...Realtek...No problems
All Drivers and Softwares are up to date. HP Desktop Media Center m7630 uk.

Would some shine an informative light my way please as to how to cure the problem....Thanks in anticipation....Dusty.

All solved now, THANK YOU.... It was mods still on P1.1 that caused it...I feel it essential to clear/save all previous mods as has been suggested. JSGME ones are easily solved...its the others to be wary of that have been put on in P1.1.

[MarkShot]

I just installed SH3 and SH4 the other day on a new system. I have NVidia 8800GTX card. I see that I have FSAA settings from 2-16 with 16X and 16Q. Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between X and Q settings? Why would I chose one over the other?

Also, does anyone know a good primer on the Web which discusses the various choices in the NVidia control panel and when I might choose one setting or the other?

Thanks.

[clayp]

I just installed SH3 and SH4 the other day on a new system. I have NVidia 8800GTX card. I see that I have FSAA settings from 2-16 with 16X and 16Q. Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between X and Q settings? Why would I chose one over the other?

Also, does anyone know a good primer on the Web which discusses the various choices in the NVidia control panel and when I might choose one setting or the other?

Thanks.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?..........:D

[Seadogs]

With this feature added with patch 1.2, should I leave my AA and AF settings as 'Application Controlled' in my Nvidia control panel, or force a specific AA and AF setting?

I've heard this question alot lately.

Since there is no option for AA in game to get it it must be forced in the driver.

And as a general rule, it's usually best to set as application controlled if the game has ingame options. Use the driver if:

1. Theres no ingame option. ala SH4.

2. The ingame option is to wimpy for your taste.

:up:

[Stoli]

1. Intro video is all messed up, multicolored swirls. ATI 1800GTO 256MB Vid. card with latest drivers. (Actual game plays fine).

2. Cant double click and look through the mounted binoculars on the bridge.


TY!

[Kant Schwimm]

First of all i'll say thanks to Shad my graphix anomalies have all gone by uninstalling sh4 (saves aswell) and reinstalling 1.2 WITHOUT installing 1.1 :up: Hope this helps others who havnt tried this option.

Problem now is i'm trying to edit my main.cfg to change the dev debug settings to No, but when i click save it says i cant save to that path or file name, it will only let me save as a txt file or all files, i'm sure before i used to click save and that was it, surely if i save it as txt file it will no longer be a cfg file - or am wrong - or will saving as all files do the trick :hmm: am running vista 32bit :damn: any1 have any ideas on this?

[RickC Sniper]

I had this problem with version 1.1 and yesterday with 1.2 all was fine running the game for about 2 hrs but today this graphics anomoly is back.

I get green and blue..mostly greenish smearing in the black area around my periscope, and these hazy foggy looking areas in the sky at night. Daytime, bright areas, etc all looks fine.
The smearing won't show up in a screenie but maybe you can see the hazey areas in this screenie. They move around like the clouds do but mostly vertically.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/th_SH4Img18-4-2007_14.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/SH4Img18-4-2007_14.jpg)

Larger view here. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/sh43.jpg
I have an ATI 1950xtx 512 mb card running cat 7.3 drivers...no overclocking... and whether it is idling or working hard it is always around 74-76 degrees C. I know thats a little warm but I thought it might be heat related so I cold booted my pc and jumped into the game quick and when at 60 C the smearing is there even at that temp.

I have volumetric fog off and EE turned on. Any ideas?

[shad43]

This is kind of bizarre... I've never seen anything like it before. My in game frame rates are fluctuating wildly between 40-something fps and a single digit fps, so fast I can't even read the frame rate counter. The only reason I know it's dropping to single digits is because I can see the "FPS" text moving left and right as the number changes from a 2 place to 1 place digit.

Now understand it's not the "slowness" of a low frame rate that's bothering me here... I can compensate for that with graphics settings or just live with it as the case may be. But the zooming up and down, cycling from fast to slow maybe 10 or 20 times per second, is causing the image to flicker, the mouse to lag horribly, and missed mouse clicks even in the options interface.

I've experimented with the graphics options and no specific setting seems to cause or affect it. It jumps up and down even on the lowest graphics settings, but of course the "range" is such that I don't notice any ill effects. It's only when I load it up to the point where you would expect the frame rate to dip significantly that the trouble starts.

Played many games, but like I said up there, I've never seen this before.

Any ideas or suggestions appreciated.

XP Pro SP2
P4 3.0
4GB RAM
nV 6800 GT
Latest drivers for everything
Yadda yadda yadda...

PS: I'm playing with the 1.2 patch, but it was happening with the earlier versions as well.


JD

I had the same problem last night...seems to stem from the AA & AF settings for
my vc drivers, switched back to app controlled and it stopped :down:
Of course, for me anyway it makes the patch useless other than changing
the version number on my load screen :shifty:
I suppose I could try different drivers ect but quite frankly Im sick of messing
with it...game looks good enough as is :D

[Seadogs]

I had this problem with version 1.1 and yesterday with 1.2 all was fine running the game for about 2 hrs but today this graphics anomoly is back.

I get green and blue..mostly greenish smearing in the black area around my periscope, and these hazy foggy looking areas in the sky at night. Daytime, bright areas, etc all looks fine.
The smearing won't show up in a screenie but maybe you can see the hazey areas in this screenie. They move around like the clouds do but mostly vertically.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/th_SH4Img18-4-2007_14.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/RickC/SH4Img18-4-2007_14.jpg)

I have an ATI 1950xtx 512 mb card running cat 7.3 drivers...no overclocking... and whether it is idling or working hard it is always around 74-76 degrees C. I know thats a little warm but I thought it might be heat related so I cold booted my pc and jumped into the game quick and when at 60 C the smearing is there even at that temp.

I have volumetric fog off and EE turned on. Any ideas?

Happens only in SH4?

Another thought is it's never a bad Idea to open up your case and blow out the heat sinks and fans on your CPU, Vid card etc. with caned air every few months. Just powerdown and give it some time before powering back up in case of condesation.

EDIT: I guess heats not your problem, It's been a long day at first I only saw the bottom hand portion of your post:oops:

[THE_MASK]

I want to run SH4 on a notebook . It has 2 x 512 meg so dimm ddr2 667mhz 5300 ram . To get 2 gigs of ram do i have to replace with 2 x 1 gig or can i add more ram some other way . What is a sony memory stick 2gig pro duo etc . cheers sober .

[Weigh-Man]

This may help some people with XP and dual cores or maybe not . Heres the link

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

I tried this on a P4 3.2HT and it just kept causing the PC to reboot:down:

[PepsiCan]

I read a lot about frame rates, but how do you measure them? Is there an option to enable in the videocard? Or do you use a utility?

Btw, if you cannot save your cfg file after making a change, then you probably have a file permission issue. Check whether the file is read-only (check the file properties).

[RickC Sniper]

control+F8 ingame for framerates

[PepsiCan]

So, you do not require any seperate software? You can get the Frame rate straight from SH4 itself by pressing CTRL + F8? Sorry, unable to try right now as I am at work.

[Antrodemus]

You can get the Frame rate straight from SH4 itself by pressing CTRL + F8?

Yes.

[Hazelwood]

I was wondering if anyone in here had purchased the deluxe, limited edition and was having a problem with the documentary DVD. I have 3 DVD players and each of them complains the Region Code is wrong. I am in Region 1 and when the DVD properties are opened in something like DVDdecrypter it shows the disk as "region free" (all regions listed) without RCE protection and no encryption. It plays just fine on a computer. I am experimenting with some other software now and have been able to get the US Navy section fully copied onto something that works but not the menu (so far). This is nominally acceptable but it's annoying one has to go through this and produce a couple of Frisbees along the way. If anyone else needs help with this, let me know and there are some things I can recommend if you want to try the copying (for own use) route. Or better yet, if you know what it takes to get the original to play I would appreciate knowing.There's a warning somewhere on the disk that "a signal has been recorded to prevent illegal copying". It would seem "legal viewing" is also prevented. Well, I support copyright but if you can't play something you paid for I have no problem making a workable copy for myself. An attempt to contact "Periscopefilm" who seem to specialize in this sort of material was unsuccessful owing to the rotten performance of their website - pages not found etc. Will try another day, perhaps.regards,Cpt. J Hazelwood / SS Haddock

[mainexpress]

question? im on my second patrol out of pearl and my mission is to drop 19 tons of supplies off in the philippines,well i got out into open waters and i realized i had no torpedoes,is this normal? since im carrying supplies or do i have to load my own torps in back at port?

[Antrodemus]

do i have to load my own torps in back at port?

Yes, I'm afraid you do... it's another major oversight on the part of the game's design. Not the fact that you have to do it manually, but that there isn't even a reminder or loadscreen before you depart.

:down:

[mainexpress]

ok thanks m8, yeah a reminder would be nice.

[Dustyboats]

This may help some people with XP and dual cores or maybe not . Heres the link

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

May seem a bit late in the day...but thank you for this tip....made a lot of GOOD difference. Cheers....Dusty

[thehiredgun]

Is there a post where i can find out what the performance of say a mk 10 is as opposed to a different mk is ?

[kevtherev]

I have noticed that during the game when the system is 'updating' from hard disc the sound, and music if being played, seem to stutter until the update is finished. This is no great big deal, just a little annoying, but is there any way that I can fix it.
XP Home V2002 SP2
AMD Athlon XP2800+ 2.09GHz
2,00 GB RAM
Graphic Card:- Radeon X1300 PRO 256MB (Latest Drivers)
Sound Card:- Gamesurround Muse 5.1 DVD (Latest drivers)
Hard Drive:- WDC WD1600JB-00VA0
Motherboard:- ASUS A7N8X

[Fisherman]

Problem now is i'm trying to edit my main.cfg to change the dev debug settings to No, but when i click save it says i cant save to that path or file name, it will only let me save as a txt file or all files, i'm sure before i used to click save and that was it, surely if i save it as txt file it will no longer be a cfg file - or am wrong - or will saving as all files do the trick :hmm: am running vista 32bit :damn: any1 have any ideas on this?

Try the following:
Start - Programs - Accessories - right click on notepad - choose run as administrator. From notepad use file - open and navigate to the file you want to edit. Should then allow you to save changes ok.

[SnowCajun]

I have the 1.2 patch, have just started seriously getting into the career patrol aspect of the game, but when I return to base the popup offers me, "refit, & postpone" on the docking menue, but "end patrol" is greyed out and not selectable. All my objectives it says have been completed, yet I can't seem to exit the patrol for anything. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,

PS: Found out the problem, will leave the question incase someone else runs into it. I wasn't going back to Pearl Harbor, I was trying to end the game at Midway, apparently you can only refit there and not end your patrol.

I did find one disappointing aspect of the game though, I got lucky and sank a 28,000 tons carrier of the Shokaku class, plus two heavy cruisers, one at over 15,000 tons and the other at over 7,000 tons, and also a seaplane tender of over 9,000 tons. The awards were kinds cheap I felt, usually targets of that quality and class would bring a Navy Cross .. I just barely got anything for that.. Oh well, more to discover..

Thx guys!

[FoddaUK]

OK I've searched but found nowt...

I've found three places on my PC where main.cfg file is located. Which one is used by the game please? I'd like to tune up the TC timings. Dropping to 8x on enemy contact isn't slow enough for me. ;)

[Antrodemus]

It's in your My Documents folder, under \SH4\data\cfg\ folder.

Look in the [TIME COMPRESSION] section of the main.cfg file, and you'll see "enemy detected", with a value of "8". Change this to whatever value suits you. Real-time has a value of 1.

[FoddaUK]

Thanks Ant. I know what I want to do, just didn't know which of the three versions to edit.

:up:

[Antrodemus]

Sorry Fodda, the info I gave you wasn't accurate... the first post I made was in reference to the game's default settings file. I've amended my post to show the correct location. Sorry for the confusion. :oops:

[FoddaUK]

No probs mate. Glad I came back for a second look before editting the wrong one and wondering why it didn't work.

:up: :up:

Two this time, one for helping and one for coming back to correct the post. CHEEEERS!

[Antrodemus]

No probs mate... :up: ...have one back. :D

[kjuice]

i have a R 1600 pro 512 and just over a gig of ram. On the option during set up it ask which i want to use, vid card ram or cpu ram. Which is better for me to use?

[Quillan]

Always use video card ram if you can.

[oscar19681]

I dit the test for sh4 and passed on all but the system ram .
here is a what i got .

cpu
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
cpu speed
1.66 GHz Performance Rated at 2.00 GHz
System RAM
Minimum: 1 GB You Have: 511.5 MB , here is where i failed .

Operating System
Minimum: Windows XP / Vista (Only) You Have: Microsoft Windows XP Professional (Build 2600)
Video Card Minimum: 128 MB RAM DirectX 9-compliant video card capable of rendering Pixel Shader 2.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 6200+ / ATI Radeon 9600+) You Have: RADEON 9800 SERIES (RADEON 9800 SE AGP (0x4148))
Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video RAM: Required - 128 MB , You have - 256.0 MBhttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yeshttp://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/green_check_small_min.gif</IMG>Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 2.0


The rest i passed for only the system ram was not enough . Can someone tell me how the game will run if i DO install the game sometime in the future ?
Basicly the requirements are not that much different from sh3 and that works just fine om my system exept for the lon loading times when i start up the game and start op patrolls.

[Gizzmoe]

Can someone tell me how the game will run if i DO install the game sometime in the future ?

It basically won´t run at all. You need at least 1GB RAM, preferably 1.5GB or more, and your video card is very low-end.

[coyoteman62]

For career mode why can't I port at any allied base? Do I have to refit at sub ports only? Because in the manual it states that I can refuel at any allied port, but I have to get ammo and torps at sub port.

I would also like to port and promote my units but I can only port before starting a mission. So I can only upgrade my sub before starting a mission?

I am playing at hard difficulty and inputting data into the TDC and I cannot hit a target for the life of me unless its a shot under 1000 yards. Is this realistic? Is the impact and magnetic influence reversed? Plus it seems I always have to switch the speeds, depths, contact influence, and arrays for every torpedo.

Why can't I use my electric engines on the surface when I run out of gas? Because I can use them in conjunction with my diesel engines at surface.

Is Ubi coming out with a 3rd patch? Boy I hope so. I've been looking for answers for days.

[Leod]

Ok, can anyone help me? I have a Radeon ATI 9550/x1050 series video card. 2 gigs of Ram. The game runs but is very juddery (enough to turn me off playing it). Can anyone tell me how I can make it work better using the catalyst - if this is possible. Or do I need a new Graphics card? I know absolutely nothing about this subject.

[FAdmiral]

Try updated drivers as the first step, they are free.
If you have no luck with those, you will probable need an
upgrade in your graphics card....

JIM

[FAdmiral]

I really can't believe all the posting here at Subsim about how their SH4 game doesn't work right!
I have run many tests on home-made missions to test some of their claims of lackluster performance
of the AI. I have yet to duplicate any of their problems. My SH4 game runs fine and AI is right up
to par operating the way it should. The more I think about it, the more I believe it is not the game files
at fault here but the install wizard that installs the game files. From what happened to me and the way I
corrected it would seem to bear that out. Only Jester and 1 other person I know of did the reinstall and did it the way
I suggested. After the uninstall, search the registry and delete those SH4 files. Then delete the PREFETCH
files in Windows (I think those are for the install wizard cause I got an error with the wizard the first time I tried
to reinstall after the register delete). I have a great SH4 game now expecially with the added ram memory....

JIM

[Leod]

Thanks for the reply. I've updated drivers and its still laggy. is there any tinkering I can do with Catalyst?

[arvekj]

Hi,

Have anyone of you experienced problems with SH4 and Vista?? After I installed SH4 in Vista (Ultimate), the game causes the computer to freeze... And that it veeeeery annoying!!! Belive me!!! :)

Would be nice to know if someone else is having the same problem, or if it just me::))

My computer pass the min specs btw...

-later sailors-

[lobomarinho]

In my previous patrol I was stationed in Pearl H. I have been given command of a new sub and deployed to Brisbane for a new mission. I have completed all objectives in this new mission and returned to Brisbane. On approaching port the grey screen shows "end patrol " shadow in grey and I can only chhose refit or postponed., which means I can not end my patrol. I tried also at Pearl but the same happened so I can not end this patrol. Can any one help me?

[Chili]

Can someone please let me know how to get the picture up that shows your torps as they run their course.
Thanks,
Chili

[Stealth Hunter]

Quick question: I haven't bought SH4 yet because I'm about ready to install a new graphics card, it's an Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT. I'm curious about how the game will run (looking for specific details such as fps, lag levels, etc.). Currently, my system has these specs:

Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition
2048 MB DDR2
250 GB SATA II
AMD 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
2.4 GHz

Happy Hunting!

-Stealth Hunter

[mainexpress]

hi my new patrol is to pick-up navy downed pilots, my question is once you spot a pilot in the water,how do you pick them up?

[Morts]

will i be able to run SH4 propperly with these specs

Processor: dual 2.40 GHz
Ram: 4GB
Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800GTS 640 Mb PCI-E (directX 10 ready)

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Jaber]

I apologize in advance if this has already been asked a dozen times, but I did first search around before finally breaking down to ask you all.

I am unable to get the free camera to work. I click on to activate it, it clicks, but nothing. Also, how do you get the event camera to work and the camera to follow the torp around? I have tried numerous things be come up empty. Hopefully just a GCE on my part.

Related is the Radar. I am unable to turn it on (yes on surface) as the box remains grayed out.

Last quick item - I saw a video where the control buttons turn green. Is this only in certain country releases? (US version here) My buttons stays yellow but does 'push down' a bit.

I have been trying to figure this out for about two weeks now and have no more ideas. I have done a complete clean install twice now and figure it must be me.

Thanks for any help!

Jaber

Side note - even after doing a clean install, I noticed that my user settings (graphics/realism) are back to what I had previously selected before the removal. How do you do a true 'clean' uninstall?

[Lord Axel]

For green buttons follow this link (it's a mod):
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108359

[Jaber]

Thanks! Much better.

Jaber

[kozowh]

Here's my hardware:

BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A02
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6800
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll


I was running SH4 1.2 and most everything seemed fine. Then I installed the sound pack mod. It would stall out during loading (progress bar just stopped). I unstalled and reinstalled ver 1.0 2x, added in the 1.2 patch but w/o any mods.

Now, frame rate varies widely. On screens where not much is happening it's often down to single digits; doesn't make sense. My mouse seems like it is being dragged through molasses. You need to be a contortionist to make it stop on the buttons. The game is almost unplayable because you can't react with any speed or reliability.

Help!! Any information/suggestions welcomed. Also, can someone explain what FSAA is? I can't find a description except that it has to do with graphics.

Thanks.

[MaxmaraGR]

Hi to all!

I am frustrated since I have a major problem:
-My sub goes straight to bottom, even though there is no damage on the damage screen.

For example, I press P for periscope depth and then it crashes all the way to the bottom. Surfacing or Emergency have little effect.

Why???

:damn: :arrgh!: :damn:

[Siegfried von Funk]

Hi to all!

I am frustrated since I have a major problem:
-My sub goes straight to bottom, even though there is no damage on the damage screen.

For example, I press P for periscope depth and then it crashes all the way to the bottom. Surfacing or Emergency have little effect.

Why???

:damn: :arrgh!: :damn:

Some people at Wolves at War have had this problem and it was determined to be caused by a weather mod. Have you installed a weather mod recently? If so, uninstall it and see what happens...

[U-Bones]

Hi to all!

I am frustrated since I have a major problem:
-My sub goes straight to bottom, even though there is no damage on the damage screen.

For example, I press P for periscope depth and then it crashes all the way to the bottom. Surfacing or Emergency have little effect.

Why???

:damn: :arrgh!: :damn:
Some people at Wolves at War have had this problem and it was determined to be caused by a weather mod. Have you installed a weather mod recently? If so, uninstall it and see what happens...

No this is a stock SH4 problem.

[MaxmaraGR]

Hi to all!

I am frustrated since I have a major problem:
-My sub goes straight to bottom, even though there is no damage on the damage screen.
For example, I press P for periscope depth and then it crashes all the way to the bottom. Surfacing or Emergency have little effect.

Why???

Some people at Wolves at War have had this problem and it was determined to be caused by a weather mod. Have you installed a weather mod recently? If so, uninstall it and see what happens...

No this is a stock SH4 problem.

I have downloaded the latest patches...

[Wijbrandus]

I am unable to change my gameplay preferences.

Primarily, I want to turn on stabilization, so my periscope and TBT don't bounce with the waves. I uncheck the "No stabilization" preference, and hit apply. When I go back into my game, it rechecks itself.

What do I need to do to get gameplay preferences to stick?

[Seeweed]

Hi all, just picked up SH4 and im having an issue with the zoom function not working.....any ideas?

I am assuming i can zoom with the mouse wheel like in SH3 yes/no ?

Just echoing this as the first thing I'm trying to fix. In camera view(SHIII) the mouse wheel would let you zoom up to, past and, with the help of the other mouse buttons, around your sub. You could also zoom and follow your shots right to target. So, what am I missing here? It says there is zoom on the mouse wheel for camera views. Where is it? I also had the radar screen start up and run for me once but now, after rebooting my machine (somebodies' advice) clicking switches or buttons and I get nothing. Also, clicking on the various dials and controls in the control room gives me nothing either. In SHIII this all worked great. Don't tell me they've changed all that? It's gotta be mouse related. When I first installed the game and subsequent patches, I had a wireless mouse with the USB plugin in the back of the computer and it was barely working. So I switched it out for a corded and problem solved. Be aware that this is a brand new bleeding edge system. 2.4G Pentium DUO on an Asus P5B with 2G of ram and a 7950 OC Vid Card PCIE.

[switch.dota]

I'm havign a rather annoying technical issue here.

When in Career mode, some game the Nav Map is all wrong. Instead of the normal geographical layout I see a really wierd one: land alternates with water in stripes of 2-3 cm on my screen (regardless of resolution) with some land/water patches where land is supposed to be. It's really mixed up and totally unplayable.

This happens randomly and doesn't go away for the duration of the mission. The only way I've found to fix it was to exit to windows and re-run the game, hoping I won't get this graphical glitch again.

I'm running SH4 1.2 on an ATH XP 1,7+, 768 RAM, Aopen gForce 6600 w/ 256RAM. I know it's sub-par but it's running quite smooth until I decide to go over 512x time compression. Anyhow I'm guessing this is a graphical error so I've tried updating my drivers - to no effect.

Can anyone help me here?

[CaptainCox]

I'm havign a rather annoying technical issue here.

When in Career mode, some game the Nav Map is all wrong. Instead of the normal geographical layout I see a really wierd one: land alternates with water in stripes of 2-3 cm on my screen (regardless of resolution) with some land/water patches where land is supposed to be. It's really mixed up and totally unplayable.

This happens randomly and doesn't go away for the duration of the mission. The only way I've found to fix it was to exit to windows and re-run the game, hoping I won't get this graphical glitch again.

I'm running SH4 1.2 on an ATH XP 1,7+, 768 RAM, Aopen gForce 6600 w/ 256RAM. I know it's sub-par but it's running quite smooth until I decide to go over 512x time compression. Anyhow I'm guessing this is a graphical error so I've tried updating my drivers - to no effect.

Can anyone help me here?
I wonder...:hmm: could this have something to do with it ? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112377
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112508

[switch.dota]

Yeah, many thanks. I guess I'll have to keep the DVD handy when I want to actaully play this game. Kinda sucks since I have one DVD drive and like 5-6 games I want to play. If all had similar issues I'd end up killing my DVDs in under three months. Not really nice considering I pay quite a hefty amount of cash for each game.

[kylania]

I think I scared my PC into working. When I first picked up SH4 it ran like absolute crap on my PC (P4 slow bus speed, 2GB DDR, x850Pro). So this last week we've been playing SH4 lan games at work and I decided to upgrade me PC and ordered a new mb/ram/proc (CoreDuo 2.13, corsair xms, pci-e x3 board from hell) to go with my new (free!) x1950xt and thought I'd try SH4 out at home again while waiting.

Well, low quality ran smooth as silk. Odd I thought. So I bumped it to Medium, and still smooth as silk. Haven't tried high yet.

Now, I swear that trying it on medium before ran like crap but I think since my PC knows it's about to be retired it'll perform better!

[plaice]

can anyone tell me how the above can be seen in the career part of game. It works in the training torpeodo game setting but not in the regular game. Am I missing something. Any help would be appreciated

[Salty Longshanks]

Hey guys! If it's the same as in SH3, than this is a brain dead question because I've forgot, but if it's different in SH4, I can't figure it out. I used to know how to lock the camera in the external view so it would follow the subs movement without having to use the arrow keys, and for the life of me, I can't remember what the hell the key was. Any help would be great! Thanks in advance. :oops:

[pilotknight1980]

Installed sthe game. launched it. Can hear the Ubi theme music for just a few sconds, then it stops. Meanwhile, all the screen in displaying is a static....After the music stops. the puter totally locks up. Have to pull the power to reboot...anyone have any suggestions?

[STEED]

OK Guys someone tell me what Mk's are steam and electrical and what are the straight, pattern and acoustics torpedo's

[qiqiangzhu]

I had an old DELL OptiPlex GX270 computer which only has PCI card slot, I can only find this one kind of PCI (not PCI-E) card from eVGA product line, that can fit into this old machine (due to low profile, half size height).

http://www.evga.com/products/

(The build in Intel 865G is not supporting any game)

My question is, will SH4 can be at least show up some game progress or totally not work at all with Geforce FX 5200?

I know only the following are officially supported by SH4.

GeForce™ 6200/6600/6800/7800

But still, just want to know...

[Nightmare]

If it's not supported and is an older card chances are it probably won't work. Even if you could get the game to run, it's going to run so poorly that it would be unplayable on that system (even at low graphic settings).

[GTHammer]

can anyone tell me how the above can be seen in the career part of game. It works in the training torpeodo game setting but not in the regular game. Am I missing something. Any help would be appreciated


Are you talking about on the attack map? If so its a bug and this link covers it....
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=114652

If not then the only other thing I can think of is that you may need/want to have the event cam enabled under the realism settings, this causes a little vid window to pop up and show you your torps as they are fired and when they hit...

[GTHammer]

OK Guys someone tell me what Mk's are steam and electrical and what are the straight, pattern and acoustics torpedo's

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_WWII.htm This link has all kinds of good stuff about WWII torps...

Acoustic torp link....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_torpedo

Probably find any other answers here....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedos

Pretty interesting stuff....

[GTHammer]

Hi to all!

I am frustrated since I have a major problem:
-My sub goes straight to bottom, even though there is no damage on the damage screen.

For example, I press P for periscope depth and then it crashes all the way to the bottom. Surfacing or Emergency have little effect.

Why???

:damn: :arrgh!: :damn:

I had this happen to me once I'd taken so much damage during a career patrol. The damage control screen showed everything operational and such but as soon as I tried to submerge even the smallest bit I'd encounter major damage and sink. Apparently there is some bug/issue with damage causing your crush depth to raise up b/c of loss of hull integrity due to damage. Redwine posted some good stuff about this issue if this is indeed a similar problem to yours. If you just sink and don't get immediate damage then I have no idea whats up...

[STEED]

OK Guys someone tell me what Mk's are steam and electrical and what are the straight, pattern and acoustics torpedo's

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_WWII.htm This link has all kinds of good stuff about WWII torps...

Acoustic torp link....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_torpedo

Probably find any other answers here....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedos

Pretty interesting stuff....

I still need to know what these types do in SH4, the first link helped a bit on the range and speed along with the power supple and warhead on the MK13, 14, 16, 18 and 27, but still missing some info on the others. Or so I still need to know what type were they, straight, pattern and acoustics torpedo's as the handbook is no help what so ever.

Cheers for helping out with some of the info. :up:

[mcnivenr]

I cant seem to get the game to run properly, my mouse cursor has a delay every time i move it and the graphics are less than satisfactory espcially when i go to the bridge screen it makes the game unplayable and the sound is choppy or completely un recognizable at times, I have better than minimum req for the game I'm running a pent 4 3ghz, 1.7 gigs of ram, a v-tech x1550 with 256 mgs ddr2, audiogly se sound card, any suggestions I'm getting really bummed
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/user_online.gif

[PULSEOX]

Hi;
I've been wanting to try SH4 since it came out, as I've had all the previous versions. My computer is a Dell dimension 3000, which I've upgraded to 2G RAM and a 256 MB ATI x1300 (which is the best video card this machine will handle).

My question is: according to the Min. Requirements the Radeon X1300 is listed as a supported card. But when I do the "Will it run?" thing-it always fails-it says video card not supported.

Which do I believe, before I put down $50?
I wish they had put out a "demo"-then I would know for sure.

[jcm4101]

I'm havign a rather annoying technical issue here.

When in Career mode, some game the Nav Map is all wrong. Instead of the normal geographical layout I see a really wierd one: land alternates with water in stripes of 2-3 cm on my screen (regardless of resolution) with some land/water patches where land is supposed to be. It's really mixed up and totally unplayable.

This happens randomly and doesn't go away for the duration of the mission. The only way I've found to fix it was to exit to windows and re-run the game, hoping I won't get this graphical glitch again.

I'm running SH4 1.2 on an ATH XP 1,7+, 768 RAM, Aopen gForce 6600 w/ 256RAM. I know it's sub-par but it's running quite smooth until I decide to go over 512x time compression. Anyhow I'm guessing this is a graphical error so I've tried updating my drivers - to no effect.

Can anyone help me here?
I wonder...:hmm: could this have something to do with it ? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112377
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=112508


Just an idea, but I used to get this consistantly when I used the "No DVD" patch.

I re-installed without that patch, updated to 1.2 and haven't seen that issue again (2 months now).
Methinx it's the "No DVD" patch.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave :up:

[Alky]

I think these software companies need to somehow include a "no cd" patch with their game instead of us having to beat & bang on our disks pulling them in & out of the drives! I'm sure with all their smarts they can figure out a way to register the game so we don't need to have the cd/dvd in the drive :yep:

[punkmaster98]

none of the mods i installed work. what could be wrong.

[Trash Can Man]

whenever I create a server, it constantly crashes right in the beginning of the game. Any thoughts on why this happens? :-?

TCM

[Stealth Hunter]

EDIT: Nevermind, installed the 1.1 patch and it works fine now.

[Iti]

Hi all, I saw a couple of pictures in the "Screenshots & Videos" section showing a personalized submarine with a logo on the lateral part of it. It could be a stupid question but it's more than a week that I'm looking for the answer. I discovered that there were out mods for Silent Hunter 4 just two weeks ago... I'm happy to be here.

Thanks in advance.
Iti :lost:

[1480]

I just installed my new 7900GS. NIGHT & DAY, compared to what I was running. Gave the game a rest. OMG, I cranked everything up and as they say on the eastern seaboard propagande network, Boo-yah! Got the card at tigerdirect.com for under 150.00. Very pleased.:smug:

[simonb1612]

I am sure that the answer to this question has already been posted somewhere but i cannot find it. Can someone please tell me where I can find the max operational depths of the various boats are? IS there a chart anywhere? I would hate to kill a good crew for the sake of experimentation :D
Many thanks and happy hunting.

Never mind, a little more digging and I found what I was looking for. Here is the link for this info incase anyone else was curious...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=116844&page=2

[Wim Libaers]

Hi, I ordered the game recently (waited for patch 1.3), and got it yesterday. There are a few problems:

Turning on environmental effects or volumetric fog (the two options that make the water transparent) produces white dots on submerged edges of the submarine. Not sure if this is a game or a video card problem (8800 GTS, which is still quite new and may also have bugs). EDIT: solved with 162.18 driver. EDIT2: no, mistake, not solved, still happens in shallow water.

Then, some questions about how to play the game. In the manual, in the section about "sending data to the TDC", it mentions: "Note: You may reset the TDC and data by pressing the X icon on the notepad." Which notepad would that be? I know speed can be set to zero manually using the attack data tool, but I don't find this notepad. (terrible manual by the way, some illustrations have completely unreadable text).

Then, the navigation map. The manual states:MAP NOTES
• With this tool you can place marks on the map. Each mark will have a generic
name when placed (Mark 1, Mark 2, etc).
• You can modify this name (18 characters max.) and attach a note (54 characters,
centred, max. 18 characters wide).
• You can delete marks.
Placing marks is easy enough, but the ways to modify them seem to be less obvious, and the manual is not explicit about how it's done. It would be very convenient to be able to add, for example, time information to each mark when playing at high realism levels.

[eyelids]

Hi to everyone from me.

I wanted to ask if there was a way to switch submarines between missions in career mode? I started career with Tambor class sub, but after first mission I was assigned to Purpoise class sub. :down: Any way I could get my Tambor back?

[DESERTSTORM]

Is a GF 8600GTS 512 MB (Dual Core 2.66 MHZ, 1 GB Ram) good enough for fast play SH4 ?

[davelacey]

Hi all.
This is just a heads-up to anyone who may be experiencing "Silent Hunter 4 has encountered an error and needs to close" messages, along with a very polite invitation to inform m/soft about the problem.

I started having this problem after upgrading my ATI drivers to the lastest available (6.14.10.1005).
Anyone having the same problems, I suggest DOWNgrading to the previous ATI stable release (6.11.100.1301)

Doing this has solved my own problem. Just goes to prove that newest isn't necessarily best.

Pentium 4 3.6 dual core
4 gig Corsair DDR2-666
Radeon X1900
Creative SB X-Fi
A dog called Sacha
An elk called Henry.

[mrlucky35]

In Career Mode, I keep getting sent back to he SAME, thing again, in the second mission, Insert Spy, Have done it and now being sent back to do i again?? Is there any way to fix this?? Thanks

[punkmaster98]

when i load shIV i get a a message saying file not found: Data/menu/gui/layout/hud_adversarialmode.tga

[rabidjade]

SH4 Mission question

I've been playing this game for about 3 weeks now and have a problem. Every mission I go on that has to do with patrolling a certain area I can never get it to end. I make it back to base and everything but the mission status remains incomplete. I've tried staying in the same area for days and sinking several ships and shooting down aircraft until I run out of ammo and torpedoes and still nothing. What is the trigger needed to let the game show the mission sucessfull so I can head back to base without taking the hit on renown?

I know SH3 it's a 24hr in the same grid but the marker for SH4 is sometimes in a different part of the grid and I didn't know if they still went by grids for mission successful triggers.

[John Channing]

Stay within 50 nm of either side of the marker for 48 hours. Do not go outside this area for 48 hours. Once the marker turns grey, radio in a Patrol report.

JCC

[Misfit138]

A question to Nvidia users

Is it possible to run Silent Hunter 4 with 4x4 or 8xS AA modes without getting a CTD after the "please wait" message?

Using 8800GTS 320Mb and yeah I know. These Supersampling AA modes aren't currently supported by Nvidia but lower modes work without any bigger problems. Those just aren't enought to kill the shimmering

EDIT: Oops, almost forgot to mention! Using the latest nHancer and Forceware drivers

[Crusader]

Hi Everyone,
I'm new to the forums & reletively new to SH4, and totally new to manual targeting. I've downloaded & watched the tutorials found on here and still can't grasp it :cry: .

Anyhow, my main reason for this post is...
I've installed patch 1.3, and also installed the bearings mod for the attack map (as found by looking thru the forum ), But now I dont have a Torpedo track, so I have no idea where my fish are going to go. Anyone know how I can get it back ?
I have NOT installed anything else (mods or patches) so I can only assume its gone missing due to one of the 2 above being installed.

Any help in getting my track back would be muchly appreciated.

[rabidjade]

I am running out of the Manila base. While out on patrol. it was taken over and no longer shows up as a naval base. I tried going to midway to dock and end my mission and it won't give me the option. My mission is complete, how can I dock at another base?

[LukeFF]

I am running out of the Manila base. While out on patrol. it was taken over and no longer shows up as a naval base. I tried going to midway to dock and end my mission and it won't give me the option. My mission is complete, how can I dock at another base?

Midway is not a valid base at which you can dock. Check your radio log to see where you've been told to report.

[momo55]

I am running out of the Manila base. While out on patrol. it was taken over and no longer shows up as a naval base. I tried going to midway to dock and end my mission and it won't give me the option. My mission is complete, how can I dock at another base?
Midway is not a valid base at which you can dock. Check your radio log to see where you've been told to report.

Try the base on JAVA (Surabaya) or Freemantle in Australia . That's where i whas send in my first(Java) an second career (Aus).

[rabidjade]

Midway is not a valid base at which you can dock. Check your radio log to see where you've been told to report.

My log says nothing about docking. After my mission was complete I sent in my report more than once with no directions. I'll try heading to another base.

[rodan54]

Alright I just recently upgraded to a EVGA 8800GTS 640mb card, but unfortunately my sun has now become a rather unimpressive orange disc. So what settings/drivers need fiddling with to get that fiery glow back?

[Leod]

What AGP graphics card can I get to make this game play well? Or do I need PCI XPress? Can anyone answer this please I am desperate.

Many thanks

[AVGWarhawk]

What AGP graphics card can I get to make this game play well? Or do I need PCI XPress? Can anyone answer this please I am desperate.

Many thanks

Apparently both will run the game just fine. Personally I use the AGP set up as this is what I'm used to having. Whatever set up you choose just make sure it is a decent higher end card. Start by looking at the box the game came in for the supported cards.

[punkmaster98]

my game keeps crashing. what do you think is causing it

[punkmaster98]

my game crashes when a contact is found.

[barndog]

I just installed it and it causes the game to crash! I run a BFG7900GTX w/256 MEG video ram. It was running ok fine under driver 162.22 but after I dutifully installed the "latest driver" cause gameshadow told me to, SH4 crashed and burned right in the middle of three different campaign episodes.

Uninstall it and reinstall 162 fixed the problem

[Krauter]

Hey all.. got a question.. how do I actually create a mission in the mision editor.. Sounds dumb but then again im not the smartest skipper out on the water..

Help would be greatly appreciated

Krauter

[teddy996]

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone can help me out. I bought the game some time ago, and have not been able to enjoy it due to crashes. They only seem to occur when viewing anything under the water (surfacing or diving while looking through the periscope, using periscope in rough seas, etc). Additionally, I have never been able to use the external camera to follow a torpedo, inspect damage to a ship, or even view a ship under the waterline in the museum mode without having the game sieze up on me. Running windows vista on a new dual core system, 2gb ram, with nvidia 7950 card using latest drivers, and running game version 1.3. I've tried switching the display options around, but can't find a combination that seems to work. I've skimmed a few forums to see if anyone else is having this problem, but there seems to be no posts on this one. I'm not very computer savvy, so there's a possibility I've been making things worse with my tinkering. Any help would be appreciated. Though I am getting extremely good at killing destroyers with the deck gun and chasing salvos to avoid damage, my fear of submersing the sub due to game crashes kind of negates the point of a sub sim.

[mainexpress]

question? how do you get a completion on the orange star for a photo-recon patrol?

[Leod]

Finaly ordered my new PC and I'm hoping I will finaly be able to run this game. Can anyone tell me how SH4 runs on these specs:

Intel Quad Q6600 2.4 Processor
2 Gig Ram
320MB nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS Video card.
Windows Vista

Will I be able to play this game? Sorry I don't knopw anything about computers.

[The General]

Finaly ordered my new PC and I'm hoping I will finaly be able to run this game. Can anyone tell me how SH4 runs on these specs:

Intel Quad Q6600 2.4 Processor
2 Gig Ram
320MB nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS Video card.
Windows Vista

Will I be able to play this game? Sorry I don't knopw anything about computers.I can answer the question, but only if you vote on this Poll:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=669177#post669177

[Leod]

I voted ... Well?

[The General]

SH4 will work like a charm with your machine. I'd wait 'til Patch 1.4 comes out before really starting a career (3 weeks away). 1.4 will improve the game quite a bit. I strongly recommend you give Leovampire's 'Reflections on the Water' Mod a try too as it vastly improves the visuals in SH4. Happy sailing mate :up:.

[panzer 49th]

Hi guys I have a question.

Would a GEforce X1900 run SH4?

My system specs are:

Processer: Intel(R) Pentium 4 2.80 Ghz

RAM: 512 MB RAM (am going to buy more)

HardDrive: 80 GIG Hardrive

SoundCard: Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device.

Current Graphics Card: Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller (Am going to replace with a GEForce X1900)

Need a DVD drive

Moniter: DELL E153FPT



What I hope to have after upgrading is: ATI GEforce X1900

2 gigs RAM

DVD drive

Tell me if that sounds like it will run SH4 good.

[Fincuan]

Hi guys I have a question.

Would a GEforce X1900 run SH4?

...

What I hope to have after upgrading is: ATI GEforce X1900

Tell me if that sounds like it will run SH4 good.

Ati GEForce X1900, wtf?!:rotfl:

Sorry about that, now the more serious side: Assuming you mean Ati RADEON X1900, then no, it probably won't run SH4 very well with the CPU you have. I'd say single digit FPS at the lowest detail level.

[panzer 49th]

Did I say ATI? I meant nvidia sorry but i dont know which company made what all I know is I found it at walmart and it looks good.


And it said geforce X1900 but i dont know what that is.


Any suggestions on what might run it good on my CPU?

[Fincuan]

Let's make this one clear: X1900 is part of Ati's Radeon series, while Geforce is Nvidia's product. Is it Ati Radeon X1900 to which you're upgrading?

[panzer 49th]

Ok I went back to walmart and it is some kind of Visiontek Geforce 8500 gtx

With a little square on the bottom saying Nvidia

that is exactly what was on the box.

[Weather-guesser]

So...I got rid of my old PC with the 1300X ATI mess and got a new rig that more than handels SH4. I had the usual issues that I read up on dealing with UAC on VISTA and thought I had it figured out.

After installing the game into the the usual root folder and the new folder outside of Program files (thinking it was a UAC issue), I get an error when I try to start the game: "This application has failed to start because d3dx9_32.dll was not found. Does this have to do with Direct X 9? I didnt install it thinking I didnt need it since I have Direct X 10. Any help out there would be appreciated before I mess up the new rig.....Core 2 Duo e4500 with 3G of RAM and NVIDIA 8300 and VISTA :-?

[afik_t_king]

Hello everybody.
I've just started play SH4 a few days ago, and it's really a great game!

But I have a problem.
When I'm at the radar station, I can't turn on the radar. It's happened in the torpedo training mission too.
I was at the surface, and the ON/OFF option wasn't available.

Please help me, thank you.

[Ridgeback]

Hello everybody.
I've just started play SH4 a few days ago, and it's really a great game!

But I have a problem.
When I'm at the radar station, I can't turn on the radar. It's happened in the torpedo training mission too.
I was at the surface, and the ON/OFF option wasn't available.

Please help me, thank you.
You need surface search radar (SJ radar) installed on your boat for it work. The SJ won't be available until late 1942 or thereabouts. When it's available you "buy" the radar from reknown you have hopefully earned in previous successful patrols.

Even if you don't have SJ radar installed, the radar station is still viewable but nothing will work.

Air search radar (SD radar) works differently. It is generally available from the start of a career and bought out of you starting reknown. There is no radar scope or radar station for the SD radar. You will just get a "radar contact" message in game if the radar operator detects an aircraft.

Hope this helps

[afik_t_king]

Ok, thank you very much.
I saw pictures from SH3 for example that the radar is on, and searching...It can't be in a quick mission for example?

[Leigh]

Hi sorry but I need to add to the graphic card question. I have a Gainward FX5600 nvidia card which I know is too slow. It is a few years old now and has the agp (I think thats what its called) connection.

Can anyone recommend a replacement? Everything else is above the minimum requirements

Thanks in advance

Leigh

[John Channing]

I am using an EVGA 7800GS AGP card with 256 mb ram and it handles things very well (except fog, which I have turned off).

JCC

[Leigh]

Thanks, I'll look into those. Although I am toying with the idea of upgrading my computer completely. Since last night it started crashing whenever I press some of the keys, like everytime I open the tubes it throws me out of the game with an option of sending an error report. Funny that it was ok to begin with, apart from the slow frame rate.:hmm:

Thanks,
Leigh

[clayp]

Finaly ordered my new PC and I'm hoping I will finaly be able to run this game. Can anyone tell me how SH4 runs on these specs:

Intel Quad Q6600 2.4 Processor
2 Gig Ram
320MB nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS Video card.
Windows Vista

Will I be able to play this game? Sorry I don't knopw anything about computers.


DONT GET VISTA,too many problems...

[Leigh]

I decided my computer was just getting too tired and couldn't handle much now a days.
I went for:
Intel Quad Q6600 2.4 Processor
3 Gig Ram
512MB nVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT Video card.
Windows Vista

Can't believe the difference it makes and now playing with all graphic details up to full, averaging between 16-20 fps in the more demanding screens. :D

But curious why you say there are too many problems with vista. Is this in general or just with SH4? Now wondering if I should have stuck with xp :hmm:

[Doolittle81]

VISTA has worked fine with me...and with SH4.

[Leigh]

Yep, this is why I'm asking. It seems to be working fine for me and with SH4 on it.

[felsig49]

Does any one know in which directory / Folder SH4 keeps the saved game Campaigns in? Before in stall mod 1.4 I want to back up my campaign as it has been very successful and I would like to not restart it.

Thanks.

[punkmaster98]

While i was in port in patch 1.3, i disabled all mods and installed patch 1.4. i reactivated all my mods and continued to my second patrol. i have been in the patrol area for more than a week and it hasn't changed color

[AVGWarhawk]

Usually saved games after a new patch is installed do not work or do not work as they are supposed to. Always best to start a new career.

[punkmaster98]

i was on patrol when i spotted a destroyer. i went under and prepared for an attack but the destroyer never came up on the hydrophone. i looked through the periscope and locked onto it. i set the torp depth to the minimum and fired several torps. they all went straight under the hull WTF???

[thumper]

Here is my situation..I have been ordered to OSAKA harbor to photo recon the area, i am right outside of the docks on the floor pretending to be a rock. Their are two A.S.W. ships in the area and i don't know how to use the camera..Now be advised these people are really pissed off seeing as i sank one of their SHOKAKU class carriers as i was making my approach ,now,..HOW DO I TAKE PICTURES????:nope:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Here is my situation..I have been ordered to OSAKA harbor to photo recon the area, i am right outside of the docks on the floor pretending to be a rock. Their are two A.S.W. ships in the area and i don't know how to use the camera..Now be advised these people are really pissed off seeing as i sank one of their SHOKAKU class carriers as i was making my approach ,now,..HOW DO I TAKE PICTURES????:nope:
Have a look here:http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111509

Old thread on this, some stuff in there as well: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=123383&highlight=photo+recon+mission


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[bybyx]

Does anyone know a good tutorial for convoy attacks?

[WolfgangKurtz]

Although i am delighted with the new patch i have a small problem with repeat dates. i start a mission on 30th January 1945 and complete several parts succesfully however when i return to home port (Brisbane) the date reads around march 14th. Fine no problem i then refit and get ready for my next mission and find my start date is 30th january 1945. I have tried this several times without being able to get it to change leaving date to march
Any ideas as this will make the war go on for ever stuck in a time loop. i was looking forward to ending the war and restarting again but i will be an old old seadog at this rate

[Hunter]

I can't re-instalall and play SHIV any more. Please, if anybody knows the solution for this problem, advise me. Yesturday, I got a virus that made by system to reboot each time when WinXP started. When ADSL cable was removed and PC stayed off-line OS started normaly, but any antivirus ware could delite spywarte since it has copied itself each time it was attempted to be removed. Thus I decided to reinstall my system. Since all my games are installed on separate logic disk I didn't remove them before, since they got used to survive reload of the OS. Unfortunately after WinXP was reinstalled I didn't manage to launch SH4 any more as it said that file d3dx9_32.dll is lost. Fresh install of dx9c didn't help. Then, I've deleted SH4 manually, Unfortunately, when I put SH4 DVD into mu Asus combo drive it can't be read any more. It is OK with the disk at other PC. It seems that the reason is that the game wasn't removed from my HD finally. When I try to launch 1.4 patch to check it says that it is already there.

[Doolittle81]

I can't re-instalall and play SHIV any more. Please, if anybody knows the solution for this problem, advise me. ....
It is OK with the disk at other PC. It seems that the reason is that the game wasn't removed from my HD finally. When I try to launch 1.4 patch to check it says that it is already there.
Don't worry. It is almost 99.9% certainly a registry problem...which is why it differs between computers (different registries).
Go to this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=126544, read my advice there, with pics. Basically you'll delete all your SH4 folders/files manually, then carefully use Regedit to delete certain Registry keys/files. Then you'll be able to re-install SH4 1.0 from your original disc, install the 1.4 patch, and you'll be off and running. Good Luck.

[Hunter]

Hope it will help, thaks a lot. The only thing that warries my is that I've got fresh install of OS and have formated the hard before. I have used ccleaner too. Thus, old regestries just shouldn't be there any more, or should they? And why my SH4 couldn't be read any more? May be I have to change hard drive used to home the OS instead of installing OS into the same location?

[Doolittle81]

Hope it will help, thaks a lot. The only thing that warries my is that I've got fresh install of OS and have formated the hard before. I have used ccleaner too. Thus, old regestries just shouldn't be there any more, or should they? And why my SH4 couldn't be read any more? May be I have to change hard drive used to home the OS instead of installing OS into the same location?

Not clear what you are saying about OS.

I'd say just take a look into your registry and see what is there....then proceed accordingly.

[Hunter]

Not clear what you are saying about OS.
I have reinstalled it without removing SH4 before, thus no entries shoul have left there.

[Hunter]

I've got a message from another user, who has the same problems after having WinXP reinstalled.

[Doolittle81]

Not clear what you are saying about OS.
I have reinstalled it without removing SH4 before, thus no entries shoul have left there.

Well, I'll leave you to work through your problem, as I can't offer anymore advice. I do note that you keep saying that there logically "should" be no registry entries. You are probably and logically right, but have you gone in and looked to see what actually is in your registry.

[Hunter]

Sure, I used Regcleaner to view and clean the registry, and there was noting that would mention SH4. Further more I've got a massage from Ruct who tried to install SH4 on fresh reinstaled WinXP and he has the same problems.

[Seraphiel]

I have a strange pink flickering when I use the navigation map:

(~250KB)
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh401en7.jpg

Dunno if it is because of AA (x4), AF (x16), high resolution (2560 * 1600), SLI (AFR2), drivers (FW 169.21 beta), or something completely different. From what I have read, it could be anyone of those or more in combination.

This is the only place I have seen any errors so far, and the pink stuff goes away if I move the map or zoom in/out, but it can return as fast as it went away.

I would like to know, if anyone have experienced the same problem, and might have a solution for it?

[ReallyDedPoet]

I have a strange pink flickering when I use the navigation map:

(~250KB)
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh401en7.jpg

Dunno if it is because of AA (x4), AF (x16), high resolution (2560 * 1600), SLI (AFR2), drivers (FW 169.21 beta), or something completely different. From what I have read, it could be anyone of those or more in combination.

This is the only place I have seen any errors so far, and the pink stuff goes away if I move the map or zoom in/out, but it can return as fast as it went away.

I would like to know, if anyone have experienced the same problem, and might have a solution for it?
Have not see this before, however I run the game at standard resolution, no AA or AF. Maybe somebody else can add more to this :yep:

By the way, welcome to SUBSIM :up:


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[HEMISENT]

Just want to say thanks to doolittle and swdw from another post dealing with the issue of editing the registry. I uninstalled SH4 months ago out of frustration and finally thought I'd try it again.

Every time I inserted the disk to autorun all the options were lit except "install". Nearly identical from a complaint found on the previous page of this post I think. After screwing around for awhile I found that SH4 still existed somewhere in my computer. In one of the error reports there was a referance to "module 1" and "_27.exe" in ADD/REMOVE programs there was SH4 still listed at 23.02mb in size, but it would not remove.

After checking these threads advice gained from both doolittle and swdw got me back up and running in about 15 minutes.

Thanks again guys.

[Seraphiel]

Have not see this before, however I run the game at standard resolution, no AA or AF. Maybe somebody else can add more to this :yep:

By the way, welcome to SUBSIM :up:


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Thanks for the welcome :)

I have pretty much found out what is the cause of the problem, but not how to solve it: SLI. There are no profiles for this game in Nvidia's profiles, and the SH3 profile will not work effectively with SLI in this game. So I have made a custom profile, and I guess this is where the problems are (the men on the observation deck are also slightly transparent).

Still it wouldn't really matter if no solution is to be found, as this game is really astonishing. I have never ever played a submarine game/sim before this one, and I purchased it second hand. I gave it a try, and I haven't played anything else the last 3/4 days. Still a total newbie, but I was thrilled when I sunk the Yamamoto, even though the realism couldn't have been lower. Still getting to learn it all.

I am also considering the prequels to SH4:WotP. Never would have thought an uboat sim could be like this.

If anyone should know of, or have a working SLI profile, then please do tell. My own is set at AFR(0x0430001). If not, it is fine and the errors aren't really disruptive of gameplay.

Thanks all, for a great site/forum that is highly recommended anywhere I have been :up:

[Doolittle81]

I have a single graphics card setup, as you can see in my Rig Specs below...but I designed the Rig to allow several upgrades when necessary: 2Gb RAM to 4GB, Dual-Core CPU to Quad-Core, and single 8800GTX to SLI with two 8800GTX's.

I've been anticipating a point in time when some new Game/Sim of great interest to me should appear and the respective Forums ring out with great praise for the benefits of SLI. I don't believe I've seen any extensive comments on SLI, if at all, on these SH4 forums. With my single card, SH4 looks fantastic at the relatively high resolution at which I run it (1920X1200 or 1920X1080), and I actually can't imagine how it could be better.

In that regard, I'll be very interested in your reports of SH4 SLI performance/appearance. Can you not "shut off" SLI and choose to run with just a single card? If so, can you make a report on how the two options compare? Thanks.



ASUS P5N32-E SLI, 680i
Dual core E6700 Cpu (Mobo upgradeable to Quad-Core)
2GB OCZ PC2 8800 (1100Mhz) RAM (Mobo upgradeable to 4Gb)
BFG 8800GTX Graphics card (Mobo upgradable to two 8800 cards in SLI configuration...or 1 or 2 newer cards if necessary)
Audigy2 ZS
4 Seagate 400GB hard drives in a 0+1 RAID array
Plextor PX-800A
Samsung 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 native
Windows VISTA 32bit

[Doolittle81]

P.S.
I just this moment received the NVidia E-Mail newsletter with this announcement.

Bring your competition to its knees with NVIDIA SLI gear – the powerful combination of an SLI-Ready NVIDIA nForce® motherboard and multiple GeForce® graphics cards. Now with support for three GeForce 8800 GTX or Ultra GPUs operating in 3-way SLI, you can crank up the image quality settings, maximize your resolution, and tilt the scales in your favor with up to a 2.8X performance hike over a single-card rig.

Users can harness the power of GeForce 8800 Series GPUs working in parallel to deliver 384 stream processors, 110+ Gigatexel per second texture fillrate, and over 2 GB of graphics memory for no-compromise gaming performance. 3-way SLI technology means you no longer have to dial back the image quality settings on the newest PC games enabling 60 frames per second at resolutions as high as 2560x1600 and with 8x antialiasing.


WOW!!! .....So much for my Plan to go to a 2-card SLI configuration.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Thanks for the welcome :)



See you got a couple of responses, good luck with it :up:


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[Wilcke]

...and you will need that new 1000w power supply after all.:up:

[Seraphiel]

See you got a couple of responses, good luck with it :up:

Thanks alot!


In that regard, I'll be very interested in your reports of SH4 SLI performance/appearance. Can you not "shut off" SLI and choose to run with just a single card? If so, can you make a report on how the two options compare? Thanks.

I'll be happy, if I can be of some help to you. Please do consider, that this game isn't officially supported by SLI, and my current custom profile is just used because it gave some positive results. There is a possibility that a better profil can be made, but I haven't found it yet.

The simple answer with SH4 WotP: SLI will and will not give you a positive performance increase, depending upon situation and settings.

The complicated one:

My experience with SLI is overall far better than with this game, and you should reconsider if SLI is something for you, if this one game in particular is the reason to consider SLI.

I have seen differences with SLI in this game, but the best so far is only a postive ~45%, and the worst is a negative ~25%. V-Sync (in game setting) also appears to have both a negative / postive effect depending upon the situation.

I can't really (by visual count of samples on edges) see any difference between 4 * MSAA and 16 * MSAA. CS / RGMS based AA appears to be non-working as well. SLI AA at * 32 does appear to be partially working, as that is the only setting where AA is improved beyond MSAA * 4. Funny thing with SLIAA is, that if V-Sync is selected in-game, then it will give almost twice the framerate, than if V-Sync is off, which should never be the case aside from this one.

Using the basic settings (MSAA*4 / AF*16, everything else maxed, V-Sync off), then SLI will give a postive result, but it appears to be effective only when heavy workload is present. Still the performance is all over the place and very random. This to me points towars a non-effective SLI profile, and I can't recommend SLI for SH4 WotP.

I believe, you would be far better off saving the money, and getting the D9E GPU from nVIDIA, that should be released Q1 2008. However, if there are any other games you would like more performance within, then you could consider SLI, but this game is not the one for SLI.

My own specs:
MB: EVGA 680i SLI
CPU: Intel QX6700
GPU: 2 * XFX 8800 Ultra XXX M685 (685 / 1692 / 2300 Mhz)
APU: X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro 64 MB
RAM: 4 * 1024 MB DDR2 PC2 6400 CL5.5.5 T2 1.8V
HDD: WD Raptor 36 GB, WD RaptorX 150 GB
LCD: Dell 3007WFP-HC
PSU: Enermax Galaxy 1000W
OS: XP Pro SP2

[XLegion]

Ok, got this one for Christmas.

Installation went fine, although I noticed that nowhere did it ask for the registration key. Yes it is a store bought legal issue in the box with the registration key. I then Re-booted, started up the game. Nothing happened. Absolutely nothing. Clicked on the editor.exe nothing happened.

Ok, onto the UBISOFT site and downloaded the latest patch. 1.04 I think it was. Installed it. Re-booted the game. Started the game - nothing happened. Absolutely nothing. Tried the editor. Nothing.

Went back to the site to have IT check out my system. It met all of the minimum requirements but did not meet all of the maximum requirements.

OK, un-installed the whole thing and repeated the whole install procedure. Started the game - nothing.

Went back to the UBISOFT site for answers and I don't see a single thing on the problem I'm having. Where do I go from here?

I have Silent Hunter III and it installed and works perfectly.

Any help appreciated. I waited for nearly a year before even considering this game since I knew it was buggy as the devil. But a year later????

[ReallyDedPoet]

Ok, got this one for Christmas.

Installation went fine, although I noticed that nowhere did it ask for the registration key. Yes it is a store bought legal issue in the box with the registration key. I then Re-booted, started up the game. Nothing happened. Absolutely nothing. Clicked on the editor.exe nothing happened.

Ok, onto the UBISOFT site and downloaded the latest patch. 1.04 I think it was. Installed it. Re-booted the game. Started the game - nothing happened. Absolutely nothing. Tried the editor. Nothing.

Went back to the site to have IT check out my system. It met all of the minimum requirements but did not meet all of the maximum requirements.

OK, un-installed the whole thing and repeated the whole install procedure. Started the game - nothing.

Went back to the UBISOFT site for answers and I don't see a single thing on the problem I'm having. Where do I go from here?

I have Silent Hunter III and it installed and works perfectly.

Any help appreciated. I waited for nearly a year before even considering this game since I knew it was buggy as the devil. But a year later????
Be good idea to list your specs, to be honest with you alot of the bugs have been fixed or modded out, the game now is a very enjoyable one.


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[ironkross]

I just got my new system going. I'm still using my old XP 32 bit OS. Would buying a 64bit system make a big difference running SHIV? I'm certain I will eventually go with Vista for the DX10 capability, but since none of my games now are DX10 I wanted to wait for Vista SP1. I could go with XP 64bit if it would be worth the expense/and or trouble.

[sotilas87]

Hi.... My SH4 got problemo. When I start SH4 it show's all the videos and then come that loadin screen... well after that it's all black and it just stop working anymore... can someone help me with my proplemo

[Doolittle81]

Tell us more about your situation. Have you just installed SH4 out of the Box? Have you patched it at all? Have you Mod'ed it at all? Has it loaded/run at all before and suddenly you have this Black screen effect? Etc.

[Fincuan]

Hi.... My SH4 got problemo. When I start SH4 it show's all the videos and then come that loadin screen... well after that it's all black and it just stop working anymore... can someone help me with my proplemo

Have you installed any codec packs(such as K-Lite) or ffdshow?

[sotilas87]

yes i have... K-lite. Do you think that is reason for this?