HELP! SH3-GWX3 Saves CTD.

BigWalleye · 07-13-13, 11:31 AM

I am playing SH3 with GWX v3.0, and using SH3 Commander. Recently, I have begun experiencing an intermittent problem: after a certain point in a career patrol, any time I try to save the game, reloading results in a CTD. I have tried to isolate the conditions under which this will occur. The only consistent factor is that it usually happens after I have had an encounter with the enemy. It doesn’t have to be warships, it doesn’t have to involve combat – I can run away. But, from some point on in a career patrol, I can not save the game and successfully reload the save.

I am running the following mod load:

GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V7
GWX - 20km Atmosphere (Unofficial Mod)
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX Turm Lights fix
TMTv2+ThomsensShips v4.4 for GWX3+Xtra ships
LifeBoats&Debris_v4
OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3
Pascal_Port_People
Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3
Waterstream+Exhaust Combi - Single Exhaust for TypeII
Sober's Darker Smoke
Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
Scirè-Tikigod- repeated order
TorpedoTubesFfireFinal vGW
Spirit of machines - BW
EAX_Sound_Sim_SH3
Supplement to V16B1 - GWX
Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B1 - GWX
O2-Gauges v2
Capt. Teach's SH3 Color Icons for GWX 3.0 (Standard)
NeuUZO&PeriV.2
SRM01 - Seabed Repair Mod
SRM02 - Option for GWX Enhanced Damage Effects
Urfischs_ModStrike_Beta1 - BW
Carotio_SH3_ClothesHatsFacesSkilledCrew
FM_NewInterior v2.1D
BritishAsdicMkIFinal
SHIII Internal Life Mod v1.2
SH-5 Water for SH-3 20 Km V84
sobers waves mod V12 27032013
Realistic contacts with Sub icons
1.4b Assisted Plotting Mod
No continuous 'Ship spotted' V1.2 for GWX3
widescreen_GWX3.0 BW Mod 1.1

I have all h.sie’s and Stiebler’s patches active except Wolfpack Less Contact Reports. I have tried saving more than 50km from land and more than 50km from any contact. Still get CTDs when reloading saves (NOT all the time!).

My machine is an AlienWare M11X, i7@1.70GHz, 8GB, Win7 Home Premium 64bit, nVidia GeForce 540M. I run SH5 on this rig with reduced graphics fidelity. For SH3, I presently have all GPU settings strapped down to app-controlled.

I have just completed a complete, ground-up re-install, in which I restored everything from the original downloaded files. (Stock SH3 is DVD with v1.4.) Anticipated that would fix the problem. Just got a CTD after sinking a small freighter with the deck gun in the Thames estuary on September 3, 1939 and fleeing a patrol craft. I submerged, let the PC go by, then resurfaced and ran out into the North Sea. Saved - reload was a CTD.

Has anybody had this problem? I’ve Googled everything I could think of and not seen a similar problem reported. At this point, I am at a loss. I would hate to have to play every patrol through without stopping!

I would sure appreciate any help!

brett25 · 07-13-13, 11:53 AM

try taking this out:

LifeBoats&Debris_v4

and retest (go back to previous good save, resink a ship and then see if it works)

also make sure you have the 4GB patch applied.

BigWalleye · 07-13-13, 01:40 PM

Thank you, brett25! I'll give it a try without Lifeboats&Debris-v4!

I am using the 4GB patch through h.sie's patcher. Is that equivalent to the external 4gbpatch.exe? Or should I use the separate mod? I am concerned about applying the .exe fix over the top of h.sie's patch.

UPDATE: First, external 4gb fix is not compatible with h.sie's patcher. Wach makes sh3.exe incompatible with the other.

Second, took out Lifeboats&Debris_v4. No joy. Still gives CTDs after saves.

Myxale · 07-13-13, 04:02 PM

A bit curious that CTD's-

I mean your Load-order is not that big nor complex so it should be something obvious.

You said it started recently? What was the last change you did before things became prone to CTD? And what are your SH3 Commander settings?

My suggestion is, disable this mod and try again.

TMTv2+ThomsensShips v4.4 for GWX3+Xtra ships

Report back.

BigWalleye · 07-13-13, 04:23 PM

Thanks, Myxale. Last additions were GWX 20Km Atmosphere and sh5 Water for SH3 29Km. But I have removed both with no apparent success.

I'm thinking of stripping her down to bare metal and putting in one mod at a time. That will take some time, tho....

irish1958 · 07-13-13, 04:36 PM

Almost every time I have had CTD it has been traced to extra ships in some mod. I suggest you deactivate all mods which add extra ships and see what happens
If this doesn't help I suspect you will have to hunt mod by mod until you had isolated the problem or problems.

07-13-13, 11:31 AM	#1
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	HELP! SH3-GWX3 Saves CTD. I am playing SH3 with GWX v3.0, and using SH3 Commander. Recently, I have begun experiencing an intermittent problem: after a certain point in a career patrol, any time I try to save the game, reloading results in a CTD. I have tried to isolate the conditions under which this will occur. The only consistent factor is that it usually happens after I have had an encounter with the enemy. It doesn’t have to be warships, it doesn’t have to involve combat – I can run away. But, from some point on in a career patrol, I can not save the game and successfully reload the save. I am running the following mod load: GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V7 GWX - 20km Atmosphere (Unofficial Mod) GWX - Alternative Flotillas GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects GWX - No Medals on Crew GWX Turm Lights fix TMTv2+ThomsensShips v4.4 for GWX3+Xtra ships LifeBoats&Debris_v4 OLC's Modified Searchlight Beams for GWX3 Pascal_Port_People Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3 Waterstream+Exhaust Combi - Single Exhaust for TypeII Sober's Darker Smoke Torpedo damage Final ver2.0 Scirè-Tikigod- repeated order TorpedoTubesFfireFinal vGW Spirit of machines - BW EAX_Sound_Sim_SH3 Supplement to V16B1 - GWX Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B1 - GWX O2-Gauges v2 Capt. Teach's SH3 Color Icons for GWX 3.0 (Standard) NeuUZO&PeriV.2 SRM01 - Seabed Repair Mod SRM02 - Option for GWX Enhanced Damage Effects Urfischs_ModStrike_Beta1 - BW Carotio_SH3_ClothesHatsFacesSkilledCrew FM_NewInterior v2.1D BritishAsdicMkIFinal SHIII Internal Life Mod v1.2 SH-5 Water for SH-3 20 Km V84 sobers waves mod V12 27032013 Realistic contacts with Sub icons 1.4b Assisted Plotting Mod No continuous 'Ship spotted' V1.2 for GWX3 widescreen_GWX3.0 BW Mod 1.1 I have all h.sie’s and Stiebler’s patches active except Wolfpack Less Contact Reports. I have tried saving more than 50km from land and more than 50km from any contact. Still get CTDs when reloading saves (NOT all the time!). My machine is an AlienWare M11X, i7@1.70GHz, 8GB, Win7 Home Premium 64bit, nVidia GeForce 540M. I run SH5 on this rig with reduced graphics fidelity. For SH3, I presently have all GPU settings strapped down to app-controlled. I have just completed a complete, ground-up re-install, in which I restored everything from the original downloaded files. (Stock SH3 is DVD with v1.4.) Anticipated that would fix the problem. Just got a CTD after sinking a small freighter with the deck gun in the Thames estuary on September 3, 1939 and fleeing a patrol craft. I submerged, let the PC go by, then resurfaced and ran out into the North Sea. Saved - reload was a CTD. Has anybody had this problem? I’ve Googled everything I could think of and not seen a similar problem reported. At this point, I am at a loss. I would hate to have to play every patrol through without stopping! I would sure appreciate any help!

07-13-13, 11:53 AM	#2
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	try taking this out: LifeBoats&Debris_v4 and retest (go back to previous good save, resink a ship and then see if it works) also make sure you have the 4GB patch applied. __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

07-13-13, 01:40 PM	#3
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Thank you, brett25! I'll give it a try without Lifeboats&Debris-v4! I am using the 4GB patch through h.sie's patcher. Is that equivalent to the external 4gbpatch.exe? Or should I use the separate mod? I am concerned about applying the .exe fix over the top of h.sie's patch. UPDATE: First, external 4gb fix is not compatible with h.sie's patcher. Wach makes sh3.exe incompatible with the other. Second, took out Lifeboats&Debris_v4. No joy. Still gives CTDs after saves. Last edited by BigWalleye; 07-13-13 at 03:29 PM.

07-13-13, 04:02 PM	#4
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	A bit curious that CTD's- I mean your Load-order is not that big nor complex so it should be something obvious. You said it started recently? What was the last change you did before things became prone to CTD? And what are your SH3 Commander settings? My suggestion is, disable this mod and try again. TMTv2+ThomsensShips v4.4 for GWX3+Xtra ships Report back. __________________ SH3+GWX SH5+WoS Still Sailing....still Deep

07-13-13, 04:36 PM	#6
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	Almost every time I have had CTD it has been traced to extra ships in some mod. I suggest you deactivate all mods which add extra ships and see what happens If this doesn't help I suspect you will have to hunt mod by mod until you had isolated the problem or problems. __________________ Irish1958

07-13-13, 04:23 PM	#5
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Myxale. Last additions were GWX 20Km Atmosphere and sh5 Water for SH3 29Km. But I have removed both with no apparent success. I'm thinking of stripping her down to bare metal and putting in one mod at a time. That will take some time, tho....