German U-boat may be at bottom of Labrador river

RoyalHighlander · 07-26-12, 09:34 AM

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...overy-725.html

Divers believe they have located WWII submarine 100 kilometres from ocean...
An important piece of history from the Second World War may be sitting in a river in Labrador.
Searchers believe they've found a German U-boat buried in the sand on the bottom of the Churchill River. The discovery has yet to be authenticated.
Two years ago, searchers scoured the bottom of the Churchill River with side-scanning sonar. They were looking for three men lost over Muskrat Falls.
When they reviewed the footage from that search, they made an unexpected discovery.
"We were looking for something completely different, not a submarine, not a U-boat — I mean, no one would ever believe that was possible," Brian Corbin told CBC News.......

Buddahaid · 07-26-12, 10:02 AM

I can't make any part of a uboat in that side scan picture. It would help if it was scaled so you'd have an idea of what size of an area your looking for.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-26-12, 10:32 AM

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At the bow, those shadows would be the schnorkels used by the diesel engines to charge the batteries.

Really, at the bow?

Ducimus · 07-26-12, 11:08 AM

Color me skeptical. There's entirely too many tall tales of uboats in this regard. My guess is first, make out the type of uboat. If they can make a best guess as to measurements of the object, and then compare that to the known measurements of a type 7 or type 9 uboat. Presumably its probably a type 9, or at least, they are assuming it based on the uboat overlay on the video.

Next, once you have uboat type, go through the historical record and see if there are ANY type 9 uboats that are unaccounted for that were in the general area.

heh, watch them go down there, only to find a pile of cast iron junk with old guy wires coming out of it.

EugeneEdwards · 07-26-12, 11:57 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-184

Potential others:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-209

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-420

Buddahaid · 07-26-12, 12:43 PM

I must have had a bad link or they just changed the image as I can now see the superimposed uboat on the video link. That's what I had guessed they were looking at and it's a stretch of imagination I don't believe at all. Why go there? Did they get stuck inside the defenses and scuttle? No, the crew would have been found out. A snorkel means a late war boat and I find that even harder to swallow as a story.

This will prove to be something else and if it is a uboat, I would place it as a WW1 boat more likely.

Buddahaid · 07-26-12, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Really, at the bow?

I agree, this is blarney from an idiot.

Chad · 07-26-12, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Really, at the bow?

This

I watched the video, and even paused it at just the sonar scan, and I'm not buying it.

maillemaker · 07-26-12, 02:07 PM

That would be some serious harbor raiding. The place is way inland.

Ducimus · 07-26-12, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Really, at the bow?

Yeah, it doesn't take a Uboat buff to see the fallacy in that statement.

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Originally Posted by maillemaker

That would be some serious harbor raiding. The place is way inland.

With a couple of notable exceptions, (Scapa Flow and Namkwan Harbor for example), "Harbor raiding" generally didn't occur. Less so in the Atlantic then in the Pacific.

Platapus · 07-26-12, 04:04 PM

A sub at the bottom of the Labrador River? If only we had something that could retrieve it.

mapuc · 07-26-12, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Really, at the bow?

Maybe, that day they build that Uboat, Bernard was hired to help in the shipyard

Markus

August · 07-26-12, 05:05 PM

Assuming it is a U-boat then what might have been the U-Boat skippers motivation for going up the river? I did a quick scan of the map and it didn't look like there was anything up that way to sink.

Herr-Berbunch · 07-26-12, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

A sub at the bottom of the Labrador River? If only we had something that could retrieve it.

I got it, but looks like others have yet to catch on.

u crank · 07-26-12, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I got it, but looks like others have yet to catch on.

Woof woof.

07-26-12, 09:34 AM	#1
RoyalHighlander Watch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta canada Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	German U-boat may be at bottom of Labrador river http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...overy-725.html Divers believe they have located WWII submarine 100 kilometres from ocean... An important piece of history from the Second World War may be sitting in a river in Labrador. Searchers believe they've found a German U-boat buried in the sand on the bottom of the Churchill River. The discovery has yet to be authenticated. Two years ago, searchers scoured the bottom of the Churchill River with side-scanning sonar. They were looking for three men lost over Muskrat Falls. When they reviewed the footage from that search, they made an unexpected discovery. "We were looking for something completely different, not a submarine, not a U-boat — I mean, no one would ever believe that was possible," Brian Corbin told CBC News.......

07-26-12, 10:02 AM	#2
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,560 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I can't make any part of a uboat in that side scan picture. It would help if it was scaled so you'd have an idea of what size of an area your looking for. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

07-26-12, 11:57 AM	#5
EugeneEdwards Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	U-184 ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-184 Potential others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-209 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-420

07-26-12, 12:43 PM	#6
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,560 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I must have had a bad link or they just changed the image as I can now see the superimposed uboat on the video link. That's what I had guessed they were looking at and it's a stretch of imagination I don't believe at all. Why go there? Did they get stuck inside the defenses and scuttle? No, the crew would have been found out. A snorkel means a late war boat and I find that even harder to swallow as a story. This will prove to be something else and if it is a uboat, I would place it as a WW1 boat more likely. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

07-26-12, 04:04 PM	#11
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,951 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	A sub at the bottom of the Labrador River? If only we had something that could retrieve it. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-26-12, 11:08 AM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Color me skeptical. There's entirely too many tall tales of uboats in this regard. My guess is first, make out the type of uboat. If they can make a best guess as to measurements of the object, and then compare that to the known measurements of a type 7 or type 9 uboat. Presumably its probably a type 9, or at least, they are assuming it based on the uboat overlay on the video. Next, once you have uboat type, go through the historical record and see if there are ANY type 9 uboats that are unaccounted for that were in the general area. heh, watch them go down there, only to find a pile of cast iron junk with old guy wires coming out of it.

07-26-12, 02:07 PM	#9
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	That would be some serious harbor raiding. The place is way inland.

07-26-12, 05:05 PM	#13
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,667 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Assuming it is a U-boat then what might have been the U-Boat skippers motivation for going up the river? I did a quick scan of the map and it didn't look like there was anything up that way to sink. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.